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Dreamed of visiting Galaxy Spa last month and left a little underwhelmed. Walked in and paid. 8 for house fee to the mamasan, I thought. She led me to a room and turns out she was my masseuse for the night too, which I was disappointed with. She gave a decent massage but once she flipped me over, I just wasn't feeling it. She tried giving a H. E. But I couldn't get there. Tipped a 40 and left.
[QUOTE=LknDesires;5562748]Has anyone been to One Spa in Huntersville and know if they do happy endings? If not what's the closest one to Huntersville?[/QUOTE]One Spa is FS and pretty consistent. Down side is is it's a rush job. For pure HE, the closest is Lilly Spa off 85/ Beatties Ford. Been around forever. Pure rub and tug but consistent. Used to be way better.
[QUOTE=RonT6969;5564288]For an hour with FS at QCE, what is the typical total donation (house + tip)?[/QUOTE]
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Moved here from Houston and have just about given up on finding a reasonably priced independent incall. So I'm thinking about dipping into my first AMP. I'm sure there are several previous threads that cover the' Where to go and protocols to get the green light'. But any sage advice is much welcomed. Ideal situation would be decent massage and covered full service. But should I "lie" and say I've been there before or go with, "not here" - Weird posting as a newbie as I've been hobbing for years, just never at a Massage Parlor.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=NCSilent;5564253]She is legit and those are her pics.
Sweet young little thing and a good time. But she is part of QCE crew. They perform but make sure you bring the bank.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. I will give her a try and let you know.
[QUOTE=SinYouGuy;5564506]Moved here from Houston and have just about given up on finding a reasonably priced independent incall. So I'm thinking about dipping into my first AMP. I'm sure there are several previous threads that cover the' Where to go and protocols to get the green light'. But any sage advice is much welcomed. Ideal situation would be decent massage and covered full service. But should I "lie" and say I've been there before or go with, "not here" - Weird posting as a newbie as I've been hobbing for years, just never at a Massage Parlor.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]1) Come alone to the AMP.
2) When they ask if you have been there before, always say. Of course I have! In fact use this board for a name in the past. Read this board over the last few months and things will be clearer. Spend an hour and you will learn enough.
3) Always leave your money in plain site, including the tip. FS in Charlotte is usually $80 for an hour and $140/120 for the tip. If you leave the tip out in the open. Things just go smoother.
4) Take the shower. Always take the shower.
5) Let her know you are interested. Smile. Make small talk.
6) Do something inappropriate that they are used to. Massage her leg, go for a titty, grab her buttocks. She presses into you respond.
7) Tell her you want it. You are the customer. The worst thing she can do is say NO!
Act cool and be patient. Let her lead. CLT has enough places, some good some not so good.
[QUOTE=Ckbnc;5565366]1) Come alone to the AMP.
2) When they ask if you have been there before, always say. Of course I have! In fact use this board for a name in the past. Read this board over the last few months and things will be clearer. Spend an hour and you will learn enough.
3) Always leave your money in plain site, including the tip. FS in Charlotte is usually $80 for an hour and $140/120 for the tip. If you leave the tip out in the open. Things just go smoother.
4) Take the shower. Always take the shower.
5) Let her know you are interested. Smile. Make small talk.
6) Do something inappropriate that they are used to. Massage her leg, go for a titty, grab her buttocks. She presses into you respond.
7) Tell her you want it. You are the customer. The worst thing she can do is say NO!
Act cool and be patient. Let her lead. CLT has enough places, some good some not so good.[/QUOTE]While I am by no means an AMP pro (I've only been to Kyoto and that was last month) and Ck's advice is good, I didn't do anything of those things except place the tip at the beginning. I told mamasan I was a newbie, didn't make small talk, didn't grab or touch until the main event. I drew Tammy and had a wonderful time. She knew what I was there for and delivered big time.
The moral of the story: These places are not dumb and know full well why you are there. If you lay the right tip down at the right location, you shouldn't have any problems getting what you want.
[QUOTE=Cosmo123;5552382]Has anybody been to Touch? Seem like a legit place but the girls seem very nice. Just Curious.[/QUOTE]Touch is 100% legit.
[QUOTE=Ckbnc;5565366]1) Come alone to the AMP.
2) When they ask if you have been there before, always say. Of course I have! In fact use this board for a name in the past. Read this board over the last few months and things will be clearer. Spend an hour and you will learn enough.
3) Always leave your money in plain site, including the tip. FS in Charlotte is usually $80 for an hour and $140/120 for the tip. If you leave the tip out in the open. Things just go smoother.
4) Take the shower. Always take the shower.
5) Let her know you are interested. Smile. Make small talk.
6) Do something inappropriate that they are used to. Massage her leg, go for a titty, grab her buttocks. She presses into you respond.
7) Tell her you want it. You are the customer. The worst thing she can do is say NO!
Act cool and be patient. Let her lead. CLT has enough places, some good some not so good.[/QUOTE]Never done any of these and always had success.
I actually got a massage and happy ending and did not give any money until I was on my way out the door and was first time visiting that spa.
[QUOTE=TheMechanik365;5565753]While I am by no means an AMP pro (I've only been to Kyoto and that was last month) and Ck's advice is good, I didn't do anything of those things except place the tip at the beginning. I told mamasan I was a newbie, didn't make small talk, didn't grab or touch until the main event. I drew Tammy and had a wonderful time. She knew what I was there for and delivered big time.
The moral of the story: These places are not dumb and know full well why you are there. If you lay the right tip down at the right location, you shouldn't have any problems getting what you want.[/QUOTE]I have always said yes I have been there. Even if I have not. But yeah. It's not like they are selling ice cream cones with FS on the side. Be cool, don't be a jerk and things will usually work out fine.
Had a recent dream with Coco. 2nd time dreaming w her. All though she is not the hottest gal she does have a good body with nice naturals. TS was quick which was fine because room temp was freezing cold, but there was some lite teasing. Took 5 in Sauna which she joined for a few to warm up. Back to room where she did a better then avg massage. . So I thought it was flip time and she say not yet. She proceeds to do a body to body rub and some sensual teasing which she did not do the first time. I'm assuming she remembered me from last time and added to the exp. Which was nice. Started with CBJ then 69 where she does get into it. She went to RCG where she rode for her enjoyment as much as mine. Then switched to CG and rode on for a bit before she stops and says she finished. We slowly got back into it and continued on until bag was filled. I know these girls can be great actors but I am pretty confident she does get into her sessions or we just clicked.
I can honestly say that I've always refused table shower. I always shower beforehand.
1. Chances of athletes foot is very high probability. And athletes foot doesn't just go away.
2. you have to leave the room so chances of some other monger seeing you increases.
3. You leave your personal belongings in a room. Not saying theft would ever happen but I like to keep an eye on my stuff if possible.
If they offer table shower the chance of extras is almost 100%.
Two of the main things I look at to ensure extras: open late night and a table shower and I've never been wrong. This is the same standard across the nation as I've been all over the country. West coast (California) has the best Korean girls you will ever get BTW. Competition is so fearce that standard massages have been as low as $40 for 60 mins $60 for 90 min. Due to the close port on west coast to Asia my guess.
I don't post on here much as I've always just listened I just wanted to put my 2 cents on the subject about table showers from previous posters.
I will also say your chance of finger action on you if you get what I'm saying increases with table shower (at least while on table shower) if that is your thing.
I would also like to hear some opinions on why some mongers would want BBFS with a SW? I understand the excitement of risk and some older mongers need the assistance to perform. But I couldn't imagine the risk. Would be pretty difficult to explain if you have a wife / girlfriend or even future partner about something you've caught. So would like to hear some mongers take on that.
[QUOTE=Ckbnc;5565968]I have always said yes I have been there. Even if I have not. But yeah. It's not like they are selling ice cream cones with FS on the side. Be cool, don't be a jerk and things will usually work out fine.[/QUOTE]If the table has no hole in it then it is FS. If the "therapists wear party dresses, it is full service.
If it has a hole in the table, and the provider is in street clothes it is legit.
I have to agree on this one for the most part, as I have never received any extras from women in slacks, or street clothing. Most I ever get from them is maybe a handy, and that has been it. The FS girls wear easy on, easy off for two reasons really.
One to get down to business quickly.
And two to be able to be dressed quickly in case our uncle shows up, and to move on.
There is a new place in Rock Hill apparently, so I will go check it out, but I have no doubt it is strictly legit.
I only know of the ones on herlong, cherry, ebenezer and main. Am I missing one? For a solid massage I prefer WRC on Herlong. I've been disappointed with the quality at the other 3. Of course south of Charlotte I just go for the massage. If there's anything extra in Rock Hill I must be missing out.
[QUOTE=OleDog;5567172]I only know of the ones on herlong, cherry, ebenezer and main. Am I missing one? For a solid massage I prefer WRC on Herlong. I've been disappointed with the quality at the other 3. Of course south of Charlotte I just go for the massage. If there's anything extra in Rock Hill I must be missing out.[/QUOTE]Heavenly massage. On east main. Looks like a straight legit place from the reviews. I may try it just for a good local massage. Still trying to get through the entire Kyoto lineup.
After a long break from visiting Charlotte on a regular I am headed there often again.
I used to visit Lighthouse; even frequented her in Hendersonville and FL.
Minus the vast information you all have on the board what about some UTR providers?
Please PM me any info that you could share.
TIA.
[QUOTE=OleDog;5567172]I only know of the ones on herlong, cherry, ebenezer and main. Am I missing one? For a solid massage I prefer WRC on Herlong. I've been disappointed with the quality at the other 3. Of course south of Charlotte I just go for the massage. If there's anything extra in Rock Hill I must be missing out.[/QUOTE]I've been to Ebenezer twice. First time was a basic massage, standard finish. Second visit girl went full nude on me with standard finish. One of the worse and most painful massages I've ever had. Touching allowed, mechanical response. Would not repeat.
[QUOTE=MiBallz;5567581]After a long break from visiting Charlotte on a regular I am headed there often again.
I used to visit Lighthouse; even frequented her in Hendersonville and FL.
Minus the vast information you all have on the board what about some UTR providers?
Please PM me any info that you could share.
TIA.[/QUOTE]The girl from Hendersonville / FL has since married and retired. Don't about the other one.
Hey Md, yeah I tried the "Heavenly" on Main in Rock Hill a few months ago. Did not attempt anything but massage. I had no attraction to the RA. Just left with the "ok" massage. Hope you enjoy the visit.
[QUOTE=OleDog;5568190]Hey Md, yeah I tried the "Heavenly" on Main in Rock Hill a few months ago. Did not attempt anything but massage. I had no attraction to the RA. Just left with the "ok" massage. Hope you enjoy the visit.[/QUOTE]I did not know about Heavenly, Sunrise on Cherry yes, and Perfect yes. I can never seem to be in RH when WRC is free. I went to Heavenly, and they immediately tried to up sell me on 4 hand at. 6 ea, and essential oil for the massage at $10. Then I went in the massage room and saw all sorts of signs like leave underpants on, and left. While I was not there for sex, the whole leaving clothing on means a lame massage. I have sciatic damage, so how will they work the tail bone area, and they said baby oil. I know I my be a grumpy old bastard, but damn the place reminds me of massage envy now.
[QUOTE=OleDog;5568190]Hey Md, yeah I tried the "Heavenly" on Main in Rock Hill a few months ago. Did not attempt anything but massage. I had no attraction to the RA. Just left with the "ok" massage. Hope you enjoy the visit.[/QUOTE]Thanks for saving me some $.
Visited Kyoto and dreamed of meeting Tammy. Great body and wearing a nice dress to accentuate her curves. I got a hhr massage and asked her for a TS but she said they didn't do that in the hhr and I'll have to back earlier. After an average massage she flipped me over and offered FS without much effort from me. CBJ then K9 and I unloaded into the bag. We talked for a good while about our backgrounds and she's friendly and free spirited. May have to go back for a full hour.
[QUOTE=JustLooking211;5566713]I can honestly say that I've always refused table shower. I always shower beforehand.
1. Chances of athletes foot is very high probability. And athletes foot doesn't just go away.
2. you have to leave the room so chances of some other monger seeing you increases.
3. You leave your personal belongings in a room. Not saying theft would ever happen but I like to keep an eye on my stuff if possible.
If they offer table shower the chance of extras is almost 100%.
Two of the main things I look at to ensure extras: open late night and a table shower and I've never been wrong. This is the same standard across the nation as I've been all over the country. West coast (California) has the best Korean girls you will ever get BTW. Competition is so fearce that standard massages have been as low as $40 for 60 mins $60 for 90 min. Due to the close port on west coast to Asia my guess.
I don't post on here much as I've always just listened I just wanted to put my 2 cents on the subject about table showers from previous posters.
I will also say your chance of finger action on you if you get what I'm saying increases with table shower (at least while on table shower) if that is your thing.
I would also like to hear some opinions on why some mongers would want BBFS with a SW? I understand the excitement of risk and some older mongers need the assistance to perform. But I couldn't imagine the risk. Would be pretty difficult to explain if you have a wife / girlfriend or even future partner about something you've caught. So would like to hear some mongers take on that.[/QUOTE]How do I put this lightly.
1. Chances of athletes foot is very high probability. And athletes foot doesn't just go away.
IF you drive down the street there is a chance you could get in a wreck also.
2. you have to leave the room so chances of some other monger seeing you increases.
IF you pay with your debit card someone could see you type your pin.
3. You leave your personal belongings in a room. Not saying theft would ever happen but I like to keep an eye on my stuff if possible.
IF you park your car at the mall it can get stolen.
See where I'm going with this, it is all about acceptable risk.
If a place is known of stealing from mongers it will not be active for long.
Table shower has nothing to do with extras sometimes they just want to make sure your clean. It can also be a feel out period but not everyone gets table showers.
I would also like to hear some opinions on why some mongers would want BBFS with a SW? I understand the excitement of risk and some older mongers need the assistance to perform. But I couldn't imagine the risk. Would be pretty difficult to explain if you have a wife / girlfriend or even future partner about something you've caught. So would like to hear some mongers take on that.
IF it is not your kink don't worry about it! Let grown men do what they want to do.
For your 2nd post lot of negatives in this and asking people to explain themselves.
LN.
Ne Ne is back at 3429 after a long absence. She's quirky, but can be a lot of fun. Just letting her fans know she's back. Didn't partake as she was busy, but still a nice tight body.
Thankyou nog. Many times there's a lot unnecessary cloak and dagger suspicions that go into a simple AMP visit. Real fact. The ladies want you as a customer. For the most part they will do what they can to make you comfortable, happy and a repeat customer. I have never felt unsafe in an AMP. The only thing I don't care for is the possibility that the linens (pillowcases and sheets) are not changed after each customer but I live with the fact that the shop can't reasonably wash 20 or 30 sheets a day.
[QUOTE=LordNog;5568941]How do I put this lightly.
1. Chances of athletes foot is very high probability. And athletes foot doesn't just go away.
IF you drive down the street there is a chance you could get in a wreck also.
2. you have to leave the room so chances of some other monger seeing you increases.
IF you pay with your debit card someone could see you type your pin.
3. You leave your personal belongings in a room. Not saying theft would ever happen but I like to keep an eye on my stuff if possible.
IF you park your car at the mall it can get stolen.
See where I'm going with this, it is all about acceptable risk.
If a place is known of stealing from mongers it will not be active for long.
Table shower has nothing to do with extras sometimes they just want to make sure your clean. It can also be a feel out period but not everyone gets table showers.
I would also like to hear some opinions on why some mongers would want BBFS with a SW? I understand the excitement of risk and some older mongers need the assistance to perform. But I couldn't imagine the risk. Would be pretty difficult to explain if you have a wife / girlfriend or even future partner about something you've caught. So would like to hear some mongers take on that.
IF it is not your kink don't worry about it! Let grown men do what they want to do.
For your 2nd post lot of negatives in this and asking people to explain themselves.
LN.[/QUOTE]This is not a counter argument.
OP’s point was to be able to be in control of the situation he's in and doesn't like taking the risk knowing he could avoid it. The 'counter argument' just list a bunch of random shit that could happen. You can sit in your own home and a plane could fall on your head, the good damn house collapse, your dog ate something in the yard and went berserk and maul you, you could even trip and drown in the kitchen sink. And the list goes on and on.
You will get a happy ending at most AMP's without any negotiating for tip, (if that's all they offer) in fact if you get the HE with no pre payment or negotiation, most likely that's all that's on the table, Pun intended) you arent going to get much more specially FS without pre paying.
[QUOTE=Solarmta;5565950]Never done any of these and always had success.
I actually got a massage and happy ending and did not give any money until I was on my way out the door and was first time visiting that spa.[/QUOTE]
Many will start cleaning before you leave, I have been to many places and seen them remove the coverings and repalce them on the table, granted there are dirty places that don't do this, but you can tell fomr a visit or two which places these are.
[QUOTE=OleDog;5569213]Thankyou nog. Many times there's a lot unnecessary cloak and dagger suspicions that go into a simple AMP visit. Real fact. The ladies want you as a customer. For the most part they will do what they can to make you comfortable, happy and a repeat customer. I have never felt unsafe in an AMP. The only thing I don't care for is the possibility that the linens (pillowcases and sheets) are not changed after each customer but I live with the fact that the shop can't reasonably wash 20 or 30 sheets a day.[/QUOTE]
Ignore the "keep your clothes on" or "no sexual services offered" signs, in most cases there are not there for you, they are there for law enforcement. Hell Kyoto has "no sexual services offered" Signs.
[QUOTE=IH8HJsAz;5568224]I did not know about Heavenly, Sunrise on Cherry yes, and Perfect yes. I can never seem to be in RH when WRC is free. I went to Heavenly, and they immediately tried to up sell me on 4 hand at. 6 ea, and essential oil for the massage at $10. Then I went in the massage room and saw all sorts of signs like leave underpants on, and left. While I was not there for sex, the whole leaving clothing on means a lame massage. I have sciatic damage, so how will they work the tail bone area, and they said baby oil. I know I my be a grumpy old bastard, but damn the place reminds me of massage envy now.[/QUOTE]
I am surprised this place has not been mentioned. , I was not even aware they had re-opened. Has always been just a basic rub and tug spot but with a TS. I Drew Lisha, if I had to guess I would say in her 40's had mask on so couldn't see her face. Daisy dules and small top, and this might have literally been the best massage I have ever gotten, (I am only talking about the massage not the ending) she did the typical "what type of massage you want hard medium soft" I said Medium and she started the massage but then she says "you too stiff for medium" gave me a great massage hard but not painful (which is why I usually say medium instead of hard) did some solid work walking on my back too, finish was nothing special pretty standard, but it was a finish, roaming was not discouraged looks maybe a 7 on the AMP scale.
I can think of many places where they wear "street clothes" and give extras, maybe not FS but extras.
[QUOTE=IH8HJsAz;5566798]If the table has no hole in it then it is FS. If the "therapists wear party dresses, it is full service.
If it has a hole in the table, and the provider is in street clothes it is legit.
I have to agree on this one for the most part, as I have never received any extras from women in slacks, or street clothing. Most I ever get from them is maybe a handy, and that has been it. The FS girls wear easy on, easy off for two reasons really.
One to get down to business quickly.
And two to be able to be dressed quickly in case our uncle shows up, and to move on.
There is a new place in Rock Hill apparently, so I will go check it out, but I have no doubt it is strictly legit.[/QUOTE]
Passing through. Based on reviews here I decided to take a break and stop by Sakura. It was a bit hard to get into as my GPS took me next door. But if it helps it's in a somewhat run down strip mall right behind a hibachi restaurant. Was buzzed in by Sophie. For those who like full womanly figures, yikes. Nice enhanced top. Small waist. Latina type derrière (or perhaps Thai). A bit heavy on makeup and fake eyelashes but VERY attractive. And from the face (and later the feel of her body), I would guess late forties but who knows with inshape Asian ladies? I'm older so I certainly found her attractive.
Went to the room. Paid the 80 house. Great and thorough table shower with lots of soft scrubbing and attention to the important parts. Back to the room where I laid out 140 while she was out prepping. Once she came back the dress dropped and fun began. Did I mention her dynamite curves? And rock hard abs (she says she does crunches). Not enough massage but some mutual caressing. A bit of CBJ and then standing mish. Unfortunately with the drive I was tired and with the condom not really feeling it. Sophie was a trooper and tried a few other positions including cowgirl. But in the end she finished me off with a body slide / HJ. Finished off with some massage (I should have pushed that earlier as it would have helped). A big bottle of water, smiles and hugs and I was out the door. Total time ran about 10 minutes over (I said she's a trooper).
I'd go back in a flash when I'm more rested. Sophie is a sexy sweety. Happy to buy her dinner next time if she's reading this. 😀.
Sophie is still there. Michelle is gone. New girl Hanna. Little thick still nice. Paid the house 80.140 tip she said honey this time only next time 160. I told her their won't be a next time. Screw that shit. Not happening.
[QUOTE=HeyItsMe68;5571263]Sophie is still there. Michelle is gone. New girl Hanna. Little thick still nice. Paid the house 80.140 tip she said honey this time only next time 160. I told her their won't be a next time. Screw that shit. Not happening.[/QUOTE]Hell no. Not happening from my end. I'm sure others will pay that $160 on top of the house fee though. I'll bow out the game and ride off into the sunset.
I don't even pay a 140 tip. I damn sure ain't paying 160. I don't even pay working girls 200 for a HH. The way it's going, all of the decent ones will be charging 200 for a HH within the next 2 years if not sooner. When that happens, I'm definitely taking myself out of the game. In 2 years, I'll probably already be impotent so it's really not going to matter.
[QUOTE=Corvette704;5571393]Hell no. Not happening from my end. I'm sure others will pay that $160 on top of the house fee though. I'll bow out the game and ride off into the sunset.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HeyItsMe68;5571263]Sophie is still there. Michelle is gone. New girl Hanna. Little thick still nice. Paid the house 80.140 tip she said honey this time only next time 160. I told her their won't be a next time. Screw that shit. Not happening.[/QUOTE]
Hi All,
I follow this forum regularly, and I know the norm with the MPs.
At an FS place, they normally charge $. 6 plus $1. 2 or $1. 4 for FS. If we deny FS, they usually try to push to it since they get more tip and perform lame service if we bring them down.
My question is how do we negotiate for a massage + BJ for a reasonable price. Are there any good places for a massage + BJ without upsell and what is the price?
PM me if needed.
CTL.
I usually get a good treatment at 3 x29. But, it looks like they too rotate girls. Got Nancy and she did not do a good job. Moreover, asked for tip during middle of the session. The finish was not that great for me. I should stick to Linda or Nene I guess.
I usually don't post bad reports, and try to give them a second chance; since it could just be me, or a bad day, and they might be good with someone else. But with Nancy, I guess there is no second time for me.
CTL.
[QUOTE=LightTouch11;5570848]Passing through. Based on reviews here I decided to take a break and stop by Sakura. It was a bit hard to get into as my GPS took me next door. But if it helps it's in a somewhat run down strip mall right behind a hibachi restaurant. Was buzzed in by Sophie. For those who like full womanly figures, yikes. Nice enhanced top. Small waist. Latina type derrire (or perhaps Thai). A bit heavy on makeup and fake eyelashes but VERY attractive. And from the face (and later the feel of her body), I would guess late forties but who knows with inshape Asian ladies? I'm older so I certainly found her attractive.
Went to the room. Paid the 80 house. Great and thorough table shower with lots of soft scrubbing and attention to the important parts. Back to the room where I laid out 140 while she was out prepping. Once she came back the dress dropped and fun began. Did I mention her dynamite curves? And rock hard abs (she says she does crunches). Not enough massage but some mutual caressing. A bit of CBJ and then standing mish. Unfortunately with the drive I was tired and with the condom not really feeling it. Sophie was a trooper and tried a few other positions including cowgirl. But in the end she finished me off with a body slide / HJ. Finished off with some massage (I should have pushed that earlier as it would have helped). A big bottle of water, smiles and hugs and I was out the door. Total time ran about 10 minutes over (I said she's a trooper).
I'd go back in a flash when I'm more rested. Sophie is a sexy sweety. Happy to buy her dinner next time if she's reading this. 😀.[/QUOTE]I too recently met her, my first time at Sakura. I had always avoided them as, reportedly, the talent was unimpressive. She is older with fake rack and backside but her english skills and attitude more than impressed me, its not a high bar for AMPs.
Ok first post so I have no street cred but just for your FYI, tonight is Sophie's last night. Wow, previous posts did not do her enough credit. She is really really personable. Speaks great English and it very sweet. Best overall experience I've had. Good news she will be back in a few weeks. Management has already requested her to return. Bad news is she may be appointment only when she comes back. Apparently I wasn't the only dude to go check out her massage skills.
Was in your fair city last week. Decided to try Kyoto since I read good reviews. Pulled into the strip mall complex and saw an massage sigh, Went in. Saw it was not Kyoto, but Lotus hands. Thought maybe Kyoto changed names or Kyoto had not changed sign. Anywhoo. Young Korean girl at front desk, she was my therapist. I always put house fee and donation down in separate piles. That way I am not making a deal for possible illegal activity. 60 house, 120 to therapist. Small, young K girl with small boobs and actually nice ass. Massage started, I massaged her legs and up into her shorts. She had me flip and dropped her pants and panties. No cover, so no FS, but DATY and finished me with HJ while I rubbed kitty. Overpaid, here is where placing tip before service hurts you. She was very happy with tip though. LOL.
Got in car to leave and saw Kyoto a few stores down, First time I have ever seen 2 rub and tug places in same strip mall. Who knew?
Next trip I will try the real Kyoto.