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[QUOTE=Wolverines;3557145]Thanks for reporting back. Sorry to hear about your experience. Pretty classless act by her. How hard would it be for her to just say sorry I don't see AA. Instead she just hangs up. I would be pissed too. She is not off to a good start in GR![/QUOTE]Just as a warning, and commentary on Megan who post a lot out of Muskegon B P and as of late in GR as well. I am in the same socio-economic situation as Nyped96, and basically got the same phone treatment because of my ethnicity. I am not white or African American and was told after several texts (asking for a very high donation, on an incall), yes she is hot and in high demand but my non white money was not good enough! Funny thing is I believe she is A A herself, and see only WHITE clients, LOL! To each his own, but I am not recommending her!

Sorry all, her ad was down by the time I post this, so no link. Digits end in 0031.

She's a pretty, lean, young brunette with a great attitude that I enjoyed a short stay with midday today. . 6 for damages and she helped me get the most out of my time with her. Verbally encouraging and an active participant in the fun. Everything covered, quiet little apt in the back of a residence on the NW side. I will repeat.

Thanks for the review.

[QUOTE=DPerki67;3557296]Sorry all, her ad was down by the time I post this, so no link. Digits end in 0031.

She's a pretty, lean, young brunette with a great attitude that I enjoyed a short stay with midday today. . 6 for damages and she helped me get the most out of my time with her. Verbally encouraging and an active participant in the fun. Everything covered, quiet little apt in the back of a residence on the NW side. I will repeat.[/QUOTE]

Anyone seen victoria secret? Been posting for last couple of months.

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/victorias-secret/38525313[/URL]

[QUOTE=Wolverines;3557145]Thanks for reporting back. Sorry to hear about your experience. Pretty classless act by her. How hard would it be for her to just say sorry I don't see AA. Instead she just hangs up. I would be pissed too. She is not off to a good start in GR![/QUOTE]I made an appointment with her in the morning to ma meet her in the evening. An hour before I confirmed it. Then 30 minutes later I got the address. Drove there, got a text with donation rates, I agreed. Then I never got another reply. What a dumbass!

Anyone been able to get a response from this one. She has been posting in GR for the past week or so. I have texted her per instructions in the ad 5 or 6 times with no response back from her.

[URL]http://muskegon.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/discriminating-gentlemen-read-on/39375702[/URL]

Well she's certainly off to a brilliant start! Overpriced, rude and racist.
Looks to be a promising start for her LOL.

[QUOTE=Donntee;3557569]I made an appointment with her in the morning to ma meet her in the evening. An hour before I confirmed it. Then 30 minutes later I got the address. Drove there, got a text with donation rates, I agreed. Then I never got another reply. What a dumbass![/QUOTE]

She's blowing up my phone this morning saying this is the last day for the friends of benz special. So get it while it's hot. Get pw from benz not me.

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/happy-wednesday-morning-its-hump-day-up-and-available-now/38871258[/URL]

[QUOTE=Monger01;3557642]She's blowing up my phone this morning saying this is the last day for the friends of benz special. So get it while it's hot. Get pw from benz not me.

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/happy-wednesday-morning-its-hump-day-up-and-available-now/38871258[/URL][/QUOTE]From the feedback received I from mongers, she would answer a day later. So it looks like she finally woke up and realized the guys gave up.

Sorry to hear she's blowing up your phone.

It was nice while it lasted. Now that she woke up she needs to grow up and start being on time with appointments and call backs or get out of the hobby.

Yea I told her more or less that as I've tried about 6 x to setup with her and she replies days later. Yet won't set up appt. Days in advance. Makes no sense. I am willing to bet the new BP payment issue is beyond her ability. Too bad she didn't handle us right in the beginning and have regulars now.

No sorry needed on the phone. That's one reason of several I use a hobby phone.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3557695]From the feedback received I from mongers, she would answer a day later. So it looks like she finally woke up and realized the guys gave up.

Sorry to hear she's blowing up your phone.

It was nice while it lasted. Now that she woke up she needs to grow up and start being on time with appointments and call backs or get out of the hobby.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monger01;3553975]Anyone seen her.?
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/sweet-pretty-and-fun/39528382[/URL].

Search for ashlee came back no tesults.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I had a dream with Ashlee a little while back when she was in my neck of the woods. Her pics are accurate, but her complexion is quite a bit rougher in the dream. She was fun, friendly, and accommodating. She seemed more like late teens that late 20's. She does post sometimes as sweet innocent girl next door, and that definitely fits. She was too giggly with breast play and DATY for my likes, but she was enthusiastic about the BBBJwCIM. She was a bit bigger girl than the pics reveal, and I don't think the cups are quite a B. While I prefer bigger busted women, I was pretty sure that she was going to be smaller chested from early pics she has posted, but the proximity and timing seemed good to TOFFT. Even though her attitude was good, bust / body size disparity was too great for me to dream again. Her usual donation is $ for hhr, but I was able to do a little Benz negotiating that evening.

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/sweet-pretty-and-fun/39528382[/URL]

Thanks for TOFTT.

[QUOTE=Paddy4366;3557724]I had a dream with Ashlee a little while back when she was in my neck of the woods. Her pics are accurate, but her complexion is quite a bit rougher in the dream. She was fun, friendly, and accommodating. She seemed more like late teens that late 20's. She does post sometimes as sweet innocent girl next door, and that definitely fits. She was too giggly with breast play and DATY for my likes, but she was enthusiastic about the BBBJwCIM. She was a bit bigger girl than the pics reveal, and I don't think the cups are quite a B. While I prefer bigger busted women, I was pretty sure that she was going to be smaller chested from early pics she has posted, but the proximity and timing seemed good to TOFFT. Even though her attitude was good, bust / body size disparity was too great for me to dream again. Her usual donation is $ for hhr, but I was able to do a little Benz negotiating that evening.

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/sweet-pretty-and-fun/39528382[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EdMonger;3557572]Anyone been able to get a response from this one. She has been posting in GR for the past week or so. I have texted her per instructions in the ad 5 or 6 times with no response back from her.

[URL]http://muskegon.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/discriminating-gentlemen-read-on/39375702[/URL][/QUOTE]I wanted to contact this one too, but then I noticed that the ad reads "Location: Grand Rapids, Holland, Kalamazoo, Lansing, Muskegon". A post usually comes up sooner or later that it's a TGTBT when when the ad lists multiple far-flung locations. At least this one doesn't have all of the SE Michigan locations too.

Had an appt. With Jen on sort of short notice.
Turned out she had some personal business that was running long. Instead of letting me drive considerable distance and be stood up she politely texted me with ample lead time that she couldn't make our appt. Time.
We of course rescheduled since now I definately want to see her get her donation today.

Savage Jen with the purple hair. No current active link at present but A+ to her for professionalism!

[QUOTE=Monger01;3554925]I know numerous providers who read this forum so if that is you please read on:
We know you get a lot of no-shows on your end of this too. But like any Business, and yes, you are a business, you cannot stoop to your bad Customer's level and punish those of us who never blow off an appointment. Particularly your clients from this board who are in most cases safe, discrete out of experience and probably more importantly to you - Prolific repeat customers. We realize sheet happens. It happens to us too. Sometimes work, family or even traffic interferes with a planned Appointment. But I for one always contact the provider to explain I cannot Make it in advance and try to reschedule. It is certainly reasonable for Us to expect a text like "sorry dear, need to reschedule our 2 PM today".
Most of us work and some of us have families that leave our hobby time Limited to windows of opportunity so planning an appt. In advance is a lot of planning on our parts. Some of us are older and may take a rather Expensive pill hours before the appointment to make sure we will perform Well. When it gets close to session time and we get no response to contact some of us have no real time for a plan B.
I'd like to think most hobbyists on this board will tell you if we cannot Make a date. Please consider letting us know as well when you cannot. A Good reputation is yours to lose. You will not maintain a following of Regulars blowing off appointments too often.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EdMonger;3557572]Anyone been able to get a response from this one. She has been posting in GR for the past week or so. I have texted her per instructions in the ad 5 or 6 times with no response back from her.

[URL]http://muskegon.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/discriminating-gentlemen-read-on/39375702[/URL][/QUOTE]She claims GFE for 100 hhr. She sent me a clothed Pic that Looks real.

She is in Grand Rapids now.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3558142]She claims GFE for 100 hhr. She sent me a clothed Pic that Looks real.

She is in Grand Rapids now.[/QUOTE]She is real. GFE has super short hair, lots of stretch marks from weight loss or having kids saggy small brewers very sweet and accommodating nice BBBJ offers Greek. I would repeat if not for the short hair and baby damage I think her habbits maybe the reason for delayed responses. If you don't mid really short hair lots of stretch marks she is worth checking out.

[QUOTE=Monger01;3557939]Had an appt. With Jen on sort of short notice.
Turned out she had some personal business that was running long. Instead of letting me drive considerable distance and be stood up she politely texted me with ample lead time that she couldn't make our appt. Time.
We of course rescheduled since now I definately want to see her get her donation today.

Savage Jen with the purple hair. No current active link at present but A+ to her for professionalism![/QUOTE]So she canceled on you last minute. Odds are be cause she got a better offer.

Possible but I've seen her a lot and I pay her asking rates so I doubt that with her.

[QUOTE=Pete3854;3558296]So she canceled on you last minute. Odds are be cause she got a better offer.[/QUOTE]

She was a UTR regular of mine for this past summer. She is witty, fetish friendly, and lot of fun both inside and outside the bedroom. Spot on review here from BaseHit except for the bad habits. She is clean and sober. She didn't respond to my texts because she knew it was me texting. And she changed her number so I didn't know it was her.

[QUOTE=BaseHit;3558248]She is real. GFE has super short hair, lots of stretch marks from weight loss or having kids saggy small brewers very sweet and accommodating nice BBBJ offers Greek. I would repeat if not for the short hair and baby damage I think her habbits maybe the reason for delayed responses. If you don't mid really short hair lots of stretch marks she is worth checking out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EdMonger;3558383]She was a UTR regular of mine for this past summer. She is witty, fetish friendly, and lot of fun both inside and outside the bedroom. Spot on review here from BaseHit except for the bad habits. She is clean and sober. She didn't respond to my texts because she knew it was me texting. And she changed her number so I didn't know it was her.[/QUOTE]I've seen her as well & saw no signs of candy abuse. Thin body & close cropped hair may make her look otherwise. She has regular job & child so probably a juggling act for her. I thoroughly enjoyed my time with her. Very good oral skills, very orgasmic and pleasant personality. Some old ad pics are pre-babies but she still is decent looking. I texted her new number not knowing it was her. She texted back & asked when I was going to see her again. Soon I hope. Boybear.

Thanks for the info guys.

[QUOTE=BoyBear;3558629]I've seen her as well & saw no signs of candy abuse. Thin body & close cropped hair may make her look otherwise. She has regular job & child so probably a juggling act for her. I thoroughly enjoyed my time with her. Very good oral skills, very orgasmic and pleasant personality. Some old ad pics are pre-babies but she still is decent looking. I texted her new number not knowing it was her. She texted back & asked when I was going to see her again. Soon I hope. Boybear.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EdMonger;3558383]She was a UTR regular of mine for this past summer. She is witty, fetish friendly, and lot of fun both inside and outside the bedroom. Spot on review here from BaseHit except for the bad habits. She is clean and sober. She didn't respond to my texts because she knew it was me texting. And she changed her number so I didn't know it was her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BaseHit;3558248]She is real. GFE has super short hair, lots of stretch marks from weight loss or having kids saggy small brewers very sweet and accommodating nice BBBJ offers Greek. I would repeat if not for the short hair and baby damage I think her habbits maybe the reason for delayed responses. If you don't mid really short hair lots of stretch marks she is worth checking out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Benz1;3558142]She claims GFE for 100 hhr. She sent me a clothed Pic that Looks real. She is in Grand Rapids now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EdMonger;3557572]Anyone been able to get a response from this one. She has been posting in GR for the past week or so. I have texted her per instructions in the ad 5 or 6 times with no response back from her.

[URL]http://muskegon.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/discriminating-gentlemen-read-on/39375702[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wolverines;3558665]Thanks for the info guys.[/QUOTE]I could be off on the bad habits she was sober when I seen her. The reason I questioned was because of the late hour postings and her physical appearance but that is truly an assumption on my part I did not see any drug related items during my visit.

I've scrolled through the forum, but with no luck. Maybe I missed it.

Any feedback would be appreciated!

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/pics-6167658179/31469613[/URL]

[QUOTE=BoyBear;3558629]I've seen her as well & saw no signs of candy abuse. Thin body & close cropped hair may make her look otherwise. She has regular job & child so probably a juggling act for her. I thoroughly enjoyed my time with her. Very good oral skills, very orgasmic and pleasant personality. Some old ad pics are pre-babies but she still is decent looking. I texted her new number not knowing it was her. She texted back & asked when I was going to see her again. Soon I hope. Boybear.[/QUOTE]This comment and the one from edmonger are a good reminders that some of these ladies have your phone number saved in their contact lists!! And she apparently got a new number and transferred her contact list to that new phone. Possibly with notes about who you are, maybe physical attributes, etc. I understand why a lady running a good business would want to do that, both from a customer service and safety standpoint. But it is a GOOD REMINDER that your personal information could be easily compromised, or lead back to you personally if that phone contact list were to wind up in either the hands of law enforcement or in someone elses control who's intent may not be so pure. A VERY good reason to use a burner phone, even if you aren't worried about a significant other or blackmail.

[QUOTE=Wolverines;3557019]Thanks for the reviews of Lacie.[/QUOTE]There are a number of reviews out there under Lacey and one other misspelling as Lacy. Mostly above average.

I met her a few days ago and didn't get around to review yet. Suburban house east of GR. BBBJ but did not want to CIM so opted for CFS cowgirl which was good. Seemed ok with tit play and FIV, not that much of a cold fish in my view. Only weird thing was she would not uncover her arms. Said because of a cutting / picking issue but who knows. Based on arm thing and no CIM she is not on top of my list.

[QUOTE=Blackfire;3558890]This comment and the one from edmonger are a good reminders that some of these ladies have your phone number saved in their contact lists!! And she apparently got a new number and transferred her contact list to that new phone. Possibly with notes about who you are, maybe physical attributes, etc. I understand why a lady running a good business would want to do that, both from a customer service and safety standpoint. But it is a GOOD REMINDER that your personal information could be easily compromised, or lead back to you personally if that phone contact list were to wind up in either the hands of law enforcement or in someone elses control who's intent may not be so pure. A VERY good reason to use a burner phone, even if you aren't worried about a significant other or blackmail.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up Blackfire, it has happened to me.

The pimp actually has the phone and will use it to contact you as the girl you've seen before. Offer a good deal, then switch girls on you. Your original girl might be in jail or doesn't work for him anymore.

Bambi does the same bait and switch but doesn't call you later. I'm sure she keeps your number too.

Bambi has a little more class than the average pimp, maybe that's why we call her operation " Agency Girls."

Safety First.

Happy Hobbying.

OK, I did a search through this thread for this Torri, but I want to confirm before I jump in because there can be a bit of Torri / Torrie confusion out there. It looks like the Torri in this link (she posted today) has received good reviews and is for real. Is that correct? Love, love, love the ad:

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-with-ddd-torri/38018863[/URL]

[QUOTE=LandRover20;3559003]OK, I did a search through this thread for this Torri, but I want to confirm before I jump in because there can be a bit of Torri / Torrie confusion out there. It looks like the Torri in this link (she posted today) has received good reviews and is for real. Is that correct? Love, love, love the ad:

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-with-ddd-torri/38018863[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes she is real and so are the photos. I saw her a few times when she first came out and reviewed her I think under Alliyiah in the USA Sex Guide Advertisers section. Great naturals. She flaked on me once and never saw her again. Sometimes she didn't have an incall. Pretty sure I gave her a good review as I recall she was a good time in my experience. Given the market, I'd give her a try if she provided a good incall. I'd check to see if she was still full service.

[QUOTE=ChipCharger;3559033]Yes she is real and so are the photos. I saw her a few times when she first came out and reviewed her I think under Alliyiah in the USA Sex Guide Advertisers section. Great naturals. She flaked on me once and never saw her again. Sometimes she didn't have an incall. Pretty sure I gave her a good review as I recall she was a good time in my experience. Given the market, I'd give her a try if she provided a good incall. I'd check to see if she was still full service.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I would be curious about her incall.

[QUOTE=LandRover20;3559003]OK, I did a search through this thread for this Torri, but I want to confirm before I jump in because there can be a bit of Torri / Torrie confusion out there. It looks like the Torri in this link (she posted today) has received good reviews and is for real. Is that correct? Love, love, love the ad:

[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-with-ddd-torri/38018863[/URL][/QUOTE]New to the site! Glad I finally joined!

She is legit, accurate pics. Great body in my opinion. Huge cans, fantastic ass. Gets very wet, and is tight in my opinion.

Long time lurker of this site. It's been extremely helpful in setting up dreams. Can't wait to contribute to this forum. I've seen lots of woman around the GR area. I'll make sure to add my reviews of those that I've seen. Also willing to TOFTT and report back.

Jenn is not using BP for now. I didn't ask her why but I'm betting it's bitcoin.
Since I keep posting about her with no link read here:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?16106-USA-Adult-Classifieds-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3559263[/URL]#post3559263.

She's now a usasg advertiser.
Go see her! Support those who support this forum.

Most of you have the new digits. Digits in this ad are old.
[Url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/cum-find-your-destiny-weekday-special/36791893[/url]

Enjoy!

Has anyone tried any of the burner apps? Just curious as this seems like a solid option if you are not worried about anyone looking through your phone.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3558919]Thanks for the heads up Blackfire, it has happened to me.

The pimp actually has the phone and will use it to contact you as the girl you've seen before. Offer a good deal, then switch girls on you. Your original girl might be in jail or doesn't work for him anymore.

Bambi does the same bait and switch but doesn't call you later. I'm sure she keeps your number too.

Bambi has a little more class than the average pimp, maybe that's why we call her operation " Agency Girls."

Safety First.

Happy Hobbying.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AssMann45;3559256]Long time lurker of this site. It's been extremely helpful in setting up dreams. Can't wait to contribute to this forum. I've seen lots of woman around the GR area. I'll make sure to add my reviews of those that I've seen. Also willing to TOFTT and report back.[/QUOTE]Joining USASG is the first step.

Joining the team by Taking One For The Team is the next step.

We have a 12 step guideline for you to follow. Hopefully you will find it helpful.

Take One For The Team Guidelines (update # 3).

Thank you for your input BoyBear and Polish the Turd.

Step 1 : Find a girl you like, google her number search pics on TinEye.

1. A Search her number on Facebook. / It would wise to have a hobby (fake) FB page before searching. (Thanks BoyBear).

Step 2 : Monitor the ad for at least 3 days, a sting from LE or Robbery set ups usually don't post for more than two days.

Step 3 : Let the usasexguide members know of your findings from google and ask if anyone has knowledge and you plan on TOFTT.

Step 4 : Buy a hobby phone, Do not use your real name for registration or to the provider.

Step 5 : Contact her on a slow day, for quicker response and better negotiations text or call on Tuesday or Wednesday. They get so many calls on a Friday they might lose your message.

A: Original contact should be a short stay or Hhr, to reduce the risk of an expensive bad date.

B: If her incall is a house address enter it into Google Street view to see the house and neighborhood.

If she gives you a location like 3 mile and Alpine, 28th street hotels between Division and 131, RRI, Knights INN on 28th. Tell her you won't go to those hotels and opt a for car date.

C: Save any negotiation for the end of the call or even your second contact. (a car date is 40 or less).

D: don't wear any loud clothing, blend in.

Step 6 : Never park in her driveway or the hotel parking lot. Park in the street or at a nearby business and walk. Example; if you go to motel 6 on 28th park in the restaurant lot.

Step 7 : Leave all valuables and drivers license at home or in the vehicle. Only take in the money you plan to spend.

Step 8 : Contact her to say you are here. Do not go to any shady houses, just drive by and text her to let her know you will not be coming in her mouth tonight.

A: If you're at a house, have her meet you on the porch.

B: If the Hotel has a side door use it. If you have to walk by the front desk act like you live there, don't ask directions.

Step 9 : Knock on door. If the girl matches the pic stay, if not walk out and report back to USA that the pic doesn't match the girl.

Step 10: Check every room for safety.

Step 11 : Tell her you have the money and maybe show it to her but do not give up the cash until after you receive the services you negotiated for.

Step 12: Report back to USA in full detail including Looks, Smells & Cleanliness (of incall and provider), Attitude and Service.

12 A: Include a link to the providers advertisement so we know who you are reviewing. (Thanks Polish The Turd).

These are some steps you should take before you TOFTT. Please add to the list if you see anything I missed.

Just trying to help.

Fellow Monger Benz1.

[QUOTE=SoCold;3559599]Has anyone tried any of the burner apps? Just curious as this seems like a solid option if you are not worried about anyone looking through your phone.[/QUOTE]I have a burner app on my hobby phone. Benz1 actually has 2 hobby phone numbers and 2 hobby email addresses.

The burner app on my hobby phone only works on wifi so if you can't contact a prover for the 2nd call saying I'm here.

Quite simply, she is as advertised. She has a wonderful personality, makes you feel at ease, and genuinely enjoys herself. Will repeat.

[QUOTE=Monger01;3559383]Most of you have the new digits. Digits in this ad are old.
[Url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/cum-find-your-destiny-weekday-special/36791893[/url]

Enjoy![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Benz1;3560019]I have a burner app on my hobby phone. Benz1 actually has 2 hobby phone numbers and 2 hobby email addresses.

The burner app on my hobby phone only works on wifi so if you can't contact a prover for the 2nd call saying I'm here.[/QUOTE]I have used 2 apps on my phone for free calls and free text via data from my phone. I can install when able to use and delete when a certain someone might see my phone then reinstall and log back in pick up where I left off. To me beats carrying 2 phones which would be harder for me to have an excuse.

Notice most of the new to town BP ads have FB links. Half go to nowhere, but many link to what seems to be the providers actual real name FB page. Seems fishy to me. Maybe Artprize pimp scams?

[QUOTE=TRobber22;3560106]Notice most of the new to town BP ads have FB links. Half go to nowhere, but many link to what seems to be the providers actual real name FB page. Seems fishy to me. Maybe Artprize pimp scams?[/QUOTE]Newbie providers seldom have burner phones. If her number links to FB it occasionally links to the pimp or so called BF. If it goes nowhere it is probably a burner phone. Which means they have someone helping GF, BF or pimp. If you find the providers FB page it usually means they have nobody coaching them in the hobby.

If you are searching providers phone numbers on FB, you should be using a hobby FB page (fake).
Your hobby FB should be set up with a hobby smart phone(Trac phone has one for 30 at meijer, it works great on wifi ) and a hobby email address so it never links back to you or your devices under your real name.

Your personal FB has tracking and your SO might be checking on your searches regularly and you won't know it until she confronts you. Then it's too late, women know everthing about FB, SC and all that other shit too.

Make a hobby FB before searching providers numbers.
I started a hobby FB page after the owner of BP was arrested for under age girls. I knew that was the beginning of the end of BP. So I started to friend providers FB for my own personal network, for UTR and some girls that retired but occasionally play in the hobby as well a current providers and girls that secretly want to fuck for money but don't know it yet. I've learned to read between the lines. It is a slow process and takes a lot of time to read through all their B.S. but it's worth it, they already have a network of providers on their friend list.

Safety First. Happy Hobbying.