Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationships

[QUOTE=Bigred2006;6037866]I stopped sharing because of this bullshit. I've watched it / heard it has happened through messaging. I've got a few good ones that would be great to share but it's not worth the risk.[/QUOTE]In any other thread I'll share whatever information I have, and if the girl is of zero interest to me I'll share what I know about her here. But it's just too risky with how people take your posts and just run to these girls with them.

It's a shame because if this functioned right we really wouldn't need to all spend a hundred a month for a membership too. Imagine if we could just share info and not worry about it.

[QUOTE=Hadan1334;6037962]In any other thread I'll share whatever information I have, and if the girl is of zero interest to me I'll share what I know about her here. But it's just too risky with how people take your posts and just run to these girls with them.

It's a shame because if this functioned right we really wouldn't need to all spend a hundred a month for a membership too. Imagine if we could just share info and not worry about it.[/QUOTE]I share more privately via PM with those I know can be trusted, the things I share here are ones I'm done with or not interested in.

[QUOTE=Bigg2003;6037970]I share more privately via PM with those I know can be trusted, the things I share here are ones I'm done with or not interested in.[/QUOTE]I'd love to become one of the trusted ones and take my mongering game to the next level. So far, I am just a DI customer who occasionally finds a gem via listcrawler (very very rarely). I've been reluctant to pay for SA due to my fear that it was all chicks with GPS.

I'd appreciate any advice anyone can provide. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Drof1;6038033]I'd love to become one of the trusted ones and take my mongering game to the next level. So far, I am just a DI customer who occasionally finds a gem via listcrawler (very very rarely). I've been reluctant to pay for SA due to my fear that it was all chicks with GPS.

I'd appreciate any advice anyone can provide. Thanks![/QUOTE]It's kind of a joke at this point with everyone saying "you have to have game" on SA but it's not wrong. Lots of girls have gps but you can genuinely find some really hot girls for not bad prices if you treat them like a human being instead of a hooker. Super worth it imo (I say despite not using SA for a few months).

[QUOTE=Hadan1334;6038066]It's kind of a joke at this point with everyone saying "you have to have game" on SA but it's not wrong. Lots of girls have gps but you can genuinely find some really hot girls for not bad prices if you treat them like a human being instead of a hooker. Super worth it imo (I say despite not using SA for a few months).[/QUOTE]This is solid advice but I'd also add that as it relates to this thread, joining SA and sharing both positive and negative experiences helps a ton. There are MANY lurkers on here that only take information then immediately reach out to these women directly soliciting them. The spike in messages for a non-pro, especially after 1 or 2 meetings, scares the shit out of them and it doesn't take a genuis level of intelligence for them to know something's up.

I've had women tell me they've heard there's a review site but I just play dumb. Anyone who shares this site and info thinking it will help them is a moron!

[QUOTE=Bigred2006;6037866]I stopped sharing because of this bullshit. I've watched it / heard it has happened through messaging. I've got a few good ones that would be great to share but it's not worth the risk.[/QUOTE]It never used to be this way. Back 15 or 20 years ago, there was an assumed privacy and respect between us. I'm very active and keep almost everything in a small circle of trusted degenerates.

[QUOTE=Bigg2003;6038135]This is solid advice but I'd also add that as it relates to this thread, joining SA and sharing both positive and negative experiences helps a ton. There are MANY lurkers on here that only take information then immediately reach out to these women directly soliciting them. The spike in messages for a non-pro, especially after 1 or 2 meetings, scares the shit out of them and it doesn't take a genuis level of intelligence for them to know something's up.

I've had women tell me they've heard there's a review site but I just play dumb. Anyone who shares this site and info thinking it will help them is a moron![/QUOTE]If there was a private version of this thread it'd be so much nicer tbh. And I'm with you. I'm personally someone who lurked for a long time before trying my hand at sugarbabies. It really can help a ton. But like you said so many try to use this for leverage.

[QUOTE=MrPopular;6038170]It never used to be this way. Back 15 or 20 years ago, there was an assumed privacy and respect between us. I'm very active and keep almost everything in a small circle of trusted degenerates.[/QUOTE]Sadly, those days are long gone.

[QUOTE=Bigg2003;6038475]Sadly, those days are long gone.[/QUOTE]If anyone is willing to share contact info for sweet queen I would be glad to share info on a young lady I have seen a few times and enjoyed immensely. She isn't exactly UTR, but I know she doesn't advertise broadly. She lives in broad ripple. Maybe 35 yo, thin but not a spinner. Definitely likes her weed and a good fuck.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Drof1;6039081]If anyone is willing to share contact info for sweet queen I would be glad to share info on a young lady I have seen a few times and enjoyed immensely. She isn't exactly UTR, but I know she doesn't advertise broadly. She lives in broad ripple. Maybe 35 yo, thin but not a spinner. Definitely likes her weed and a good fuck.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Dude, If you don't have a SA account that she can check you out on you won't have a chance with her. She's not on SA that much and her original contact with you, even if you were, would be pretty spotty. She's cautious. But this is exactly what I was talking about in my original post and why I wouldn't give out her number or except PM's about her. You don't have a SA account yet you are asking for contact info on a chick who only has a SA account. She's not DI or an EB chick (I personally don't think they're different, both are just selling pussy) but she thinks she's different. So you have to play the game a little different. How are you going to tell her you got her number without outing a dude from this board. You answered your own question as to why you're not "one of the trusted" by asking this stupid ass question. Join SA, contact her and give it your best shot, or just move along, share some good intel and maybe you'll get "trusted".

TB.

[QUOTE=TommyButt;6039153]Dude, If you don't have a SA account that she can check you out on you won't have a chance with her. She's not on SA that much and her original contact with you, even if you were, would be pretty spotty. She's cautious. But this is exactly what I was talking about in my original post and why I wouldn't give out her number or except PM's about her. You don't have a SA account yet you are asking for contact info on a chick who only has a SA account. She's not DI or an EB chick (I personally don't think they're different, both are just selling pussy) but she thinks she's different. So you have to play the game a little different. How are you going to tell her you got her number without outing a dude from this board. You answered your own question as to why you're not "one of the trusted" by asking this stupid ass question. Join SA, contact her and give it your best shot, or just move along, share some good intel and maybe you'll get "trusted".

TB.[/QUOTE]I'm on SA and SB, but for some reason I click her link and many others on here and it tells me the profile cannot be found. I used a. Edu email I have through work which is widely unregulated and was given a free premium acct. I am curious if my acct is set up as a sugar baby because of this. Could this be I am getting the "profile not found" notice when following the links?

[QUOTE=TommyButt;6039153]Dude, If you don't have a SA account that she can check you out on you won't have a chance with her. She's not on SA that much and her original contact with you, even if you were, would be pretty spotty. She's cautious. But this is exactly what I was talking about in my original post and why I wouldn't give out her number or except PM's about her. You don't have a SA account yet you are asking for contact info on a chick who only has a SA account. She's not DI or an EB chick (I personally don't think they're different, both are just selling pussy) but she thinks she's different. So you have to play the game a little different. How are you going to tell her you got her number without outing a dude from this board. You answered your own question as to why you're not "one of the trusted" by asking this stupid ass question. Join SA, contact her and give it your best shot, or just move along, share some good intel and maybe you'll get "trusted".

TB.[/QUOTE]I've stopped sharing much about any. Got white knighted right out of a pretty good thing. Screwed up and gave a number out in pm and the bozo outed me with another. I was kinda done with that one, but it's nice to have a few that you can text and play. Rather than get your phone blown up because some fool told her you gave him your number. No numbers from me and no reviews unless I know I'm totally done. Not really even a choice.

[QUOTE=MrPopular;6038170]It never used to be this way. Back 15 or 20 years ago, there was an assumed privacy and respect between us. I'm very active and keep almost everything in a small circle of trusted degenerates.[/QUOTE]I've been outed more than a few times over the past 20 years. Anything I publicly share now, and it's about 1 percent of what I know, is shared with the assumption that it will come back around to me. There's no guy code here. No honor among mongers. If you could trust others on the board, everyone would win. Shitty chicks with GPS would change their attitude, or they simply wouldn't make it, each of us would save massive amounts of time (as would the girls who have to deal with players and BSers), and we would all reap a massive ROI. But that's a dream that will never come true. Way too many guys who are unable to see the big picture.

[QUOTE=ItsJustAHobby;6039668]I've stopped sharing much about any. Got white knighted right out of a pretty good thing. Screwed up and gave a number out in pm and the bozo outed me with another. I was kinda done with that one, but it's nice to have a few that you can text and play. Rather than get your phone blown up because some fool told her you gave him your number. No numbers from me and no reviews unless I know I'm totally done. Not really even a choice.[/QUOTE]I think the thing is that people don't realize that these girls aren't (mostly) on the site to sell sex. They're mostly there to find a long term relationship with someone that is financially beneficial. Most know and understand that means intimacy and sex is on the table. But (mostly) none of them want to be treated like an escort.

These guys lurk, see their info, get numbers, then message them asking about lowering their rates and other shit. And that's not even including the white knights. And all of this is usually to get the girl just to talk to them and maybe meet once, then they quit them after ruining it for everyone. Like at least stick with the girl if you're going to be an ass.

I've talked to so many girls who've had similar experiences like that.

Side note, talking to girls about their experiences in sugaring is a great way to build up an early conversation with them. At least from my experiences. There's just ways to do it without fucking everyone over.

[QUOTE=EarlyCuyler;6039970]I've been outed more than a few times over the past 20 years. Anything I publicly share now, and it's about 1 percent of what I know, is shared with the assumption that it will come back around to me. There's no guy code here. No honor among mongers. If you could trust others on the board, everyone would win. Shitty chicks with GPS would change their attitude, or they simply wouldn't make it, each of us would save massive amounts of time (as would the girls who have to deal with players and BSers), and we would all reap a massive ROI. But that's a dream that will never come true. Way too many guys who are unable to see the big picture.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better!