Supereloquent's Reports - Philadelphia

I have to say that "Andrea" had posing skill. I have also included a few of her Backpage ad pics.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]I have to say that "Andrea" had posing skill. I have also included a few of her Backpage ad pics.[/QUOTE]

I guess I gotta be the first to say that is pretty obvious that those BP pics were taken a long time, and a lot of drugs ago. Just another case of what you see in the pics, isn't close to what you get when you show up. Even if it is the same girl.

Does Kylie, Andrea and Nikki (picture on the link) stays on the same house?

[url]http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=79288[/url]

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]She said she comes out on the K when her internet business is slow.[/QUOTE]

Whether busy or slow, Idriss makes all his girls hit the streets, no matter how much online business they get. That kinda keeps them down and as a reminder of where he got them from. If a pimps girl starts feeling too good about herself and her wares, then she might leave him.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]
I told her flat out that I wasn’t interested in her internet deal. She was on the Ave and Ave customs would prevail. I would go for a normal K arrangement plus tip, if warranted. If that wasn’t acceptable I would drop her back at her corner. [/QUOTE]

That seems to be the norm. Unless you know otherwise they will hit you up with that, but regular K rate seem to prevail with his girls. Not a bad price if the date is good considering that the room is included. His girl aren't allowed to go to any hotels. Idriss keep a tight leash on them and "his" money.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=Supereloquent]
We arrived at “Andrea’s” place. It was a dicey neighborhood on a very narrow street. I had to park up on the sidewalk to allow cars to get past without hitting me. In the absence of having read Cooky’s intel, I think I may have deep-sixed the date right there.
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Actually that street isn't all that bad. Worse than it looks. I usually park on the ave and just walk back whenever a girls house is close to the ave. At least I have a chance to get away, in my car and out without the worry of being blocked in.


[QUOTE=Supereloquent]
Almost 45 minutes later this joker shows up with a spare for her to open the door. As an aside, he seemed very much like a pimp to me. He didn’t get out of his car. He strangely parked half-way down the street, and was doing his level best to stay well out of sight. His car was a pimped-up ride if ever I saw one. [/QUOTE]

That's Idriss..Will have to snap a pick of his car when I get a chance and post it so everyone here knows who he is.

Glad you posted the older pics of her from the backpage ad as well. Like Kylie the difference in the pics from BP to now is drastically dramatic.

[QUOTE=Boob Luvah]Does Kylie, Andrea and Nikki (picture on the link) stays on the same house?

[url]http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=79288[/url][/QUOTE]

Did I miss something? Where is the original report on Nikki? Please don't tell me I missed out on her.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Did I miss something? Where is the original report on Nikki? Please don't tell me I missed out on her.

CookyJar[/QUOTE]

It's a very small world on the K.

I did the original report on Nikki some time ago. I took that pic for which Boob Luvah provided a link. When I dated Nikki she had a room upstairs at that same location where Rachel and Andrea live. I had forgotten that until I saw the information and the link that Boob Luvah provided. I had approached that location from a different angle when dating Nikki. What a difference that can obviously make, because I didn't make the connection until just now. She had a roomie who was a pregnant junkie SW, dope sick in the bathroom at the time. I didn't see Nikki around when I was there with Andrea. Someone had reported a while ago, and sometime after I dated her, that Nikki got straightened out and moved back to NJ. She had somewhat the same MO as Andrea and Rachel: Nikki advertised on the internet as KC on YPE, but you could also pick her up on the K. It wouldn't surprise me if she was/is working for the same pimp that they are.

Here is a link to my original report from last July:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=841838&postcount=264[/url]

There are quite a few pics and there was a lot of discussion about her advertising and pics on YPE.

So, what you are telling us Boob Luvah is that Nikki is back in that location again, where Andrea and Rachel live?

The girl I dated a few nights ago (Ashley) is about the 3rd or 4th girl who has told me that Nikki got clean and is back home in South Jersey. Nikki was quite the rage on the other board (BestGFE) about a year ago, when some genius found her off a Backpage ad and tagged her as an UTR brilliant find. The mods got mad at me when I attempted to clue them in to the fact that Nikki(KC) was a SW who could be had for much lower prices if you found her on the stroll. Davey knows that whole story regarding the other board and its pompous members, especially that jerkauph named "easyrider".

I haven't had the time to write my report on Ashley yet--from what she told me, I am pretty sure that Ashley works for Teddy, although she insisted that she has no pimp and is "independent".

I believe also that Ashley is the sister of Jamie Lynn/Gianna--but she didn't tell me that--it was written in another post on this site by someone who dated her when she was 8 months pregnant last Summer. She has a little girl who is being taken care of by her mother--she claims she also had a baby boy about 3 years ago, but he died of sudden infant death or crib death. (I am also relatively certain that Ashley is the pregnant junkie SW in that particular scene or chapter of your great American novel as described in the post below). She looks very good right now, and has almost no sign of having had a child recently--body is superb and tight.

Ashley and I had a discussion on the car ride back to the K about pimps and the street scene. She told me that Teddy is good to his girls, and that she doesn't like Idriss at all, and cited a particular story as evidence of her dislike of him--all these girls who work for Teddy and Idriss know one another and some may have taken turns working for both. I am pretty certain that Nikki (KC) used to work for Teddy, because somebody ran a photo shoot of "KC and her friends" on BestGFE, which included pics of Krista (Krista the all-time BJ and FS queen of Teddy's stable--has worked for him since 2002). Yet, SuperE's encounter took place in Idriss's place.

I found this Ashley close to the corner of a certain convenience store (not WaWa, lol). She is extremely cute with blue eyes and a fair complexion with "fake" red hair--the rug is brunette and doesn't match the drapes. I was disappointed in that fact, because I have a thing for redheads.

Just the facts, ma'am.

Oh, and Boob Luvah is IMO apparently asking-not telling, about Nikki and whether she is still around.

Love the pics that both you and Cooky posted of Andrea-her flexibility is quite an alluring attribute. I would venture to say that she may be the most flexible SW ever portrayed on these pages over the years--perhaps a new category can be created for her in the SW of the Year thread.

[QUOTE=Chriseff]I believe also that Ashley is the sister of Jamie Lynn/Gianna--but she didn't tell me that--it was written in another post on this site by someone who dated her when she was 8 months pregnant last Summer.[/QUOTE]

I heard that as well, but can't confirm it. Maybe Davey can; he is the official K maven in residence.

[QUOTE=Chriseff] (I am also relatively certain that Ashley is the pregnant junkie SW in that particular scene or chapter of your great American novel as described in the post below).[/QUOTE]

Ashley WAS the pregnant SW barfing in the bathroom one time when I dated Nikki at Idriss's place last summer. And, yes, I DO tend to be verbose, don't I? :D

[QUOTE=Chriseff] She looks very good right now, and has almost no sign of having had a child recently--body is superb and tight.[/QUOTE]

I am very glad to hear it. I am sure I will be running into her on the K some time.

[QUOTE=Chriseff]Ashley and I had a discussion on the car ride back to the K about pimps and the street scene. She told me that Teddy is good to his girls, and that she doesn't like Idriss at all, and cited a particular story as evidence of her dislike of him--all these girls who work for Teddy and Idriss know one another and some may have taken turns working for both. I am pretty certain that Nikki (KC) used to work for Teddy, because somebody ran a photo shoot of "KC and her friends" on BestGFE, which included pics of Krista (Krista the all-time BJ and FS queen of Teddy's stable--has worked for him since 2002).[/QUOTE]

That place may have been Teddy's once upon a time, as you surmised, and now is Idriss's. That would make sense if both Nikki and Ashley once worked for Teddy, and Teddy set Idriss up in business.

I have dated Krista, and I did a photo spread on her. I nicknamed her the "maneater," because she can take your cock halfway down your ball sack, best DT ever!

Here is a link to my report and pics of Krista:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=821337&postcount=161[/url]

Krista gave me the name "Amanda" at the time of our date. This seems in tune with the MO of Teddy's and Idriss's girls: one name for the internet and a different name for the street. However, many mongers seem to know "Amanda" as Krista on the street:

[QUOTE=Chriseff]Yet, SuperE's encounter took place in Idriss's place.[/QUOTE]

Yes, it most certainly did. And it was the same place I dated Nikki last summer and noticed her roomie, the barfing, very pregnant Ashley.

[QUOTE=Chriseff]I found this Ashley close to the corner of a certain convenience store (not WaWa, lol).[/QUOTE]

Gee, what one could THAT be? LOL

To help clear the air further concerning our recent written shoving match over the Aramingo Wawa: you have been a supporter of me in this forum, and you should not have been a target of my ire in that regard. As I explained and apologized to Mike80, I was feeling a bit testy, and I was inappropriately trying to take down everyone in my line of fire, even friendlies.

[QUOTE=Chriseff] She is extremely cute with blue eyes and a fair complexion with "fake" red hair--the rug is brunette and doesn't match the drapes. I was disappointed in that fact, because I have a thing for redheads.[/QUOTE]

I have a thing for redheads too. It stems from a very hot encounter as a youth with redheaded identical triplet very distant cousins. Perhaps one day I will write it for the nostalgia thread, although it was a civvie and not a SW encounter.

[QUOTE=Chriseff] Just the facts, ma'am.[/QUOTE]

What can I tell you? I was having a bad hair day when being sardonic in a few of my recent reports. I will eventually tell the full stories, and show pics of all my recent "Joe Friday" summaries, because they were all real.

[QUOTE=Chriseff]Oh, and Boob Luvah is IMO apparently asking-not telling, about Nikki and whether she is still around.[/QUOTE]

His inquiry jogged my memory that I dated Nikki in the very house where I dated Andrea and noticed Rachel.

I haven't seen Nikki around since last summer. I wish her well if she has gotten clean, and gotten her life back together. She has one "bodacious set of tatas," from one famous movie line, and was a very fun date, so she is welcome on my K dance card ANYtime.

[QUOTE=Chriseff]Love the pics that both you and Cooky posted of Andrea-her flexibility is quite an alluring attribute. I would venture to say that she may be the most flexible SW ever portrayed on these pages over the years--perhaps a new category can be created for her in the SW of the Year thread.[/QUOTE]

Andrea IS flexible. She volunteered that pose with her leg stretched high in the air. I would love to do a longer photo session with her in the future. She would have been well served to do so, and be less abrupt, on our recent date. I can be very generous when I get what I want.

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[QUOTE=Supereloquent]

We arrived at “Andrea’s” place. It was a dicey neighborhood on a very narrow street. I had to park up on the sidewalk to allow cars to get past without hitting me. In the absence of having read Cooky’s intel, I think I may have deep-sixed the date right there. [/QUOTE]

IMHO, Most of the areas, side streets east and west of Kensington Avenue are dicey. Anyone who has done a loop, driven around the block anywhere off of Kensington Avenue has driven through a dicey street.

Are you suggesting that my intel had anything to do with your having a bad date?

[QUOTE=Supereloquent] When we got inside, the upstairs “neighbor” came to the top of the stairs and I recognized her as “Rachel,” also recently reported on by Cooky. I further recognized her as the former “Kylie,” previously reported on a few times in this forum when she was working for a pimp (or maybe she still was; for all I know both “Andrea” and “Rachel’ were working the internet and the Ave for a pimp), and providing service which was sometimes OK and sometimes terrible. “Andrea” said that “Rachel’ also worked on-line in their escort service. I guess it is good that she has gotten out from under her pimp, and has become an entrepreneur, if that is, in fact, the case. Cooky’s report and photo spread indicates that at least he got her on a good day. My first hand experience with Kylie has been all bad, and it has also been reported on as inconsistent by a number of other mongers, but I guess everyone deserves a second chance,so let’s see if her rep can be repaired and continue to be good.[/QUOTE]

Everyone is different. Each situation deserves its own considerations. In the situation you have described, I would have done things a little different. That is why I am who I am, and you are who you are. Even with the knowledge of a pass bad date, rushing though my memory banks, I would have tried to turn things around to my advantage. It may not have worked, but I would have tried. There is no way to tell if another approach would have worked, but, IMHO it would have been worth a try.

I would have tried for a threesome. All dates are hit and miss. Sometime you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you. Last time the bear got you. IMHO, you were due (for a good one). You had two hot girls, Rachel and Andrea, in the same building, and you did not at least give it the old college try. During our date, Andrea told me that anything was possible, including threesomes.

For certain, knowing Rachel’s history, I would have set up some rules. I would have tried to play Andrea against Rachel. Why? Andrea is the better business woman and an unknown. I would have employed her as lead worker. I would have played the, “It could be good for your business,” card. And, I would have tried to use my pass bad date with Rachel/Kylee as leverage. In front of Andrea, I would have said to Rachel, “We dated before and I was not happy with your performance. If you are not up to it, we do not have to do this.” I would have been looking into their eyes, at their body language for any hint of a bad outcome. This is when your spider senses are most important. My wicked, oversexed big head would have been working overtime, playing every angle, trying to get these two hotties, together with me, in the same bed.


[QUOTE=Supereloquent]“Andrea” couldn’t get in her place, and then realized that she had locked her keys inside. This would have also normally had me bolting the hell out of there, and thinking it was a set-up. However, as it was, I was just thinking that SWs, whether entrepreneurial or not, weren’t rocket scientists,…[/QUOTE]

Ditto my last suggestion. I would have been thinking – lemons into Lemonade. When given a bad situation some people go immediately to the negative and brood. I am not a rocket scientist either. I do know enough to try and turn unfavorable conditions into favorable outcomes. My first suggestion to, Andrea, would have been, “Let us go visit your roommates.” I would have been thinking threesome all the way

There is at least two other rooms in the house. Rachel was locked out of her front room during our date. We used a middle area which was open to anyone walking by. A blonde (that looked a lot like Nikki) has the back room. I did not care in the least as the hot blonde next door (who could have been Nikki with a dye job), walked pass showing off her bare bottom. Also, after seeing the layout of the house, I would have suggested that we take the pictures right there in the hallway. I made that suggestion to Andrea during our date. She was up for it. Hot pictures taken of Andrea posing on the carpeted stair would have been the bees knees. Knowing me – and I do know me – I would have tried to fuck Andrea right there on the stairs. I would have at least opted for a Blow Job on the steps while we were waiting. But, that's me and the way I think – always trying to make things better for the Company – the sign of a good business person.




[QUOTE=Supereloquent] She got a phone call after the first cup, and it was a date from her internet ad. He was coming off 95, and needed directions. She said he would be there in about 30 minutes, so we would have to “hurry,” for the second cup. She knew I wanted more than one, because we had talked about it, but she clearly did not have a clue that shoving me aside for this internet date, and having me “hurry,” was going to be a downer for me, and cut into my usual generosity for a tip, and maybe lessen my desire to see her again. That’s another thing I don’t like about internet pros. [/QUOTE]

Once again, I ask you not to place your bad fortunes at my feet. I had no idea you were there when I called Andrea. ;) I was on my way back from, “Franklin Mills,” when I decided to call Andrea. At any rate this seems to have been you problem and not mine. But, had I been in your shoes, I would have reminded Andrea of her responsibilities to me. I would have reminded her of the bird in hand rule. In short, I would have simply told her to tell him to park and wait. However, I am glad you choose to be rushed. I hate waiting. LOL I resent your calling me a “Internet Sucker.”

Andrea got a phone during our date. Fortunately for me, the call came at the very end of our date – I was finished. Had she gotten the call two minutes earlier I would have probably felt the same way you did. [u]Timing is everything[/u].

[QUOTE=Supereloquent] …, regardless of any of my complaints or her shortcomings, this gal CAN pose and fuck!) YMMV[/QUOTE]

YMMV – Your Mileage May Very – is not that the whole thing in a nut shell. Timing is everything. It always comes down to either being in the right place at the right time or being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It starts at birth. It ends when you die. In between you either learn to make the best of it or you do not. In any given situation it is up to the people involved to make the best of it or not. No one likes it when things do not go their way - but, “Shit Happens.” When you step in a pile of shit, my suggestion is to just wipe it off. Do not stand around cussing – the shit is not listening. Life is what you make of it, at the time it is happening. Afterwards, it is too late.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]
Nikki was everything you could want: cute, firm gorgeous body, smiling and pleasant, a real GFE in all those respects, and a sexily perky hostess. She gave me a vanilla orange soda that tasted like a liquid creamsicle. It was delicious and reminded me that I hadn't had a creamsicle in decades.

Nikki did a reasonable BJ but couldn’t DT. She took direction well but you could tell this is not exactly something she has been practicing a lot. She was much better at fucking and had a very comfortably tight pussy. I took her mish for quite a while and finished her off with doggie. I just knew I had to get views both of her great tits and that terrific ass while pumping that soft wet puss.[/QUOTE]

WTF – Forget Rachel, I would have been after a Andrea and Nikki threesome. In fact, if I had the staying powers you have stated you have, I would have double the street wages, added in a tip and challenged them all to a foursome. Help me Jesus, the man has lost his mind. You forgot about Nikki - how could that be? I could be wrong, I only got glimpses of the girl I saw – but, I swear Nikki looks a lot like the cute blond, with the bodacious set of tatas, I saw during my first visit. You should have asked about her. I understand about the bad date with Rachel/Kylee. I do not understand about the 45 minute wait for a key. I will never understand how you could forget about Kikki and the location where your date with her took place. If you did not want them, you should have asked for my sake.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent] And it was the same place I dated Nikki last summer… [/QUOTE]

Now he remembers.

[QUOTE=Pedey]…Up sold me for CIMWS. 40 but guys let me tell you this chick is a cock sucking machine when she's into it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Leewantsoral]Had an amazing dream last night about a girl named Rachel.
When she first got in, she told me $50. I said no and said $20 and if its good I will give you a bonus. Well, she earned her bonus for sure! I facefucked her for at least 5 minutes straight. It was amazing. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Supereloquent] She was on the Ave and Ave customs would prevail. I would go for a normal K arrangement plus tip, if warranted.[/QUOTE]

I am stumped. What exactly is the going rates. I have read Andreas rates as posted on,”BackPage.” They are there for all to see. They are clear and precise. What are the average Avenue rates. I have not the slightest idea what Supereloquent and the rest of you are talking about. Avenue prices? Ave customs? WTF are you talking about? $40. For a CIMWS car date. $20 for a 5 minute amazing facefuck? I am so confused.

Lets clear the air.

1. $30 or less for a car date – more if she is nice and FS is also provided.
2. The same for a inside date at a crummy $10 spot.
3. $40 for a trip to the Carlyle – Half and Half date with no frills.
4. $50 for really good service from a pretty girl in a nice room.
5. A good tip is $5, no more than $10
6. Favorites get more.
7. Pictures are a separate negotiation, but ought not go higher than an additional $20.

If I did pay for pussy (and I don’t). I would consider these fair.

FYI: If you total up: $50 for services, $20 for a room at the Carlyle or $35+ at a better hotel, throw in another $5 or $10 for snacks or cigarettes and a good date could cost you an average of $90 plus Tip. Add in pictures and multiple cups (additional $20 if you stay an extra hour at the Carlyle) and you are talking a small fortune.

Are these the average Kensington Ave rates? I do not know. I do not know what others pay. I only know what I do. I know I pay extra for pictures. I do not know what Supereloquent pays, the average SW, for multiple cups and lengthy dates over an hour. I would suspect that he pays more than $20 for multi pops, blow Jobs to completion and Full service to completion. I do not think anyone pays the rates shown on backpage and other sites advertising the services of escorts, for a date in a car or $10 room. In fact I do not know of anyone, who drives the Kensington avenue stroll, who would pay the high rates posted on Backpage and similar sites, to a streetwalker.

Okay, I am done. whew!!! LOL

Supereloquent, say your piece and then let’s drop it. I just wanted to pull your chain a little. LOL

:)

CookyJar

Let me firstly say that you, like I, sometimes have more sensitivity than we should, and read more into the reports here than is meant. Nothing I said in my report about "Andrea" was meant to be a personal affront to you in any way whatsoever.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]IMHO, Most of the areas, side streets east and west of Kensington Avenue are dicey. Anyone who has done a loop, driven around the block anywhere off of Kensington Avenue has driven through a dicey street. [/QUOTE]

I agree. Even the K is "dicey." That particular area was just creeping me out that day. I thought I heard a gunshot up the street, and there were some nefarious characters hanging about. But, all that aside, my main caution was that I had never been with this SW and I thought I had never been in this house (it turns out I had; I just hadn't remembered at the time; so much for my memory; I have a myriad of "excuses" in that regard, but the most plausible are that the last time I was there was last summer, I approached it from a different angle, and in a different manner (driving vs. walking), and a lot of SW activity has rolled under my bridge since then).

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Are you suggesting that my intel had anything to do with your having a bad date?[/QUOTE]

I am suggesting nothing of the kind. Your intel made me comfy going into that house in the first place. As for the date, YMMV always applies.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Everyone is different. Each situation deserves its own considerations. In the situation you have described, I would have done things a little different. That is why I am who I am, and you are who you are. Even with the knowledge of a pass bad date, rushing though my memory banks, I would have tried to turn things around to my advantage. It may not have worked. There is no way to tell in advance which approach will work, but, IMHO it would have been worth a try.[/QUOTE]

You are so right. Everyone is different. I had a bad taste in my mouth from several past unappetizing Rachel/Kylie experiences. Even though she is somewhat good looking (even if clearly being more emaciated and worn from the drugs) I didn't trot upstairs and try to partake. I preferred to go out on the K again for a fresh kill, which I did.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]I would have tried for a threesome. All dates are hit and miss. Sometime you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you. Last time the bear got you. IMHO, you were due. You had two hot girls like Rachel and Andrea in the same building, and you did not at least give it the old college try. During our date, Andrea told me that anything was possible, including threesomes. For certain, knowing Rachel’s history, I would have set up some rules. I would have tried to play Andrea against Rachel. Why? Andrea is the better business woman and an unknown. I would have employed her as lead worker. I would have played the, “It could be good for your business,” card. And, I would have tried to use my pass bad date with Rachel/Kylee as leverage. In front of Andrea, I would have said to Rachel, “We dated before and I was not happy with your performance. If you are not up to it, we do not have to do this.” I would have been looking into their eyes, at their body motions for any hint of a bad outcome. This is when your spider senses are most important. My wicked, oversexed big head would have been working overtime, playing every angle, trying to get these two hotties, together with me, in the same bed.[/QUOTE]

Like you said, we are all different. I had absolutely no interest in Rachel/Kylie, for a one-on-one, a threesome, or whatever. Moreover, she looked and sounded like shit, as if she was badly in need of a fix or had a hangover, whatever. I prefer my dates to be alert and conscious, even if I had the inclination to give her a second (fourth?) chance.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Ditto my last suggestion. I would have been thinking – lemons into Lemonade. When given a bad situation some people go immediately to the negative and brood. I am not a rocket scientist either. I do know enough to try and turn unfavorable conditions into favorable outcomes. My first suggest would have been, “Let us go visit your roommates.” I would have been thinking threesome all the way[/QUOTE]

Rachel/Kylie was the only other one there at the time and, like I said, I wasn't interested in "meeting" her or doing her, or doing a threesome including her. I wasn't "brooding." I do what I want, not what someone else might do. If I KNEW it was going to take 45 minutes for the joker "landlord" Idriss to bring the keys, I probably would have left as soon as "Andrea" realized she was locked out. There was nothing else there in which I had an interest.
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[QUOTE=CookyJar] There is at least two other rooms in the house. (Rachel was locked out of her room during our date.[/QUOTE]

It seems that SWs locking themselves out is an epidemic at that place. I suspect that what really is going on is that Idriss locks them out so that he knows when they are using the rooms, and can come with the keys, let them in, and knows he is due some dough.

[QUOTE=CookyJar] We used a middle area which was open to anyone walking by. I did not care in the least as the hot blonde next door, walked by showing off her bare bottom.)[/QUOTE]

I suggested that "Andrea" and I go upstairs but that wasn't an option for whatever reason. Maybe Rachel/Kylie was entertaining up there. Maybe someone, male or female, was sleeping or wasted. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. However, upstairs wasn't available.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Also, after seeing the layout of the house, I would have suggested that we take the pictures right there in the hallway. I had made that suggestion to Andrea during our date. She was up for it. Hot pictures taken of Andrea posing on the carpeted stair would have been the bees knees. Knowing me – and I do know me – I would have tried to fuck her right there on the stairs. I would have at least opted for a Blow Job on the steps while we were waiting. But, that me and the way I think – always trying to make things better for the Company – the sign of a good business person.[/QUOTE]

I AM a good business person, and I would have been open to some photos on the stairs, or a BJ, or even fucking her there. But the front door was unlocked and her "landlord' was supposed to be there "right away," not to mention that anyone from the street could walk inside; several suspicious looking characters from the street were eyeballing the situation closely whenever we looked outside for the "landlord," as it was. If my ESP would have been working well enough to know that her "landlord" was her pimp, and my crystal ball would have been working well enough to know it was going to take 45 minutes for him to get there with the keys, and that our time would have been interrupted by an internet call, and I would have had a fearless attitude about unexpected and uninvited intruders to the hallway from the street, then I may have done the stairway routine. As it was, I was preferring and looking forward to the expected comfort and privacy of her apartment.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Once again, I ask you not to place your bad fortunes at my feet.[/QUOTE]

I haven't and, as I said, you are being too sensitive about the whole thing.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]I had no idea you were there when I called Andrea. I was on my way back from, “Franklin Mills,” when I decided to call Andrea.[/QUOTE]

It wasn't you to whom I was referring as the caller.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]At any rate this seems to have been you problem and not mine.[/QUOTE]

I never said it was. All I did say was that your report caused me to at least try her out and feel that the situation wasn't an LE sting or a robbery. YMMV ALWAYS applies.

[QUOTE=CookyJar] But, had I been in your shoes, I would have reminded Andrea of her responsibilities to me. I would have reminded her of the bird in hand rule. In short, I would have simply told her to tell him to park and wait.[/QUOTE]

I almost did that, but I already had FS twice and taken pics. It was time to depart and let no tip behind.

[QUOTE=CookyJar] However, I am glad you choose to be rushed. I hate waiting. LOL [/QUOTE]

I am pretty sure it wasn't you. You wouldn't have needed directions to her place, as you had already been there. Besides, I saw the dude in question when I got in my car, and unless you have transformed into a short white guy, you were not he.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]I resent your calling me a “Internet Sucker.”[/QUOTE]

I wasn't. But you know the old saying: "if the shoe fits...." I don't do internet dates myself, because I find rates far more reasonable on the K with the same women who advertise on line. So, if I seem acerbic regarding those who do internet dates, tough noogies...LOL.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]YMMV – Your Mileage May Very – is not that the whole thing in a nut shell. Timing is everything. It always comes down to either being in the right place at the right time or being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It starts at birth. It ends when you die. In between you either learn to make the best of it or you do not. In any given situation it is up to the people involved to make the best of it or not. No one likes it when things do not go their way - but, “Shit Happens.” When you step in a pile of shit, my suggestion is to just wipe it off. Do not stand around cussing – the shit is not listening. Life is what you make of it, at the time it is happening. Afterward, it is too late.[/QUOTE]

Like you said, everyone is different. I cuss up a storm when I step in a pile of shit. But that's me. I have been know to have a temper. If I get handed lemons I might just squeeze them in someone's face, cause I don't much care for lemonade, unless the person handing me the lemons throws in some Tequila and salt. Yes, "shit happens," but I don't have to like it, nor do I have to play nice. C'est la vies.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]WTF – Forget Rachel, I would have been after a Andrea and Nikki threesome.[/QUOTE]

Nikki wasn't around and hasn't been for some time. I would do her in a threesome as well.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]In fact, if I had the staying powers you have stated you have, I would have double the street wages, added in a tip and challenged them all to a foursome.[/QUOTE]

To tell you the truth I like the novelty idea of a SW threesome to watch the girls doing it too, and taking pics of that, which is hot. But, I have done civvie threesomes, and, to be honest, I can only give one girl the proper attention she deserves at a time. The exceptions might be one girl playing with herself as I get sucked or fuck the other, having one girl lick or suck my balls or ass while the other sucks on my dick, or having one girl play with the other as I fuck her. This is all very nice as a different experience, but I have done it all, and I actually prefer doing it with civvies. I like the idea of at least trying it with SWs for the photo potential, because civvies are notoriously shy that way.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Help me Jesus, the man has lost his mind. I could be wrong, I only got glimpses of the girl I saw – but, I share Nikki looks a lot like the cute blond, with the bodacious set of tatas, I saw during my first visit. You should have asked about her.[/QUOTE]

Unless Nikki has returned to the life, changed her hair color, and her name, then she wasn't who you glimpsed. It was probably Amber, who wasn't there the day I dated Andrea. And why would I ask about someone who wasn't even there? I have the digits I need to get in touch and ask anything I like, either just to shoot the shit, or when I happen to be in the neighborhood and am in the mood for a reprise.

[QUOTE=CookyJar] I understand about the bad date with Rachel/Kylee.[/QUOTE]

Yep, I am not really interested in a repeat.

[QUOTE=CookyJar] I do not understand about the 45 minute wait for a key. [/QUOTE]

What's not to understand? The idiot took 45 minutes to get there after he said he would be "right there."

[QUOTE=CookyJar]I will never understand how you could forget about Kikki and the location where your date with her took place. If you did not want them, you should have asked for my sake.[/QUOTE]

Like I explained before, my date with Nikki was last summer and there have been many SWs since. Plus, my understanding is that Nikki is cleaned up and already out of the life. When Boob Luvah asked about Andrea and Rachel and Nikki all being in the same house, something just clicked in my head about that location. I had always walked to it from the K before. This time I approached it from Allegheny by car. It's funny how the same place can look different depending upon how you get there, especially when separated in time, and with different people and with different apartments/rooms.


[QUOTE=CookyJar]I stumped. What exactly is the going rates. I have read Andreas rates as posted on,”BackPage.” They are there for all to see. They are clear and precise. What Supereloquent and the rest of you are talking about, I have not the slightest idea. Avenue prices? Ave customs? WTF are you talking about? $40. For a CIMWS car date. $20 for a 5 minute amazing facefuck? I am so confused.[/QUOTE]

YOU are the one always vaguely or never mentioning prices and not wanting to detail prices, and now you want an explanation, and are detailing the going rates on the K? LOL I did a very long past report explanation of this already, so I will not repeat myself.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Lets clear the air.

1. $30 or less for a car date – more if she is nice and FS is also provided.
2. The same for a inside date at a crummy $10 spot.
3. $40 for a trip to the Carlyle – Half and Half date with no frills.
4. $50 for really good service from a pretty girl in a nice room.
5. A good tip is $5, no more than $10
6. Favorites get more.
7. Pictures are a separate negotiation, but ought not go higher than an additional $20.
If I did pay for pussy (and I don’t). I would consider these fair.

Are they the average Kensington Ave rate? I do not know. I do not know what others pay. I know I pay extra for pictures. I do not know what Supereloquent pays, the average SW, for multiple cup and lengthy dates over an hour. I would suspect that he pays more than $20 for multi pops, blow Jobs to completion and Full service to completion. I do not think anyone pays the rates shown on backpage and other sites advertising the services of escorts, for a date in a car or $10 room. In fact I do not know of anyone, who drives the Kensington avenue stroll, who would pay those high rates posted on Backpage and similar sites to a streetwalker.[/QUOTE]

This all sounds about right. I don't know why you would say you don't know what I pay for something "long" or "special," or what I consider Ave rates, because I detailed all that in a report not long ago. Maybe you are just not that interested in reading all my stuff. I can't blame you, LOL. Here is the link:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=953281&postcount=1040[/url]

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Supereloquent, say your piece and then let’s drop it. I just wanted to pull you chain a little. LOL[/QUOTE]

You knew that I would "say my piece," and I have, and, yes, let's drop it. You pulled on my chain a little, and I pulled back on yours a little. No ill will was or is intended.

[QUOTE=Goofygoon]Maybe he meant heresy.

Heresy: a belief that rejects the orthodox tenets of a religion.[/QUOTE]

I consider Tom a friend and I sincerely doubt that he meant either word. I was just playfully pulling on his chain a bit. :D

I have been known to use a word incorrectly now and then myself.

For clearing the air regarding your machine-gun attack a few days ago--it really didn't bother me, because I knew what I said was that I go to WaWa for gas, food and the bathroom--not to pick up girls.





"......Ashley WAS the pregnant SW barfing in the bathroom one time when I dated Nikki at Idriss's place last summer. And, yes, I DO tend to be verbose, don't I?......"QUOTE from your post





My point wasn't verbosity--it was that you have stated that you are working on a book about your exploits--and I was viewing it as a scene from your own movie about life on the K.






"......I have dated Krista, and I did a photo spread on her. I nicknamed her the "maneater," because she can take your cock halfway down your ball sack, best DT ever!......"QUOTE from your post





I dated Krista many times when she first appeared on the scene--let me tell you, she was smoking hot back then. She is definitely skilled at all phases of pleasuring a man. One time, we tried full service in my car at her suggestion--I had her in the front seat up against my steering wheel--it was fucking awesome, but I ended up breaking my car seat as a result. It was a bit difficult explaining how that happened to my SO.





"......To help clear the air further concerning our recent written shoving match over the Aramingo Wawa: you have been a supporter of me in this forum, and you should not have been a target of my ire in that regard....." QUOTE from your post





Appreciate your ability and willingness to acknowledge this--I did no "shoving"--just stood there and took it. No big deal.





".....I will eventually tell the full stories, and show pics of all my recent "Joe Friday" summaries, because they were all real...."QUOTE from your post





I was just using the "just the facts, ma'am" reference because I was a huge fan of the old Dragnet--to me, it was one of the best comedies ever on TV--trouble is, it wasn't a comedy.





"....His inquiry jogged my memory that I dated Nikki in the very house where I dated Andrea and noticed Rachel...."QUOTE from your post





I ran into Nikki several times early last Summer--she insisted that I come back to the house--I wanted no part of that and was willing to go to a motel--she said she didn't have the time. When I saw her, she looked a bit worn and nowhere as nice as she did in the pics you posted or the ones on BGFE.

Nikki is definitely a beautiful girl, and--as I said, guys were raving about her personality and skills all over the other site. I was impressed with her sweetness and smile--a true gem--hope she has her life back and goes on to be happy and do good things.





".....Andrea IS flexible. She volunteered that pose with her leg stretched high in the air. I would love to do a longer photo session with her in the future. She would have been well served to do so, and be less abrupt, on our recent date. I can be very generous when I get what I want....."QUOTE from your post





Definitely would like to date "Andrea"--but, as stated earlier--I don't want to go to any house--just don't trust a situation where I have so little control. In my early monger days (1991)--I was conned into going back to a house by a SW in Trenton. As we were undressing, her boyfriend and his friend Mr. Glock showed up--needless to say, I was robbed and had to beg for my life. Got the hell out of there real fast, thanking the Lord for allowing my ass to be saved.

Having trouble using the quote function on this site--had to improvise.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]The base price for an average/good BJ on the K is a Jack, and it would be about .5 for FS. A tip for pics and great service would depend on the good job of the provider and the generosity of the monger. For a long, multiple cup date of several hours, my rule of thumb is to take take these base rates and multiply them by their frequency on the date, "volume discount" that a bit, and add a tip for the pics, the total time spent and the enjoyability of the experience, which takes into account both skill and attitude. For me the damages tend to range between 1.2 and 1.5 for a long multiple cup date with pics. If the experience is really outstanding I might also buy the girl a meal, several packs of cigarettes, etc. afterward.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]YOU are the one always vaguely or never mentioning prices and not wanting to detail prices, and now you want an explanation, and are detailing the going rates on the K? LOL[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Street Steve]...How much did she cost you?... What did you do with her?... What drugs does she do?.. [/QUOTE]


I do not mention prices because I never pay. I have heard a rumor that buying pussy is against the law. Furthermore, I know for a fact that only thugs and deviants pay hookers for sex.

It irks me every time I see references to, "a avenue rate." (It irks me every time I write in a post that I gave up the standard avenue rate.) The reason I write that I gave up the standard is because, just as sure as god made little green apples, someone is going to ask, “What YOU pay.” What you pay, what I pay, what anyone pays is irrelevant. Half of the guys asking don’t even live in the Philadelphia area.

Rates varies. Your own rates vary from a Hamilton (what ever that is) to 1.5 (what ever that means). I am guessing that $$$, Hamilton and 1.5 are all terms that are meant to fool LE (whatever that is). The only way you can get the kind of dates that I am use to having and the kind of dates I believe you have, with a Hamilton, is if Hamilton is carrying a gun. ROFLMBAS There are as many going rates as there are mongers going. Besides, why are guys so interested in what the next guy is paying. Should not we be more interested in what we are paying? (Oops, I meant to say what ya’ll are paying.) I am old school, I believe in calling a buck a buck, a fin a fin and a yard a yard. LOL If I did ever care to give a young lady a yard fifty for service rendered – that would be my business. (A yard fifty in rupees is what I meant.)

(BTW - Street Steve is a valued member of the Philly Forum. However, there is a better way of getting answers to most of his questions. Go Find her.)

CookyJar

[QUOTE=CookyJar]I do not mention prices because I never pay. I have heard a rumor that buying pussy is against the law. Furthermore, I know for a fact that only thugs and deviants pay hookers for sex. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, I heard the same rumor. I never pay or have paid for sex either. It's illegal, right? ANYthing I might mention or have mentioned in that regard is a "what if," and a "suppose that," all pure speculation and fiction. I am not a thug, but I am a self-admitted deviant. But I still don't pay hookers for sex.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]It irks me every time I see references to, "a avenue rate." (It irks me every time I write in a post that I gave up the standard avenue rate.) The reason I write that I gave up the standard is because, just as sure as god made little green apples, someone is going to ask, “What YOU pay.” What you pay, what I pay, what anyone pays is irrelevant. Half of the guys asking don’t even live in the Philadelphia area.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. It's all absolutely irrelevant.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Rates varies. Your own rates vary from a Hamilton (what ever that is) to 1.5 (what ever that means). I am guessing that $$$, Hamilton and 1.5 are all terms that are meant to fool LE (whatever that is). The only way you can get the kind of dates that I am use to having and the kind of dates I believe you have, with a Hamilton, is if Hamilton is carrying a gun. ROFLMBAS There are as many going rates as there are mongers going. Besides, why are guys so interested in what the next guy is paying. Should not we be more interested in what we are paying? (Oops, I meant to say what ya’ll are paying.) I am old school, I believe in calling a buck a buck, a fin a fin and a yard a yard. LOL If I did ever care to give a young lady a yard fifty for service rendered – that would be my business. (A yard fifty in rupees is what I meant.)[/QUOTE]

Engaging in the fiction of "rates" is useless since I don't pay for pussy. So, I agree with you, it is my business. However, IF I were to do such a thing, which I never have, I have, on occasion, written some suggested fiction for others to consider.

You have an excellent point about one thing: IF one is going to talk about rates for other thugs to engage in illegal activity, then one is not fooling anyone with cutesy nicks for what is transparently obvious.

[QUOTE=CookyJar](BTW - Street Steve is a valued member of the Philly Forum. However, there is a better way of getting answers to most of his questions. Go Find her.)[/QUOTE]

Yeppers.

[QUOTE=Chriseff]For clearing the air regarding your machine-gun attack a few days ago--it really didn't bother me, because I knew what I said was that I go to WaWa for gas, food and the bathroom--not to pick up girls.[/QUOTE]

I totally realize what everyone, including you, was really saying. I was just in a mood, and role-playing an ornery, rock-throwing SOB. I realized that it doesn't take much effort to become an asshole in this forum. Maybe that's why so many do it.

[QUOTE=Chriseff] My point wasn't verbosity--it was that you have stated that you are working on a book about your exploits--and I was viewing it as a scene from your own movie about life on the K.[/QUOTE]

Ahhhh, now I understand. Eighty-per cent of communication is non-verbal, so we miss a LOT in here with mere words. I really am writing a book, but is about a lot more than just my exploits on the K. If they make a movie about it, it will be x-rated for sure.

[QUOTE=Chriseff]I dated Krista many times when she first appeared on the scene--let me tell you, she was smoking hot back then. She is definitely skilled at all phases of pleasuring a man. One time, we tried full service in my car at her suggestion--I had her in the front seat up against my steering wheel--it was fucking awesome, but I ended up breaking my car seat as a result. It was a bit difficult explaining how that happened to my SO.[/QUOTE]

Several thoughts come to mind as an excuse, such as an auto accident against a soft pylon.:D That probably wasn't too far from the truth. Krista can be tough on you, LOL.

[QUOTE=Chriseff]Appreciate your ability and willingness to acknowledge this--I did no "shoving"--just stood there and took it. No big deal.[/QUOTE]

You remained quite restrained and a gentleman about it. I could benefit from lessons.

[QUOTE=Chriseff]I was just using the "just the facts, ma'am" reference because I was a huge fan of the old Dragnet--to me, it was one of the best comedies ever on TV--trouble is, it wasn't a comedy.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes the funniest things were not meant to be funny. I am a movie fanatic and a widely acclaimed "worst movie of all time" used to be "Plan Nine from Outer Space." However, this was a case where it was so bad that it was good, and it has become quite the cult classic, and funny as hell, precisely because it was intended to be serious. It is chock-full of bad writing, bad acting, bad editing, inconsistencies, gaffes, and mistakes of all kinds.

[QUOTE=Chriseff]I ran into Nikki several times early last Summer--she insisted that I come back to the house--I wanted no part of that and was willing to go to a motel--she said she didn't have the time. When I saw her, she looked a bit worn and nowhere as nice as she did in the pics you posted or the ones on BGFE.

Nikki is definitely a beautiful girl, and--as I said, guys were raving about her personality and skills all over the other site. I was impressed with her sweetness and smile--a true gem--hope she has her life back and goes on to be happy and do good things.[/QUOTE]

I hear you about being wary of entering a SW's place. It is well to be cautious.

Nikki was gorgeous and a fun date and I wish her well.

[QUOTE=Chriseff]Definitely would like to date "Andrea"--but, as stated earlier--I don't want to go to any house--just don't trust a situation where I have so little control. In my early monger days (1991)--I was conned into going back to a house by a SW in Trenton. As we were undressing, her boyfriend and his friend Mr. Glock showed up--needless to say, I was robbed and had to beg for my life. Got the hell out of there real fast, thanking the Lord for allowing my ass to be saved.[/QUOTE]

We are shaped by our experiences. If that had happened to me I wouldn't go near any SW's house ever again either, considering that I had already used up whatever good luck chit that I ever had.

[QUOTE=Chriseff]Having trouble using the quote function on this site--had to improvise.[/QUOTE]

That happened to me once on here before also, and it further related to a problem of not being able to cut and paste in certain websites. It was a malware problem, so you might want to run a program that scans for and removes malware such as adaware or spybot, or something even more up to date and powerful.

I have noticed “Crazy Nicole” on the Ave for some time now. She is a fixture on the southern end of the stroll. She is certainly animated and full of energy and usually running around, so it is no surprise where her nickname originates.

There was a rumor shared to me by another usually trustworthy SW that Nicole had admitted to a date that she tested positive for HIV. I suppose we face that risk with any SW on the Ave. Many of them use needles, and that can be a huge risk if they share or use dirty needles. And who knows what a severely drug addicted SW is likely to do. But even a rumor has to make a reasonable monger be more wary than usual.

I approached Nicole. I will have to admit that she looked very good. She is tall (5 feet 9 or so), thin and has a pretty face. She is an elongated version of a perfect spinner. She is also very sweet and pleasant, quite the opposite of what I may have been expecting, given her nick.

I was very direct and honest with Nicole about the rumor I had heard. She denied that she was HIV positive. I expected that she would deny it whether she was or not. Who would admit that, even if they were, and had a habit to feed on the K from hooking? Having that information be known might really cut into business, even for someone as good looking as Nicole. She really seemed genuinely hurt by my comment, and said she had heard that from others as well, and was trying to get it corrected. She said she gets tested regularly for all STDs and was negative for everything. I asked if she had any paperwork which would prove that, and she said she did not. I told her that if she could get recent paperwork of her clean bill of health that I would be only happy to verify that I had witnessed it first hand.

I was still concerned that, if she really had been tested and was clean, why she didn’t have any paperwork. I would have thought that would be important to squash the rumor. She said she has many regulars, but I know better than to trust the word of a SW about anything. In a case like this I prefer to see it in writing. But she looked so good that I wanted to at least get her for a photo shoot. So, we went to her place. I already knew where she lived, and that it was safe, so I wasn’t concerned about that. She has a big mirror in her small room, and that made for some very interesting pics. I have to admit that she looks good in the pics and has a pretty face and a hot body.

After the photo session, I had her play with me and get me ready to jerk off in her face. She looked sexy and it didn’t take long for me to get hard. I took over stroking as I spoke filthy dirty to her: “Mmmmmm…. does Daddy’s little cum piggie want a hot squirt on her face?” and she would stick out her tongue and say in a cutesy voice in reply, “Squirt my face Daddy. Feed piggie your hot cum.” We kept it up like that back and forth. She has a perfect voice for dirty talking with just the right intonation and sincerity. I finally busted a hard nut that splattered from her stomach to her hair. I got a few pics but it was so scattered that you can only basically see a few glistening drops here and there.

After a little rest I was ready to go again and held her by her hair with one hand as I jerked off with the other. I had her spread her legs and play with herself and frig herself hard as I got myself ready for a second spray. That was really hot, almost as much fun as having her suck my cock or fuck me.

I know the odds of transmitting HIV orally is very small, and even less so when protected, but, hey, I am just a conservative guy. I would also definitely do Nicole in as many positions as possible, if she can demonstrate to my satisfaction that the HIV rumor is not true, because she is one hot little piece of ass, and a lot sweeter and more together than I would have guessed. Plus she is a terrific dirty talker and I love that. I know that not fucking her or allowing her to suck my cock may sound silly because literally any SW on the stroll could be HIV positive and there would be little way most of us would know. But when a rumor or any piece of information like that is staring you in the face, my preference is to err on the side of caution. I hope I can eliminate that suspicion in the future.

Ratings? Face and Body: 5 stars; Attitude: 5 stars; Overall: 5 stars for what it was; I bet this sexy minx would make a great suck and fuck and I look forward to sampling that when I feel comfortable that the risk is worth taking. YMMV

Cute, nice bod and a sexy poser!

Fingering herself, playing with me, close-ups, with cum sprayed on her face and body.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent] So, what you are telling us Boob Luvah is that Nikki is back in that location again, where Andrea and Rachel live?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if Nikki is back but I would say that Andrea and Kylie are the best people to tell that. :-) They also share the location with another girl but I forgot what the name is.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]Fingering herself, playing with me, close-ups, with cum sprayed on her face and body.[/QUOTE]As always, GREAT report Super E!

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]I hope you either didn't mean what you wrote, or you didn't understand the meaning of "hearsay," and perhaps meant "detail" instead?

Hearsay is information gathered by one person from another concerning some event, condition, or thing of which the first person had no direct experience.

That is why hearsay testimony is inadmissible in court. Only what a person experiences or hears first hand is admissible.[/QUOTE]

I was referring to your writing as hearsay, and I do know the meaning. Just as some refer to their stories as a dream/fantasy. Both being inadmissible. Since we don't pay for any acts, the wording doesn't really matter. Just know that I do like the details of the stories.

[QUOTE=Fbtom]I was referring to your writing as hearsay, and I do know the meaning. Just as some refer to their stories as a dream/fantasy. Both being inadmissible. Since we don't pay for any acts, the wording doesn't really matter. Just know that I do like the details of the stories.[/QUOTE]

Ahhhhhhh....as in tongue-in-cheek or with sardonism. This is the problem with mere words. We have no intonation or facial expression or body language to get the full meaning.

[QUOTE=Boob Luvah]I'm not sure if Nikki is back but I would say that Andrea and Kylie are the best people to tell that. :-) They also share the location with another girl but I forgot what the name is.[/QUOTE]

I am pretty sure her name is Amber, but I didn't get to see or meet her.....yet.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]I am pretty sure her name is Amber, but I didn't get to see or meet her.....yet.[/QUOTE]This is amber the other roomate [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90500[/url]
she's a little slimmer now that she has a pimp. If her service hasn't changed then I highly recommend amber

[QUOTE=Fbtom]Is this the same [url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=822425&postcount=184]Katie[/url]?

I had a bad experience with her today. Picked her up at K & Pacific about 9:30 A.M. She immediately wanted to have oral contact. I told her that I was on my way to see another girl, but just wanted to get her number. She then insisted on giving me head before I was to see the other girl saying that she is the best at it. Aggressively going after my pants while I'm driving. I just wanted to talk, but figured, what the hell, why not. She takes me to a parking lot and goes at it with a cbj. Then she asks for some money. Since I don't pay for acts and she volunteered to entertain me, I say, "I'll take you back to where I picked you up". Since I'm a nice guy, I give her a small token anyways. This is where it gets interesting. I go to drop her off and she holds the door open without getting out, demanding cash or she won't get out and will call the cops. At this point, knowing that this was a scam, I called her bluff. I got my phone out to take her picture and say to her sarcastically, "Now I can call the cops and show them the girl I forced to do things with" At first she tries to prevent me from taking her pic, but then says, "I don't care if you get my picture". Then I started to slowly drive away, with her still holding the door open. Seeing that I wasn't giving in, she angrily swipes at my dash damaging an item that I had mounted, finally getting out, sans cash. What a nut job! I agree with SuperE's comment... "She is the only date I ever had to be completely avoided."
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Yes, that is bad Katie. This biatch is to be completely avoided! She is a ripoff artist and an extortionist. The deal she tried to pull on you: holding the car door open and threatening to call the cops, was the exact same thing she tried to pull on me a year and a half ago. This must be her continual MO. It must be working on some dumb mongers (Pedey seems like someone who might surely fall for it) if she is still doing it. It doesn't appear that she has tried to pull that with the wrong monger, or she just might get the shit beat out of her. If she already has crossed the wrong monger, then she either didn't get a strong enough disincentive not to try it again, doesn't learn her lessons very well, or thinks it is worth the risk to keep trying it. My guess is that her extortion ploy is succeeding, and that's why she continues to do it.

The best disincentive of all is not to pick up this skank. She usually hangs in the vicinity of the 7-11 area. Tom, you found her at Pacific, which is farther than she normally ranges from Ontario. Whenever I see her I give her a big smile and wave like I am going to pick her up, and then I flip her the bird, just to remind her that there are some of us who know what she is all about.

I dated Nichole today. Found her at a corner near Lehigh. I've seen her there before, but she was gone before I could circle around. We went to her place, the same as in Super's photos. Lot's of old computers in that little room LOL. Nichole is a pretty girl. She's tall and thin as opposed to the little 'spinner' girls that I always feel like I'm going to crush.

Now, I really wish that I'd read Super's recent report on her [url]http://www.Usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php? P=965627&postcount=1180[/url] I would have been more careful and covered up for the BJ. Hopefully the rumors about her are false.

Overall her skills are good. She didn't tire during the BJ, and I finished up with her doggie. She was on the bed and I stood behind her. It was cool doing that in front of that huge mirror because I could see all the action from a different angle.

So a good date, now kind of soured by some doubt. I always clean myself up with anti-bacterial wipes and hand sanitizer, so hopefully that will be enough. If anyone can verify her STD test paperwork is good please let us all know. I'd like to date her again.

[QUOTE=Freaklikdat]This is amber the other roomate [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90500[/url]
she's a little slimmer now that she has a pimp. If her service hasn't changed then I highly recommend amber[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info and the pic. This is the way it's supposed to work on this forum as an exchange of USEFUL information. All you rick-throwers take notes.

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[QUOTE=Freaklikdat]This is amber the other roomate [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90500[/url]
she's a little slimmer now that she has a pimp. If her service hasn't changed then I highly recommend amber[/QUOTE]

That very well could have been the girl I saw during my visit with Rachel. Did she have a nice bottom?

Nikki, Amber or whom ever, I would have tried for a three way. (During my visit with Rachel, the blonde was occupied. I did ask Rachel if the blonde might be enticed to join us, later. Maybe was the reply I got.)

CookyJar

[QUOTE=CookyJar]That very well could have been the girl I saw during my visit with Rachel. Did she have a nice bottom?

Nikki, Amber or whom ever, I would have tried for a three way. (During my visit with Rachel, the blonde was occupied. I did ask Rachel if the blonde might be enticed to join us, later. Maybe was the reply I got.)[/QUOTE]

Cooky, you keep telling me you would have gone for a threesome, as if that was an option for me or even a desire at the time I dated Andrea...LOL.

Beside the fact that she already seemed to be otherwise occupied, and the upstairs was off limits, Rachel was the only other girl there at the time, not Amber or Nikki, and I had absolutely NO interest in Rachel either one-on-one or in a threesome.

Based upon Freak's comments, report and pic, and your observation that Amber had a nice bottom, I might at least give Amber a try in the future either one-on-one or in a threesome with Andrea.

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[QUOTE=Goofygoon]Most SWs are drug addicts that are so desperate that they are willing to do "anything" to get money for drugs. They don't reason and think like normal people. They are constantly in a desperate need of a fix. That is all they think about, how to get the next fix. They don't think with their head, they think with their crack pipe or syringe. They risk going to jail and getting beaten up every time they go on a date, especially with a stranger.[/QUOTE]

We all know that SWs aren't choir girls, but they aren't absolutely and universally as you described. The characteristics of some do not apply to most or all. Many are certainly drug addicted, but many are also good dates and provide good service; I know this first hand. Otherwise, no intelligent mongers would bother being on the Ave. You can't tar them all with the same bad brush as if they were all the same. Anyone who has had much experience on the K knows better.

[QUOTE=Goofygoon] All SWs have been brutally raped. All SWs have gone to jail. All SWs know someone who got raped, tortured, mutilated and killed. Many SWs have narrowly escaped that fate themselves by jumping out of moving cars, sometimes while bound and/or naked.[/QUOTE]

ALL is strong word and I know no such facts. Some may have experienced these things. I don't know any that have told me they were brutally raped, although such may have happened, and we know of some publicized serial rapists and murderers who have targeted SWs. Many SWs have gone to jail (not all). I have heard quite a few stories about SWs getting beaten up or robbed; that seems pretty common. I never heard of any jumping out of moving cars, let alone bound and/or naked. Maybe you just know and/or date different SWs than I do. I am not saying that a SW's life on the streets is easy. But your words are somewhat exaggerated and overboard if stretched to one size fits all.

[QUOTE=Goofygoon]I learned the above from the many SWs that I have come to know and from my personal experience with drug addiction.[/QUOTE]

As I said, we must know different SWs. I would be curious if any from whom you heard this stuff were SWs I have ever reported on as being good dates. Anything is possible, but I would find that surprising.

[QUOTE=Goofygoon]Having said that, some are worse than others but you can't trust any of them. Notwithstanding, some actually enjoy the sex and some fake it quite good. This is what we are looking for. Others don't think past their next fix and do whatever they have to, to get it. Once they think that they are going to get the money for a fix, they are mentally incapable of letting it go.[/QUOTE]

I don't think any reasonable monger "trusts" a SW. However, separating the good from the bad and the outright dangerous are points of information for which we look here. My personal experience is that most are good, a few are bad, and a very few are dangerous. Bad Katie is one in the dangerous category. But for you to say they are all alike is plain wrong and misleading.

[QUOTE=Goofygoon]This happens to me when I pick up a girl and then, after looking at her close up and talking to her, I am no longer interested. They usually won't get out of the car unless I give them money. If I don't they cause quite a commotion. One girl threw a bottle at my car and broke a side window even after I gave her $20 to get out. Once a girl took my car keys and threw them in tall grass. Once a girl broke my rear-view mirror right off of windshield.

I usually keep 5 or 10 dollars in a seperate pocket to give to girls that I want to get rid of. It usually works, but not always, sometimes they demand more. The best way to get rid of them is to take them to a police station or to stop a passing cop car. Usually they will get out when they see that you are serious. However, sometimes they won't and I actually get out and talk to the cop. This is risky because the cop can arrest us both, but sometimes I don't care because I am so mad. Whatever you do, don't go to a cop if you already had sex, they will arrest you. I tell the cop the truth. I say that the girl jumped in my car and propositioned me and when I refused, she wouldn't get out unless I gave her money. The cop asks what I was doing in this neighborhood and I tell him what he already knows. I was looking at the girls. The cop usually gives me a lecture about AIDS and set-ups and then let me and the girl go. If I did not make a deal to exchange money for sex, there is no crime. Then I have to go home or to another track.[/QUOTE]

In many years of mongering I have never experienced any of the problems you mentioned. Perhaps my street radar works pretty well or maybe I have just been cautious or lucky. ONCE I was threatened with extortion, and a potentially dangerous situation, and that was with bad Katie. I dispatched that situation with a minimum of hassle, without physical harm to me or my vehicle and without surrendering as much as a nickel to get rid of the problem.

But for you to imply that these situations are just something we have to live with, as if it they are simply unavoidable and inevitable and part of the territory, and not even worth identifying and reporting? I am just not buying it.

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[QUOTE=Supereloquent]Yes, let's get back to mongering rather than wild goose chases to the suburbs carrying drugs because of a CL ad from some anonymous chickie. Sheesh! And you are standing behind Pedey on this one? You apparently don't care to pick your battles very wisely. What he did was boneheaded and you are even more boneheaded for taking his back on it.

Who rattled your chain, anyway? Are you Pedey's nursemaid? Does he suck your tit? I bet he does. Maybe he sucks something else. Maybe you guys take turns...LOL. However, that would make sense: the malcontent nursing the imbecile, once again. This isn't your fight, dummie, or did someone piss in your Cheerios this morning? You seem to have an uncontrollable urge to put your 2 cents in where it was not requested, just to spout off more obvious green-eyed drivel.

Take your own advice ass-wipe. Try posting something which has useful information for a change.[/QUOTE]In the course of less than a week, you've thrust yourself in the middle of multiple threads and annoyed and pissed off multiple people by presuming to give input and advise when instead it was plain that it was another attempt to grandstand and bring attention to yourself. When someone then presents an argument for which you don't have an intelligent reply, you then begin the same tired ad hominem attacks about their intelligence, supposed lack of contribution to the forum, or their sexual orientation. It's funny that you and Mad Monger have this need to question other monger's sexuality. Might it perhaps be an effort to overcompensate for something that you haven't come to terms with? And of all things you then try to throw back at them, you decide to focus on their spelling? WTF?

Pedey and I have exchanged notes/numbers on a number of SWs, and so he's got credibility with me. If you want to post reports, exchange info, numbers, etc. That's what I thought we were here to do. Instead, you have to put in your 2 cents on other threads in a way that then devolves an otherwise interesting topic into a flame war. After a while, it just gets frigging annoying to continuously read your same drama, over and over and over again. If you're so insecure that you always have to blame it on other's supposed jealousy, that's your loss. Most of us here have known about the stroll and this forum for a while before you had started posting, and it's existed for many years before that. Only a fool would think that a single poster is somehow so important that our mongering experience would have changed significantly with our without them.

My guess is you'll never learn.

AC

[QUOTE=Acro782]If you want to post reports, exchange info, numbers, etc. That's what I thought we were here to do.[/QUOTE]You should pay closer attention. I am not looking for an "attaboy," but the following are just the facts in reply to your admonition that I should supply reports and exchange information. In the past year and a half I have posted MANY more than half of all the reports regarding new SWs on the K, upon whom there were no previous reports. I have also posted many more than half the pics of SWs on the K (the only reason this isn't even higher is that Cooky is and always has been a substantial pic contributor; throw in Freak and a few others and you basically have 95 plus % of the pic sharing happening on the Philly board). In the past 18 months I have posted MORE than 4 times as many pics as were posted by everyone else in the ENTIRE Philly Streetwalker Photo Thread during the past 3 and a half years!

If that isn't "posting (SW) reports" and "exchanging (SW) information," then I don't know what is.

WHY do I do this? Sometimes I seriously wonder, when I get gratuitous rocks thrown at me, and encounter guys like you with bugs up their butts about me for who knows what reason. But, as sure as God made little green apples, a malcontent complainer like you will want to have his rock-throwing cake and eat it too. Either you are bitching about the "lack" of my informational reporting (which is ludicrous on its face), or about the supposed motivations behind it. The bottom line is that you just want to carp and criticize. You have absolutely no interest in furthering the purposes of this forum. That is the sad truth of your ongoing and fault-finding yammering.

You accuse me of always posting "diatribes?" That is not my typical MO by a long shot, as opposed to you, where it appears to be your preference, especially with regard to me. You threw the first rock, and continued to throw them. I was merely responding. You just don't seem to ever want to stop. C'est la vie. With regard to the recent exchange over the Aramingo Wawa, which you referenced?: Anyone with half a brain who has read my stuff can see that was a tongue-in-cheek, uncharacteristic rock throwing role play on my part. I was pretending to be guys like you and Pedey to demonstrate how easy it was to be a rock-throwing asshole rather than contributing useful intel. Get it? Even those involved have realized that now. They were and are supporters of mine, by and large, and everything is cool. Only you seem intent on fanning the flames of a dead fire, or using that as "proof" that I am somehow a typical flamer on here. But, then again, you would.

I obviously post a great deal of useful information, both in the form of SW reports and pics. However, to what extent have YOU posted SW reports and exchanged useful information in here? There are damn few of your "reports" in this forum, and most of the ones that are here are tirades against me, which have no beneficial intel whatsoever. I am not the one who needs a lecture from you regarding the nature, amount and value of my contributions to this forum; that is an instruction which might best be reversed.

This title sounds like something one may have written as an essay in 5th grade, doesn't it? However, if I had written this in the 5th grade, there would have been quite a few eyebrows raised, and probably much sterner reactions than that.

I took the day off yesterday and went to AC early in the morning to relax and do some gambling. I only and always play one game, and that is craps: the game with the best odds for the gambler. I could explain this in detail, but it is beside the point of my story. I played all morning and was up a lot: about 10 grand. I have been up a lot more than that, but 10 grand in your pocket that you didn’t already have to start the day is a nice feeling (on the down side, I limit my losses and just quit, walk on the boardwalk, watch the ocean, have a nice meal, see a show, whatever; because luck seems to run in streaks both good and bad; I let the good luck run, and cut the bad luck off at some limit; there is always tomorrow; this is a gambling strategy which has served me well over the years). I was tempted to keep playing with 'their' money, but it takes some discipline to quit when you are ahead, just like it does when you are behind. Otherwise you always leave a loser.

I was driving up the AC expressway, and then I-76, and soon the towers of the Walt Whitman were in view. A day which had started gloomy and chilly was now warm and sunny. I was in a very good mood, considering both my good luck at the craps table, and the sunny, balmy weather, and just then I had an inspiration: to take a detour up Broadway. I have mongered for a long time but never on Broadway in Camden. It wasn't like I didn't know about it. It was just a combination of things which had conspired against my going there over the years: 1. Convenience: Yes, it is just across the bridge, but the K is much closer to me. So the K has been a matter of simple convenience. 2. Satisfaction: The K is like going to your favorite restaurant, even when you know there are many good restaurants around. There is plenty of variety on the menu. You know the food is good, and what you like, and what to avoid. The K is even better than your favorite restaurant because the menu is constantly changing to add new and delicious treats to your liking. So why go elsewhere? 3. The Unknown: I have chuckled to myself when a monger says the K is a place too scary to be. I am not saying the K is a safe place, or that you don't need to be aware and keep up your guard. But I have never had a dangerous incident or anything close to it. Maybe I am comfortable on the K because I have been here a LOT, and I feel like I am a fish in water. I feel at home on the Ave to some degree. However, I am also aware, just like a fish, that there are sharks about, and I need to keep my eyes open. Just because I have never been bitten or devoured doesn't mean the potential is not there. Regarding the unknown and Broadway?: I had never been there but I was picturing a scene out of the South Bronx or South Chicago, where even armed police would feel unsafe in daylight. I also pictured mostly skank ho druggies, for whom trolling would not be worth the effort or the risk. I also pictured a web of entrapment: LE decoys, unmarked vice and a high and visible and hassling LE presence (especially for some white dude with PA plates). Maybe I hit Broadway on an unusual day, but most of my assumptions appeared to have been unfounded.

Broadway is a wide street, with few encroaching sight impediments on either side, and you can see very clearly on both sides for a long way ahead and behind. It is quite unlike the narrow and crowded K in that regard. It isn't the bombed out and dangerous gang hell that I pictured. It is a typically run-down inner-city main street, no worse than many and much better than I had anticipated. I was expecting to see unmarked LE on my ass as soon as I started driving up Broadway, but that never happened. Unlike the K, there is very little traffic, and an out-of-state plate scoping out the area would be easy to spot if one were so inclined. I didn't see any evidence of that except for one situation I suspected of being a sting, which I will mention later.

Some other nice features of Broadway: 1. The vicinity isn’t riddled with triangular and impossible one-way streets like the K, where it can take you forever to circle the block for a second look or a pick-up. 2. There seem to be many good secluded areas for an uninterrupted car date, for those of you who prefer that; I do every now and then. 3. There are some good and safer possibilities for eating establishments on the northern end of the stroll close to the Ben Franklin. 4. The “going rate” (assuming I were going to pay for pussy, which I do not; this information is for those of you illegal thugs who do) appears to “start” lower and be more negotiable in Camden than on the K.

The best surprise of all was the selection of good looking honeys on Broadway. There were a few skank hos that looked like they had just rolled out of a dumpster, and I wouldn’t have picked up if they paid ME triple the going rate. But that seemed to be the exception and not the rule. I found 2 good dates, and I saw a number of other good looking SWs worth trying as well. I took my dates for multiple-cup, long indoor sessions at a nearby notel. It was a lot closer to Broadway than the Neshaminy Inn or the airport motels or even the Carlyle are to the K. Reports and pics will be forthcoming.

I mentioned one possible sting operation I thought I saw on Broadway. I could be all wet, but I tend to avoid even the whiff of a potential problem. There was a BSW at about mid-point in the stroll, pretty and well dressed, wearing a nice skirt and black stockings, sitting on a stoop with her legs crossed and showing some thigh, and making obvious gestures to passing cars. It seemed out of place, and too good to be true. Also, there was a black SUV nearby, with heavy window tinting, containing 2 guys, parked halfway down the street. The whole thing just looked too suspicious. So, I smiled at her, but passed on the opportunity. Maybe I was being silly, but, hey, I am a cautious guy.

I feel like I have discovered a new restaurant that serves meals just as good, if not better and cheaper, than my old favorite. I am sure I will be spending a lot more time sampling the menu on the other side of the river.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]I feel like I have discovered a new restaurant that serves meals just as good, if not better and cheaper, than my old favorite. I am sure I will be spending a lot more time sampling the menu on the other side of the river.[/QUOTE]Looking forward to those pics & reviews SuperE, I've been a camden lover since last summer:) Lots of good fines over there. Don't be a stranger to the South jersey forum cause some mongers over there give great intel on the girls of broadway & nearby motels

[QUOTE=Freaklikdat]This is amber the other roomate [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=90500[/url]
she's a little slimmer now that she has a pimp. If her service hasn't changed then I highly recommend amber[/QUOTE]Michelle is part of the group. I don't think she lives there but she can bring her dates. Just like Amber, Michelle lost weight the last time I spoted her in K.

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[QUOTE=Boob Luvah]Michelle is part of the group. I don't think she lives there but she can bring her dates. Just like Amber, Michelle lost weight the last time I spoted her in K.

[url]http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=91785[/url][/QUOTE]

This is the same Michelle that I once reported on, who ripped me off to cop before a date, and about whom Street Steve reported as being a thief and trying to fire up a stem in his car:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=935821&postcount=2566[/url]

Apparently she can be both good and bad, so be forewarned about the possible bad.