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[QUOTE=Cheech1;2052243]They might try something like that with those scenarios. Even more likely, though is that they would try to use the info and maybe the girl or another girl to entrap you into a situation where they could create some serious problems. That's what you really have to be worried about. Even going into a room with a provider, if they tried to arrest me for that I would immediately have my lawyers file a lawsuit alleging violation of my constitutional right of free assembly. I would make myself such a pain in the ass they would drop everything just to try to make me go away.

Cheech.[/QUOTE]I think what will happen eventually is a senior with no job or SO to worry about that is retired and enjoys the hobby (thanks to the blue pill) will take on these thugs with help from the ACLU (not big fan of them but oh well). These violations of freedom could be slowly dealt with in this victimless crime.

[QUOTE=SecretAgent007;2049940]In almost every jurisdiction, you should be able to find an ex-prosecutor or ex-assistant prosecutor who is in private practice. That is who I would seriously consider interviewing and potentially hiring if I needed an attorney in a criminal matter for several reasons including, but not limited to: (1) he / she would already know how the local Prosecutor's Office operates; (2) he / she should already know the prosecutor and assistant prosecutors in that office, as well as all or nearly all of the local judges (so they already have established credibility in most instances); and (3) who they know (as well as who they blow) is very important in these types of situations, IMHO.

And I also think it is very prudent to already have an attorney "on-board" and in your corner before any actual need arises!

--SA007.[/QUOTE]My experience has been that a 24/7/365 atty on retainer starts at 12,000 year. That gives you so much leverage against the quasi-legal machinations of the unfortunate misguided popo who otherwise are doing a great job.

[QUOTE=Cheech1;2052243]They might try something like that with those scenarios. Even more likely, though is that they would try to use the info and maybe the girl or another girl to entrap you into a situation where they could create some serious problems. That's what you really have to be worried about. Even going into a room with a provider, if they tried to arrest me for that I would immediately have my lawyers file a lawsuit alleging violation of my constitutional right of free assembly. I would make myself such a pain in the ass they would drop everything just to try to make me go away.

Cheech.[/QUOTE]I hope you never have to defend those words or act on that intention Cheech. I would suppose that you aren't married or have a S / O either; or a job that you could be released from over some presumed morals clause.? After all, for those that do have one or the other, the biggest downside of an arrest is not the conviction but the arrest and the publicity and fallout that goes along with such an act. Potential job and family implications that begin immediately following such an event. What good would it do the guy who loses his job and / or family over such an arrest to later file a suit to get the action dropped? I guess we are looking at this differently.

Again, the popo doesn't have to be right, they rely on the legal system to protect them, and it does it well. Either they have evidence or they don't. If they do and it is a slam dunk case maybe they prosecute toward a conviction. If evidence is messy or even a stretch the system relies on the Def (or their legal Counsel) to be motivated to cut a deal. Does your lawyer give two shits about the evidence or lack thereof, not really. The more evidence the more fee that they chg you. The less evidence then they tell you that you can do x, why, z (puffed representation) to the county or popo offc; again more fees. What do most people want when they get mixed up in something like that; they want it dropped and over with. BUT, if you happen to be the poor slob with the s / o or job that is affected, then what? Most cases like this either get reduced, dropped or expunged; rarely a conviction. What the popo and system relies on is that word gets around that x number of johns or ladies got busted. That publicity (word travels fast) does more for them than a 100 man stake out. Enuf said on it for me. Good luck.

Gents, I do have to admit that I don't have a S.O. at the moment, haven't had one for a long time for various reasons. So I don't have to worry about that. Also, I work in the family business, no one is going to fire me for bad publicity. In fact, I have done time, I'm what they call "hardened." I'm not afraid of jail or prison. So I can take the positions I take. I feel for those of you who have those problems, I was at one time, in your shoes, married, kids, house, mortgage, worked for a family fraternal, all kinds of state licenses. It would have been a problem then. So now if I run into trouble I'm the point of the sword.

Cheech.

[QUOTE=Cheech1;2052243] Even going into a room with a provider, if they tried to arrest me for that I would immediately have my lawyers file a lawsuit alleging violation of my constitutional right of free assembly. I would make myself such a pain in the ass they would drop everything just to try to make me go away. Cheech.[/QUOTE]It doesn't work that way.

I give a shout out to all the seasoned posters on here lending their opinion, personal beliefs on this subject. Any time I start seeing usernames with larger post counts it's certainly a topic that's gained the attention of those who enjoy the fringe.

I'm just new to the 'times' today whereby I'm dealing with cells, cameras, digital age not experienced before. My cell phone back then was a radioactive brick that stayed attached in the vehicle. 2 years and learning the values but they are certainly appreciated, responses to my statements.

Flying leaps and dares have their place in the hobby. I'm going to say I've done it after getting restless in an endless search trying to find intel before satisfying the craving.

Those statements are definitely true about Econolodge. A certain provider is always trying to get me to meet her there and it's not going to happen.

Here's a statement I hope this sinks to everyone in producing a thought process into print:

I'm sure a good percentage that never manage to voice an opinion can be a very big part of the traffic that makes it to a provider. RemmyLynn, someone I've wanted to dream of has almost a cult following with the great reviews, very descript reviews at that.

As much as I wanted to dream that dream, I'm no fool to know that the activity swell 'here' can magnify even larger outside these walls to those UTR. Traffic. That in my opinion builds a fear that I'm not willing to get into because it's like a good looking woman broke down on the side of the road waving her bra wanting help. It simply draws too much attention.

Just my opinion. I just think activity spawns danger ten fold and as much as I like the rose garden, you'll find me hanging out in the tulips, even dandelion patches just to keep all bee stings to a minimum.

[QUOTE=NKY747;2052820]I give a shout out to all the seasoned posters on here lending their opinion, personal beliefs on this subject. Any time I start seeing usernames with larger post counts it's certainly a topic that's gained the attention of those who enjoy the fringe.

I'm just new to the 'times' today whereby I'm dealing with cells, cameras, digital age not experienced before. My cell phone back then was a radioactive brick that stayed attached in the vehicle. 2 years and learning the values but they are certainly appreciated, responses to my statements.

Flying leaps and dares have their place in the hobby. I'm going to say I've done it after getting restless in an endless search trying to find intel before satisfying the craving.

Those statements are definitely true about Econolodge. A certain provider is always trying to get me to meet her there and it's not going to happen.

Here's a statement I hope this sinks to everyone in producing a thought process into print:

I'm sure a good percentage that never manage to voice an opinion can be a very big part of the traffic that makes it to a provider. RemmyLynn, someone I've wanted to dream of has almost a cult following with the great reviews, very descript reviews at that.

As much as I wanted to dream that dream, I'm no fool to know that the activity swell 'here' can magnify even larger outside these walls to those UTR. Traffic. That in my opinion builds a fear that I'm not willing to get into because it's like a good looking woman broke down on the side of the road waving her bra wanting help. It simply draws too much attention.

Just my opinion. I just think activity spawns danger ten fold and as much as I like the rose garden, you'll find me hanging out in the tulips, even dandelion patches just to keep all bee stings to a minimum.[/QUOTE]As a kid, I got more bee stings from running through the dandelion filled grass. I never got stung running past the rose bushes. Just sayin.

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;2053080]As a kid, I got more bee stings from running through the dandelion filled grass. I never got stung running past the rose bushes. Just sayin.[/QUOTE] walk without shoes, know your territory. You didn't mention the many thorns found in the roses.

See below. Play safe.

[URL]http://m.wlwt.com/news/city-to-block-parts-of-mcmicken-st-to-fight-prostitution/25716714[/URL]

I'd recommend all ya make this site private or verify your profile with a phone number caus3 it looks like this site is being monitored.

[blue]That's nothing new, we appreciate all free publicity. The guys that come here know to take care of themselves.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Captspaulding;2085091]I'd recommend all ya make this site private or verify your profile with a phone number caus3 it looks like this site is being monitored.

[blue]That's nothing new, we appreciate all free publicity. The guys that come here know to take care of themselves.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]First of all the government has no clue. She said 90 percent of all women in the trade are pimped. Yes there is a high number but not that high. If a girl is truly pimped I will not see her, I know heidi is. She called him her boss. Legalize and then the trade will go main stream, and be safer. She is only worried about her re election, typical politician.

The idiots who run Cincinnati have to know that setting up barricades isn't going to get rid of the prostitution situation. The paper and radio and TV stations keep reporting that residents down where the cops are putting barricades are getting pissed off because it's creating a logjam of streetwalkers in one of those neighborhoods. It's in an area where a lot of families with kids live. Get smart, Cincy idiots. Prostitution will never go away. You keep saying the drug problem is enhanced by prostitution. If you want to get rid of the drugs, like you keep saying you do, catch the dealers and give them REAL prison sentences like they do in Indiana. A friend of mine knew a heroine dealer in Dayton who got busted by the feds back in 2006, and guess what. He was out in two years because he ratted out his buddies. Catch the dealers and don't make deals with them. Put them away for 10 years on the FIRST offense and then they will learn.

[URL]http://www.fox19.com/story/25396472/cincinnati-installs-prostitution-barricades[/URL]

BFDeal.

Just saw this ill be staying away.

[URL]http://www.wlwt.com/news/nky-man-indicted-in-federal-human-trafficking-case/26096538[/URL]

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness;2100037]Just saw this ill be staying away.

[URL]http://www.wlwt.com/news/nky-man-indicted-in-federal-human-trafficking-case/26096538[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw an ad recently, looking for a driver, I thought, hmmm, easy money, sexy women, why not?

After reading this, NO WAY.

[QUOTE=Deadbeat;2100146]I saw an ad recently, looking for a driver, I thought, hmmm, easy money, sexy women, why not?

After reading this, NO WAY.[/QUOTE]Be careful guys, I beleive they were some of the girls here involved in this also. Be careful there are LEO's amongst us too.

You may have been with a couple of these girls and not known, there are a couple that have dispearred from here since this has come about.