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J's
[QUOTE=Bbbuddy;3692930]So there's about about 8 guys and 8 dancers. This one angela comes up and she has a nice ass even though she looks a little tough in the face. She asks if I'm getting dances and I said yeah in a little bit. So about 10 minutes and I say you want to go do one? That's when she says, oh by the way my dances are $30 . Well on principle I refuse since many ladies here give a hell of a dance for $20. So instead of getting a few $20 dances she walks around making no money. Pretty stupid if you ask me.[/QUOTE]That's crazy on her part. I haven't been there in a month or so, but I've always had girls that would offer 2 for $30 or 3 for $40. All I've had to do was turn them down a time or two.
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Economics
[QUOTE=Jc2490;3693732]That's crazy on her part. I haven't been there in a month or so, but I've always had girls that would offer 2 for $30 or 3 for $40. All I've had to do was turn them down a time or two.[/QUOTE]They're all letting egos run the show. Back in the 90's, they'd dance for 5. The girls were dancing non-stop. At 5-10 per song, they'd probably be making money every minute. I was recently at Temptations in Gary during an afternoon. The ladies were doing songs for 5 per song. Nobody turned them down. It was easy to say "keep going". Within a half hour I spent 40 plus tipped her an extra 10. Instead, the girls on Mannheim hold out for 20,30, or even 40 per song. At the end of the day, a dancer doing 5-10 ea. Will likely have more to show for it out of the sheer volume. If just one of the bars (J's, Bobby's, etc.) would do a 5 per dance day as an experiment, they could pack the place. As long as they could get the word out, I think it would be win-win. More dances, more patrons, more drinks sold. They'd probably have to cut the dancers fee but in the long run, they'd come out ahead. If it didn't succeed, what's to lose, it's only for 1 day. The problem is the dancers believing they are worth more & would rather sit at the bar & let their asses grow instead of settling for less than they feel they are worth. Just my 2 cents.
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Discounted
[QUOTE=MayorQuimby;3694723]They're all letting egos run the show. Back in the 90's, they'd dance for 5. The girls were dancing non-stop. At 5-10 per song, they'd probably be making money every minute. I was recently at Temptations in Gary during an afternoon. The ladies were doing songs for 5 per song. Nobody turned them down. It was easy to say "keep going". Within a half hour I spent 40 plus tipped her an extra 10. Instead, the girls on Mannheim hold out for 20,30, or even 40 per song. At the end of the day, a dancer doing 5-10 ea. Will likely have more to show for it out of the sheer volume. If just one of the bars (J's, Bobby's, etc.) would do a 5 per dance day as an experiment, they could pack the place. As long as they could get the word out, I think it would be win-win. More dances, more patrons, more drinks sold. They'd probably have to cut the dancers fee but in the long run, they'd come out ahead. If it didn't succeed, what's to lose, it's only for 1 day. The problem is the dancers believing they are worth more & would rather sit at the bar & let their asses grow instead of settling for less than they feel they are worth. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]We were just talking about this on 2 snowny nights when only 2 dancers came in. The discussion was more like cutting show fee on Sundays and Mondays but cutting dance fee would probably bring in more guys. My point on Angela charging $30 is she didn't even give a little preview at the table to get me interested. When I compared to other dancers who come over and talk for awhile and get me "up" for the dance I'm not as into the straight forward approach. I'm also not paying $30 to find out if it will be a satisfying time when I know with others for $20 it's absolutely is.
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Preview
[QUOTE=Bbbuddy;3694872]We were just talking about this on 2 snowny nights when only 2 dancers came in. The discussion was more like cutting show fee on Sundays and Mondays but cutting dance fee would probably bring in more guys. My point on Angela charging $30 is she didn't even give a little preview at the table to get me interested. When I compared to other dancers who come over and talk for awhile and get me "up" for the dance I'm not as into the straight forward approach. I'm also not paying $30 to find out if it will be a satisfying time when I know with others for $20 it's absolutely is.[/QUOTE]I have been duped into a dance by getting a great preview while sitting at the bar, only to find out that the dance actually sucked. I always feel weird asking the dancer how much she requests for a dance, never go more than two for thirty.
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[QUOTE=Bbbuddy;3694872]We were just talking about this on 2 snowny nights when only 2 dancers came in. The discussion was more like cutting show fee on Sundays and Mondays but cutting dance fee would probably bring in more guys. My point on Angela charging $30 is she didn't even give a little preview at the table to get me interested. When I compared to other dancers who come over and talk for awhile and get me "up" for the dance I'm not as into the straight forward approach. I'm also not paying $30 to find out if it will be a satisfying time when I know with others for $20 it's absolutely is.[/QUOTE]A lot of the girls will even give you a flat rate just to get you off. Good deal if you have whiskey dick.
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Angela
[QUOTE=SouthSideRed;3695400]I have been duped into a dance by getting a great preview while sitting at the bar, only to find out that the dance actually sucked. I always feel weird asking the dancer how much she requests for a dance, never go more than two for thirty.[/QUOTE]Yeah the older angela that wears the gloves does that. Then you go to back and it's two pricesand $30 if you want maximum contact.
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Gloves?
[QUOTE=Bbbuddy;3697850]Yeah the older angela that wears the gloves does that. Then you go to back and it's two pricesand $30 if you want maximum contact.[/QUOTE]Does she wear dressy gloves, or just put on a glove when she grabs your junk?
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Angie, with the gloves
[QUOTE=Jc2490;3698083]Does she wear dressy gloves, or just put on a glove when she grabs your junk?[/QUOTE]The formal kind of gloves that a lady keeps on with an elegant sort of outfit. Some kind of smooth material, usually to the elbow. That's been her thing for the 15+ years that I've seen her around.
Probably a good thing. I've gotten a dance from her without the gloves, and she has some of the roughest hands on a woman that I've even felt. Like 450 grit.
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[QUOTE=JasperMalloy;3698991]The formal kind of gloves that a lady keeps on with an elegant sort of outfit. Some kind of smooth material, usually to the elbow. That's been her thing for the 15+ years that I've seen her around.
Probably a good thing. I've gotten a dance from her without the gloves, and she has some of the roughest hands on a woman that I've even felt. Like 450 grit.[/QUOTE]HAHA! I forgot all about her.
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Angela
Are you guys referring to the dark-haired, heavier Angela who has worked at Bobby's, Carl's and Playpen and it seems like she has been around forever?
I remember getting dances from her at the old Carl's about 15 years ago and she was likely coked up as she gave me 2 dances then asked for $60. I remember her wearing the black gloves that you're referring to so it probably is the same one. I'm guessing she has to be pushing 50 by now.
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[QUOTE=Scott40;3699781]Are you guys referring to the dark-haired, heavier Angela who has worked at Bobby's, Carl's and Playpen and it seems like she has been around forever?
I remember getting dances from her at the old Carl's about 15 years ago and she was likely coked up as she gave me 2 dances then asked for $60. I remember her wearing the black gloves that you're referring to so it probably is the same one. I'm guessing she has to be pushing 50 by now.[/QUOTE]This is the one I refer to, yes. Though if she's pushing 50, she's probably pushing it from the other side.
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Angie
[QUOTE=Scott40;3699781]Are you guys referring to the dark-haired, heavier Angela who has worked at Bobby's, Carl's and Playpen and it seems like she has been around forever?
I remember getting dances from her at the old Carl's about 15 years ago and she was likely coked up as she gave me 2 dances then asked for $60. I remember her wearing the black gloves that you're referring to so it probably is the same one. I'm guessing she has to be pushing 50 by now.[/QUOTE]She has been around for close to 20 years. I remember her from when I was a regular in the Mannheim Rd scene in the late 90's. She has become very clingy now. If you get dances from her or even just buy her a drink, she stakes a claim on you so to speak. She'll discourage other girls from you sort of like you're her client. She can be very pushy at times. I am particularly amused when you say no to a dance with her & she says she'll check on you later, then comes back 2-3 minutes later & asks if you're ready now.
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Angie
[QUOTE=MayorQuimby;3700633]She has been around for close to 20 years. I remember her from when I was a regular in the Mannheim Rd scene in the late 90's. She has become very clingy now. If you get dances from her or even just buy her a drink, she stakes a claim on you so to speak. She'll discourage other girls from you sort of like you're her client. She can be very pushy at times. I am particularly amused when you say no to a dance with her & she says she'll check on you later, then comes back 2-3 minutes later & asks if you're ready now.[/QUOTE]She always reminded me of Elvira, due to all the black outfits she wears. At Bobby's it was ten bucks a dance years ago, but there is no way she demands thirty a dance. I have run into dancers who monitor who else you get dances from at other bars and then complain that you got more dances from the other girl or accuse of cheating on them.
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Carl's?
I stop into J's and Bobbys the other day. Had and ok time at each place but Bobbys seemed to have more girls working. Which place has the best looking girls? I may go to Carl's to check it out.
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Girls
[QUOTE=Boo1969;3711664]I stop into J's and Bobbys the other day. Had and ok time at each place but Bobbys seemed to have more girls working. Which place has the best looking girls? I may go to Carl's to check it out.[/QUOTE]It all depends on what you're looking for. Carl's and Bobby's might tend to have some cuter girls, but you will probably get more mileage from the girls at J's.