Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=TastyCrouton;5749060]Okay so thought I'd try going for a massage, settled on KC. I am thoroughly confused by the experience. I feel like I did everything right. Left the towel low while waiting for the masseuse to come in, gently touched her legs when it was appropriate, let her know what felt good she left me completely uncovered 90% of the time.

Massage was great, then she climbed in the table and walked on top of my back and that was an experience in itself. Lots heavy sensual touching on her part she was all up on my ass and around my junk. I felt like a HE was a sure thing but the timer went off and she asked if I wanted to extend.

I assumed this was my opportunity to show how much I was willing to tip, I've read between 40-60, so I figured I'd play it safe and show 50 $. She only wanted to extend the massage time though? I didn't have a lot of time so I said I can stay for another 15 and she took the 15 $ for the extra time. After that nothing?

So did I miss something? I'm not too concerned because I did enjoy the massage and it was still cheaper than an actual spa even with a tip at the end. I'm planning on returning any tips?[/QUOTE]Been a while since I've been to KC but I had a similar experience. I was a little crude and said I was still feeling stiff and pointed to the upper inner thigh area and she said oh okay, $60.

[QUOTE=StarTech23;5750290]Been a while since I've been to KC but I had a similar experience. I was a little crude and said I was still feeling stiff and pointed to the upper inner thigh area and she said oh okay, $60.[/QUOTE]Sounds like your initial steps were good and well played!

Yeah, not every girl is blatant about extras: got to ask for what you want. I suspect most girls will "get it" and little discussion is needed. But for a girl who is shy, scared of LE or just having a bad day, customer might need to be a slight bit more explicit about "other duties as assigned" for the employee. If you are concerned room is bugged for sound, one can use hand gestures.

One can also just leave the house fee and "tip" on the nearby table and girl will get the message. That usually works better when the tip is a Ben and a prophylactic is laying there too.

[QUOTE=CornLord;5748311]Saya is in her early 30's or so, very cute, I'd say at least 7. 5-8. Maybe B size up top, firm body with a little bit of softness where it matters. Trimmed but not unshaven. Great smile. She's very sweet, treat her nice and she'll do FS for a Benjamin over house fee. Treat her nice regardless, she's a doll.[/QUOTE]I did a 30 min session for all in of 180.

[QUOTE=PhillyDiscreet;5752019]I did a 30 min session for all in of 180.[/QUOTE]I would think that's the going rate for 60 minutes.

[QUOTE=Gator1970;5752105]I would think that's the going rate for 60 minutes.[/QUOTE]50 for 30 min + 130 for two rounds of BBFS is a good deal in my book.

[QUOTE=Gator1970;5752105]I would think that's the going rate for 60 minutes.[/QUOTE]House fee is. 5 for 30, . 6 for 60--haven't tested yet but my inclination is that Saya would not up charge for the full hour. Even one of the other girls was like "Saya is nuts. " Hah.

[QUOTE=CornLord;5756549]House fee is. 5 for 30, . 6 for 60--haven't tested yet but my inclination is that Saya would not up charge for the full hour. Even one of the other girls was like "Saya is nuts. " Hah.[/QUOTE]How many ladies does BW staff? I want a backup plan if this Saya is booked when I visit.

[QUOTE=Antipooh;5770466]Would like to try an AMP, but always feels like those places are on the radar of Uncle LEO, so I' m skeert. [b]Feel like I need a mentor.[/b]

I can tell you that I'm certainly not paying those prices. Did throw down a little more to see Ivy a coupla times, but the return was excellent, and she's not close to some of these quote we're seeing now.[/QUOTE]Glad you asked as this is the place to ask "how to" questions! Plenty of experts around here can help "mentor" you.

OK, so it has been a while since anyone has posted a "how to" on AMP visits, so I'll give my version and hopefully others (LuvARub+ others?) will add their spin or refinements.

I guess one CAN be wary of a AMP visit because of [I][u]potential[/u][/I] LE activity, but IF one conducts themself properly they can manage the risk down VERY low. This is a delicate little dance.

First and most important rule is [b]NEVER [u]EVER[/u] talk about sex for money![/b] Never say, "Can you do a blow job for $60"! You are going to an AMP for a body rub. That's it!

So you go to a place, do your homework first. Look for reviews from 3 months ago and get some names of the girls that were around then, but gone now. Point of this is that IF the mamasan asks you the key question, "Have you been here before?" You can say, "Yes, I saw _____". This puts the situation at ease. That use to be the key 'pass phrase" at the old Callowhill Relaxation Station years ago.

So some places you call ahead before showing up, others you just show up. Go to the door, knock or ring the bell and someone lets you in. Now BE COOL! You act all nervous, you'll make them nervous. Might be asked how long you want: rates are generally 40 for 30-minutes and 60 for 60-minutes. This "fee for time" is known as the [b]"House fee" - the fee for the rub.[/b] IF you want extras usually the 60-min rub is what you want to ask for. Usually you pay Mamasan the "house fee" up front. Have had house fee collected in the room by the girl at some places. Some places where things are assumed the house fee and "tip" are collected up front. Then you will be shown to a room or cubical and asked to get comfortable.

Anyway a request to get comfortable means get undressed! Girl usually leaves as you do so. Some places girl might help with your shoes. They might have a robe on a hook in the room, if so, Use it! If no robe, look for a towel and wrap that around you like a skirt. You can sit up or lay on the massage table: face down, towel covering your waist to your thighs.

But note: IF offered a shower or table shower TAKE IT! I don't give a F if you just hopped out of the shower! The girl is going to be more comfortable if she KNOWS you are clean. Some places in Philly will toss yer salad if they cleaned you up down there. That said, it is always a good idea to show up clean & fresh at a AMP. Some places with no washy-washy facilities might turn you down if you show up in work clothes after you got done crawling around in trash to fix some equipment!

But you get naked with a towel around you and eventually the girl returns and starts the "massage". She might ask if oil is OK? For those with an SO, it might make sense to ask for no oil? Rub will be variable. Try saying "yes" or positive moaning when she hits a sore spot you want her to concentrate on. This isn't going to be a professional massage, and English skills might not be good, so communicating where you want a rub might not be easy. Anyway, enjoy whatever rub you are getting. [I](IF you want a professional massage, fork over $100 at Hand & Stone!)[/I]

I often let the arm nearest the girl to become active after a bit. I'll reach what I can on her and SOFTLY and GENTLY stroke her legs. Now if she brushes your hand away, respect that. Don't be grabby, just easy and sensuous. Depending on the girl and the place, you might be able to "roam" a bit. But you are signaling that you are down for extras later. No need to touch her, you can of course just lay there like a corpse!

Anyway, have had good rubs, poor rubs and times when the girl walked on my back. Eventually she will finish rubbing your back and now comes the "flip!" Don't worry if you are tenting the towel with a stiffy! Now here is where the rubber meets the road. Girl might go for it right away and ask what you want or continue with the rub. In the later case she'll rub your chest and legs. Rubs on the legs will get higher and eventually she will accidentally bump into your junk. If you don't give an approving moan, smile or whatever, you are indicating you are not interested in exras! At some point she might even grab yer junk for a few strokes!

Now this is where the 'danger" lies IF there is any. Girl is likely NOT LE, unless LE has taken over the whole business. Do not believe that LE or their reps could touch yer junk legally. Anyway here is where the "negotiation" of extras takes place. [B]DO NOT TALK ABOUT SEX FOR MONEY!!![/B] Point is that IF the place is bugged, yer cooked if there is a recording of you soliciting. Use hand gestures to indicate what you want. I'm sure everyone learned these in middle school! Your fingers can count too! This "fee" or donation is called the "tip!" Note however, if you wanna come back & be remembered, give an actual "tip" of $20+ after the session is over and before you leave!

Now note, IF for some odd reason you do get caught up in an LE sting, remember your 5th Amendment Rights. KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! LE is skilled in getting you to "talk" as they know most people caught with their hand in the cookie jar are going to spill their guts and incriminate themself. Don't do it! You are just there for a body rub! Keep your mouth shut! You aren't smarter than LE, [b]You can't talk your way out of a situation[/b] if they are intent on arresting you. But[b] you sure can talk yourself into an arrest.[/b]

Also understand LE is NOT your friend and they certainly are NOT going to "help you out!" or "make it easier for you!" This is a blatant lie and they are allowed to lie to you! Their whole goal is to get you to incriminate yourself so they can arrest you! Don't do it! No high priced lawyer can get you out of a situation where you confessed! Ask Public Defenders and they usually have little wiggle room to negotiate a plea because there is a confession. Keep your mouth shut!

Usually any LE stings are designed at stopping the trafficking of women. They usually aren't interested in the Johns. Trafficking is a felony, solicitation a misdemeanor. That said, you wander into an sting where you have controlled substances or weapons on you and LE will take that for a "win" and you'll get pinched. Of course confess to 'sex acts for money" and LE will take the win for that too.

So generally, AMP visits are low risk situations, IF you know how to behave. The one place where one needs to think is about the LOCATION of the AMP. There was an AMP in Newark that apparently was next to or near a residential area. Residents complaining about the comings and going, usually leads to an investigation. The reason that place was shuttered was LOCATION. So think about that when doing your DD. Oh and a place getting "too" popular on the boards could be a concern too. Just saying.

Oh and someone asked. [b]VA = Visiting Asians.[/b] This is an UTR outfit that travels around and provides the AMP Experience in Hotels. Lots of discussion on these boards about VA (sometimes referred to as TA. Traveling Asians) if one looks. Use to be ThriveToLife was the resident expert on VAs. [i] this is a topic for anther post[/i]

Anyone have an update / recommendation on talent at BW.

[QUOTE=Lgkok;5774880]Anyone have an update / recommendation on talent at BW.[/QUOTE]It looks like it was Saya and another lady here at BW. I met with Saya paid. 6 for the hour and tip 1. 0. I would not repeat with her. We just didn't click as she seems to be in late 30 early 40. I did receive BBBJ. It was one pop in CG and she cut the time short so she refunded me. 1 as she said she was busy.

In addition to the touching, also respond positively when she washes your ass and dick. Also signals you're down for extras.

Just a note. I've been to Blue Wave and some others and I find it more awkward* than the Philly AMPs like 9 VIP or AZN Delight. In those AMPs you just put the full amount down (7 + 1. 0 or 6 + 1. 0, respectively) and the woman, not the MMS, takes the money. I never say anything. Never have had to and never got burned, like put the money down and didn't get BJ and FS. It might be easier for a newbie than one that involves negotiation.

*This may be me not understanding.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5773679]Glad you asked as this is the place to ask "how to" questions! Plenty of experts around here can help "mentor" you.

OK, so it has been a while since anyone has posted a "how to" on AMP visits, so I'll give my version and hopefully others (LuvARub+ others?) will add their spin or refinements.

I guess one CAN be wary of a AMP visit because of [I][u]potential[/u][/I] LE activity, but IF one conducts themself properly they can manage the risk down VERY low. This is a delicate little dance.

First and most important rule is [b]NEVER [u]EVER[/u] talk about sex for money![/b] Never say, "Can you do a blow job for $60"! You are going to an AMP for a body rub. That's it!

So you go to a place, do your homework first. Look for reviews from 3 months ago and get some names of the girls that were around then, but gone now. Point of this is that IF the mamasan asks you the key question, "Have you been here before?" You can say, "Yes, I saw _____". This puts the situation at ease. That use to be the key 'pass phrase" at the old Callowhill Relaxation Station years ago.

So some places you call ahead before showing up, others you just show up. Go to the door, knock or ring the bell and someone lets you in. Now BE COOL! You act all nervous, you'll make them nervous. Might be asked how long you want: rates are generally 40 for 30-minutes and 60 for 60-minutes. This "fee for time" is known as the [b]"House fee" - the fee for the rub.[/b] IF you want extras usually the 60-min rub is what you want to ask for. Usually you pay Mamasan the "house fee" up front. Have had house fee collected in the room by the girl at some places. Some places where things are assumed the house fee and "tip" are collected up front. Then you will be shown to a room or cubical and asked to get comfortable.

Anyway a request to get comfortable means get undressed! Girl usually leaves as you do so. Some places girl might help with your shoes. They might have a robe on a hook in the room, if so, Use it! If no robe, look for a towel and wrap that around you like a skirt. You can sit up or lay on the massage table: face down, towel covering your waist to your thighs.

But note: IF offered a shower or table shower TAKE IT! I don't give a F if you just hopped out of the shower! The girl is going to be more comfortable if she KNOWS you are clean. Some places in Philly will toss yer salad if they cleaned you up down there. That said, it is always a good idea to show up clean & fresh at a AMP. Some places with no washy-washy facilities might turn you down if you show up in work clothes after you got done crawling around in trash to fix some equipment!

But you get naked with a towel around you and eventually the girl returns and starts the "massage". She might ask if oil is OK? For those with an SO, it might make sense to ask for no oil? Rub will be variable. Try saying "yes" or positive moaning when she hits a sore spot you want her to concentrate on. This isn't going to be a professional massage, and English skills might not be good, so communicating where you want a rub might not be easy. Anyway, enjoy whatever rub you are getting. [I](IF you want a professional massage, fork over $100 at Hand & Stone!)[/I]

I often let the arm nearest the girl to become active after a bit. I'll reach what I can on her and SOFTLY and GENTLY stroke her legs. Now if she brushes your hand away, respect that. Don't be grabby, just easy and sensuous. Depending on the girl and the place, you might be able to "roam" a bit. But you are signaling that you are down for extras later. No need to touch her, you can of course just lay there like a corpse!

Anyway, have had good rubs, poor rubs and times when the girl walked on my back. Eventually she will finish rubbing your back and now comes the "flip!" Don't worry if you are tenting the towel with a stiffy! Now here is where the rubber meets the road. Girl might go for it right away and ask what you want or continue with the rub. In the later case she'll rub your chest and legs. Rubs on the legs will get higher and eventually she will accidentally bump into your junk. If you don't give an approving moan, smile or whatever, you are indicating you are not interested in exras! At some point she might even grab yer junk for a few strokes!

Now this is where the 'danger" lies IF there is any. Girl is likely NOT LE, unless LE has taken over the whole business. Do not believe that LE or their reps could touch yer junk legally. Anyway here is where the "negotiation" of extras takes place. [B]DO NOT TALK ABOUT SEX FOR MONEY!!![/B] Point is that IF the place is bugged, yer cooked if there is a recording of you soliciting. Use hand gestures to indicate what you want. I'm sure everyone learned these in middle school! Your fingers can count too! This "fee" or donation is called the "tip!" Note however, if you wanna come back & be remembered, give an actual "tip" of $20+ after the session is over and before you leave!

Now note, IF for some odd reason you do get caught up in an LE sting, remember your 5th Amendment Rights. KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! LE is skilled in getting you to "talk" as they know most people caught with their hand in the cookie jar are going to spill their guts and incriminate themself. Don't do it! You are just there for a body rub! Keep your mouth shut! You aren't smarter than LE, [b]You can't talk your way out of a situation[/b] if they are intent on arresting you. But[b] you sure can talk yourself into an arrest.[/b]

Also understand LE is NOT your friend and they certainly are NOT going to "help you out!" or "make it easier for you!" This is a blatant lie and they are allowed to lie to you! Their whole goal is to get you to incriminate yourself so they can arrest you! Don't do it! No high priced lawyer can get you out of a situation where you confessed! Ask Public Defenders and they usually have little wiggle room to negotiate a plea because there is a confession. Keep your mouth shut!

Usually any LE stings are designed at stopping the trafficking of women. They usually aren't interested in the Johns. Trafficking is a felony, solicitation a misdemeanor. That said, you wander into an sting where you have controlled substances or weapons on you and LE will take that for a "win" and you'll get pinched. Of course confess to 'sex acts for money" and LE will take the win for that too.

So generally, AMP visits are low risk situations, IF you know how to behave. The one place where one needs to think is about the LOCATION of the AMP. There was an AMP in Newark that apparently was next to or near a residential area. Residents complaining about the comings and going, usually leads to an investigation. The reason that place was shuttered was LOCATION. So think about that when doing your DD. Oh and a place getting "too" popular on the boards could be a concern too. Just saying.

Oh and someone asked. [b]VA = Visiting Asians.[/b] This is an UTR outfit that travels around and provides the AMP Experience in Hotels. Lots of discussion on these boards about VA (sometimes referred to as TA. Traveling Asians) if one looks. Use to be ThriveToLife was the resident expert on VAs. [i] this is a topic for anther post[/i][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SpriteGuy;5775137]It looks like it was Saya and another lady here at BW. I met with Saya paid. 6 for the hour and tip 1. 0. I would not repeat with her. We just didn't click as she seems to be in late 30 early 40. I did receive BBBJ. It was one pop in CG and she cut the time short so she refunded me. 1 as she said she was busy.[/QUOTE]I hate it when they give the bums rush. At least she gave you some back, that normally never happens.

Bluewave is starting to make me nervous. There are suddenly a LOT of reviews on other sites, and last time I went they were visibly busy, with the parking lot full and mama making sure I didn't run into other guys in the hallway. Don't like a place that's attracting traffic like that. Also Casey appears to have gone permanently. Even though she didn't offer FS I loved seeing her. Think I'll be moving on.

[QUOTE=Lgkok;5784636]I hate it when they give the bums rush. At least she gave you some back, that normally never happens.[/QUOTE]I've been refunded at BW a few times before for the same reasons. Mamasan there runs a tight ship. The girls will turn the rooms quickly but if you politely point out that your time was shorted because they're busy, you'll get the additional $20 back ($40 hh, $60 hr) every time.

[QUOTE=CornLord;5786325][b]Bluewave is starting to make me nervous. There are suddenly a LOT of reviews on other sites,[/b] and last time I went they were visibly busy, with the parking lot full and mama making sure I didn't run into other guys in the hallway. Don't like a place that's attracting traffic like that. Also Casey appears to have gone permanently. Even though she didn't offer FS I loved seeing her. Think I'll be moving on.[/QUOTE]IMHO, Risk at this place has gone up!

Remember the last time a place on here was "the talk of the town?"

Then of course the place is VERY EXPOSED, no where to park discreetly, too easily monitored from afar and in the bullseye of the "Anti-Trafficking" Task Force that recently ramped up.

Each dude can manage risks as they choose. just sayin'