Safe Mongering in Honolulu

[QUOTE=PVenkman;3619354]I've had two providers out of my entire mongering career just offer up BBFS to me on my first time. I told them no but just by that offer made me think, she doing it with everyone and without discretion, isn't it only a matter of time till she gets something. Funny thing is, in my entire life I haven't caught anything and have gotten checked up on and nothing showed up so I'm of the opinion, std's are a pipedream.[/QUOTE]Assuming that when you say you got checked up, you're talking about a blood test, there is no blood existing test which can detect HPV. Also, you can be infected with and be a carrier of HPV without exhibiting any visible symptoms, meaning warts. So the fact is, you really cannot say for certain you don't have an STD. You could be a carrier for HPV and not even know it. More people are infected with HPV than any other STD.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3620124]Assuming that when you say you got checked up, you're talking about a blood test, there is no blood existing test which can detect HPV. Also, you can be infected with and be a carrier of HPV without exhibiting any visible symptoms, meaning warts. So the fact is, you really cannot say for certain you don't have an STD. You could be a carrier for HPV and not even know it. More people are infected with HPV than any other STD.[/QUOTE]You shared your case with the Forum; how's it going?

[QUOTE=HMobius;3620386]You shared your case with the Forum; how's it going?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, the short answer is, to date I have no clear answers. Yet. Still in the battle, and continue learning from the situation and making discoveries. It's not all bad news. I had some rather large warts the first few months. Those have totally disappeared! Those were on my dick shaft and they are GONE, thank goodness. But I have a crop of small warts that are refusing to give up, on my groin and right inner thigh. Early on I was using various substances known to be death to viruses, stuff systemically like colloidal silver for example. But of late I've mostly dropped that strategy in favor of boosting my immune system. I now suspect that's key. Theoretically the immune system should be strong enough and intelligent enough to fight off ANY invading virus. So I've made a study of ways to empower my immune system. I've spent a ton of money on this project and have more supplements on order as we speak. I've had limited successes but need to finish the job. Concurrently and meanwhile, I've also been experimenting with topical creams and oils to try to kill the warts locally. I realize local application of apple cider vinegar is quite popular for this, but I've avoided it over concerns of possibly developing burns, open sores, scarring. I also avoided the docs with their liquid nitrogen freezing because a bunch of the warts are so darned tiny I felt that method wouldn't have been feasible in my case. I'll come back on the board with info as to what worked, if / when I succeed in wiping out every last wart once and for all.

Safe mongering = pornhub + Vaseline + hand = save $$$ -risk + nap zzzz.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3620124]Assuming that when you say you got checked up, you're talking about a blood test, there is no blood existing test which can detect HPV. Also, you can be infected with and be a carrier of HPV without exhibiting any visible symptoms, meaning warts. So the fact is, you really cannot say for certain you don't have an STD. You could be a carrier for HPV and not even know it. More people are infected with HPV than any other STD.[/QUOTE]Honestly man it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if this entire community (mongers / girls) all tested 100% positive for HPV. It spreads way too fast through small communities, has so many different types and the majority of people won't show symptoms at all or not for years at a time.

Depending on the test type used, if infected with HIV, it may not be detectable until 1 to 3 months after exposure. Older tests might have taken 6 months. The more expensive tests can detect after 1 month. The more common tests can detect after 3 months. So you have to inquire what type/generation HIV test is used to know the window period. You have to refrain from unprotected sex for the latency time the test requires before being tested. This may be of importance to BB mongerers that want to be sure they're clean before getting with a real SO.

Kind of dumb hearing a BB provider saying she gets regularly tested as making her safe. She can get tested in the morning and get infected later that night and won't know until at least 1 month till the next test (if a fourth generation test). Or she could have got tested only 1 week after being infected and it wouldn't yet show on the test. And the early weeks after infection are when she would be the most infectious.

[QUOTE=Idusixtyning;3620577]Depending on the test type used, if infected with HIV, it may not be detectable until 1 to 3 months after exposure. Older tests might have taken 6 months. The more expensive tests can detect after 1 month. The more common tests can detect after 3 months. So you have to inquire what type/generation HIV test is used to know the window period. You have to refrain from unprotected sex for the latency time the test requires before being tested. This may be of importance to BB mongerers that want to be sure they're clean before getting with a real SO.

Kind of dumb hearing a BB provider saying she gets regularly tested as making her safe. She can get tested in the morning and get infected later that night and won't know until at least 1 month till the next test (if a fourth generation test). Or she could have got tested only 1 week after being infected and it wouldn't yet show on the test. And the early weeks after infection are when she would be the most infectious.[/QUOTE]Worse yet, she could boast being negative when really her serum levels are low enough so as to merely be "undetectable", because she is on a drug regimen. Of course, they would not admit being "Poz".

[QUOTE=Blake123;3619467]Yeah. It's sort of like Russian roulette. Take your chances. It's part of this hobby.

I lived in Thailand for two years back in the day before HIV / AIDS was a household word. I was sexually active to the max with the Thai girls like there was no tomorrow. Ridiculously inexpensive all-night sleep-overs with the girls back then. Always BBFSCIP. First year, I never caught anything. I was so young and confident back then and thought I was invulnerable. Really. Then, during the second year, I caught the clap four times, and that caught my attention. Shots of Penicillin directly in my ass plus a 10-day supply of Tetracycline always cleared the bug.

I really wish I could BBFS nowadays because it feels oh so good but won't because of the SO.[/QUOTE]If you partake in this hobby, moral responsibility to your SO is of utmost importance. Not preaching, just saying.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3620483]Unfortunately, the short answer is, to date I have no clear answers. Yet. Still in the battle, and continue learning from the situation and making discoveries. It's not all bad news. I had some rather large warts the first few months. Those have totally disappeared! Those were on my dick shaft and they are GONE, thank goodness. But I have a crop of small warts that are refusing to give up, on my groin and right inner thigh. Early on I was using various substances known to be death to viruses, stuff systemically like colloidal silver for example. But of late I've mostly dropped that strategy in favor of boosting my immune system. I now suspect that's key. Theoretically the immune system should be strong enough and intelligent enough to fight off ANY invading virus. So I've made a study of ways to empower my immune system. I've spent a ton of money on this project and have more supplements on order as we speak. I've had limited successes but need to finish the job. Concurrently and meanwhile, I've also been experimenting with topical creams and oils to try to kill the warts locally. I realize local application of apple cider vinegar is quite popular for this, but I've avoided it over concerns of possibly developing burns, open sores, scarring. I also avoided the docs with their liquid nitrogen freezing because a bunch of the warts are so darned tiny I felt that method wouldn't have been feasible in my case. I'll come back on the board with info as to what worked, if / when I succeed in wiping out every last wart once and for all.[/QUOTE]Oh man, sounds rough. How do providers react when they see the warts, or haven't they yet? Good luck man.

[QUOTE=HMobius;3622649]Oh man, sounds rough. How do providers react when they see the warts, or haven't they yet? Good luck man.[/QUOTE]I always tell them about my situation first thing in the room, show them, and the reaction without exception has been, I get commended for my honesty. I think as a result, they actually trust me more than before. But I'm only going to a few providers who already know my situation, and not having intercourse with any of them. At the most I monger once a week.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3623530]I always tell them about my situation first thing in the room, show them, and the reaction without exception has been, I get commended for my honesty. I think as a result, they actually trust me more than before. But I'm only going to a few providers who already know my situation, and not having intercourse with any of them. At the most I monger once a week.[/QUOTE]Cool. Actually I was not complete in my question; I was also thinking about MTs (HJ or legit). I do not know if you partake though.

Well, I hope you can treat the condition without harming yourself.

Everyone, I have been mongering on the mainland for the last year and visiting HNL soon again. However, got into an accident and now have fresh stitches on my hand. Want to partake again in the local scene but am concerned how my stitches will affect safety. Particularly about catching stuff through body fluids transfer. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.

So on the other threads I read a lot about BBJ DATY DFK Rimming and so forth. Despite that I'm told you can't get HIV from saliva you can get a whole lot of other things including Hep A, Hep B, Syphalis, Clap, and other things. Picture this. Customer comes in and does DFK gets BBJ with or without CIM. Next customer comes in and starts with DFK (with remants of the last CIM) then BBJ does DATY and receives rimming. Next customer comes in and gets DFK with ooozes from the last clients rimming still there, then does DATY and gets BBJ during whiich he precums. Next customer comes in and starts with DFK and has remants of the BBJ precum in his mouth. The more popular providers can do in the range of 8 to 10 customers a day so that is fifty per week if two days off, 70 per week if doing all week. So assumning a provider gets tested every 3 months or so that means 630 customers serviced between testing if she does 3 weeks per month. If any of the earlier customers had any SDT then the infection rate is huge.

Just saying. I'm going covered and no DFK or even LFK.

[QUOTE=JimBoyden;3624501]So on the other threads I read a lot about BBJ DATY DFK Rimming and so forth. Despite that I'm told you can't get HIV from saliva you can get a whole lot of other things including Hep A, Hep B, Syphalis, Clap, and other things. Picture this. Customer comes in and does DFK gets BBJ with or without CIM. Next customer comes in and starts with DFK (with remants of the last CIM) then BBJ does DATY and receives rimming. Next customer comes in and gets DFK with ooozes from the last clients rimming still there, then does DATY and gets BBJ during whiich he precums. Next customer comes in and starts with DFK and has remants of the BBJ precum in his mouth. The more popular providers can do in the range of 8 to 10 customers a day so that is fifty per week if two days off, 70 per week if doing all week. So assumning a provider gets tested every 3 months or so that means 630 customers serviced between testing if she does 3 weeks per month. If any of the earlier customers had any SDT then the infection rate is huge.

Just saying. I'm going covered and no DFK or even LFK.[/QUOTE]lol I've never encountered a provider with anything oozing from her mouth. Hygiene between appointments is a big deal, and most of the veteran providers have a routine to get cleaned up.

Clearly there are very real hazards in this hobby. Many measured risks. But trying to convince guys that DFK is unhealthy is going to go over about as well as going to Rainbow Drive-in and giving a scientific presentation about how bad Loco Moco is for your body. There are a million dangerous or risky things that are bad for humans. But that doesn't stop people from eating unhealthy, spending too much money gambling, driving too fast, smoking, ignoring exercise, etc. And it's not going to stop a lot of guys here from DFK and BBBJ.

Everyone makes their own choices and you can never control others behavior. Only your own. Choose wisely.

[QUOTE=SexsSarved9141;3624081]Everyone, I have been mongering on the mainland for the last year and visiting HNL soon again. However, got into an accident and now have fresh stitches on my hand. Want to partake again in the local scene but am concerned how my stitches will affect safety. Particularly about catching stuff through body fluids transfer. Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]At the start of the session, you might want to put a cleaner's glove (or some other type of protective glove) over that hand. With a smile, tell the provider upfront why you're wearing the glove. If she's curious you might show her the stitches so she doesn't think you're trying to hide some contagious disease.