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[QUOTE=LadiesMan217;2433284]I tried to post last night, but some reason it did not show up. I did see Tasha and she tried to do the same thing. I had never been to CDS, and let her know that. Almost as soon as she came into the room, she said "you give me $$, Ok?" I said no, I already gave MS HF. I do not know if rebuffing her upsell set the tone, but there was no GFE at all. She does have nice skin, nice natural Bee cups, and a little ink of a butterfly and a shark looking dolphin, or dolphin looking shark. There was no kissing above the neck, and no BBBJ. All in all an average experience from a "nice" lady, but certainly not worth passing up on the 109 ladies. I think I will stick with the 109 ladies and pass on the CDS ladies. The 109 ladies are all stars, CDS ladies seem to be second string IMO. Will not repeat.[/QUOTE]Question, what is wrong with putting your clothes back on and heading for the door. If Happy is the business worker as heretofore described, she will ask questions. If a provider gives me the up sell, I can request another girl. ].
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[QUOTE=LadiesMan217;2433284]I tried to post last night, but some reason it did not show up. I did see Tasha and she tried to do the same thing. I had never been to CDS, and let her know that. Almost as soon as she came into the room, she said "you give me $$, Ok?" I said no, I already gave MS HF. I do not know if rebuffing her upsell set the tone, but there was no GFE at all. She does have nice skin, nice natural Bee cups, and a little ink of a butterfly and a shark looking dolphin, or dolphin looking shark. There was no kissing above the neck, and no BBBJ. All in all an average experience from a "nice" lady, but certainly not worth passing up on the 109 ladies. I think I will stick with the 109 ladies and pass on the CDS ladies. The 109 ladies are all stars, CDS ladies seem to be second string IMO. Will not repeat.[/QUOTE]I think this is the best thing you can do. The ladies I've seen from 109 provide excellent service and don't upsell. I guess the holdover women from CD didn't have anywhere to go, so Happy took them in. Mama Hana asked me if I wanted to see one of the CD women and I declined. I've waited for a half hour to see Shiny and have never been sorry.
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[QUOTE=Chik0848;2434115]I think this is the best thing you can do. The ladies I've seen from 109 provide excellent service and don't upsell. I guess the holdover women from CD didn't have anywhere to go, so Happy took them in. Mama Hana asked me if I wanted to see one of the CD women and I declined. I've waited for a half hour to see Shiny and have never been sorry.[/QUOTE]Contrary to what some may think, Happy did not take over CDS. She moved there so they could have a bigger location and because of the recent events going on at CC.
There are two SEPARATE entities operating out of CDS. Lily has her girls (Baby, Tasha and Pearl) and Happy has hers (presently Shiny, Lucy, Ari, Angel and Miki). They are not one and the same. It's probably confusing because Lily's girls are listed in the Happiness ads. I'm sure that was negotiated beforehand to save Lily some money on advertising (notice no CDS ads).
All reviews and / or comments should be posted on the respective CDS or Happiness threads.
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[QUOTE=USukebe2;2434264]Contrary to what some may think, Happy did not take over CDS. She moved there so they could have a bigger location and because of the recent events going on at CC.
There are two SEPARATE entities operating out of CDS. Lily has her girls (Baby, Tasha and Pearl) and Happy has hers (presently Shiny, Lucy, Ari, Angel and Miki). They are not one and the same. It's probably confusing because Lily's girls are listed in the Happiness ads. I'm sure that was negotiated beforehand to save Lily some money on advertising (notice no CDS ads).
All reviews and / or comments should be posted on the respective CDS or Happiness threads.[/QUOTE]What's the name of the place? CDS or Happiness, China Doll Spa of Happiness?
Old Sunflower( now owned by Yoyo ), CC109, and China Doll Spa ... same owner, a very nice older Chinese lady.
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[QUOTE=Goser;2433565]We will see how well her business approach works. I hope it does because I like Happy. If she establishes the reputation of treating her girls the best and the best providers in the State want to work for her, then she will be golden. We already know she treats the guys at least as well as any other Mama-san.[/QUOTE]It seems as if her business model is working fine. Open less than 3 months at 109 and she had to move to bigger digs. Ladies get treated like people, friends, family by her, not commodities that she can trade like playing cards. Clients get treated like royalty. I've seen reports by first time customers of hers that reported being fed after their session. That's pretty good customer service.
Goser, as for your other questions regarding service at Happiness, I'm pretty sure that all of the ladies have been well reviewed both in the Happiness thread and the threads of the establishment that they worked at before working with Happy. A little research is all it takes.
I believe that the issue / concern with fake pics at Happiness has been addressed ad nauseum, so I'm not touching that one again.
The ladies at Happiness service the customer in their own ways that they are comfortable with. I've never been to Empire, but it's my understanding that Ivy runs a tight ship, tells the girls what is expected of them from the beginning, and based on several reports, that service sometimes drops off the charts when a girls contracted time is up. The ladies at Happiness (not counting the CDS girls, but the ones that came from 109 with Happy) all have their own styles. I'm pretty sure that Greek and BBFS aren't on any of the providers menus, but the rest of the items that you asked about are pretty much available by all, but YMMV.
I really encourage you to do a lite homework here and see what others have said about these gals over the past few months and years. I did, and that, together with the fact that Happy has never set me up with a disappointing time, is why I'm sold on her and her business model. She's never lied to me about a girl or put me with someone just to make the quick house fee, because she knows the value of a satisfied repeat customer that writes good reviews, and the power that those reviews carries.
Again, do the research. Not many if any places like empire where the girls all have the same rules mandated by mama. Most places if not all have lineups that have girls with varying services, but few of them have an all star line up like Happiness.
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[QUOTE=ShaggyDoo;2434304]What's the name of the place? CDS or Happiness, China Doll Spa of Happiness?
Old Sunflower( now owned by Yoyo ), CC109, and China Doll Spa ... same owner, a very nice older Chinese lady.[/QUOTE]The sign at the door still says China Doll. But that could be because of quickness of the move and not being able to change it yet. Another theory, as stated previously, is that Happy merely brought her crew to the place for the increased space. She knows she has a good customer base, and as always in Hawaii. Word of mouth is key. So regardless of the sign, people know where her quality service is.
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Appreciate the input involving my recent review of Tasha. I figured I was in the right, as I have been tipping the standard rate discussed. Even though, a part of me was thinking "am I the cheap-o customer?" Side note. I miss Michelle.
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Right on, Nut, Happy's girls have been reviewed many times, and provide awesome service. I have been to Empire at least a dozen times. Service was almost always good, young providers, most pretty good looking, but I never repeated with any of them. A couple were real duds. I have repeated with all of Happy's girls. I like great service, not just good! Then there's Happy herself- I have seen her a few times (LOL) - and I just might see her a hundred more!
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Happy and I sat in the smoking area, had some coffee and talked about things past, present and future. I like what the future holds for me. Every time Happy has spoken with me about things to come, she's delivered. That's one of the many things that I appreciate about her. She's never given me any "be. S. " When she says something, she delivers.
[/QUOTE]I tend to agree. There are a few very good mamsans out there like Jun at CHM and May at Rejuve, But, Happy is the only one who takes the time to invite me on the couch next to her and asks what I like and how I want it. I tell her I want her, but she's not available for now. She loves to flirt, and I like that. She seems to be very genuine in wanting to make her customers happy. And, she always offers to feed me. No other MS that I know treats her customers like that. She is a true gem.
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[QUOTE=Blake123;2434445]I tend to agree. There are a few very good mamsans out there like Jun at CHM and May at Rejuve, But, Happy is the only one who takes the time to invite me on the couch next to her and asks what I like and how I want it. I tell her I want her, but she's not available for now. She loves to flirt, and I like that. She seems to be very genuine in wanting to make her customers happy. And, she always offers to feed me. No other MS that I know treats her customers like that. She is a true gem.[/QUOTE]This is the reason I would go to Happiness. Probably the same reason the girls go there. It's one of the reason's I've 3-peated with Happy.
For now, I will wait for a girl I want to see. None of her girls, other than Lucy, even remotely interest me at this time. I saw Shiny at 109. She was good, but no repeat. Jio would be high on the list, but she only provides all covered service. Michelle seems to have the type of service I like, but she had a face that I didn't prefer.
I am curious if someone can comment on how busy it is there. I am usually pressed for time when I go. Does it get busy where you cannot get a full B2 b table shower? I ask because I couldn't get it with Shiny since it was busy at 109.
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[QUOTE=Nutmaker;2434355]It seems as if her business model is working fine. Open less than 3 months at 109 and she had to move to bigger digs. Ladies get treated like people, friends, family by her, not commodities that she can trade like playing cards. Clients get treated like royalty. I've seen reports by first time customers of hers that reported being fed after their session. That's pretty good customer service.
Goser, as for your other questions regarding service at Happiness, I'm pretty sure that all of the ladies have been well reviewed both in the Happiness thread and the threads of the establishment that they worked at before working with Happy. A little research is all it takes.
I believe that the issue / concern with fake pics at Happiness has been addressed ad nauseum, so I'm not touching that one again.
The ladies at Happiness service the customer in their own ways that they are comfortable with. I've never been to Empire, but it's my understanding that Ivy runs a tight ship, tells the girls what is expected of them from the beginning, and based on several reports, that service sometimes drops off the charts when a girls contracted time is up. The ladies at Happiness (not counting the CDS girls, but the ones that came from 109 with Happy) all have their own styles. I'm pretty sure that Greek and BBFS aren't on any of the providers menus, but the rest of the items that you asked about are pretty much available by all, but YMMV.
I really encourage you to do a lite homework here and see what others have said about these gals over the past few months and years. I did, and that, together with the fact that Happy has never set me up with a disappointing time, is why I'm sold on her and her business model. She's never lied to me about a girl or put me with someone just to make the quick house fee, because she knows the value of a satisfied repeat customer that writes good reviews, and the power that those reviews carries.
Again, do the research. Not many if any places like empire where the girls all have the same rules mandated by mama. Most places if not all have lineups that have girls with varying services, but few of them have an all star line up like Happiness.[/QUOTE]I really like Happy and I wish her nothing but success. I think she will be successful because she is able to attract top providers by being nice to them and she will be able to attract guys because she is nice to them, too.
For me, I do my own research. I did 3-peat of Happy when she was at Kison and Top. I could have seen Jio at Ginza or Lucy at Tokyo Spa or Michelle at CHM. I didn't. I am not more likely to see them at the CDS location. In fact, I am less likely to do so because of the more public location and the increased probability that both table showers will be in use when I want to go there. It may be valuable to someone who doesn't do their research and just wants to take what the mama offers. I can see the value there. I also like the fact that Happy flirts and offers food. Those are positives that I like, but are not the real drivers of where I go.
What would really make me go to Happiness more often is if she created a VIP program with an offsite location that is not advertised. The site has several table showers and a jacuzzi. She charges a membership fee of something like $500 per year. Entry fee is say $300 for up to 3 hours and includes one session. Members get nude pictures of the girls emailed to them along with their full suite of services. When you show up, you put your clothes in a locker and put on a robe. You go into a room filled with both guys and girls in sexy skimpy clothing. Drinks and hors the'oevres are served. Music is playing in the background. You get to interact with the girls. Flirting and kissing are allowed. You get to take one girl to a room when you are ready. If you want to stay and see another girl or you want two of them, you pay another $150 fee. That would be different.
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[QUOTE=Nutmaker;2433204]Made my long overdue appt with Shiny and got down to the Happiest place on Earth. Walked in and was greeted by the Happy one herself with her usual big hug and smile. Umm, her smile had a little more Cheshire Cat to it this time than usual. She looked at me dead in the eye and said " I really miss you Honey! Wow. 5 little words that went starlight from my ears to my crotch, and she knew it. She always flirts with me, both when I get there and when I'm finished seeing whoever I've seen, but this seemed like more. She led me to the room and said that Shiny would be here in a minute, reached up and wrapped one arm around my neck, pulling me down for one of the biggest, wettest kisses I've had in a while, and reaching for jr. With the other hand. I had shorts on and was going commando, so when she reached down my shorts, she had a hard handful of me. She broke off the kiss and looked at me with another Cheshire Cat grin, reminding me that she hasn't forgotten about me. Just about then Shiny walked in and asked if she was in the right room, also with a big grin and a playful giggle. I looked at Happy waiting to hear what she said, and she tells me "soon baby" as she let me go and backed away. OMG, my brain was going nuts trying to think of something witty, but for once I was at a loss for words.
As Happy left, Shiny came in and took over. We hadn't been together since before her vacation, and were both looking forward to reaquainting ourselves with one another. She told me how happy she was that I was seeing her here, because now we had a proper table shower. Ya, she made great use of the added space and larger table. She soaped me up and we had a great time, front, back and side to side. Shiny is not only super sexy, extremely pretty, but she has an inner beauty that shines through, no pun intended. Her voice is soooo sexy and her big eyes have a way of saying so much when she stares into mine. We finished our soapy wonderland of fun and it was back to the room.
Back in the room, Shiny continued to dry me, excused herself to get her bag of goodies, and came back smelling like a goddess. I don't know what perfume she had applied, but it went straight from my nose to my loins. It seems that on this day, my brain is getting bypassed and everything is going straight to jr. The rest of the hour was full of passion and lust, with the two of us finishing together in a tight embrace. That's when she looked into my eyes again, this time with a look of satisfaction and inner peace. We smiled, exchanged a few thoughts, kissed some more, held each other some more, and decided to clean up again. I glanced at the clock and couldn't believe how much time we had spent together. We cleaned, she dressed me, and walked me out where Happy was waiting. I thanked Shiny again, and she asked me not to wait so long for our next time.
Happy and I sat in the smoking area, had some coffee and talked about things past, present and future. I like what the future holds for me. Every time Happy has spoken with me about things to come, she's delivered. That's one of the many things that I appreciate about her. She's never given me any "be. S. " When she says something, she delivers.
She massaged my jaw a little bit, with a playful, knowing smile, placing a finger on my lips and saying that she misses me. Damn, that grin and the look in her eyes that comes with it gets me every time.[/QUOTE]Excellent review. Shiny is an excellent provider and her BBBJ is one of the best in the business. She has enhanced boobs which I normally don't like, but hers are pretty good. She is a girl at Happiness that I would repeat with.
However, I would rate Yas at Hula (I've never had a bad session with her even though I know others have) and Cherry (when she was here) at Empire much higher. Cherry was so good (my ATF at Empire. I was surprised she didn't get many votes in the best of the year thread). That's because Shiny is an older provider and you can't tell that from her pictures. You can't tell that Michelle had an acne problem affecting her facial appearance. So, the fact that Happy doesn't post real pictures does matter. Also, I've noticed that many prolific posters on this board don't seem to have the same issue I do with facial appearances of the girls. So, when they post a review of a girl, I need to modulate what they say at times. Yoko at Kison is a good example of an extremely highly rated girl who I really didn't like at all. Even Happy as the 2 time provider of the year isn't in my personal top 10 in either year (mostly because she doesn't have natural boobs). This is a prime example of to each his own. It could be that my taste in girls is just different than the majority of this boards posters. That's fine, but I am not alone so others will find this information useful.
So, when rating the quality of an AMP, I put a high premium on posting real pictures. Empire in number 1 in this category. I wish Happy did it, too.
I don't mean to be negative in my posts because as I said, I like Happy and what she is doing. She and her girls are top notch providers. However, the posts in this thread are tilted toward the overly positive side and some balance needs to be provided into this thread.
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[QUOTE=MondoBadfoot;2434405]Right on, Nut, Happy's girls have been reviewed many times, and provide awesome service. I have been to Empire at least a dozen times. Service was almost always good, young providers, most pretty good looking, but I never repeated with any of them. A couple were real duds. I have repeated with all of Happy's girls. I like great service, not just good! Then there's Happy herself- I have seen her a few times (LOL) - and I just might see her a hundred more![/QUOTE]And you probably would have seen these girls and repeated with them whether or not they ever worked at Happiness.
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[QUOTE=Nutmaker;2434355]It seems as if her business model is working fine. Open less than 3 months at 109 and she had to move to bigger digs. Ladies get treated like people, friends, family by her, not commodities that she can trade like playing cards. Clients get treated like royalty. I've seen reports by first time customers of hers that reported being fed after their session. That's pretty good customer service.
Goser, as for your other questions regarding service at Happiness, I'm pretty sure that all of the ladies have been well reviewed both in the Happiness thread and the threads of the establishment that they worked at before working with Happy. A little research is all it takes.
I believe that the issue / concern with fake pics at Happiness has been addressed ad nauseum, so I'm not touching that one again.
The ladies at Happiness service the customer in their own ways that they are comfortable with. I've never been to Empire, but it's my understanding that Ivy runs a tight ship, tells the girls what is expected of them from the beginning, and based on several reports, that service sometimes drops off the charts when a girls contracted time is up. The ladies at Happiness (not counting the CDS girls, but the ones that came from 109 with Happy) all have their own styles. I'm pretty sure that Greek and BBFS aren't on any of the providers menus, but the rest of the items that you asked about are pretty much available by all, but YMMV.
I really encourage you to do a lite homework here and see what others have said about these gals over the past few months and years. I did, and that, together with the fact that Happy has never set me up with a disappointing time, is why I'm sold on her and her business model. She's never lied to me about a girl or put me with someone just to make the quick house fee, because she knows the value of a satisfied repeat customer that writes good reviews, and the power that those reviews carries.
Again, do the research. Not many if any places like empire where the girls all have the same rules mandated by mama. Most places if not all have lineups that have girls with varying services, but few of them have an all star line up like Happiness.[/QUOTE]I have had uniformly great experiences at Happiness with Happy herself (several times), Michelle, Angel and Genie. Unfortunately, my most recent experience at Happiness was not so good, but I fell compelled to write about it to let everyone know. Shiny has had a number of positive reviews her so I decided to give her a try. While the session began good enough with a nice table shower with sensual b2 be, when we got back into the room, it seemed to a different story. Maybe we just didn't click, but Shiny just seemed to be going through the motions. She acted like she did not want to be there. When I tried to kiss her, she turned away, and I know my breath was minty fresh. To make matters worse, I got an early knock on the door, the first time that has ever happened at Happiness. When the knock came, Shiny immediately began to rush me to a finish telling me time is up (it actually wasn't, it was 15 minutes too early) you have to hurry. Talk about killing the mood. Finally, after this disappointing session ended and as I was being rushed out the door, Shiny actually counted the tip in front of me, something that never happened before at Happiness. Frankly, after the number of times I have been there, I found it downright rude--especially as a repeat and loyal customer. To top it off, Shiny then asked me for another $. 10, which I gave her. I had mistakenly given her $1. 40, but frankly, in view of the service I got, she was lucky to get that. I hope Happy reads this because it was a disappointing experience. I did not see Happy there as I was leaving, if she was there, I would have talked to her.
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[QUOTE=Surfbreak;2435072]I have had uniformly great experiences at Happiness with Happy herself (several times), Michelle, Angel and Genie. Unfortunately, my most recent experience at Happiness was not so good, but I fell compelled to write about it to let everyone know. Shiny has had a number of positive reviews her so I decided to give her a try. While the session began good enough with a nice table shower with sensual b2 be, when we got back into the room, it seemed to a different story. Maybe we just didn't click, but Shiny just seemed to be going through the motions. She acted like she did not want to be there. When I tried to kiss her, she turned away, and I know my breath was minty fresh. To make matters worse, I got an early knock on the door, the first time that has ever happened at Happiness. When the knock came, Shiny immediately began to rush me to a finish telling me time is up (it actually wasn't, it was 15 minutes too early) you have to hurry. Talk about killing the mood. Finally, after this disappointing session ended and as I was being rushed out the door, Shiny actually counted the tip in front of me, something that never happened before at Happiness. Frankly, after the number of times I have been there, I found it downright rude--especially as a repeat and loyal customer. To top it off, Shiny then asked me for another $. 10, which I gave her. I had mistakenly given her $1. 40, but frankly, in view of the service I got, she was lucky to get that. I hope Happy reads this because it was a disappointing experience. I did not see Happy there as I was leaving, if she was there, I would have talked to her.[/QUOTE]Thanks for post. Not every visit can be positive. I hope guys don't jump all over you for posting your experience, which did not go well. I applaud your willingness to give an unfavorable review. Maybe Shiny had bad experience with previous customer. That is why I do not like to see a girl if she has just finished with a customer. That is one of the downsides with places that mongers flock too; girls can't down throttle between customers.