[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1398506]What's the controversy again? $100 is standard tip for HJ without prior negotiation, right?[/QUOTE]Yeah whats wrong with that?
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[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1398506]What's the controversy again? $100 is standard tip for HJ without prior negotiation, right?[/QUOTE]Yeah whats wrong with that?
[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1398506]What's the controversy again? $100 is standard tip for HJ without prior negotiation, right?[/QUOTE]I assume you mean. 5 for the massage and. 5 in tip for a total of $.
[QUOTE=Somehaole; 1398325]This was pretty much the bigger point of my post. It is the nature of mt places. I've read a hundred times on this forum to only take what you plan to spend. And we have all had the hard upsell (hf + $ tip for Nikki's he? Get real). I went to a very well known provider once (my first time with her) and on the flip when she asked if I wanted he I told her I had enough for. 5 tip and was that enough. She kind of freaked and thought I might be LE. She wanted no discussion of money. It worked out in the end, but that just shows how difficult this can be.
That is why I believe honesty is the best. Take what seems to be the standard price, ask if that is ok. If its not, then no he for me. No harm no foul. What else is a guy supposed to do other than take a ton of cash and pay whatever they want?
By the way, I wasn't knocking this provider for wanting $.2. That's fine. I think it was just honest miscommunication. I thought she understood what I was willing to pay and she thought I understood how much she wanted. I did feel bad about that. What pissed me off was cutting the massage to 25 minutes. $.2 for a 25 minute mediocre massage plus mediocre he? No way. That was the real issue that pissed me off. If I fully understood the situation, I would have declined the he and paid for the massage and walked. Even. 6 for 25 minute massage is absurd.
Like I said, this is a business transaction. I pay the money and they provide the service. If they cut the service in half, why should I have to pay the full amount? We have all been there and most of us paid anyway (including me. Everytime). Again, just the nature of the hobby. But the girls that do that rarely get good reviews. That was the main point. That cutting it short is much more likely to happen if they expect FS. But with a new girl, it's hard to know what to expect. To avoid wasting both our time, I do my best to stay away from FS massage type places, like mayflower. But knowing what will happen with a new girl is really difficult.
In my mind, paying too much for half ass service is the real driver behind higher prices. Not my honesty about my funds. If this provider can get $.2 for a 25 minute massage + he, where is the inventive to ever give the full hour?
I talk too much. Sorry. Just trying to clarify what the issues are in my eyes.
I'm not a vet at this. Started fairly recently. And sometimes it feels like a minefield.[/QUOTE]Ive spent the last few days in Costa Rica and the ticas would be on to you in a heartbeat, likewise, the columbianas. Your experiences have too much thinking into the hobby for me, dude. Good luck......Cheap Charlie
[QUOTE=russguy;1395625]I finally got through on the appointment form and will see Nala next week. Can someone confirm for me that the fee for 1 hour is $.20?[/QUOTE]If you think Nala is hard to get through to, just try making an appt. With Lucy at C C. She has a NEW sugar daddy and he really
Spolis her with whatever her little heart desires like a new audi-car in her name and diamonds, clothes and etc. Lucy works when she feels like it which is how these girls with sugar daddys operate. I am going to keep trying. Lucy is worth the challenge. Sometimes when it is difficult to get a certain lady it is because she has a SUGAR daddy.
[QUOTE=On The Prowl;1398371]Keke again why am I not surprised![/QUOTE]I'm not surprised either. She has that reputation.
What is the standard for an Independent MT massage and BJ massage with FS?
$ for Massage and BJ correct?
$.50 for massage and FS correct?
[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1398506]What's the controversy again? $100 is standard tip for HJ without prior negotiation, right?[/QUOTE]
I'm trying to track down one of my old ATFs, Bebe, who used to work with Lilly at Ideal Massage in CC. Just wondering if anyone here knows about her current whereabouts?
I know she moved out of state awhile back. I talked to her on her cel when she was living in Los Angeles, last year, but she flaked out on me when I tried to set up a meeting. She later changed her cel number. I checked with Lilly recently and she told me that Bebe is now living in Vegas, so I'm hoping to run into her over there because I'm planning on going next month.
So, if anyone has seen her in Vegas, or knows if she's working up there, please drop me a pm.
Mahalo!
[QUOTE=Ck813; 1399399]What is the standard for an Independent MT massage and BJ massage with FS?
$ for Massage and BJ correct?
$.50 for massage and FS correct?[/QUOTE]That's not including house fee of either 60 or 50 depending which spot you go to.
Tip / My scale / including massage good or not / not including hf.
HJ 40.
BJ / HJ 60.
BBBJ / HJ 70.
BBBJ / HJ cim 80.
FS 140/150 depending on house fee.
[QUOTE=NelsonYuen;1399363]I'm not surprised either. She has that reputation.[/QUOTE]Did anybody find out if that was true?
I saw her a lot, till that happened!
You mean Nikki from thai hawn? If you are into nice round implants with big dark nipples. She's the one to go to IMHO.
[QUOTE=Somehaole; 1398325]This was pretty much the bigger point of my post. It is the nature of mt places. I've read a hundred times on this forum to only take what you plan to spend. And we have all had the hard upsell (hf + $ tip for Nikki's he? Get real). I went to a very well known provider once (my first time with her) and on the flip when she asked if I wanted he I told her I had enough for. 5 tip and was that enough. She kind of freaked and thought I might be LE. She wanted no discussion of money. It worked out in the end, but that just shows how difficult this can be.
That is why I believe honesty is the best. Take what seems to be the standard price, ask if that is ok. If its not, then no he for me. No harm no foul. What else is a guy supposed to do other than take a ton of cash and pay whatever they want?
By the way, I wasn't knocking this provider for wanting $.2. That's fine. I think it was just honest miscommunication. I thought she understood what I was willing to pay and she thought I understood how much she wanted. I did feel bad about that. What pissed me off was cutting the massage to 25 minutes. $.2 for a 25 minute mediocre massage plus mediocre he? No way. That was the real issue that pissed me off. If I fully understood the situation, I would have declined the he and paid for the massage and walked. Even. 6 for 25 minute massage is absurd.
Like I said, this is a business transaction. I pay the money and they provide the service. If they cut the service in half, why should I have to pay the full amount? We have all been there and most of us paid anyway (including me. Everytime). Again, just the nature of the hobby. But the girls that do that rarely get good reviews. That was the main point. That cutting it short is much more likely to happen if they expect FS. But with a new girl, it's hard to know what to expect. To avoid wasting both our time, I do my best to stay away from FS massage type places, like mayflower. But knowing what will happen with a new girl is really difficult.
In my mind, paying too much for half ass service is the real driver behind higher prices. Not my honesty about my funds. If this provider can get $.2 for a 25 minute massage + he, where is the inventive to ever give the full hour?
I talk too much. Sorry. Just trying to clarify what the issues are in my eyes.
I'm not a vet at this. Started fairly recently. And sometimes it feels like a minefield.[/QUOTE]
Went to MF today and they got the new table. Well they are actually beds. Pretty comfy and a lot easier to manuever. Yoyo asked if I liked it and if it was too high. Told her it was perfect height, whatever that means. It was really comfortable and lot of fun with Sunni. Will do a separate report on Sunni. Yoyo said beds came in today. Yoyo was all dolled up today look really cute. She gave me the usual intimate hug while I copped a feel of her cute tush and boobs. All I can say it was pretty crowded when I was there this afternoon. When I left had about 4 pairs of men's shoes out there. Try out those beds brothers!
I try to keep prices as low as possible and don't advocate over tipping MTs. I just try to reward good service by seeing the girls more times. The lower I pay, the more often I can afford to see them. Remember, Hawaii prices are way above the normal prices charged on the West Coast, so don't feel bad. Why should we pay the Hawaii tax (the higher cost of living in Hawaii) in these tough economic times?
My general rule is 100 total out the door for a massage and HJ. Depending on the girl, if I liked her, I'd kick in an extra 20 for a BJ, but it's usually either just a HJ or FS for me. I never just stop with a BJ, if they are down for the sucking, they are down for the fucking LOL.
For the Chinese MTs that offer FS in CC, I always pay 140 total, for the more popular places like Kison or places that have hotter girls, I'll pay house (50) and then tip 120 for 170 total. I try to never pay more than 170 total for FS.
Most of the mamas that I talk to say that the business is really slow nowdays. That's why the mamas are just happy to get good customers in the door that are repeat customers. Be nice, polite and they will love you. The girls too are generally happy with what I tip. I'm sure there are some bitchy ones out there that are used to getting 140 but if they complain, I tell them next time, but there won't be a next time. Guys, it's a buyer's market. Let's keep the tipping in check.
Aloha!
[QUOTE=Ck813; 1399399]What is the standard for an Independent MT massage and BJ massage with FS?
$ for Massage and BJ correct?
$.50 for massage and FS correct?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Eric Shin;1399847]You mean Nikki from thai hawn? If you are into nice round implants with big dark nipples. She's the one to go to IMHO.[/QUOTE]Nikki left Thai Hawaiian about one month ago and is now working at Lucy's (aka Noi) place. #2403.
[QUOTE=Blake123;1400348]Nikki left Thai Hawaiian about one month ago and is now working at Lucy's (aka Noi) place. #2403.[/QUOTE]Saw her 3 times. Never had any luck.
Had a good session with Naomi but a better session with Gia this week. OMG Gia is one hot Chinese babe. There are many reports on Gia so no sense going over her looks. To me MILF provides the best service and young girls fulfill my fantasy but their service is not as attentive as MILFs however Gia is a excellent blend of both. Will I repeat? That is a most definite yes got see her before she goes on vacation one more time.
Naomi is pretty to me. She has a sweet look and her body is very nice. Service wise she didn't permit certain things that others reported but I guess that all depends on who the customer is which will determine what she will allow or not.
Standard fees, HF $60 and tips $140.
Got a glimpse of Sunni as I was leaving and she is a spinner and kind of cute from what I could see.
MF is a really nice and clean place not to mention a very friendly MS Yoyo, I think I found my new MT / AMP.