From all the advice you gave me I decided to stop by Four Seasons today instead of Thursday.
They were CLOSED at about 5:15 this evening!
WTF?
Is everything okay?
I will try again Thursday about the same time.
JJ
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From all the advice you gave me I decided to stop by Four Seasons today instead of Thursday.
They were CLOSED at about 5:15 this evening!
WTF?
Is everything okay?
I will try again Thursday about the same time.
JJ
[QUOTE=Sleazebum; 1252669]I am hitting one of these Thursday and need your advice!
Which is best? Four Seasons or ATMB?
Either PM or post here and let me know which one to take!
Thanks!
JJ[/QUOTE]Tough call. ATMB used to be a great massage and NOVA ending, with rare exceptions from providers who weren't there very long. Sometime in spring / summer2010 management changed and so did ATMB. A new mammasan (Kim) appeared and she was very nice. The girls would (some of them, some of the time) go rather beyond the NOVA standard. Then Kim disappeared and it seemed to me that ATMB didn't actually have a mammasan; the girls did it themselves, or one of them did both massages and assigned clients. I never really figured it out. Massage quality went down, but extra services became more available, if pricey. I quit going there in March because I was tired of the relentless upsell and tip negotiating, which NEVER used to happen at ATMB. I understand Kim is back and things may have changed.
One of the places I switched to was 4 Seasons. Never had a bad experience there. The massages have always been 7-8 on a 10 scale (with May, Sara and Sunny) , ending has been NOVA plus. I have mildly and politely tried to see if more is on tap, but it does not seem so. As noted below. 4 Seasons is nice, clean, good rooms, the only negative a long stroll to the TS.
So, I'd say 4 Seasons, but my ATMB info is a bit out of date.
[QUOTE=AznCajun; 1253419]Found this on CL and was curious for some time.
[url]http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/2537744705.html[/url]
Haven't heard or seen any reports, so I took the plunge. Maybe there have been reports, but missed it. Very legit place, MMS is nice and took the house fee. 60 at the counter. Was led to the room and asked to undress. Provider, named Laura, came in and asked if I wanted a TS, but it's. 10 extra. However, if you showered yourself, then it's free. Massage was nice, firm, and covered throughout. She is in her mid 30's cute, tall, and non-talkative. No standard NOVA finish offered.
Left unhappy.
-AC[/QUOTE]Azncajun,
Was this a dollar a minute place? If so, I have never found a dollar a minute massage place to be any good, except for a massage. They are great for coming close, then always wanting you to buy more time. They seem to be popping up more and more.
Thanks for the intel.
Not sure about the status of Four Seasons. However, I did see May at Top Therapy last Thursday but did not have a chance to ask her why she was not at Four Seasons.
[QUOTE=Sleazebum; 1253529]From all the advice you gave me I decided to stop by Four Seasons today instead of Thursday.
They were CLOSED at about 5:15 this evening!
WTF?
Is everything okay?
I will try again Thursday about the same time.
JJ[/QUOTE]
$40. Handshake.
$60. Speak into the mike.
$80. 69.
$100. Full Service.
That is my basic scale. Of course you may drop whatever you feel like you should and I even drop more if the service is far above average at each level.
This is not meant to start another pissing contest over tipping! This is just what I do and maybe can be a guide for newbies who are as stingy as I am.
JJ
I've somewhat followed the same guidelines, but found 'Speak into the Mike / BJ' more expensive (80-100). I go 60 if they drop the clothes or DATY.
To add to Sleazebum's comments, a number of us appreciate the providers that don't hassle or upsell us for a tip. Please don't short-change the girls that don't hassle or upsell us; they will gradually start disappearing and avoid you. If I don't like their service, I personally tip to the standard rates and don't go back. If I do like their service, as PA indicated, 'be nice & treat them right; then, everyone can smile'.
[QUOTE=Sleazebum; 1254240]$40. Handshake.
$60. Speak into the mike.
$80. 69.
$100. Full Service.
That is my basic scale. Of course you may drop whatever you feel like you should and I even drop more if the service is far above average at each level.
This is not meant to start another pissing contest over tipping! This is just what I do and maybe can be a guide for newbies who are as stingy as I am.
JJ[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AznCajun; 1253419]Found this on CL and was curious for some time.
[url]http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/2537744705.html[/url]
Haven't heard or seen any reports, so I took the plunge. Maybe there have been reports, but missed it. Very legit place, MMS is nice and took the house fee. 60 at the counter. Was led to the room and asked to undress. Provider, named Laura, came in and asked if I wanted a TS, but it's. 10 extra. However, if you showered yourself, then it's free. Massage was nice, firm, and covered throughout. She is in her mid 30's cute, tall, and non-talkative. No standard NOVA finish offered.
Left unhappy.
AC[/QUOTE]Yep, it is a legit place.
THis is 2nd hand info. But I consider it very reliable.
A plumbing malfunction caused the temporary closure of 4-seasons.
This favorite spa of many of us should be open again by mid-week (say 18-19 August. Maybe sooner)
Be nice!
PA
Been away from AMPs for a while. Thought I'd give it a try again, after a few years of doing other things. Saw girl 5" short, late 20s, with nice trim body, probably A cup. Nice TS, she was a little reluctant with the touching, though, since I was new. Good enough massage, spent about 30 min face down. At the end some light touching and teasing. On the flip she started normal massage and I ask if I can touch. That led to more pleasnt things to happen, like climbing around on the table with lots of mutual touching. But at the end not more than the standard nova finish. After finish, she continued massaging for a while. For me this was a 7 for both looks and service. I wasn't sure what the going rates are now, since the house took. 8, I tipped. 6 (I did feel the attention I got was above AMP average). Maybe that was too much, according to what you guys are saying here. Anyway, I will probably return. The whole experience took about 50 minutes.
Spotted an ad last night on EG for 'Sophia, ' 23, very enticing photo, $.6 / hr. Called to book for 11 am Today. When MMS gave me the location I realized this was none other than the FCCC. Game on. Called at 10:30 a. M, MMS said come over. Did so, called from parking lot, MMS said wait, she would call me back in 5 minutes. She called back, said to wait 5 more minutes. By this time I was getting impatient and starting to sweat from the heat. I said 5 minutes more was all I could wait. Finally got the go-ahead, rode the elevator up to the condo I had been in several times before.
Behind the slowly opening door stood a plain, somewhat pudgy woman, easily over 40. Deal-breaker. I said to her as nicely as I could, I'm sorry, I just can't go through with this. As I turned toward the door, she said wait, there is another girl. Second provider emerges from another room; same story. Again I made my polite apologies and this time I departed. Called MMS from parking lot, said those women were easily over 40 when the ad said 23, they look nothing like the picture. MMS was apologetic, said something about 'the person who put in the ad' screwed up, new provider coming soon. Sure.
As we all know, in this game you always need a backup. I called TCTC, MMS said come on over. Creeping down Route 7 through countless red lights my mood darkened further. Why am I bothering with this, is this my life, WTF? When I finally arrived in the parking lot I had to pee so badly I stepped behind a tree to do it.
When I entered the apartment, everything changed. I am not going to give the provider's name or the usual blow-by-blow, I will just say her beauty, skills, attitude and kindness were on a level I had almost given up hoping to find in this hobby. I practically wanted to cry from happiness.
What can I say brothers, this game is so unpredictable, you just never know.
OMG, I called up the Ad in Eros and I was already skeptical becuz the Chinese spots are more miss then a hit unlike the Koreans. Unfortunately, this was a total miss.
The girl, who I believe is called Helen but works out of a condo off Arlington blvd in Fall Church with Sophia, was a 2 at best and hairy downstairs.
Looks = 1 (43yrs+?)
Body = 1.
Attitude =.1.
Service = 0 (Left in disgust)
Price $.6 (-$.4)
As soon as I started to get close to rubbing her downstairs with my fingers, all the complaints and rules came out. Can't even kiss the neck, no kissing anywhere. Hurry up. No touch there. No touch. Come on. Come on.
This from a 40+yr old woman who was fat and ugly? 5 mins of this complaining and ridiculous mood, I just got fed up and demanded my money back. She says, I take $20 and give you back everything. I said hurry up and give me my money.
Left and called the operator who apologized but says she doesn't know anything about her.
This is my 3rd horrible experience this year and all 3 were Chinese providors. I called other places on eros and BP but as soon as they told me they were Chinese, I just said forget it.
Is this just a coincidence or do others have the same issues with Chinese providers? I would definitely love to experience just 1 great session with a Chinese providor. But it's either been average at best or just bad and at this point I've given up on them.
Listed as Sophia on eros. AVOID!
Ph#: 202-459-7xxx
[QUOTE=Cory James; 1256561]OMG, I called up the Ad in Eros and I was already skeptical becuz the Chinese spots are more miss then a hit unlike the Koreans. Unfortunately, this was a total miss.
The girl, who I believe is called Helen but works out of a condo off Arlington blvd in Fall Church with Sophia, was a 2 at best and hairy downstairs.
Looks = 1 (43yrs+?)
Body = 1.
Attitude =.1.
Service = 0 (Left in disgust)
Price $.6 (-$.4)
As soon as I started to get close to rubbing her downstairs with my fingers, all the complaints and rules came out. Can't even kiss the neck, no kissing anywhere. Hurry up. No touch there. No touch. Come on. Come on.
This from a 40+yr old woman who was fat and ugly? 5 mins of this complaining and ridiculous mood, I just got fed up and demanded my money back. She says, I take $20 and give you back everything. I said hurry up and give me my money.
Left and called the operator who apologized but says she doesn't know anything about her.
This is my 3rd horrible experience this year and all 3 were Chinese providors. I called other places on eros and BP but as soon as they told me they were Chinese, I just said forget it.
Is this just a coincidence or do others have the same issues with Chinese providers? I would definitely love to experience just 1 great session with a Chinese providor. But it's either been average at best or just bad and at this point I've given up on them.
Listed as Sophia on eros. AVOID!
Ph#: 202-459-7xxx[/QUOTE]For some fucking reason this made me crack up as I thought about all the shitty quality or dubious (dangerous) Chinese products imported into the US. I use to think of this as the crap you buy in Wal-Mart but this post made me realize it extends to the very women themselves! LOL. Stick to Korean for decent quality and Japanese for impeccable quality.
I cannot believe that after all the times I have posted the correct number for the BEST Chinese Condo that you fools will continue to go off after the skags that advertise!
I suppose stupidity has NO BOUNDS!
So. If you want the number of the one you should have called then RTFF! RTFF and you will never go wrong!
SHEESH!
Or. If you PM me and admit to being a flaming dumbass I might give you the number that way.
JJ
[QUOTE=Cory James; 1256561]OMG, I called up the Ad in Eros and I was already skeptical becuz the Chinese spots are more miss then a hit unlike the Koreans. Unfortunately, this was a total miss.
The girl, who I believe is called Helen but works out of a condo off Arlington blvd in Fall Church with Sophia, was a 2 at best and hairy downstairs.
Looks = 1 (43yrs+?)
Body = 1.
Attitude =.1.
Service = 0 (Left in disgust)
Price $.6 (-$.4)
As soon as I started to get close to rubbing her downstairs with my fingers, all the complaints and rules came out. Can't even kiss the neck, no kissing anywhere. Hurry up. No touch there. No touch. Come on. Come on.
This from a 40+yr old woman who was fat and ugly? 5 mins of this complaining and ridiculous mood, I just got fed up and demanded my money back. She says, I take $20 and give you back everything. I said hurry up and give me my money.
Left and called the operator who apologized but says she doesn't know anything about her.
This is my 3rd horrible experience this year and all 3 were Chinese providors. I called other places on eros and BP but as soon as they told me they were Chinese, I just said forget it.
Is this just a coincidence or do others have the same issues with Chinese providers? I would definitely love to experience just 1 great session with a Chinese providor. But it's either been average at best or just bad and at this point I've given up on them.
Listed as Sophia on eros. AVOID!
Ph#: 202-459-7xxx[/QUOTE]
So, what's up at Four Seasons?
JJ
Have been a regular at MWC for the past year. I've tried other places in the area but I always come back to MWC. Would really like to see Julie come back but have been very happy with Penny. Standard Rates and never any hassle for upsale. Because of the assigned parking, I know before climbing the stairs if the place will be busy.