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Great post, not just for newbies but seasoned guys as well.

As you said, be relaxed and friendly, and treat the girl nicely and with respect. WeChat and Google Translate help you to stay in contact with the girls.

Strange as it may seem, its sometimes more fun doing things with a non-pro. In Chicago I'd go to foot massage places, develop a rapport and then see them on their days off.

One other point, a philosophical thing, I prefer to talk about how to get extras in general, rather than describing a specific girl since that can easily get a girl fired. Most owners read these posts.

Bob.

[QUOTE=JohnGSmith;5349934]I've mostly been in the Sugar Bowl the last 7-8 years, but I still enjoy partaking MPs every now and then, and I definitely enjoy the challenge and mystery of getting Extras in not so obvious places.

Here are some of my Tips.

1. Figure out your own "Groove". Meaning if you're a lady's man and you're playfully direct (like Bob) then you can go that route. If you're funny guy, use your humor. If you're a nice guy, be nice.

2. That said, you can never go wrong being a "nice guy" all things being equal. This means smiling, be polite, and respectful. Showing kindness and graciousness goes a LONG way with these women. I would say 8 out of 10 girls always remark how nice and respectful I am.

3. Don't be loud. Meaning when you greet and talk with her in the lobby and have small chit-chat in the room, keep your voice to a confident but low and easy volume. These girls don't like attracting a lot of attention in general, so loud laughs and such is going to make them nervous. Also they're going to be less likely to talk and be flirty with you if every word you say is like a bull-horn.

4. Unless you can pull it off playfully, don't be aggressive or pushy, ESPECIALLY on your first visit. If you grabher ass and she quickly pulls away take the hint. And even when she does let you lightly grope, don't overdo it. Massage her leg for 20 seconds or so when she's in a convenient position and then just gradually stop. You're giving her signals, but she still feels in control and you also give off a "respectful" and "controlled" vibe. And if you ask for a CBJ and she declines, just let it go. And if she's over-charging you on a HJ like. 8 then just politely decline. Don't get angry.

5. You're probably wondering why most of these tips so far relate to being a "nice" and other basics rather than some secret technique to get the Hidden Menu. But what these things do is make her COMFORTABLE. Once she feels fully comfortable around you, then you've taken the first major step to getting the Hidden Menu.

6. The next step is showing that you have the potential to be a good regular. Providers love regulars. So if you have a good session on your first visit with the girl, you MUST visit and see her again within a week. So it's important that you get her name at the beginning of the session and then towards the end of the session, ask for her schedule. You need to try hard to see her again, instead of a different girl. If you get a different girl this soon, you're back at square one. So follow-up within a week if you can. You don't want to over-tip (that makes you a sucker), but as others have said tipping 10 or 20 over the usual amount is good because it means she'll see you as valuable customer above the random walk-in. Eventually you'll get your money's worth as well.

7. Once you've made her "comfortable" and you've established yourself as a"regular", this is when you start making your moves. Just remember both comfort and being a regular is important. Just being a regular isn't enough because women have regulars that they absolutely hate. They'll do the minimum or just enough to get hem off and out as fast as possible. If a girl is giving you a mechanical or jack-hammer HJ with barely any eye-contact, giggling, or flirting then you probably haven't got her into a comfort zone. Granted, many of these girls do kind of go on auto-pilot and glaze over when giving extras, but you should be able to tell when a girl is trying to make you "happy" versus just trying to get you"off". Often times their behavior right after you cum is a great indicator. If they're very talkative or smiling, and attentiveness to you then they're probably comfortable with you. But if they kind of shutdown and quickly end the rest of the massage after the hot towel, then they probably see you as John #2389 and you're not there yet.

8. The original question was how to get extras beyond a standard HJ and minimal touching. So once you you've establish comfort and a regular, then start with under the clothes action. This is where your. 60 comes in handy. Since you're already giving 10-20 above the usual, the girl will likely feel obligated to let you cop an extra feel. You want to try to touch bare skin whether it's her ass or tits. Usually the ass is a bit easier because of positioning and the type of bra the girl is wearing. BUT don't immediately start trying to stick her fingers in her. Don't do anything invasive because that will likely take her out of her comfort zone. Take it slow at first. After the 3rd or so time doing this, you can lightly graze her magic box to take a temperature of where you're at but take it easy. But remember #3. If you're making very loud moans and noises just from a HJ and under clothes action, she'll be afraid to give you anything more because you blaring like a siren will draw too much attention.

9. Once you've gotten some under the clothes action, NOW is the time to start seeing a couple of the other girls in the AMP. Why? Girls are competitive. See another girl, the same girl for two visits or so. And it's important for the first girl know that you've seen someone else. The first girl may not show outwardly, she will get a little jealous and wonder what extras you're getting with the other girl. While these girls do talk about customers to each other, they are coy about what they do with each customer. I noticed this during a 4 hand massage. Individually I had practically disrobed each girl with my hands going everywhere I wanted with tons of dirty talk, but during the 4 hand, it was a straight HJ with zero touching under the clothes. I thought it was going to be the greatest massage ever but it ended up being the worst. It was like neither girl wanted to reveal what they did with me to the other. So the details of what goes on in a room with a girl is a bit of a black box so use that to your advantage.

10. Return to the first girl and try now to push the boundaries one notch up. If you did well, then she will likely allow you to do more vigorous touching. She wants to assert that you are HER regular. So she WANTS to make you happy and satisfied. From here you can feel out the vibe and you can determine what new extras you want to request. If you want to make the leap to BJ make sure you have the appropriate tip ready. Also when requesting a completely new or Hidden Menu item like that, try to schedule your appointment for an off hour when it's not busy or slow days. At some AMPs some girls may only see one or two customers on a very slow day, so if you see them on those days they'll be more amenable to Hidden Menu items for a good tip. If you can't go on a slow day, try schedule before closing or at the opening. Whatever time where they don't feel rushed.

Even if you do all these things, it just may not be possible to get FS from a HJ girl. The rooms / office / table just may not facilitate it or the girl just thinks it's too risky. And this does take time, it could take anywhere from 4-12 visits to get the Hidden Menu. But that's part of the fun, the challenge and uncertainty of it all. These tips though should most certainly get you to a minimum of some under clothes touching even with the shyest girl. Again, she has to be comfortable with you. If she's never comfortable with you, it's never going to happen.

And finally once you do access the Hidden Menu at a HJ-only AMP, be very cautious with sharing intel about it on public and review boards. If "Jenny" is suddenly getting dozens of guys (many of them not gentlemen) asking for her to blow or fuck them, then she's going to be very upset and may rip up her Hidden menu to you or worse she may get fired if her boss or other girls see reviews or get a surge of FS requests. So keep your hidden gem to yourself or only share it via PM with trusted members who know how to cultivate a relationship with a provider. If the girl moves on and no longer works there or it seems more / all girls at the AMP are providing extras beyond teasing / HJ then you're probably safe to review or post about her. I know we love to share information but these girls are trying to make a livelihood or pay the bills, so don't get them in trouble. Also if a girl sees a fellow provider getting shamed or fired because she gave BJ / FS then that girl is less likely to risk offering Hidden Menu items to you. If the girls are afraid, they are less likely to do anything. So the less we burn girls, the less fear there will be, and the better chance you have at finding hidden gems. You can drop subtle hints about a place without putting girls on blast.[/QUOTE]

I've gotten a few requests to post reviews. I'm currently in a somewhat long-term arrangement with a sugar baby, but she's in the middle of finals right now and prepping for graduation. Understandably we've been seeing each other little bit less lately, but hey a guy has needs! So for the past few weeks I've been getting up to speed with the AMP scene here in the NC. I've hit the jackpot at a couple of places, but I kinda want to finish a full census of the area before I give a more thorough report. It's going to take a little longer than expected because as mentioned earlier one girl is texting me daily and I got to give her repeat visits or see her outside of work.

I will say FS is definitely back in the NC AMPs after a very long absence. I haven't found FS in a place that hasn't already been reported here, but I can confirm their reports The biggest downside is that all the places that had FS were in VERY visible areas. This makes me nervous in going to those places and also reporting in detail about those places. Oceanside and Vista are not shy about AMP busts and I'm worried if these places have a high volume of foot traffic, it's going to get noticed easily by locals & prudes. It's honestly why I don't really recommend going to these places. I think the owners picked really bad spots to offer regular FS. Pick a quiet or rundown shopping outlet, but these places in Oceanside are in highly visible redeveloped areas, LOL. Won't be long for the noise and public nuisance complaints, followed by Vice.

So right now I have some more low-key supposedly HJ-only AMPs on my survey list. They're in quieter locations of Oceanside / Vista / Carlsbad and might be able to fish out additional extras without all the visibility. When I'm done, I'll make a report, but similar to Bob I won't be giving an overly detailed report on specifics about the girls for their protection. I'll leave enough clues so seasoned vets can piece it together and newbies who are willing to do research to have a chance.. But I'm not going to put these girls on a silver platter for every random considering how tenuous the AMP scene has traditionally been in the north county. We have to practice "sustainability" up here, LOL. This ain't Kearny Mesa.

Wife does not know about girlfriend or the spa. I actually gave her the SPA in Chicago (technically for IRS gift tax reasons, I made her a loan). Will do the same thing here in California. I've been visiting the spas in Temecula asking if they want to sell. Needs to be a Legit SPA because she is a legit masseuse. Super strong deep tissue massage. 5 ft tall and 90 pounds. Eventually we'll be looking for massage workers (who want to go legit).

Bob.

[QUOTE=JWalker350;5352281]I think he bought a spa and let his girlfriend runs it without his wife knowing.[/QUOTE]

I live in Temecula and there are quite a few places. Like you I try to stay low key and I don't post much in Temecula because I don't want to get noticed. A place that used to be called Transcend, now called Su's might fit your criteria. It's out of the way. There are some good posts in Inland Empire, or put "Temecula" in your search. Consider Oasis, 5-Star- I think that's the name, Mimi's. The city is actively trying to shut down places. Used to be 70 and now its down to 30 spas left. But as I said I am not actively frequenting places since we're try to buy one. Wouldn't look good to get outed as a customer of a place my girlfriend and I are trying to buy.

Bob.

[QUOTE=JohnGSmith;5354059]I've gotten a few requests to post reviews. I'm currently in a somewhat long-term arrangement with a sugar baby, but she's in the middle of finals right now and prepping for graduation. Understandably we've been seeing each other little bit less lately, but hey a guy has needs! So for the past few weeks I've been getting up to speed with the AMP scene here in the NC. I've hit the jackpot at a couple of places, but I kinda want to finish a full census of the area before I give a more thorough report. It's going to take a little longer than expected because as mentioned earlier one girl is texting me daily and I got to give her repeat visits.

I will say FS is definitely back in the NC AMPs after a very long absence. I haven't found FS in a place that hasn't already been reported here, but I can confirm their reports The biggest downside is that all the places that had FS were in VERY visible areas. This makes me nervous in going to those places and also reporting in detail about those places. Oceanside and Vista are not shy about AMP busts and I'm worried if these places have a high volume of foot traffic, it's going to get noticed easily by locals & prudes. It's honestly why I don't really recommend going to these places. I think the owners picked really bad spots to offer regular FS. Pick a quiet or rundown shopping outlet, but these places in Oceanside are in highly visible redeveloped areas, LOL. Won't be long for the noise and public nuisance complaints, followed by Vice.

So right now I have some more low-key supposedly HJ-only AMPs on my survey list. They're in quieter locations of Oceanside / Vista / Carlsbad and might be able to fish out additional extras without all the visibility.[/QUOTE]

Hey community what in your opinion is the best FS MP I want a somewhat younger / MILF, looking for big tits / big ass, and looking for FS and for the best rate as possible. I will drop my review here after that's in advance.

Mr. Dickerdown.

So, I decided to give this place a try on Friday after work to relieve some stress. I had mildly nice lotion massage with Mimi 60/ .5 hr HF and 1.4 Tip, she was very pretty, petite and tone body, bolt-ons a little firm.

She asked where it hurt, I said everything. She was very giving of and extremely passionate about her Job on me, roaming hands permissible. I did not have FS, I did not get CBJ because that is a no no, gigity gigity. Wink!

After, I got introduced to another girl there, forgot her name, that was just as pretty. Ages are 30's - 40's, but both look young with those tight body's.

One of the better AMPs overall that I have been to in awhile in regards to lady choice. I do recommend! Happing Hunting.

[QUOTE=Mrdickerdown;5354426]Hey community what in your opinion is the best FS MP I want a somewhat younger / MILF, looking for big tits / big ass, and looking for FS and for the best rate as possible. I will drop my review here after that's in advance.

Mr. Dickerdown.[/QUOTE]The lady from Wildflower sounds like the body type you are looking for.

[URL]https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/wildflower-day-spa-san-diego-3[/URL]

IDK if it is full service though.

[QUOTE=JohnGSmith;5351141]Yep this is true. I'm a minority and I've experienced this first-hand.

That' said, I haven't had any issues in years. Why is that? Because it's pretty easy to overcome. Follow the "nice guy" tips I posted below and also make sure you are clean-cut, smell good / fresh, and dress nicely. And by speaking in a low calm voice, I usually already have the girl at ease by the time I step into the room. I usually don't like putting the tip out at the beginning because I feel it limits me, especially when I'm trying a new place or new girl. But during the course of the massage when she's willing to give me "extras" and she wants the tip upfront, I oblige with no questions asked. On subsequent visits they usually don't ask for the tip upfront anymore.

There's definitely discrimination, but it can be overcome and there are surprises out there. Once a girl gets comfortable with you sometimes being certain ethnicities can play to your advantage because some of these girls are curious. To illustrate my point, just this week I want to a north county AMP that had FS. It was my first time there and I got this extremely attractive girl in her late 20's / early 30's. I got the full menu right off the bat at the standard rate, she was giggling / smiling the whole time, and afterward she wanted to exchange numbers. We've been texting each other (with the help of Google Translate, LOL) the last several days. She wants me to take her out for dinner, but she doesn't want to get in trouble with her boss so she's trying to find a good time to sneak out, LOL. Not sure if anything is going to come from it and I don't want to get her in trouble, but at minimum I can easily schedule an appointment at the AMP with this hot young Chinese girl who will treat me like a king. Being clean cut, a nice guy with no incessant haggling will get you in the game even if you're a minority that typically faces discrimination in these places.[/QUOTE]You nailed it bro. Take out is the best because they want to have fun too and they can't make noise or risk getting fired. It is actually pretty hard to keep quite and the beds from banging against the wall and they take a lot of risk. You also mentioned something dead-on, once they're comfortable, you only need to put the tip up front if they think you're going to screw them over. It's always better to tip afterwards (except when you get a negative reaction and discriminated against from a known solid provider, then tip on the table the first time assuages their fear).

You sound like a gentleman, I look forward to hearing how your date goes with that young hottle. I'll have to add the 'low, calm voice' to my repertoire, haven't tried channeling Barry White. You know you're a pro when you can get the full menu on the first go while beating racial stereotypes. Right on brother!

Went to Osaka, paid. 5 hh for a very lackluster massage. But my girl was fun and funny. Kept spanking me, making me laugh, whispering in my ear, etc. Halfway through she asked me to flip, saw my junior, and started off on a HE. I asked her how much for FS, she said they don't do FS, but I pressed and she asked 1. 5. She was a bit younger, probably early 40's at most, but fit as a fiddle. Paid up, and then had a good time. Bare with a CP to finish. Amazing. After we were done, she cleaned me up, and told me to come back before she leaves. Probably will since I had a grand ol' time. Had to be extremely quiet but she let me suck on her tits to quiet me down.

[QUOTE=NudeBeachPerv;5355003]The lady from Wildflower sounds like the body type you are looking for.

[URL]https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/wildflower-day-spa-san-diego-3[/URL]

IDK if it is full service though.[/QUOTE]Its not. I can get CBJ from her, but took more than one visit, she promised more extras if I visited more LOL, I thought that included FS eventually but nah never happened. She's kinda my type though so I was ok visiting a few times, her HJ is pretty bad though just typical jackhammer, CBJ is ok but I don't think you get it from first visit, also bring your own rubber.

Checked out Ocean Spa today. Did 60 for hour. Vivian is cute. Good ass, good books with long nipples. (Autocorrect doesn't think that's a word, wants to make it nippers haha). She gave a good massage, but knows almost no English. Don't try small talk. Allowed OTC during the massage, playfully slapped my hand if I tried anything else.

On the flip, asked what I want. 200 for BBBJ, CFS in lots of positions. Wasnt good at faking. Not saying she didn't try, just isn't good at it. Also did everything really fast. CW humping like crazy, etc. Tits are good, ass good, pussy good. Hides her baby damage by leaving her mini-dress over her middle.

Overall won't repeat. Better out there for less $.

Stay safe.

Going to do some exploring tomorrow in the Mira Mesa / Convoy / Poway area. Any hidden talent recently at Lusk / Mrc? I will be checking in tomorrow and wanted to see if there was any heads up about the talent there. I know they have a few new ladies there so I am excited to try and leave you guys a review. The same with lusk. Lmk if you guys have any recommendations. Only going to be around this area. Thanks in advance Mongers!

Hey all-.

I already posted the question on the Las Vegas MP board, but thought I'll ask here as well just in case some of you were there recently.

I will be visiting Las Vegas next month and will be staying on the strip. My buddy and I are looking for some AMPs to visit. We are not necessarily looking for FS AMPs, preferred non-FS actually that has younger girls, gives good massage, offers nice and sensual ending / release and allow mutual touching or reverse massage play. Any recommendations is greatly appreciated. We are willing to drive up to 15-30 minutes from our hotel. Thank you!

In this hobby we're all interested in getting more bang for our buck, and I'll point out one more thing we should think about. Do you know if your ass crack and balls stink like sweat, musk, and rotten farts?

I prefer to go my AMP right after my daily shower. I try to make it early in the day so I know I'm clean and smell fucking great all over. Some of you shower there before your massage to make sure she knows you are clean, and that is a great strategy too.

But what if you've been working all day and go to your AMP later in day or even later that night closer to closing? Some of you even hit the spas after some time in the bars. Well let me tell you, even if you have not taken a crap, or shit your pants, there is a good chance your ass and balls stink because of all those misty, sweaty farts that you have enjoyed all day!

To give a massage, she has to hover over and around your ass a long time, so you want this to be pleasant for her. You'll probably want some teasing, exploring on her part, and maybe even some ass crack play depending on your desires. Make sure she's isn't smelling shit and afraid of touching crap.

This is especially true if you have taken a dump after your shower. Then you absolutely need to wash your ass before going. Assuming you do wipe your ass, you'll still have clear out all the little toilet tissue cling-ons that are unbeknownst to you, stuck to your ass hairs hidden in your crack. Minimally you need to "wash your ass with soap and water" before you bare all to the woman you want to give you a great time.

There has been a lot of great tips given to newbies in this hobby lately. Hygiene has been mentioned many times, but we should also consider the effects of good grooming too. Grooming as in man-scaping or body hair management. I'm fairly well-groomed in general but this includes down by my junk (I have no intentions of sharing any more detail than that). But this is another hint to my masseuse that I'm into more fun than just a massage. We know, they check us out head to toe, and especially our Johnson, so standing or lying there clean, smelling nice, and well-groomed gives her a more positive impression, and I think makes us more touchable. And you can take my word for it or not, the less hair down there, the easier it is to be clean.

What makes me an authority on ass crack stench and groin grooming practices? Nothing really, but one day I arranged an uncommonly late afternoon visit with one of my favorites, and luckily for me I stripped down alone. Dropping my drawers with my usual confidence, I immediately noticed my ass stunk like a sewer. I was stunned because I'm a "clean" guy, and I had showered after I had taken my daily dump. But that day I remembered I had been farting constantly, and freely. I forgot what I ate but it was likely the burritos and beer from the night before. It was those mighty, misty fragrant farts throughout the day that fouled up my shorts, balls, and ass crack.

To remedy this immediate emergency, I grabbed the robe hanging there, and headed to the rest room. Once there I went to work with some fine flowery smelling hand soap to clean up Johnny and the boys and then detoxed the entire neighborhood. With the disaster averted I had my usual happy ending with my favorite, and learned a valuable lesson.

If you think this post if a bunch of crap, the next time you go for a massage after a long day, before she comes in, spread your cheeks wide and run your ringers along your own bare sweaty ass crack down to your balls, rub them around a little, and then smell them. What do you think? Roses, or dead skunk?

Even if somehow you don't think your ass (and balls) stink, in truth, the opinion of your odorous condition is really up to her. If she thinks you stink, guess what, you stink. I recommend being clean, well-groomed, and smelling as good as possible.

To get more bang for your buck, never trust a fart and keep your ass clean.

Bon Chance, happy scrubbing.

Visited Wspa this after noon. Paid for a 30 minutes service. I was there for a sucky sucky and it was delivered correctly by Tina. But before me, there was a dude in the other room who didn't want to pay Tina the service she delivered. She was disappointed and told the dude to not comeback ever again. I will visit this place from time to time. Wzrd94 approves this place!

Invest on safemoon and bonfire coins.

[QUOTE=AmpWangLei;5356587]In this hobby we're all interested in getting more bang for our buck, and I'll point out one more thing we should think about. Do you know if your ass crack and balls stink like sweat, musk, and rotten farts?

I prefer to go my AMP right after my daily shower. I try to make it early in the day so I know I'm clean and smell fucking great all over. Some of you shower there before your massage to make sure she knows you are clean, and that is a great strategy too.

But what if you've been working all day and go to your AMP later in day or even later that night closer to closing? Some of you even hit the spas after some time in the bars. Well let me tell you, even if you have not taken a crap, or shit your pants, there is a good chance your ass and balls stink because of all those misty, sweaty farts that you have enjoyed all day!

To give a massage, she has to hover over and around your ass a long time, so you want this to be pleasant for her. You'll probably want some teasing, exploring on her part, and maybe even some ass crack play depending on your desires. Make sure she's isn't smelling shit and afraid of touching crap.

This is especially true if you have taken a dump after your shower. Then you absolutely need to wash your ass before going. Assuming you do wipe your ass, you'll still have clear out all the little toilet tissue cling-ons that are unbeknownst to you, stuck to your ass hairs hidden in your crack. Minimally you need to "wash your ass with soap and water" before you bare all to the woman you want to give you a great time.

There has been a lot of great tips given to newbies in this hobby lately. Hygiene has been mentioned many times, but we should also consider the effects of good grooming too. Grooming as in man-scaping or body hair management. I'm fairly well-groomed in general but this includes down by my junk (I have no intentions of sharing any more detail than that). But this is another hint to my masseuse that I'm into more fun than just a massage. We know, they check us out head to toe, and especially our Johnson, so standing or lying there clean, smelling nice, and well-groomed gives her a more positive impression, and I think makes us more touchable. And you can take my word for it or not, the less hair down there, the easier it is to be clean.

What makes me an authority on ass crack stench and groin grooming practices? Nothing really, but one day I arranged an uncommonly late afternoon visit with one of my favorites, and luckily for me I stripped down alone. Dropping my drawers with my usual confidence, I immediately noticed my ass stunk like a sewer. I was stunned because I'm a "clean" guy, and I had showered after I had taken my daily dump. But that day I remembered I had been farting constantly, and freely. I forgot what I ate but it was likely the burritos and beer from the night before. It was those mighty, misty fragrant farts throughout the day that fouled up my shorts, balls, and ass crack.

To remedy this immediate emergency, I grabbed the robe hanging there, and headed to the rest room. Once there I went to work with some fine flowery smelling hand soap to clean up Johnny and the boys and then detoxed the entire neighborhood. With the disaster averted I had my usual happy ending with my favorite, and learned a valuable lesson.

If you think this post if a bunch of crap, the next time you go for a massage after a long day, before she comes in, spread your cheeks wide and run your ringers along your own bare sweaty ass crack down to your balls, rub them around a little, and then smell them. What do you think? Roses, or dead skunk?

Even if somehow you don't think your ass (and balls) stink, in truth, the opinion of your odorous condition is really up to her. If she thinks you stink, guess what, you stink. I recommend being clean, well-groomed, and smelling as good as possible.

To get more bang for your buck, never trust a fart and keep your ass clean.

Bon Chance, happy scrubbing.[/QUOTE]When you're young never trust an orgasm and never waste a fart. When you're old never waste an orgasm and never trust a fart.

[QUOTE=Wzrd94;5357064]Visited Wspa this after noon. Paid for a 30 minutes service. I was there for a sucky sucky and it was delivered correctly by Tina. But before me, there was a dude in the other room who didn't want to pay Tina the service she delivered. She was disappointed and told the dude to not comeback ever again. I will visit this place from time to time. Wzrd94 approves this place!

Invest on safemoon and bonfire coins.[/QUOTE]Is this JW SPA?

[QUOTE=AmpWangLei;5356587]In this hobby we're all interested in getting more bang for our buck, and I'll point out one more thing we should think about. Do you know if your ass crack and balls stink like sweat, musk, and rotten farts?

I prefer to go my AMP right after my daily shower. I try to make it early in the day so I know I'm clean and smell fucking great all over. Some of you shower there before your massage to make sure she knows you are clean, and that is a great strategy too.

But what if you've been working all day and go to your AMP later in day or even later that night closer to closing? Some of you even hit the spas after some time in the bars. Well let me tell you, even if you have not taken a crap, or shit your pants, there is a good chance your ass and balls stink because of all those misty, sweaty farts that you have enjoyed all day!

To give a massage, she has to hover over and around your ass a long time, so you want this to be pleasant for her. You'll probably want some teasing, exploring on her part, and maybe even some ass crack play depending on your desires. Make sure she's isn't smelling shit and afraid of touching crap.

This is especially true if you have taken a dump after your shower. Then you absolutely need to wash your ass before going. Assuming you do wipe your ass, you'll still have clear out all the little toilet tissue cling-ons that are unbeknownst to you, stuck to your ass hairs hidden in your crack. Minimally you need to "wash your ass with soap and water" before you bare all to the woman you want to give you a great time.[/QUOTE]Wow, that's funny. Perhaps there should be a hygiene forum?

I seen this place on RR I think I looked at Rmaps and it had some reviews so I found some time to check it out. Its definitely out of site an an office complex, so if you need discretion this is a good spot. I get in pay for the hhr, I asked for the hr but she recommended the hhr. I get it, lets pump as many of us suckers through as possible. Anyway, get in the room and its dark, like really dark. I lay ther 3 or 4 minutes and she comes back in and does a little rub, it feels good. I rub on her legs and little ass go let her know I'm safe. She has me turnover and not that my eyes have adjusted I can see the wither mask on she's cute. I'd guess late 30's thin and fit. Small ass and a large A cup orsmall b. She is playful. She rubs my front a little bit and teases the twig and berries. I'm at full mast and she asks what I want, we settle with FS for 1. 4. A little oral inspection and she bends over the massage table then we switch to standing mish. She's loud and don't care if she's heard. I deposit in the bag. She gets me water and as I leave she said her name was cici (I know, very unique) and to come see her again. Good time. I'd repeat if there werent so many options here in San Diego.

[URL]https://sandiego.rubratings.com/212533[/URL]

[QUOTE=AmpWangLei;5356587]In this hobby we're all interested in getting more bang for our buck, and I'll point out one more thing we should think about. Do you know if your ass crack and balls stink like sweat, musk, and rotten farts?

I prefer to go my AMP right after my daily shower. I try to make it early in the day so I know I'm clean and smell fucking great all over. Some of you shower there before your massage to make sure she knows you are clean, and that is a great strategy too.

But what if you've been working all day and go to your AMP later in day or even later that night closer to closing? Some of you even hit the spas after some time in the bars. Well let me tell you, even if you have not taken a crap, or shit your pants, there is a good chance your ass and balls stink because of all those misty, sweaty farts that you have enjoyed all day!

To give a massage, she has to hover over and around your ass a long time, so you want this to be pleasant for her. You'll probably want some teasing, exploring on her part, and maybe even some ass crack play depending on your desires. Make sure she's isn't smelling shit and afraid of touching crap.

This is especially true if you have taken a dump after your shower. Then you absolutely need to wash your ass before going. Assuming you do wipe your ass, you'll still have clear out all the little toilet tissue cling-ons that are unbeknownst to you, stuck to your ass hairs hidden in your crack. Minimally you need to "wash your ass with soap and water" before you bare all to the woman you want to give you a great time.

There has been a lot of great tips given to newbies in this hobby lately. Hygiene has been mentioned many times, but we should also consider the effects of good grooming too. Grooming as in man-scaping or body hair management. I'm fairly well-groomed in general but this includes down by my junk (I have no intentions of sharing any more detail than that). But this is another hint to my masseuse that I'm into more fun than just a massage. We know, they check us out head to toe, and especially our Johnson, so standing or lying there clean, smelling nice, and well-groomed gives her a more positive impression, and I think makes us more touchable. And you can take my word for it or not, the less hair down there, the easier it is to be clean.

What makes me an authority on ass crack stench and groin grooming practices? Nothing really, but one day I arranged an uncommonly late afternoon visit with one of my favorites, and luckily for me I stripped down alone. Dropping my drawers with my usual confidence, I immediately noticed my ass stunk like a sewer. I was stunned because I'm a "clean" guy, and I had showered after I had taken my daily dump. But that day I remembered I had been farting constantly, and freely. I forgot what I ate but it was likely the burritos and beer from the night before. It was those mighty, misty fragrant farts throughout the day that fouled up my shorts, balls, and ass crack.

To remedy this immediate emergency, I grabbed the robe hanging there, and headed to the rest room. Once there I went to work with some fine flowery smelling hand soap to clean up Johnny and the boys and then detoxed the entire neighborhood. With the disaster averted I had my usual happy ending with my favorite, and learned a valuable lesson.

If you think this post if a bunch of crap, the next time you go for a massage after a long day, before she comes in, spread your cheeks wide and run your ringers along your own bare sweaty ass crack down to your balls, rub them around a little, and then smell them. What do you think? Roses, or dead skunk?

Even if somehow you don't think your ass (and balls) stink, in truth, the opinion of your odorous condition is really up to her. If she thinks you stink, guess what, you stink. I recommend being clean, well-groomed, and smelling as good as possible.

To get more bang for your buck, never trust a fart and keep your ass clean.

Bon Chance, happy scrubbing.[/QUOTE]

Great post! I clean my ass crack and nuts before the start of each session. I carry hand sanitizer and flushable wipes with me and use the restroom before my sessions. Having good hygiene will get you lots of extra menu options (BLS, etc...) at FS or non-FS AMPs when girls can smell that you are fresh. LOL.

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5357602]I go to AMPs weekly and am starting to hear there being more Aholes not paying or wanting to pay girls for the services they delivered. One masseuse that I sometimes see told me a "younger " dude went in their shop and asked for her by name so she assumed he's been there before. After she massaged him and provided a HE the guy said he forgot to bring money for tips and needed to go to the ATM. Guy never returned with her tip. What a fuckin cheap ass! Because of these Aholes are why girls are starting to ask for tips upfront which we know kills the mood. Become a trusting and respectful customer and you will be treated like king.[/QUOTE]That is good excuse for asking tip upfront. She can just ask her customers to show the cash in the wallet.

3rd time here looking for the elusive Coco in my search for busty Asian providers. The two times prior I walked in unannounced to be unlucky. This time I called and requested Coco before my arrival. Wendy walks up in a pink dress that was very revealing of her small chest presenting her self as Coco. I paid for and hour and asked her if she was sure she was CoCo and she reinforced her position. I've never seen Wendy before and decided to let it happen she was respectably cute. Massage was pretty innocent while on my chest however very serious and CMT like. She found all my kinks and knots and worked them out. At the 40 minute mark she switched to sensual mode and got me hard before flipping me. On the flip she gives me the stare and tickles my 11th finger. I tell her I don't think your Coco and she giggles. I motion for BJ to which she fires $120. I don't like the back and forth of haggling and wanted the BJ pretty bad and so I agreed but won't be back since I was lied to and $120 for a BJ is probably something I'd only pay Coco for. I also threw in that Wendy get completely naked to which she was okay with and she sits on my face while she covers me up and blows me to finish line. When she pulled her dress off to reveal her B tits I told her that she definitely isn't Coco to which she giggled her name is Wendy. Overall everything about Wendy was above average and fantastic outside of her price for CBJ and moral flexibility. After clean up I saw a 45-55 year old lady on my way out that I've also had in the same pink dress but also a smaller chest. Until I hear solid confirmation Coco is back, I won't be back.

Long time lurker, first time poster! I'm not the most active in the AMP scene, but here are a few experiences I have had. All were 1 hr sessions.

KS Spa- first place I ever went, about two years ago. I went back about 1. 5 yrs ago and had the same experience. 40/40 IIRC and the providers were late 30's / early 40's. Yoga pants with armor up top. OTC touching only. I got good massages and acceptable HE both times. Don't feel the need to go back.

Convoy massage- probably 2 yrs ago now. 40/40. I got a larger, but young chick who was very shy. OTC touching only. Great technique, lots of teasing. Good ending. I would think it would be more fun with a less shy provider.

Convoy massage and body care- 1. 5 yrs ago. 40/40. Standard experience. Pretty, young chick, limited access. She actually asked me to not touch her until the HE portion because it interfered with her ability to massage. That is pride in one's work! It wasn't awkward and I appreciated her saying it.

Z's- 3 x, at least 1. 5 yrs ago. Don't remember the chick I had the first time, Eva once, then Anna and an unnamed helper just for the HE portion. 40/40 except for the 40/80 for the tandem HE. First chick was good, Eva was awesome, and Anna was kind of lackluster. But she did shove her tits in my face and stare me down while the other chick finished me off. So that was really cool.

Diamond (La Mesa) - 1. 5 yrs ago. 40/40, Eva. She is so great. Standard high quality massage and continual grabbing of my hands to put them on her. I asked for a Russian finish and she obliged.

Aria- about a month ago. 100/90. Idk her name. Early 40's I'd guess. No ass, nice rack, acted young. She put her tongue on, and slightly in, my back exit without me asking or discussing. That was pretty neat. On the flip, she stripped and negotiations began. I was excused for not bringing enough money on my first visit. Honestly, had I known the price structure, I would not have gone in the first place. HF+160 is apparently the expectation. Anyway, got a CBJ and lasted all of 10 seconds. Haha. I guess that made up for my lack of funds.

I will post some other reviews on the Independent forum. Thanks to those who share information!

I forgot to mention Heavenly Hands. I kind of considered them not a true AMP, but anyway. Went twice. Really great service both times with the full nude and body slide option. Those were great body rubs too. No shyness, full views, maximum contact. Had a chick named Giselle the second time. Australian chick, super hot. Both times I went, they had the milking tables. Now THAT was a sensation. Extra blood rushing to where you wanted it, no need to awkwardly lift your hips to grant access while face down, etc. I am pretty unclear on what happened to HH or those tables. It looked like there was an attempt to keep it going for a bit, but it seems to have faded into obscurity. I have never heard of anyone else with one.

Also I meant to apologize for not contributing for so long. And again, thanks to those who do.

[QUOTE=NamotuMan1;5331157]Was on my way to grab dinner at Sombrero on Mission Gorge when I noticed a massage "Grand Opening" sign right across the street on Vandever. It's in a tiny, 2-story strip mall complex called Majestic Center. Located on the ground floor in the same suite where I've previously had accupuncture done. The vibe is definitely different now. I walked in and met Ivy. Tall, thin, probably late 30's. Who wore a t-shirt and denim miniskirt, no mask when she met me but she put one on for the massage. She's pretty cute. She took my $60 HF for one hour and showed me to a huge room with a massage table and two couches. She left while I got undressed and laid on the table. When she came back, she draped me in a sheet and did a good pre-massage with lots of pressure. She even laid on my back full-length and applied pressure that way. Never experienced that before but it felt pretty good. Then the sheet came off, the oil went on and she gave a great massage while checking in often (in a soft, whispery voice) about the pressure and whether I was feeling OK. Very minimal teasing while face down before she left to get a hot towel. After the wipe down she did a little teasing before turning down the lights and letting me flip. Still no sheet, she did a light fingertip massage for a minute before asking whether I wanted to be massaged "here". Of course! "Oil?" Of course! She proceeded to deliver a top-notch HE, allowing me to roam OTC and eventually under her little skirt. I ended up hiking it up around her waist and found a tiny black thong. The OTC petting got pretty heavy (according to her breathing and moans) but I popped before getting any further. Her HE technique with two hands was that good. She cleaned me up and rounded out the hour with a great scalp and face massage. Provided me with water on the way out, along with a business card. They're open from 10 a-9 p every day and walk-ins are fine, but I'll probably call before my next trip to make sure I'm booked with Ivy. Normally I'd tip forty for service like this but the massage quality, finish technique and roaming opportunity warranted another twenty for a total of one twenty out the door, with plenty of change left for dinner.[/QUOTE]I saw ivy a few days ago and my experience was similar. I didn't push too much since dit was my first time but she seemed willing to shed some clothing on return visits. She was wearing a thin dress and allowed plenty of roaming while she finished me off. She continued to edge me after I popped until she was satisfied she got every drop out. Solid 60/60 spot.

[QUOTE=GilfLover;5357504]Wow, that's funny. Perhaps there should be a hygiene forum?[/QUOTE]Hell, I might get some extras from the girls if they knew who I was!

[QUOTE=IDontBelong;5358661]I forgot to mention Heavenly Hands. I kind of considered them not a true AMP, but anyway. Went twice. Really great service both times with the full nude and body slide option. Those were great body rubs too. No shyness, full views, maximum contact. Had a chick named Giselle the second time. Australian chick, super hot. Both times I went, they had the milking tables. Now THAT was a sensation. Extra blood rushing to where you wanted it, no need to awkwardly lift your hips to grant access while face down, etc. I am pretty unclear on what happened to HH or those tables. It looked like there was an attempt to keep it going for a bit, but it seems to have faded into obscurity. I have never heard of anyone else with one.

Also I meant to apologize for not contributing for so long. And again, thanks to those who do.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your 2 recent posts. I know we all appreciate intel on where the hot spots and girls are, but I believed HH has been out of the game for over 9 months. Unless you know if / where Giselle or the other HH girls are working / what sites they are advertising on then none of us can enjoy this experience. If you have any recent encounters you can share we would all appreciate it! Thank you!

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5359274]Thanks for your 2 recent posts. I know we all appreciate intel on where the hot spots and girls are, but I believed HH has been out of the game for over 9 months. Unless you know if / where Giselle or the other HH girls are working / what sites they are advertising on then none of us can enjoy this experience. If you have any recent encounters you can share we would all appreciate it! Thank you![/QUOTE]Yup, I understand my reviews, except for the Aria one, are quite dated. I was mostly offering the HH experiences out of curiosity. Their website still exists, I heard they had moved locations, and then some of the girls went to Soft Touch, which also seems to have slowed down. It all confuses me. I was also kind of reminiscing and trying to figure out if any 'businesses' like HH still operate. And above all- what happened to those tables!? Haha. I'll work on posting more relevant things.

[QUOTE=IDontBelong;5358661]I forgot to mention Heavenly Hands. I kind of considered them not a true AMP, but anyway. Went twice. Really great service both times with the full nude and body slide option. Those were great body rubs too. No shyness, full views, maximum contact. Had a chick named Giselle the second time. Australian chick, super hot. Both times I went, they had the milking tables. Now THAT was a sensation. Extra blood rushing to where you wanted it, no need to awkwardly lift your hips to grant access while face down, etc. I am pretty unclear on what happened to HH or those tables. It looked like there was an attempt to keep it going for a bit, but it seems to have faded into obscurity. I have never heard of anyone else with one.

Also I meant to apologize for not contributing for so long. And again, thanks to those who do.[/QUOTE]Is it located by Mission Valley?

2667 Camino del Rio S #113.

San Diego, CA 92108.

Checked out LL massage on PV road. Was greeted by Tutu, 35 why / o big tits. Massage was kind of weak and she did it over a sheet. Light teasing didn't really touch anything just went around the area. HJ for the finish she was kind of akward which is weird because its never really awkward with me. She didn't want to strip even for an extra tip, (said she doesn't do that) I've seen reviews on here saying they got FS from this place so YMMV. Ended up paying 40/40 for the Hhr. Overall experience 4/10 wouldn't go back.

Mr. Dickerdown.

Hey guys, no big report but I've seen a couple of requests here and I have been curious myself. I went to Pine this past Saturday and they now have a sign in sheet. After putting my illegible name and fake phone number, I went in like usual. Gave name and pin and they sent in Mickie. She was ok, not the best or the worst girl I've ever had there. This was more of a first visit here after covid. I had to keep my mask on the entire time which was a bit uncomfortable laying on my stomach. Flipped and she took off her mask for the BJ and switched to the CG. Hope the logistical info is helpful.

[QUOTE=Pete8911;5361550]Hey guys, no big report but I've seen a couple of requests here and I have been curious myself. I went to Pine this past Saturday and they now have a sign in sheet. After putting my illegible name and fake phone number, I went in like usual. Gave name and pin and they sent in Mickie. She was ok, not the best or the worst girl I've ever had there. This was more of a first visit here after covid. I had to keep my mask on the entire time which was a bit uncomfortable laying on my stomach. Flipped and she took off her mask for the BJ and switched to the CG. Hope the logistical info is helpful.[/QUOTE]What's the damage?

[QUOTE=IDontBelong;5358661]I forgot to mention Heavenly Hands. I kind of considered them not a true AMP, but anyway. Went twice. Really great service both times with the full nude and body slide option. Those were great body rubs too. No shyness, full views, maximum contact. Had a chick named Giselle the second time. Australian chick, super hot. Both times I went, they had the milking tables. Now THAT was a sensation. Extra blood rushing to where you wanted it, no need to awkwardly lift your hips to grant access while face down, etc. I am pretty unclear on what happened to HH or those tables. It looked like there was an attempt to keep it going for a bit, but it seems to have faded into obscurity. I have never heard of anyone else with one.

Also I meant to apologize for not contributing for so long. And again, thanks to those who do.[/QUOTE]Is this a recent visit? Like others have already commented, they went out business months ago. If they are really back up, would be great if you could share an address / phone number.

[QUOTE=RoadRunner123;5361686]Is this a recent visit? Like others have already commented, they went out business months ago. If they are really back up, would be great if you could share an address / phone number.[/QUOTE]

As far as I know HH stopped operation 9 plus months ago. I was excited when I saw his report thinking that HH had reopened, but I think his most recent visit was at Aria Spa about a month ago, the rest of his visits were 1. 5 to 2 years ago at various spas pre COVID. I stopped reading after that. The girls that he reviewed probably aren't even there anymore, and things are a lot different with COVID and all the precautions that are in place.

I too would like to know if HH is reopened and if he has any recent intel on any of the HH girls.

[QUOTE=DrPornDawger;5361671]What's the damage?[/QUOTE]I had heard that prices had increased, but I was. 6 for the house and a $. 4 tip for FS. Same as before the lockdown.

Saw an ad for grand opening and went in this morning on a hunch. VIP massage on Campo rd. Greeted by Ku Ku who introduced me to Yu Yu the"new girl". Young and very pretty. HF was 60 for hr. So so massage but with great teasing. She was not shy and was intent on pleasing me. The owner asked me not to mention anything about extras so I won't, but I left a happy man. Also left a 60 tip. I will return.

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Cici was a very nice girl, she was very attractive, young. She looks about 25 or so. I believe this place was on Erma Rd. I would call in before to make sure because my memory is a bit hazy.

Inside it's clean and Cici was up front to bring me to the room. I got naked pretty quickly after paying the house fee, awaiting Cici. She gives such a great massage, my god. It was strong, firm and the techniques made my body feel a lot better. She even teased a little bit and got my cock so hard before we flipped over. She offered everything on the other side.

The menu is deep here which is a great thing. I went deep on her, LOL. I sucked on her nipples after an okay CBJ. My cock isn't as sensitive as it used to be. I pounded her in Missionary, had her legs around me. I fucked her in doggy too. Then she got on top of me and rode like a Thai Cowgirl. She loves being on top of my cock, laying her hands on my chest and positioning herself so that she could have a little fun of her own. It felt like she had cum and I blew out like a college dropout in dire need of dorm pussy. What an experience! LOL.

I don't have any knowledge on what happened to HH. I was more curious if anyone else had answers to those questions. Sorry for the time-wasting, I will do better!

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;5361875]As far as I know HH stopped operation 9 plus months ago. I was excited when I saw his report thinking that HH had reopened, but I think his most recent visit was at Aria Spa about a month ago, the rest of his visits were 1. 5 to 2 years ago at various spas pre COVID. I stopped reading after that. The girls that he reviewed probably aren't even there anymore, and things are a lot different with COVID and all the precautions that are in place.

I too would like to know if HH is reopened and if he has any recent intel on any of the HH girls.[/QUOTE]

Hey Guys,

Does anyone know of any ladies that do DT? BJ is easy enough to find, but the DT not so much. Also looking for large breasted women, I know about Coco at Q, wondering what else might be out there.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

My Friends, this is a perfect example.

[QUOTE=JohnRobe;5362606][URL]http://adultsearch.com/california/san-diego/body-rubs/1743573[/URL]

Cici was a very nice girl, she was very attractive, young. She looks about 25 or so. I believe this place was on Erma Rd. I would call in before to make sure because my memory is a bit hazy.

Inside it's clean and Cici was up front to bring me to the room. I got naked pretty quickly after paying the house fee, awaiting Cici. She gives such a great massage, my god. It was strong, firm and the techniques made my body feel a lot better. She even teased a little bit and got my cock so hard before we flipped over. She offered everything on the other side.

The menu is deep here which is a great thing. I went deep on her, LOL. I sucked on her nipples after an okay CBJ. My cock isn't as sensitive as it used to be. I pounded her in Missionary, had her legs around me. I fucked her in doggy too. Then she got on top of me and rode like a Thai Cowgirl. She loves being on top of my cock, laying her hands on my chest and positioning herself so that she could have a little fun of her own. It felt like she had cum and I blew out like a college dropout in dire need of dorm pussy. What an experience! LOL.[/QUOTE]