Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=BadBird;5652168]No. We set the price. Simply do not pay and prices will come down. I approach this usually by telling them I would insult them with a counter since they are so high or I simply say for less I can get a full hour with an escort in a much more comfortable environment and ask her if she wants to come up with a new price before I make an appointment with one of them.[/QUOTE]Excellent strategy but you need the luxury of time. As in time to negotiate with multiple strippers or even time to relocate to a different club.

Just curious, what is your approximate percent success in closing a deal at an OK price point with this strategy?

Just wondering if there are any clubs with girls worth seeing for rather complete visits during Sunday afternoons? What's my best hope?

[QUOTE=Electronman;5652494]Excellent strategy but you need the luxury of time. As in time to negotiate with multiple strippers or even time to relocate to a different club.

Just curious, what is your approximate percent success in closing a deal at an OK price point with this strategy?[/QUOTE]I think he means collectively. So if we all do the same thing, prices will come down. Unfortunately there is an endless supply of rubes who will "overpay" some of these ladies, so they don't have to lower prices. It's only for this reason that I question the efficacy of such an approach. And if you see an irresistible lady, you'll probably end up paying what she wants anyway. Thus the irresistible nature of lust.

[QUOTE=Electronman;5652494]Excellent strategy but you need the luxury of time. As in time to negotiate with multiple strippers or even time to relocate to a different club.

Just curious, what is your approximate percent success in closing a deal at an OK price point with this strategy?[/QUOTE]The second one will get an instant counter almost all the time without me having to say a number, does not mean it goes low enough though. Maybe 35-40% of the time that route works to a point of a deal, it gets her down then you can counter with what you are willing to pay without being miles apart. I usually pull the first strategy when I am not overly interested / have more interest in another that night. IE it usually does not lead anywhere other than to get her to leave. Which quite frankly if I am not 100% sure about her and she is quoting $$$$ or $$$$$ is exactly what I want her to do.

As for time, no issue for me. I never go without hours to spend across multiple clubs if needed but I prefer to keep it to 1-2 clubs in a night or the nickel and dime crap adds up.

The last thing you must be willing to do is take your cash home for another day. I have done that several times.

[QUOTE=DeadDead22;5652890]I think he means collectively. So if we all do the same thing, prices will come down. Unfortunately there is an endless supply of rubes who will "overpay" some of these ladies, so they don't have to lower prices. It's only for this reason that I question the efficacy of such an approach. And if you see an irresistible lady, you'll probably end up paying what she wants anyway. Thus the irresistible nature of lust.[/QUOTE]I'd say the make it rain idiots are more problematic than the occasional guy willing to give them their asking price for VIP. When they're hauling bags of cash off the stage, little incentive for them to try and earn 200 in the back.

[QUOTE=CommonSteve666;5653828]I'd say the make it rain idiots are more problematic than the occasional guy willing to give them their asking price for VIP. When they're hauling bags of cash off the stage, little incentive for them to try and earn 200 in the back.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with Steve's assessment here. Although I haven't had the time like I used to, to come up and hit the clubs it seems that there are way way more of the make it rain Idiot's out there now then there were before. And not at just one or 2 clubs, from my few visit's up there as of late it seems just about very club has them in there now. It seems I come home with my money in my pocket more and more these days then what I used to. But Hey I'm more then willing to stick to my guns / price point. If nothing else after a few times of that I'll just hit up an escort and have a nice leisurely visit in a comfy room and a bed instead of the closet size "VIP" booths. Hopefully with Chief Craig no longer running the Dpd maybe the Detroit clubs will start to loosen up a bit and stir up more competition and bring things back to closer to the way they used to be.

Stopped in for quick couple of beers 8 dancers one white brunette nice ass a cups sat down forget her name quoted 200 for FS I said 140 is my budget she did not budge neither did I. So I walked. 2 beers $11. Deano.

I got a number from a dancer at Silver Cricket and she quoted 500 bucks for everything and everything had to be covered even oral. I didn't reply but just blocked her texts, she was attractive maybe at 100 for everything.

What's the latest on the Criket? I've sworn it off after I'd read a couple of members reviews about getting kicked out by a dancer-manager scam. Is that manager gone now? Has anyone else had issues?

[QUOTE=CommonSteve666;5653828]I'd say the make it rain idiots are more problematic than the occasional guy willing to give them their asking price for VIP. When they're hauling bags of cash off the stage, little incentive for them to try and earn 200 in the back.[/QUOTE]I'm starting to believe that the "make it rain" clowns are impotent. Why else would they just throw money away, half the time the dancer doesn't even know who the money is coming from and the the other half of the time the money just hits the floor or out of reach and the intended dancer doesn't even get it.

Typically, I stick with girls that I know, since we already know what to expect and the job gets done without issue. Occasionally, I'll take a chance on someone new and for unknowns, the initial quote seems to be $200 now. When I hear that and the girl has little to no interest in negotiating or refuses to budge, I give them the same speech. "You might get $200 from a guy once and never get him again BUT if you give a guy a good time at a good price, he will come back and see you again and again and over time, you'll make thousands from him". That speech has worked as a negotiating tactic more than once, even if not at that very moment. I've had a girl walk away and then approach me later on in the visit and decide that we can make a deal after all. Additionally, I always let them know that if we have a good time, I'll come back and see them again and I do.

Another bit of advice that is or should be very well known is that you can just walk away. Save your money for another time. They need your money more than you need their pussy. Regardless, some nights are going to be a bust anyway, despite your best efforts. Sometimes, no one will be there of interest or again, some simply won't be reasonable. Cut your losses and go crank one out to PornHub. Cranking one out in the comfort of your own place is a great cost effective option and you won't leave with buyer's remorse.

As an add on story and I'm keeping the dancer's name out of it, I was at H8N in the last few days and as luck would have it, one of my semi regulars was working. She always gets the job done and I leave happy. There were 7 or 8 girls working. When she went on stage, I asked if she wanted to come and see me and she said she would and just to give her a few minutes after she got off stage. No problem. I waited and waited and then she showed up and sat at the bar with some guy and seemed to talk forever. Got up once, walked around and sat back down with him in extended conversation. By now, it's been maybe 30-40 minutes and I'm getting a bit irritated but ok, I get another drink and check out the other girls. About 10 minutes later, I asked the waitress to ask the girl if she's still planning on coming over. So, the waitress told me she said yes and to give her 10 minutes. The dancer goes back to her conversation and 15 minutes later, I decided that I'd had enough and walked out. It was easy money for her and hopefully, next time, she'll be more responsive. If not, I'll look for another girl to put in rotation. They money remains in my wallet, so I'm sure there's another dancer who'll appreciate getting it in the next few days.

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;5655559]I'm starting to believe that the "make it rain" clowns are impotent. Why else would they just throw money away, half the time the dancer doesn't even know who the money is coming from and the the other half of the time the money just hits the floor or out of reach and the intended dancer doesn't even get it.[/QUOTE]This might sound like a conspiracy theory, but suppose the 'make it rain' guys are actually shills for the bar and / or dancers? Basically, maybe the bar owners / managers / dancers set these guys up with a stack of 50 $1. 00 bills (for example) to toss onstage as 'seed money' to inspire others to do the same. Seeing some guy throw dollar bills onstage doesn't inspire me to do the same, but maybe it's designed to make the rest of the guys appear 'small' and 'cheap' if they don't do the same. This would be along the same lines of street card dealers using shills to lure observers in. Probably not, but since we've discussed these guy's possible motivations before, I thought I'd throw that theory out here too.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;5655593]Typically, I stick with girls that I know, since we already know what to expect and the job gets done without issue. Occasionally, I'll take a chance on someone new and for unknowns, the initial quote seems to be $200 now. When I hear that and the girl has little to no interest in negotiating or refuses to budge, I give them the same speech. "You might get $200 from a guy once and never get him again BUT if you give a guy a good time at a good price, he will come back and see you again and again and over time, you'll make thousands from him". That speech has worked as a negotiating tactic more than once, even if not at that very moment. I've had a girl walk away and then approach me later on in the visit and decide that we can make a deal after all. Additionally, I always let them know that if we have a good time, I'll come back and see them again and I do.

Another bit of advice that is or should be very well known is that you can just walk away. Save your money for another time. They need your money more than you need their pussy. Regardless, some nights are going to be a bust anyway, despite your best efforts. Sometimes, no one will be there of interest or again, some simply won't be reasonable. Cut your losses and go crank one out to PornHub. Cranking one out in the comfort of your own place is a great cost effective option and you won't leave with buyer's remorse.

As an add on story and I'm keeping the dancer's name out of it, I was at H8N in the last few days and as luck would have it, one of my semi regulars was working. She always gets the job done and I leave happy. There were 7 or 8 girls working. When she went on stage, I asked if she wanted to come and see me and she said she would and just to give her a few minutes after she got off stage. No problem. I waited and waited and then she showed up and sat at the bar with some guy and seemed to talk forever. Got up once, walked around and sat back down with him in extended conversation. By now, it's been maybe 30-40 minutes and I'm getting a bit irritated but ok, I get another drink and check out the other girls. About 10 minutes later, I asked the waitress to ask the girl if she's still planning on coming over. So, the waitress told me she said yes and to give her 10 minutes. The dancer goes back to her conversation and 15 minutes later, I decided that I'd had enough and walked out. It was easy money for her and hopefully, next time, she'll be more responsive. If not, I'll look for another girl to put in rotation. They money remains in my wallet, so I'm sure there's another dancer who'll appreciate getting it in the next few days.[/QUOTE]This has happened to me recently at a club where the dancer was like yes I will do some dances with you and then she goes and sits with some dude for 20 minutes. I get disgusted and just leave. I can find a different dancer who wants my money.

[QUOTE=Deano666;5655420]Stopped in for quick couple of beers 8 dancers one white brunette nice ass a cups sat down forget her name quoted 200 for FS I said 140 is my budget she did not budge neither did I. So I walked. 2 beers $11. Deano.[/QUOTE]Start the $50 Friday and Saturday movement. No more than $50 for FS on those days.

I wonder what would happen then. LOL.

There was a thin stripper with dark long straight hair at bogarts. She said she visits from Texas. Think she said her name was Jenna. Anyone know about her? Any good? She looks good from a distance, but up close she looks older like 35-40's. I was tempted, but she didn't want to discuss details unless I went to VIP first.

[QUOTE=Bmarr77;5655747]This has happened to me recently at a club where the dancer was like yes I will do some dances with you and then she goes and sits with some dude for 20 minutes. I get disgusted and just leave. I can find a different dancer who wants my money.[/QUOTE]That's the beauty of it, isn't it? We can just walk away and find someone else. Our money is green everywhere.

[QUOTE=RainMan5;5649538]If there is a savvy vet or two in the Detroit Strip Club market could they PM me as to the current state of the Detroit Strip club scene. Have not visited since the fall of 2018.

Recall that the Colliseum had good eye candy & some fun. Bogarts, Henry's & Silver Criket had widely available extras & tended to be cheaper. Several clubs had valet parking which was annoying.

I have lots of posts for Illinois & Wisconsin. Just need a gauge if the Detroit scene is still worthwhile.[/QUOTE]If you know what you posted, then that's probably all your going to need. You know where things are, just need to research and refine your options. I am from New England and know Detroit clubs well. Just spend the time.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;5655555]What's the latest on the Criket? I've sworn it off after I'd read a couple of members reviews about getting kicked out by a dancer-manager scam. Is that manager gone now? Has anyone else had issues?[/QUOTE]Dayshift is pretty dead, almost all of the old dancers they had on dayshift are gone, not sure if they went to a new club or just quit the biz. The manager on dayshift is still there. I never had an issue with him but I could see that happening with some dancers. If you are going to visit I would try a Thursday or Friday. The only good thing about the cricket right now is no cover or valet to pay if you are scoping out dayshift but pickings are slim.

[QUOTE=AllRight999;5655774]Start the $50 Friday and Saturday movement. No more than $50 for FS on those days.

I wonder what would happen then. LOL.[/QUOTE]You will leave with most of your money, that's probably what will happen. It's hard to find streetwalkers dong $20 bjs, so sure 50 for FS and BJ in a club seems likely.

Increasingly there is a supply side issue in strip clubs; there are fewer dancers left in the clubs that readily have extras, and the quality is lower, overall.

[QUOTE=DA9988;5655421]I got a number from a dancer at Silver Cricket and she quoted 500 bucks for everything and everything had to be covered even oral. I didn't reply but just blocked her texts, she was attractive maybe at 100 for everything.[/QUOTE]I congratulate you and thank you. I really appreciate the guys who stick to their guns and refuse to be ripped off. I keep hoping it will make things better for the rest of us. I am writing because there are a number of those on this page. Unfortunately there are not enough like you. There are several things at play. One is the guys who seem to have endless wads of cash to throw around and don't care if how it affects others. Another is the girls that ask for insane prices, trying to convince us that guys are actually paying that much. In my experience, they can usually be negotiated down, but not enough to bag me. The third, which will never change, is the guys that cannot control their sexual urges and will throw away their mortgage money, their kids college tuition and anything else to get the girl of their dreams who they believe is in love with them. You can't argue with them. They are convinced the girls are in love with them. I would like to see the Oscars people establish a new category for Best Actress among sex workers. There would be lots of contenders.

[QUOTE=DA9988;5655421]I got a number from a dancer at Silver Cricket and she quoted 500 bucks for everything and everything had to be covered even oral. I didn't reply but just blocked her texts, she was attractive maybe at 100 for everything.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]The prices they are quoting is stupid [/QUOTE]If they were smart they would be strippers. If you were smart you would unblock her so when she texts you next week saying she really needs money you can then nail her for the 100. When she quoted you 500 she had money in her pocket. Next week (more like 3 days) when she's broke and dope sick her price will be much lower.

[QUOTE=Ump1969;5656743]I congratulate you and thank you. I really appreciate the guys who stick to their guns and refuse to be ripped off. I keep hoping it will make things better for the rest of us. I am writing because there are a number of those on this page. Unfortunately there are not enough like you. There are several things at play. One is the guys who seem to have endless wads of cash to throw around and don't care if how it affects others. Another is the girls that ask for insane prices, trying to convince us that guys are actually paying that much. In my experience, they can usually be negotiated down, but not enough to bag me. The third, which will never change, is the guys that cannot control their sexual urges and will throw away their mortgage money, their kids college tuition and anything else to get the girl of their dreams who they believe is in love with them. You can't argue with them. They are convinced the girls are in love with them. I would like to see the Oscars people establish a new category for Best Actress among sex workers. There would be lots of contenders.[/QUOTE]Agree. As hard as it is to go without sex, it is even harder to go without money. At least going without sex services in the strip club has some alternative outlets. So, if the customers refuse to pay crazy prices, the prices will come down.

[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5657008]If they were smart they would be strippers. If you were smart you would unblock her so when she texts you next week saying she really needs money you can then nail her for the 100. When she quoted you 500 she had money in her pocket. Next week (more like 3 days) when she's broke and dope sick her price will be much lower.[/QUOTE]She probably didn't want to do anything extra with you. If you get a high quote that a very good chance that's the case.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;5655555]What's the latest on the Criket? I've sworn it off after I'd read a couple of members reviews about getting kicked out by a dancer-manager scam. Is that manager gone now? Has anyone else had issues?[/QUOTE]One guy getting kicked out means the whole place is a no go? I was just at the cricket. Great time deals to had throughout but it's def not H8 or bogarts. The women are definitely choosing there not just looking for anybody to take in back. Same goes for Pantheon. An if your white your more likely to get upcharges.

[QUOTE=Electronman;5657325]Agree. As hard as it is to go without sex, it is even harder to go without money. At least going without sex services in the strip club has some alternative outlets. So, if the customers refuse to pay crazy prices, the prices will come down.[/QUOTE]This must be the new agreed upon line at a bunch of clubs by the girls, and I went to BT's yesterday and was quoted 300 for oral and 500 for everything. She was cute but there was this smoke show of a blond dancing during dayshift, but she was tied down with some guys in a booth most of the time I was there.

[QUOTE=MIJohn;5655724]This might sound like a conspiracy theory, but suppose the 'make it rain' guys are actually shills for the bar and / or dancers? Basically, maybe the bar owners / managers / dancers set these guys up with a stack of 50 $1. 00 bills (for example) to toss onstage as 'seed money' to inspire others to do the same. Seeing some guy throw dollar bills onstage doesn't inspire me to do the same, but maybe it's designed to make the rest of the guys appear 'small' and 'cheap' if they don't do the same. This would be along the same lines of street card dealers using shills to lure observers in. Probably not, but since we've discussed these guy's possible motivations before, I thought I'd throw that theory out here too.[/QUOTE]One place for sure that uses shills is Alcatraz near Monroe, MI. Obvious in that the security guys pick up all the bills after the dance and the girls don't even pay attention. Haven't been there in a long time but this happened for every girl on stage. Ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Qetuo;5657872]One place for sure that uses shills is Alcatraz near Monroe, MI. Obvious in that the security guys pick up all the bills after the dance and the girls don't even pay attention. Haven't been there in a long time but this happened for every girl on stage. Ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Yep, if I am going to make it rain so to speak, it will be on an individual one on one basis where we are talking and having some drinks and then I might tip her for fun and two way happiness!! Not just some anonymous throwing of money at her on stage that she doesn't even get all the money, sometimes I have sat near the stage and some fool makes it rain and a bunch of ones fall under our table and after awhile I will just get them myself!! So the fool just made it rain for me. A guy!

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;5657991]Yep, if I am going to make it rain so to speak, it will be on an individual one on one basis where we are talking and having some drinks and then I might tip her for fun and two way happiness!! Not just some anonymous throwing of money at her on stage that she doesn't even get all the money, sometimes I have sat near the stage and some fool makes it rain and a bunch of ones fall under our table and after awhile I will just get them myself!! So the fool just made it rain for me. A guy![/QUOTE]I find the whole "rain" phenomenon pretty gross. The "I have money, so I'm going to make you degrade yourself to get some of it" attitude is pretty offensive, though I suppose that's at the root of this hobby at all levels. But making it rain takes it to an extreme. It always makes me think of this scene from The Magic Christian.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xg2v_T2XH8[/URL]

I have an ex who recently worked at bt's She's told me most of the idiots who make it rain are just drug dealers showing off. The girls love it because now they don't have to do anything but sit on their phones. Fortunately for me, I live in the flint area and like to remind these gps girls that there are 4 other clubs within 2 miles and they have a lot of competition for my money.

[QUOTE=ButtMan777;5658105]I have an ex who recently worked at bt's She's told me most of the idiots who make it rain are just drug dealers showing off. The girls love it because now they don't have to do anything but sit on their phones. Fortunately for me, I live in the flint area and like to remind these gps girls that there are 4 other clubs within 2 miles and they have a lot of competition for my money.[/QUOTE]Which club is your fav in Flint?

[QUOTE=JoeLefty;5658539]Which club is your fav in Flint?[/QUOTE]Men's club. VIP room has doors. Teasers and the odyssey are nice but it's a large room with for lack of a better term cubicles.

[QUOTE=ButtMan777;5658646]Men's club. VIP room has doors. Teasers and the odyssey are nice but it's a large room with for lack of a better term cubicles.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming all three of those clubs you named have extras available?

[QUOTE=Spite36;5657538]One guy getting kicked out means the whole place is a no go? I was just at the cricket. Great time deals to had throughout but it's def not H8 or bogarts. The women are definitely choosing there not just looking for anybody to take in back. Same goes for Pantheon. An if your white your more likely to get upcharges.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Can you clarify about the "white guys" comment? Meaning they are more likely to get higher prices in general? Or more services offered for extra cost?

[QUOTE=Lamarr;5658953]Hmmm. Can you clarify about the "white guys" comment? Meaning they are more likely to get higher prices in general? Or more services offered for extra cost?[/QUOTE]They will either choose you or think you automatically have more money to spend. By choose I mean they will sit with there regular cause they aren't interested. That goes for any race. It's really a money issue. But I've heard from quite a few women an my cousin who dances that they will immediately upsell if they aren't interested in extra. Could be smell look anything. Especially if they know they going to make money.

Saw vixen finally, after reading the stellar review a few months ago I had to find her. She was with a regular or possibly bf when I got there, hanging out with Aliena and Naomi. 160 for full fun, uncovered and covered, hot chick and left happy but there were 2 hotter chicks for sure. I went back with Aliena a few weeks ago and she was fun, nice gal, Naomi is here from Vegas. . or that's the story, she was actually the hottest of the 3 will try for her next time or the older 30 somethings a dirty blonde and a brunette, both a quarter the size of the other 3 I talked about, in actual weight. Was there about 5, was actually pretty busy with 8 or 9 dancers and about the same as patrons.

[QUOTE=HarryDude;5659324]Saw vixen finally, after reading the stellar review a few months ago I had to find her. She was with a regular or possibly bf when I got there, hanging out with Aliena and Naomi. 160 for full fun, uncovered and covered, hot chick and left happy but there were 2 hotter chicks for sure. I went back with Aliena a few weeks ago and she was fun, nice gal, Naomi is here from Vegas. . or that's the story, she was actually the hottest of the 3 will try for her next time or the older 30 somethings a dirty blonde and a brunette, both a quarter the size of the other 3 I talked about, in actual weight. Was there about 5, was actually pretty busy with 8 or 9 dancers and about the same as patrons.[/QUOTE]What day and time did you visit?

[QUOTE=Bmarr77;5659657]What day and time did you visit?[/QUOTE]Yesterday, so Wednesday it was about 5 left about 6.

Anybody been there lately? My buddy met a dancer outside the club. She wants him to drop in.

Any info would be appreciated. Type of girls, cover, drink $$ , dance $$ etc.. Safety of neighborhood. Thanks.

[QUOTE=ButtMan777;5658646]Men's club. VIP room has doors. Teasers and the odyssey are nice but it's a large room with for lack of a better term cubicles.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'll have to pay a visit there soon.

Any Dallas sightings at H8? Anyone know days that she is there? It's a long drive.

[QUOTE=HarryDude;5659324]Saw vixen finally, after reading the stellar review a few months ago I had to find her. She was with a regular or possibly bf when I got there, hanging out with Aliena and Naomi. 160 for full fun, uncovered and covered, hot chick and left happy but there were 2 hotter chicks for sure. I went back with Aliena a few weeks ago and she was fun, nice gal, Naomi is here from Vegas. . or that's the story, she was actually the hottest of the 3 will try for her next time or the older 30 somethings a dirty blonde and a brunette, both a quarter the size of the other 3 I talked about, in actual weight. Was there about 5, was actually pretty busy with 8 or 9 dancers and about the same as patrons.[/QUOTE]