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[QUOTE=Admin2;5342113]Oh I know it's not over, between you q-anon guys and the ineptness of the Democrats it's going to be Trump / Harris in 2024 if he's still alive and I think he kills her.
As to the national embarrassment part there has never been a bigger embarrassment than Trump was. He was openly scorned and ridiculed by the leadership of the rest of the world. I know you Q guys love him but the rest of the world saw him as he is, the petty man boy still trying to escape his fathers shadow. I don't dislike him because he's a Republican, I've thought he was a duchey publicity wh0re since the 80's. You know he bankrupted a casino right? He couldn't even turn a profit in a casino which is like a license to sell crack and he bankrupted a few. He's a good branding guy and that's pretty much it.[/QUOTE]Again, I can understand your opinion while not necessarily agreeing with it. I thought the same thing about Trump until around 2000 when I began to hear the Imus interviews with him once or twice a week and discovered to my great surprise that he had much more substance to him than I had previously believed possible. He talked at great length with Imus about how neither party gave a damn about the American public and that a great shake up was coming. That resonated with me and millions of others who have no party affiliation and we voted him in because of it. What we have now is a Republican party that still does not give a damn about the American public and a Democratic party that has been taken over by leftist anarchists who don't give a damn about the American public either but are intent on destroying the foundation of the country this public belongs to. This will be the great death struggle in the coming months and years and those of us who oppose the Democratic traitors are doing our best to keep an America intact that offers the most opportunity for the most citizens of this country. We are not q-anon extremists, just ordinary citizens who understand what great danger our country is in right now. There are at least 80 to 100 million of us out here who are feared by both parties because they know that we know what they are all about and that about does not include our best interests. The Repubs are still the same old stupid selfish assholes they have always been. The Dems are the ones who are attempting to destroy the republic now and replace it with a totalitarian nightmare. They are the real enemies to all of us now. They, along with the woke fools who support them, must be stopped.
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Hate
[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5342243]NO! NO IT WAS NOT, NO ONE MANUFACTURED THE DAMN VIRUS!
I have posted with many links telling you that this is BULLSHIT! THE CDC SEE PEOPLE WHO DIED OF WITH OR OF COVID-19 ARE ONE AND THE SAME!
Well given that basically the rest of the world did I say yes, she would.
I highly doubt so.
No the mistake he made was GETTING RID OF THE PANDEMIC RESPONSE TEAM BECAUSE OF HIS PETTY GRUDGE WITH Obama.
Pretty sure she would and I highly doubt people would forget given what's happening in India right now.[/QUOTE]Your blind hate of Trump makes you incapable of see that the whole Covid 19 pandemic was manufactured, you don't want to hear the facts, you ignore the facts, you ignore everything that happened except for things you can blame Trump for. You are 20 times more likely to get into a car accident than have a serious case of covid (20 million car accidents last year). Only 40 k people died from covid in the USA Just because someone who died may have had covid doesn't mean they died from covid. Straight from the CDC 42 k people died from covid, all others tested positive after death, but died from cancer, stroke, heart attacks etc.
I'm glad you brought up India, the whole reason we don't have the infection rates here that India does was that all last year Trump and his advisors mitigated the covid response to keep it from getting that bad, but now all of a sudden Biden is in office and cases are on the rise again? It's due to poor leadership. Once again your blind hate of Trump keeps you from being able to live in reality and acknowledge the great job he did compared to other world leaders.
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Evidence
[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5342271]Ok so you still have no response over the fact that all of the court cases have been dismissed due to no evidence.[/QUOTE]You are twisting the story as usual. You claim no evidence, the ruling was "insufficient evidence" which means that had evidence but questioned whether or not it was enough to convict, therefore dismissed it. Nobody but you ever said there was "no evidence" smdh.
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[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5342232]While my portfolio sky-rocketed. All of the tariffs were paid by the companies importing goods from China which went into the cost of goods sold as any economist or educated American can tell you. And it did hurt Chinese and American companies alike.[/QUOTE]FYI, Biden's Stock Market Is Crushing Trump's so your investment portfolio with Biden as POTUS must be doing gangbusters.
[I]By one of President Trump’s favorite measures of success President Biden’s post-election stock market gains have beaten Trump’s equivalent five plus month’s returns. In fact Biden’s have crushed Trump’s, which continues a trend that occurred through the end of 2020.[/I]
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2021/04/19/bidens-stock-market-is-crushing-trumps/?sh=16733191ec4b[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5342271]Ok so you still have no response over the fact that all of the court cases have been dismissed due to no evidence.[/QUOTE]What else can the board knuckle head say, when several trump appointed Judges have rebuked Trump's voter fraud claims.
[I]Dec 14, 2020 — The most remarkable rebukes of Trump's legal case: came from the judges he hand- picked. At least nine Trump-appointed judges or Supreme Court short-listers declined to bolster his claims of* voter fraud.
Voters, not lawyers, choose the President,” U.S. Circuit Court Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, said in a rejection of an attempt to throw out votes for Joe Biden in Pennsylvania. Writing on behalf of two other GOP-appointed judges, Bibas added: “Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”
In a lawsuit aimed at blocking certification of Biden’s win in Georgia, U.S. District Court Judge Steven D. Grimberg, who Trump appointed last year, said the effort “would breed confusion and potentially disenfranchisement that I find has no basis in fact or in law.”*
The latest blow came Saturday, when federal District Judge Brett H. Ludwig, a Trump appointee who assumed the bench in September, called Trump’s sweeping request to throw out the election results in Wisconsin “extraordinary” and stopped short of declaring him a sore loser. “A sitting president who did not prevail in his bid for reelection has asked for federal court help in setting aside the popular vote based on disputed issues of election administration, issues he plainly could have raised before the vote occurred,” he said.[/I]
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Mostly True
I am not the only one that has been surprised over the past several months which were already on the upswing with some return to normalcy. A meeting this week with my financial advisor did reconfirm that I have to keep a lot of stop sell orders in place should the market begin to tank. With PRESIDENT Trump, I did not check my portfolio but one a week or so, now it is a few times a day.
[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5342333]FYI, Biden's Stock Market Is Crushing Trump's so your investment portfolio with Biden as POTUS must be doing gangbusters.
[I]By one of President Trumps favorite measures of success President Bidens post-election stock market gains have beaten Trumps equivalent five plus months returns. In fact Bidens have crushed Trumps, which continues a trend that occurred through the end of 2020.[/I]
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2021/04/19/bidens-stock-market-is-crushing-trumps/?sh=16733191ec4b[/URL][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5342313]Your blind hate of Trump makes you incapable of see that the whole Covid 19 pandemic was manufactured, you don't want to hear the facts, you ignore the facts, you ignore everything that happened except for things you can blame Trump for. You are 20 times more likely to get into a car accident than have a serious case of covid (20 million car accidents last year). Only 40 k people died from covid in the USA Just because someone who died may have had covid doesn't mean they died from covid. Straight from the CDC 42 k people died from covid, all others tested positive after death, but died from cancer, stroke, heart attacks etc.
[/QUOTE]No 5550,000 in America died because of catching COVID-19, I have no blind hatred of Trump, I just look at the facts.
[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5342313]I'm glad you brought up India, the whole reason we don't have the infection rates here that India does was that all last year Trump and his advisors mitigated the covid response to keep it from getting that bad, but now all of a sudden Biden is in office and cases are on the rise again? It's due to poor leadership. Once again your blind hate of Trump keeps you from being able to live in reality and acknowledge the great job he did compared to other world leaders.[/QUOTE]Are you insane? he did a poor job because again 5550,000 in America are dead because of Trump mishandling of the virus no other countries besides Brazil, India and the US has that high of a death rate. and cases are rising globally because of new strains of COVID-19.
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[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5342318]You are twisting the story as usual. You claim no evidence, the ruling was "insufficient evidence" which means that had evidence but questioned whether or not it was enough to convict, therefore dismissed it. Nobody but you ever said there was "no evidence" smdh.[/QUOTE]If you have insufficient evidence that can't stand up in court... 86 times, then you have you have no evidence at all.
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[QUOTE=SgtLurker;5342244]99.7% chance of recovery. Using the science, Type 0 Negative (me) have a 30 $ less chance of catching it than non Type 0 and 30-40% better chance of having a very mild case so that is now, 99.992 % of recovery. The shot adds about another 90% for 99.9928%. Why should I get the vaccine? If a bunch of medical workers are refusing it until it is fully approved by the FDA instead of the temporary, there might be some reason here. And no, they are not predominantly Trumpers.
Before any of you start telling me what medical treatment I should get, prove you have license to practice medicine in GA and know my medical records.[/QUOTE]I see you won't acknowledged that the disease can and has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans who would've otherwise lived this year and is not "just the flu" before moving the goalposts to a completely different argument?
In any case the main reason young people get the vaccine to provide herd immunity, so that they cannot get it and spread it, causing the death or debilitation of old and medically vulnerable people they live around. Its something you do not to protect yourself necessarily but to protect those around you, like a mask, and not doing so firmly communicates that you don't give a shit whether your grandma or your neighbor that has diabetes die a slow painful death because you couldn't comply with basic healthcare standards.
And while yes its true that Covid-19's direct personal threat to youth is pretty low:
[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/images/covid-data/319360-A_COVID-19_RiskForSevereDisease_Race_Age_3.30_p1.jpg[/URL]
Covid-19 has nevertheless reportedly killed 2,125 Americans aged 18-29 and 6,165 Americans aged 30-39.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
The Johnson and Johnson vaccine might have killed one person, for which America discontinued its use for some time. The Astra-Zeneca vaccine is not allowed in the USA for largely the same reasons. Which serves as a reminder that the authorities take the risk of vaccine side effects very seriously. With millions of doses being delivered, even rare 1 in a million side effects should start to be detectable. Its clear that even if you are young, and even if you are unlikely to catch Covid-19 due to the pandemic finally beginning to wind down, it is still probably safer to get the vaccine.
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[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5342282] What we have now is a Republican party that still does not give a damn about the American public [/QUOTE]True.
[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5342282] and a Democratic party that has been taken over by leftist anarchists who don't give a damn about the American public either but are intent on destroying the foundation of the country this public belongs to.[/QUOTE]False.
[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5342282] This will be the great death struggle in the coming months and years and those of us who oppose the Democratic traitors are doing our best to keep an America intact that offers the most opportunity for the most citizens of this country. [/QUOTE]Change that to republicans and it's true otherwise false.
[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5342282] We are not q-anon extremists, just ordinary citizens who understand what great danger our country is in right now.
[/QUOTE]False.
[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5342282] There are at least 80 to 100 million of us out here who are feared by both parties because they know that we know what they are all about and that about does not include our best interests.
[/QUOTE]False.
[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5342282] The Repubs are still the same old stupid selfish assholes they have always been.
[/QUOTE]True.
[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5342282] The Dems are the ones who are attempting to destroy the republic now and replace it with a totalitarian nightmare. They are the real enemies to all of us now. [/QUOTE]Change that to republicans and it's true otherwise false.
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[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5342313]Your blind hate of Trump makes you incapable of see that the whole Covid 19 pandemic was manufactured, you don't want to hear the facts, you ignore the facts, you ignore everything that happened except for things you can blame Trump for. You are 20 times more likely to get into a car accident than have a serious case of covid (20 million car accidents last year). Only 40 k people died from covid in the USA Just because someone who died may have had covid doesn't mean they died from covid. Straight from the CDC 42 k people died from covid, all others tested positive after death, but died from cancer, stroke, heart attacks etc.
I'm glad you brought up India, the whole reason we don't have the infection rates here that India does was that all last year Trump and his advisors mitigated the covid response to keep it from getting that bad, but now all of a sudden Biden is in office and cases are on the rise again? It's due to poor leadership. Once again your blind hate of Trump keeps you from being able to live in reality and acknowledge the great job he did compared to other world leaders.[/QUOTE]I'm inclined to believe that trump early last spring decided to buy into the ridiculous "herd immunity" approach, and decided to deliberately let the virus infect millions in hopes that it would burn out and disappear.
Remember, this was a philosophy that Boris Johnson, Prime Minister of the UK, entertained initially, that Sweden adopted (in a modified form). So many of trump's public comments (saying it was a minor infection no worse than the flu, predicting it would be gone by the time of summer weather, insisting that one day it would magically evaporate, etc) suggest that is what he was believing. He brought Scott Atlas in because he reinforced that view, instead of having to listen to "real" scientists.
For trump, it was an attractive approach. As someone who didn't actually believe in a working government, it wouldn't require mobilizing scientific and health agencies to respond, it would not necessitate economic shutdowns (indeed, sending people back to work would speed up the process of millions acquiring the virus), and it fit with the Ayn Randian "everyman for himself" kind of philosophy that has underlined Republican thinking for ages. And it explains why he resisted even simple steps like masks. Objecting to anything that would slow down viral spread.
In following this strategy, trump killed hundreds of thousands needlessly. It was intentional, he was warned of the consequences by his experts but he did it anyway. It goes beyond mere "negligence" into predictable and intentional infliction of suffering. There should be some kind of "war crimes"-type accountability for a leader who commits Pandemicide on a scale of this magnitude with between 500,000-900,000 COVID deaths in the U.S. alone.
FWIW, A new study from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation(IHME) has a new number for U.S. deaths due to COVID: 905,289.
[URL]http://www.healthdata.org/special-analysis/estimation-excess-mortality-due-covid-19-and-scalars-reported-covid-19-deaths[/URL]
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Death count
[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5342562]No 5550,000 in America died because of catching COVID-19, I have no blind hatred of Trump, I just look at the facts.
Are you insane? he did a poor job because again 5550,000 in America are dead because of Trump mishandling of the virus no other countries besides Brazil, India and the US has that high of a death rate. and cases are rising globally because of new strains of COVID-19.[/QUOTE]No, according to the CDC approximately 40 k people have died from Covid, another 500 k died from heart attacks, cancer and other diseases. They may have contracted covid but that isn't what actually killed them. Again hospitals get paid an extra 7500 bucks for ever death cert. That has covid on it.
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Hopeless
[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5342636]True.
False.
Change that to republicans and it's true otherwise false.
False.
False.
True.
Change that to republicans and it's true otherwise false.[/QUOTE]Jesus God Almighty you are so full of shit.
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[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5343039]No, according to the CDC approximately 40 k people have died from Covid, another 500 k died from heart attacks, cancer and other diseases. They may have contracted covid but that isn't what actually killed them. Again hospitals get paid an extra 7500 bucks for ever death cert. That has covid on it.[/QUOTE]Please cite your reference. I only ask because several other cites FROM THE CDC contradict your post.
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[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5343074]Jesus God Almighty you are so full of shit.[/QUOTE]Everything that has happened over the last year has shown me otherwise.