"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=MikeYepthatsm;3636163]I tend to see my SB 3-4 times a month, usually on a Sat or Sun night. I almost always book a room using the Priceline app so I can prepay for the room and I have found that it's almost always the cheapest. I often use the express deals option (you know how many stars it's rated and the general area of town but not the hotel name) but can usually tell what hotel it is ahead of time. I live in the same city I book the room and rarely do I get asked why I am booking a room if I live in town until recently. The last three places I have used all asked me. I try to mix up the hotels so I don't frequent one too often although some of the hotel clerks are starting to recognize me. What excuse do you use if you have a similar situation? I have even gone as far as considering putting a fake change of address sticker on my drivers license but have decided that may be a bad idea.[/QUOTE]I only had that happen once during my sd career. I said a friend in the area was having a big birthday party and I wanted somewhere to take a cheap uber to and crash after. I live fairly out in the country so it was plausible that an uber from there to my house was a good deal more than a cheap room at a super 8. Other than that I've never had it questioned.

I agree with Madaboutmax (post 14435 below) completely.

Just to add, an SB (in my opinion) will kiss you on the lips, hug and caress you, enjoy spending time with you, and show some affection, and usually enjoy sex. Some regular pros enjoy sex, too (we see the reports on USASG), but it's much less common that they do, I think.

After more than a year off from my SB (Mary), we seem to know what the relationship is and what it is not. The affection has limits and that's a good thing. Obviously, I'm paying for that, but that's ok and it's worth it to me.

I've done the straight pay to play arrangements many times in my life. When I was younger, I preferred that and I liked the variety. Now I'm more sedate and find promiscuity bewildering. It's not "bad", it's just not for me anymore. Also, I am presently at the peak of my earning powers. I think I'll retire in 5 to 7 years, my income will drop and then no more SB for me, I suppose.

[QUOTE=Snake27;3636796] Also, I am presently at the peak of my earning powers. I think I'll retire in 5 to 7 years, my income will drop and then no more SB for me, I suppose.[/QUOTE]

With my current SO, I can only speculate about how I'll handle sugar dating during retirement . I've thought about the idea of buying a rental condo in some mediocre resort location as a ruse to sneak away to check on the property for a couple days at a time (somewhere the SO won't want to visit with me).

In terms of lower earning years, I think I'd rather keep working, even at a reduced wage, just to keep the pussy flowing.

I've been extraordinarily fortunate so far with aging, still able to pass for much younger than I am -- people guess my age 15-20 years lower. But mother nature is a vindictive cunl and I'm sure she will catch up with me eventually. There is no way I'm going to have the opportunities for premium girls for unspecified gift amounts or free pussy that I have now when I'm 80, so I will assume that I'm going to need even more income at that age than I have now! Maybe retirement income + SS + part time somewhere?

Back when I was much younger, and we didn't have the conveniences to sugar dating that are now afforded by technology, every time I saw some old man that looked about 80+ that's still working, I used to ask myself "why? But now I understand.

[QUOTE=MikeYepthatsm;3636163]I The last three places I have used all asked me. I try to mix up the hotels so I don't frequent one too often although some of the hotel clerks are starting to recognize me. What excuse do you use if you have a similar situation? I have even gone as far as considering putting a fake change of address sticker on my drivers license but have decided that may be a bad idea.[/QUOTE]My answer. Real openly. Have you ever tried a good night of sex with the Mrs, when the teenage kids stay up till 2 am? So we want some private time.

Just much easier than having to remember a fake name. The hotel employees don't care, UNTIL you create troubles. A friend of me running one of the 4 star hotels locally. We had MR x coming every Wednesday with his mistress / SB. One day the mistress acted like a ***** to the front staff, my friend. Solved it a very nice way. He sent a letter to Mr & the real Mrs X, apologizing that the staff were not mor courteous and he would get his next weekly visit free. Ofcourse he never saw Mr X anymore, but that is the price a bitching Mistress / SB will cost you.

Hell one time I even brought lunch to the front desk staff, saying, don't mind the noise we wil make this afternoon. (next visit I was upgraded to a suite).

The hotel staff has seen it all, and they prefer an honest client.

As I posted a few weeks ago I decided to re-up my SA membership and I am sooo glad I did!

I am currently talking via text with a dozen young ladies all of whom meet my criteria. Petite, younger than 25 and DTF. I have done coffee or lunch with 4 and have had 3 back to my place for real fun. 1 of them I have now seen twice and will continue to see a few times a month. She may become the one. She is Asian, 22,5'0" but very feminine. She is beyond GFE, killer BBBJCIM, DATY, CFS very tight & clean kitty and makes the best sounds and expletives while being pounded. She is 1 of the best experiences I have had with any kind of provider.

And its even better that she likes to go eat before or after our dates and hang out cuddling (and 420) on the couch for hours binging netflix.

The damage is a bit higher than most escorts $$$ but not the most I haave had to shell out.

On top of that I have reached out to almost 50 women and am seeing a higher rate of responses this time around.

I think young women are finally coming to the realization that this is a good way to make extra money and it doesn't seem to have the stigma that it once had.

This is a great time to be in the RVA sugarbowl!

Have fun. Be safe!

[QUOTE=FanRat;3641062]As I posted a few weeks ago I decided to re-up my SA membership and I am sooo glad I did!

I am currently talking via text with a dozen young ladies all of whom meet my criteria. Petite, younger than 25 and DTF. I have done coffee or lunch with 4 and have had 3 back to my place for real fun. 1 of them I have now seen twice and will continue to see a few times a month. She may become the one. She is Asian, 22,5'0" but very feminine. She is beyond GFE, killer BBBJCIM, DATY, CFS very tight & clean kitty and makes the best sounds and expletives while being pounded. She is 1 of the best experiences I have had with any kind of provider.

And its even better that she likes to go eat before or after our dates and hang out cuddling (and 420) on the couch for hours binging netflix.

The damage is a bit higher than most escorts $$$ but not the most I haave had to shell out.

On top of that I have reached out to almost 50 women and am seeing a higher rate of responses this time around.

I think young women are finally coming to the realization that this is a good way to make extra money and it doesn't seem to have the stigma that it once had.

This is a great time to be in the RVA sugarbowl!

Have fun. Be safe![/QUOTE]It's definitly been very productive lately.

[QUOTE=EuroInCincy;3640837]My answer. Real openly. Have you ever tried a good night of sex with the Mrs, when the teenage kids stay up till 2 am? So we want some private time.

Just much easier than having to remember a fake name. The hotel employees don't care, UNTIL you create troubles. A friend of me running one of the 4 star hotels locally. We had MR x coming every Wednesday with his mistress / SB. One day the mistress acted like a ***** to the front staff, my friend. Solved it a very nice way. He sent a letter to Mr & the real Mrs X, apologizing that the staff were not mor courteous and he would get his next weekly visit free. Ofcourse he never saw Mr X anymore, but that is the price a bitching Mistress / SB will cost you.

Hell one time I even brought lunch to the front desk staff, saying, don't mind the noise we wil make this afternoon. (next visit I was upgraded to a suite).

The hotel staff has seen it all, and they prefer an honest client.[/QUOTE]My SB is very vocal which is a major turn on for me.

I pay a little extra and get a suite at the same hotel lately at the end of the hall. The bedroom doesn't have a room beside it. You can't do anything for the room directly above and below.

Although we've never got a call directly asking us to keep it down, we did get a call once from the front seat letting us know "the rain is really coming down and be careful of flooding. " Translation, could you please put a sock in her mouth, we're getting complaints from other guests.

Sorry, they don't like to hear "oh fuck yes, fuck my pretty little asshole Daddy!" "Fuck me in the ass" "Cum in my ass".

I can't hear it enough.

Bottom line, the hotels derive a certain % of their revenue of of sex. Cheating couples, escorts. There not going to turn down the $$$ as long as people act like adults. Heck in around 11:00 am and we go at it for between 3-6 hours.

Yes, the front desk knows, the housekeeping staff knows.

The only thing I feel bad about if someone with young kids can hear.

[QUOTE=BillCullen;3641730]It's definitly been very productive lately.[/QUOTE]I jumped back in last week. A few usual flakes but 2 were good to go! Going to be a December to remember. I do have more than usual asking "What exactly are you looking for" in their initial reply. Saves time as I tell them.

[QUOTE=FanRat;3641062]As I posted a few weeks ago I decided to re-up my SA membership and I am sooo glad I did!

I am currently talking via text with a dozen young ladies all of whom meet my criteria. Petite, younger than 25 and DTF. I have done coffee or lunch with 4 and have had 3 back to my place for real fun. 1 of them I have now seen twice and will continue to see a few times a month. She may become the one. She is Asian, 22,5'0" but very feminine. She is beyond GFE, killer BBBJCIM, DATY, CFS very tight & clean kitty and makes the best sounds and expletives while being pounded. She is 1 of the best experiences I have had with any kind of provider.

And its even better that she likes to go eat before or after our dates and hang out cuddling (and 420) on the couch for hours binging netflix.

The damage is a bit higher than most escorts $$$ but not the most I haave had to shell out.[/QUOTE]Good story, see there is no profile links or actual info included. The holidays always bring new girls willing to give this a go. Most decide its like having a bf who actually helps with bills during the time together.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3641891]Good story, see there is no profile links or actual info included. The holidays always bring new girls willing to give this a go. Most decide its like having a bf who actually helps with bills during the time together.[/QUOTE]I thought this thread about SBs, not escorts? Although SBs are certainly a subset of escorts.

SBs generally are far more UTR than escorts (even escorts who consider themselves UTR). And most (genuine) SBs arent trying to see lots of different guys. A few that they are comfortable with and that take care of them.

So no, I didn't post any links or phone numbers or anything like that. I have however shared info (SA name and details) with a member that PM'd me asking and I am happy to do so. I just don't feel its appropriate in an open forum.

I do agree that they tend to be "flash in the pan" though. In the bowl for a little while and then they get out.

We haven't talked numbers yet but she seems eager to meet. Anyone know anything? PM me.

[QUOTE=MikeYepthatsm;3636163]I tend to see my SB 3-4 times a month, usually on a Sat or Sun night. I almost always book a room using the Priceline app so I can prepay for the room and I have found that it's almost always the cheapest. I often use the express deals option (you know how many stars it's rated and the general area of town but not the hotel name) but can usually tell what hotel it is ahead of time. I live in the same city I book the room and rarely do I get asked why I am booking a room if I live in town until recently. The last three places I have used all asked me. I try to mix up the hotels so I don't frequent one too often although some of the hotel clerks are starting to recognize me. What excuse do you use if you have a similar situation? I have even gone as far as considering putting a fake change of address sticker on my drivers license but have decided that may be a bad idea.[/QUOTE]Can always use the "have a lot of renovation / remodeling going on at my house so is a bit of a construction zone so it nice to get a break for it every now and then. ".

Hey gang so I have been in the game off and on and haven't had any luck on SA, met 3 over the last year and all 3 have been stalking addicts. I am really curious about these 2 if anyone has any intel? I would love a sane reliable in Chester / Tri Cities. Thanks ahead.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/5eb86f3c-cea3-4840-bf41-93d94af9189c[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7dcaa359-dcbc-46a2-a790-87f0ca47a48d[/URL]

[QUOTE=IbDaddy;3643736]Hey gang so I have been in the game off and on and haven't had any luck on SA, met 3 over the last year and all 3 have been stalking addicts. I am really curious about these 2 if anyone has any intel? I would love a sane reliable in Chester / Tri Cities. Thanks ahead.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/5eb86f3c-cea3-4840-bf41-93d94af9189c[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7dcaa359-dcbc-46a2-a790-87f0ca47a48d[/URL][/QUOTE]M2324 is one of those who reads but never replies. I am listed as 56 on my profile so she might not be into older guys. I got one that I will share by PM in Chester. Check your mail.

I was in contact with this one for a few days. She will blow your inbox up, desperate to meet. When I wouldn't confirm a time, as I wasn't really interested, she acted like I was inconveniencing her! LOL.

She also said her menu is wide open, hardly any "no's" on her menu so that makes her $ go way up.

If you contact her and she responds, be forewarned.

[URL]www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ae5bf014-6597-44d6-adfe-0560eb7c6ff6[/URL]

I've had a few sb's I've been juggling these last few months which is what pulled me away from this site but I've slowed down and settled on two regulars. I swear if there was ever an appropriate term for these millennial chicks it is snowflakes. If the pusssy wasn't so good they wouldn't be worth it.

So I has a m & g with a pot and it proceeded welk enough that she was willing to go to more private setting. However, I wasnt expecting anything in first m & g and didn't have a hotel lined up. While I was trying to book something quick, she got scared and decided to leave.

I can't take the lady home so how do you guys handle situation like this? Do you book hotel in advance in hope that you get to use it after m & g / cancel if not used or just suck it up and meet next time and proceed to fc?

[QUOTE=Hungre1234;3644010]I was in contact with this one for a few days. She will blow your inbox up, desperate to meet. When I wouldn't confirm a time, as I wasn't really interested, she acted like I was inconveniencing her! LOL.

She also said her menu is wide open, hardly any "no's" on her menu so that makes her $ go way up.

If you contact her and she responds, be forewarned.

[URL]www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ae5bf014-6597-44d6-adfe-0560eb7c6ff6[/URL]

I've had a few sb's I've been juggling these last few months which is what pulled me away from this site but I've slowed down and settled on two regulars. I swear if there was ever an appropriate term for these millennial chicks it is snowflakes. If the pusssy wasn't so good they wouldn't be worth it.[/QUOTE]She responded to my message yesterday but then didn't respond to my reply until today saying she was busy with exams. Maybe blowing up a bunch of guys inboxes has filled up her time.

[QUOTE=Azzy15;3644331]So I has a m & g with a pot and it proceeded welk enough that she was willing to go to more private setting. However, I wasnt expecting anything in first m & g and didn't have a hotel lined up. While I was trying to book something quick, she got scared and decided to leave.

I can't take the lady home so how do you guys handle situation like this? Do you book hotel in advance in hope that you get to use it after m & g / cancel if not used or just suck it up and meet next time and proceed to fc?[/QUOTE]Be Prepared.

Go on [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] and scout hotels near where you are meeting, or better yet, find the hotel and find a place to meet near there. Set up an account so you are just one click away from booking a room.

Never book in advance unless they have a generous cancellation policy.

I have had more than a few girls on SA ask for money for the initial meet and greet. Anywhere from .5 to $$. And a few that want it up front via PayPal or Venmo which I would never agree to.

They say it's to prove that a potential SD is serious.

I have never agreed to this bc it's just too easy to get ripped off but last week I did it and guess what? I got ripped off (I think).

I had been texting a very very attractive young Asian in Richmond that goes by sweetliljay. We messaged on SA a little and then exchanged numbers and texted daily for over a week. I was surprised that her # was an iPhone which feels like her real #. I could be wrong but how many girls use an iPhone as a burn phone?

Anyway, she seemed very real and genuine and interested. We discussed expectations in detail and decided to meet for dinner and drinks but she wanted $100. She said it would come off the top if we hooked up that night. I knew I wouldn't be able to that night bc of other obligations but agreed anyway bc she was just too cute and sounded like a real poa.

We met, she was gorgeous and we had a great time at dinner. She gave me her real name which I later verified by finding her on several soc med sites.

But the day after our m&g she pretty much disappeared. A couple texts but nothing like before and no response when asking to catch up again.

It seems odd. If she meant to just collect $ and disappear I wouldn't expect to have gotten her real name or # (if the # is real). She hasn't blocked me on her # or on IG either. She also has not logged in to her SA account since a couple days before we met.

I was able to learn from some of the sites that she had a heroin problem and it seems like she's in the RVA to try to kick it. She's originally from Brooklyn. It also appears that she had a bf and the relationship was strained bc of the addiction but they may have recently gotten back together.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. The question is; do you guys do the pay for m&g thing and have you had good or bad experiences? I am thinking about adding something to my profile stating that I will not do it. While I understand that the SA wants to know that the SD is real and serious it seems to me that the SD wants the same.

What do you guys think?

Really? So some stranger on the internet asks you for money and you just send it? To prove you're serious! How about this, next girl that asks you to prove that you're serious and wants money upfront tell her that instead you need her to prove to YOU that she's serious and that you require a BJ to completion in the first minute you meet her. If you fail to understand the analogy here there's nothing anybody can do to help you.

[QUOTE=FanRat;3645265]I have had more than a few girls on SA ask for money for the initial meet and greet. Anywhere from .5 to $$. And a few that want it up front via PayPal or Venmo which I would never agree to.

They say it's to prove that a potential SD is serious.

I have never agreed to this bc it's just too easy to get ripped off but last week I did it and guess what? I got ripped off (I think).

I had been texting a very very attractive young Asian in Richmond that goes by sweetliljay. We messaged on SA a little and then exchanged numbers and texted daily for over a week. I was surprised that her # was an iPhone which feels like her real #. I could be wrong but how many girls use an iPhone as a burn phone?

Anyway, she seemed very real and genuine and interested. We discussed expectations in detail and decided to meet for dinner and drinks but she wanted $100. She said it would come off the top if we hooked up that night. I knew I wouldn't be able to that night bc of other obligations but agreed anyway bc she was just too cute and sounded like a real poa.

We met, she was gorgeous and we had a great time at dinner. She gave me her real name which I later verified by finding her on several soc med sites.

But the day after our m&g she pretty much disappeared. A couple texts but nothing like before and no response when asking to catch up again.

It seems odd. If she meant to just collect $ and disappear I wouldn't expect to have gotten her real name or # (if the # is real). She hasn't blocked me on her # or on IG either. She also has not logged in to her SA account since a couple days before we met.

I was able to learn from some of the sites that she had a heroin problem and it seems like she's in the RVA to try to kick it. She's originally from Brooklyn. It also appears that she had a bf and the relationship was strained bc of the addiction but they may have recently gotten back together.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. The question is; do you guys do the pay for m&g thing and have you had good or bad experiences? I am thinking about adding something to my profile stating that I will not do it. While I understand that the SA wants to know that the SD is real and serious it seems to me that the SD wants the same.

What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FanRat;3645265]I have had more than a few girls on SA ask for money for the initial meet and greet. Anywhere from .5 to $$. And a few that want it up front via PayPal or Venmo which I would never agree to.

They say it's to prove that a potential SD is serious.

I have never agreed to this bc it's just too easy to get ripped off but last week I did it and guess what? I got ripped off (I think).

I had been texting a very very attractive young Asian in Richmond that goes by sweetliljay. We messaged on SA a little and then exchanged numbers and texted daily for over a week. I was surprised that her # was an iPhone which feels like her real #. I could be wrong but how many girls use an iPhone as a burn phone?

Anyway, she seemed very real and genuine and interested. We discussed expectations in detail and decided to meet for dinner and drinks but she wanted $100. She said it would come off the top if we hooked up that night. I knew I wouldn't be able to that night bc of other obligations but agreed anyway bc she was just too cute and sounded like a real poa.

We met, she was gorgeous and we had a great time at dinner. She gave me her real name which I later verified by finding her on several soc med sites.

But the day after our m&g she pretty much disappeared. A couple texts but nothing like before and no response when asking to catch up again.

It seems odd. If she meant to just collect $ and disappear I wouldn't expect to have gotten her real name or # (if the # is real). She hasn't blocked me on her # or on IG either. She also has not logged in to her SA account since a couple days before we met.

I was able to learn from some of the sites that she had a heroin problem and it seems like she's in the RVA to try to kick it. She's originally from Brooklyn. It also appears that she had a bf and the relationship was strained bc of the addiction but they may have recently gotten back together.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. The question is; do you guys do the pay for m&g thing and have you had good or bad experiences? I am thinking about adding something to my profile stating that I will not do it. While I understand that the SA wants to know that the SD is real and serious it seems to me that the SD wants the same.

What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]I personally don't pay for a m / g but if the girl travels an hour or more to meet me I will give her gas money. With that said it seems alot of guys are doing it. Everyone has different thoughts on it and really its not any different than guys who gift the girls to show up. For me its like a job interview for both parties. No one gets paid for that. Now whether you got took or not it did seem you agreed to the $ for showing to be deducted if it was to move on that night. It didn't move on so technically you didn't get took. In the end its up to you whether to gift or pay girls to show. Take it as a learning experience.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3646202]Really? So some stranger on the internet asks you for money and you just send it? To prove you're serious! How about this, next girl that asks you to prove that you're serious and wants money upfront tell her that instead you need her to prove to YOU that she's serious and that you require a BJ to completion in the first minute you meet her. If you fail to understand the analogy here there's nothing anybody can do to help you.[/QUOTE]Totally agree on this.

Fact is our time is more valuable than their time in most cases. The fact that we are spening time to meet and treat a girl in a nice resturant should be pretty much all we need to do to prove that we are serious. I might provide some gas money / uber ride if girl doesn't have a car after the meal but that's about it. No advancing anything.

[QUOTE=FanRat;3645265]

The question is; do you guys do the pay for m&g thing? [/QUOTE]Never ever ever. If she asks, move on.

Thanks for the responses! I did agree to that 1 bc she was just too cute and fun leading up but have turned down almost a half dozen others.

I think it's unfortunate that some guys are doing it. Some girls are starting to expect it.

I had an ok dream with ItsPamela from SA last night. Early 20's, 5'4" white girl. Her pictures are very cute but they are old. She is probably 30 pounds heavier now so she wasn't quite what I was expecting. That's why I say it was OK.

Started messaging, exchanged numbers and started texting. Almost immediately invited me to her place for drinks and alone time. She was very open to text about my expectations and hers so I set up a date.

Like I said she wasn't as cute as I was hoping but killer BBBJCIM, DT with ease and I am a big guy. Most girls can't get half of me but I literally fucked this chicks throat and she took it to the end. Then she said she likes to be bent over so I covered up, she bent over the bed and I hammered away to #2 - she handled that nicely too. Pretty tight kitty.

She has a nice private condo in the east end so the location was cool and perfect for guys who can't take a girl home and don't want the overhead of a hotel.

Damage was $$ but I think she would probably do less. She asked me what I'd give and that is what I threw out. I was afraid she'd balk bc a lot of the girls I meet on SA are looking for $$$ or more.

Anyway, overall decent experience. As good or better than most I've had on BP.

Anyone seen this one? Keeps sending hey every few days despite my lack of interest. Wanted too much.

[QUOTE=FanRat;3645265]I have had more than a few girls on SA ask for money for the initial meet and greet. Anywhere from .5 to $$. And a few that want it up front via PayPal or Venmo which I would never agree to.

They say it's to prove that a potential SD is serious.

I have never agreed to this bc it's just too easy to get ripped off but last week I did it and guess what? I got ripped off (I think).

I had been texting a very very attractive young Asian in Richmond that goes by sweetliljay. We messaged on SA a little and then exchanged numbers and texted daily for over a week. I was surprised that her # was an iPhone which feels like her real #. I could be wrong but how many girls use an iPhone as a burn phone?

Anyway, she seemed very real and genuine and interested. We discussed expectations in detail and decided to meet for dinner and drinks but she wanted $100. She said it would come off the top if we hooked up that night. I knew I wouldn't be able to that night bc of other obligations but agreed anyway bc she was just too cute and sounded like a real poa.

We met, she was gorgeous and we had a great time at dinner. She gave me her real name which I later verified by finding her on several soc med sites.

But the day after our m&g she pretty much disappeared. A couple texts but nothing like before and no response when asking to catch up again.

It seems odd. If she meant to just collect $ and disappear I wouldn't expect to have gotten her real name or # (if the # is real). She hasn't blocked me on her # or on IG either. She also has not logged in to her SA account since a couple days before we met.

I was able to learn from some of the sites that she had a heroin problem and it seems like she's in the RVA to try to kick it. She's originally from Brooklyn. It also appears that she had a bf and the relationship was strained bc of the addiction but they may have recently gotten back together.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. The question is; do you guys do the pay for m&g thing and have you had good or bad experiences? I am thinking about adding something to my profile stating that I will not do it. While I understand that the SA wants to know that the SD is real and serious it seems to me that the SD wants the same.

What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]Sorry about your luck man. I had exchanged a few messages back and forth with her and then she went ghost. I actually just noticed she on today but hasn't read my last reply to her. Hopefully she comes through for you but I think even if she does reply I'll pass.

[QUOTE=FanRat;3646541]Thanks for the responses! I did agree to that 1 bc she was just too cute and fun leading up but have turned down almost a half dozen others.

I think it's unfortunate that some guys are doing it. Some girls are starting to expect it.[/QUOTE]After weeks of silence she messaged me today finally. Go figure.

[QUOTE=Hungre1234;3646642]Sorry about your luck man. I had exchanged a few messages back and forth with her and then she went ghost. I actually just noticed she on today but hasn't read my last reply to her. Hopefully she comes through for you but I think even if she does reply I'll pass.[/QUOTE]She actually started replying to me today saying that yes, she's having a tough time recovering from a heroin addiction and asked for a little time and we'd get together. Then I noticed that she's been on SA for several hours today.

I have a feeling she had lined up a few like me, made some quick money, binged for a week and now she's back on SA lining up more so she can repeat.

Some of the recent IG posts are her with apparently a bf talking about how good a thing they have together. Have to wonder if he isn't part of the scam and was waiting very close by while we had dinner. Good money if you can get it I guess.

I hope that isn't the case. I would really love to hook up with her. But 1 thing I know about heroin addiction is that it automatically makes you a liar and in most cases a scammer.

Good luck!

I got flamed recently when I posted about a dream I had with a girl on SA bc I didn't provide any links or contact info for the girl. I responded that it was SBs generally aren't looking for other business and try to be more private and UTR than other escorts.

I provided this review with her SA name bc of the way it got set up and went down. It was almost exactly like reaching out to a BP ad and it was clear that this girl is an escort who just happens to be using SA. That being the case I will review and provide info. I also got a pm today confirming that this girl had been posting on BP over the summer.

[QUOTE=FanRat;3646554]I had an ok dream with ItsPamela from SA last night. Early 20's, 5'4" white girl. Her pictures are very cute but they are old. She is probably 30 pounds heavier now so she wasn't quite what I was expecting. That's why I say it was OK.

Started messaging, exchanged numbers and started texting. Almost immediately invited me to her place for drinks and alone time. She was very open to text about my expectations and hers so I set up a date.

Like I said she wasn't as cute as I was hoping but killer BBBJCIM, DT with ease and I am a big guy. Most girls can't get half of me but I literally fucked this chicks throat and she took it to the end. Then she said she likes to be bent over so I covered up, she bent over the bed and I hammered away to #2 - she handled that nicely too. Pretty tight kitty.

She has a nice private condo in the east end so the location was cool and perfect for guys who can't take a girl home and don't want the overhead of a hotel..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hungre1234;3646854]After weeks of silence she messaged me today finally. Go figure.[/QUOTE]Like I said, me too.

I am pretty sure she set up a bunch of meetings like mine. Got food & drinks and collected $, then binged for a week. And now she's back on the prowl.

[QUOTE=FanRat;3646920] It was almost exactly like reaching out to a BP ad and it was clear that this girl is an escort who just happens to be using SA. That being the case I will review and provide info. I also got a pm today confirming that this girl had been posting on BP over the summer.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your date. I saw her on there. She has been around for awhile. She was doing doubles with her friend Maddie. Both were fun but she has quite a bit of baby damage so I passed when she reached out. If I remember correctly I had them both for $$.

[QUOTE=Fubar69;3647567]Thanks for sharing your date. I saw her on there. She has been around for awhile. She was doing doubles with her friend Maddie. Both were fun but she has quite a bit of baby damage so I passed when she reached out. If I remember correctly I had them both for $$.[/QUOTE]Yeah she definitely has some baby and probably drug damage. She certainly does not look like her pics on SA.

Someone shared Pam and Maddie's FB with me through PM. Maddie looks pretty hot. I sent a friend request and will see. I've never asked a girl about the hobby through FB though.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Tidad;3607095]Just heard back from this one: but she seems TGTBT. Anyone know her? PM me.[/QUOTE]I can confirm that is the old Hailey / Veronica from BP years ago. She has been on WYP for almost a year now. Online this morning as VictoriaWnters. 100 to met for lunch or dinner is her WYP. No dessert comes with it.

[QUOTE=Tidad;3607095]Just heard back from this one: but she seems TGTBT. Anyone know her? PM me.[/QUOTE]But she does look good! Whats her username on SA?

Has anyone tried Secret Benefits, Whats Your Price or Arrangement Finders?

I'd imagine you have all seen that Secret Benefits tries to take over every time you log in here LOL. It does to me.

Whats your Price kind of baffles me. I have received numerous offers and some are from girls that I have been trying to reach through SA. What I don't know is what happens if I agree to an offer? Does she get that just to meet for coffee? What if she doesn't even show? The website does not explain things very well.

And I have seen some SA girls also on Arrangement Finders.

I have accounts on all 3 but have not ponied up money for full membership so I can't message. I'm hoping to get some feedback here first if anyone has any.

Thanks and be safe!

[QUOTE=FanRat;3645265]The question is; do you guys do the pay for m&g thing and have you had good or bad experiences? [/QUOTE]If I think a girl is willing to fuck on the first meeting, and if that's all I'm interested in her for, I skip M&G and just tell her to come over.

But if it's a girl who has long-term potential, I always offer to pay for the M&G. There are so few girls on there who are what I'm really looking for that when I do find one, giving some cash for the M&G is small price to pay to get her to agree to it. In other words, I'll spend many $1000's over a span of months on the right girl, so potentially missing out on an experience that's worth thousands of dollars to me just to save the small cost of the M&G doesn't make sense.

Plus, I think I make a better impression in person than in messages on SA, so the quicker I can get a girl to the M&G, the better my chances.

[QUOTE=JustLonely;3646599]Anyone seen this one? Keeps sending hey every few days despite my lack of interest. Wanted too much.[/QUOTE]I tried her for a quickie. She's heavier than you'd think from the pics. Her face is pretty and she was clean and did her makeup well, and she's young enough to not be a total mess with the extra weight, but I don't plan to repeat. If you like thicker girls or want a girl who's submissive, she might suit you. She seems hard-up enough for money that I think you can get her to go lower.

[QUOTE=FanRat;3645265]I had been texting a very very attractive young Asian in Richmond that goes by sweetliljay. [/QUOTE]Her face wasn't really to my taste so I didn't message her, but I did almost send a message just to tell her that this pic is probably the hottest one I've seen on any SA profile. The way you can just barely see her body through the side of the dress is sexy as hell.

[QUOTE=TwoDirection;3648960]Her face wasn't really to my taste so I didn't message her, but I did almost send a message just to tell her that this pic is probably the hottest one I've seen on any SA profile. The way you can just barely see her body through the side of the dress is sexy as hell.[/QUOTE]I like her face. Its not typically Asian. But her body is bangin! I am back in touch with her via text but haven't set up a date so I'm still not convinced that her MO is to just collect a free meal and $100. I will keep the forum posted.

Anyway, I had to ask her about this picture. It was some kind of formal party and she was one of the honorees and had to make a speech. She vowed to marry bourbon and cocaine.

Be safe!