Massage Parlor Reports

I was traveling on East 28th Street and stopped at Healthy Habits on impulse. This massage parlor is located in a small shopping center. It doesn't get much attention on this forum so I entered having no idea what to expect. Mamasan greeted me and took $40 for a 30 minute massage. The massage room was comfortable and well equipped. I was lying face down when the masseuse entered. She was a bit chubby for my tastes and I might have bailed had I seen her before agreeing to a session. I'm glad that I stayed. It turns out that she gave a good massage and provided services well beyond the standard GR massage.

I tend to prefer more slender women but the experience at Healthy Habits was quite good. I don't know what other "talent" is working at Health Habits, as this was my first and only visit.

If you like more full figured women, you can have a good time here.

[QUOTE=Rossm;6013379]Where and who would you recommend seeing? Curious what everyone's preference is.[/QUOTE]Sorry to see you didn't get a real answer to your comparison.

Has anyone been to Lux and Serenity that can give Rossm a direct comparison.

Stevede and myself would like to know too, I've been to Serenity but not to Lux.

I agree with previous post. Delilah has a very hot body. Looks like a SI swim suit model. Good massage. Safe location. Great rack and nice ass. You need to get to know her and see her a couple of times and she will give you an amazing, covered BJ to finish. Very nice girl. Will see again and again. Good luck. Typically give her $2. 5 to $$$ for massage and finish. She is worth the cost. Enjoy!

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/?keywords=Ebony[/URL]

[QUOTE=Benz1;6014878]Sorry to see you didn't get a real answer to your comparison.

Has anyone been to Lux and Serenity that can give Rossm a direct comparison.

Stevede and myself would like to know too, I've been to Serenity but not to Lux.[/QUOTE]Ok. I'll play along.

Serenity. Higher percentage of thin spinner types. Typically lower cost than Luxe. But typically a lesser menu than Luxe. Longer established place with a known address, even on yelp. Very clean rooms and lobby. However it is located where privacy requires some planning where to park if you have an obvious vehicle. Tends to have a higher turnover rate of providers. And a higher percentage of negative reviews. Has Ashley Winter, who Benz adores (rightfully so) but who has burned bridges with a large number of mongers. Biggest advantage is pricing, but that still requires negotiating and potential for a monger to have a weakened stance for negotiating if such start only when he's nude and aroused. Milan seems like the all star right now, but Hayley is a HOF provider.

Luxe. Higher percentage of full figured women but a few spinners as well. Typically higher cost but more open menu. Less known address but more anonymity for parking. Highly rated women who offer varied options that are usually negotiated up front so negotiating stance for monger is better. Downside is that you can’t text to set an appointment. And phone calling can be complicated because STG posting issues which include the puzzling practice of taking down prior ads (Vicky should know to keep old ads active so we can access them). Sasha, Vicky, Jenny, Skye, Layla and Jaida have all had positive reviews and plenty of loyal clients here. Biggest advantage is more open menu and less turnover on the roster.

So. Who wins? Well it depends on what your priorities are. If pricing is the key, then Serenity wins. If variety of providers and open menu is the key, then Luxe is. Based upon all the factors presented on the various reviews here, Luxe wins.

But keep in mind, this is a battle for third and fourth place (maybe even fifth place as Panacea is making a good run, and Christi is bringing ToP into the conversation). So this whole discussion is somewhat moot. Because BodyworkByUs is similar model as Serenity but far superior. And Hunters Den is similar model to Luxe but far superior.

So in the battle for the consolation bracket, this should help comparison shopping. But if you're more interested in the big leagues than the minors, then move on up to Hunters Den or BodyworkByUs for the Allstar treatment at a better cost than the bronze medal winner. When you can get better service at a lower cost. Why would you need to debate this?

That being said, we all know that we have certain favorites that provide either fetishes or something special for just you. Or other dynamics may include that a monger has a rift with the owner of the place (s) and would never go there. Or a monger had a bad experience with one provider and is reticent to return to the place, even to see another provider there. So in cases like that, third and fourth place might be good options. But it doesn't change the fact that first and second place have already been claimed by other parlors.

Once again. Just my opinion.

G2.

[QUOTE=Gene2;6014982]Ok. I'll play along.

Serenity. Higher percentage of thin spinner types. Typically lower cost than Luxe. But typically a lesser menu than Luxe. Longer established place with a known address, even on yelp. Very clean rooms and lobby. However it is located where privacy requires some planning where to park if you have an obvious vehicle. Tends to have a higher turnover rate of providers. And a higher percentage of negative reviews. Has Ashley Winter, who Benz adores (rightfully so) but who has burned bridges with a large number of mongers. Biggest advantage is pricing, but that still requires negotiating and potential for a monger to have a weakened stance for negotiating if such start only when he's nude and aroused. Milan seems like the all star right now, but Hayley is a HOF provider.

Luxe. Higher percentage of full figured women but a few spinners as well. Typically higher cost but more open menu. Less known address but more anonymity for parking.

So. Who wins? Well it depends on what your priorities are. If pricing is the key, then Serenity wins.

Once again. Just my opinion.

G2.[/QUOTE]If you drive by and look at the parking near Serenity lot nextdoor, you'll see plenty of anonymous parking.

Yes I do like Ashley Winter because her massage and prostate massage are perfect for me. She knows exactly what I like.

Other providers could do the same if they focused the client instead of just the tip.
Something left out of the comparison, I can walk in at Serenity, no verification process and no appointment needed.
I prefer to stay off the database at the other places

[QUOTE=Rossm;6013379]Where and who would you recommend seeing? Curious what everyone's preference is.[/QUOTE]If anyone has a straight answer to compare Serenity and Lux. Stevede, Rossm and myself would love to read it.
I started going to serenity for convenience, drove by twice a day. I liked every session, I was clear about what I wanted and showed providers how I want my massage. Providers that care will pay attention to detail. I'm a serious critic of massage techniques. A bunch of circles on my back don't cut it.
I can't write a comparison, I've been to Serenity, haven't been to Lux.

Thank you in advance.

Is the the same Star that someone posted a while back wore gloves during the massage / HE? I think this one is at the Meditation Station. Anybody seen her? Thanks.

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/black_caribbean/just-ask-for-starr-6167190350/457180778259[/URL]

[QUOTE=Benz1;6015239]If anyone has a straight answer to compare Serenity and Lux. Stevede, Rossm and myself would love to read it.
I started going to serenity for convenience, drove by twice a day. I liked every session, I was clear about what I wanted and showed providers how I want my massage. Providers that care will pay attention to detail. I'm a serious critic of massage techniques. A bunch of circles on my back don't cut it.
I can't write a comparison, I've been to Serenity, haven't been to Lux.

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Luxe is for people who care more about the extras than the massage.

However, Hunter's place gets you similar mileage for less $ so if it wasnt for sasha sending me sexy pics all the time I probably wouldn't ever go back. Phoenix is a similar performer for half the cost.

For me Milan is like a 1950's house wife. She is sweet caring tender wants to know you but not just you your soul. I had a wonderful hour with her. Didn't try and or ask for extras just had a relaxing full hour with a beautiful woman. Feel free to pm me with questions.

Count me in on her fan club. I'm an old fart and she made me feel like a youngster from the get-go. Everything that's been said about he is true. She is an exotic, erotic sex machine. I wish I was younger and still working so I could afford to be with her more often and could keep up with this dynamo. She says she likes sex and it is SO true. Not only does she have a great bod but she is fantastic looking.

[QUOTE=JVisaGod;6016243]Luxe is for people who care more about the extras than the massage.

However, Hunter's place gets you similar mileage for less $ so if it wasnt for sasha sending me sexy pics all the time I probably wouldn't ever go back. Phoenix is a similar performer for half the cost.[/QUOTE]Great example of what I've been saying. The bang for the buck is at Hunter's Den and BodyworkByUs. The continued contention about the consolation round is puzzling to me. Luxe and Serenity are fine. But they represent the junior varsity. Now I know that isn't the answer some posters want to hear, but it's at least my honest opinion. And it's a straight answer. And you've validated that assertion. Not everyone here will hold the same opinion I do, which is not only expected, but it's beneficial to all of us to have varying viewpoints expressed. But a straight answer assumes the question is straight. An honest answer with details about the services rendered, the pricing, and the quality of the providers checks all the boxes. Of course, as I noted in a prior post, if a rift exists, then a truly objective viewpoint will be impossible. As a poster who has tasted the entrees at all four (actually all six I referenced) establishments, I have provided my straight answers. That doesn't mean I'm right. Just means I'm willing to post my answer and the evidence to back up my conclusions. I stand by my ratings. And I have no issue visiting the fourth place establishment from time to time. Variety is the spice of life. And sometimes it reminds me how good the top two really are. Stevede and Rossm. I appreciate your recognition of the answers I've provided.

G2.

I had seen her way back in January and had a good appointment with Eris vouching for me. For lots of reasons, I didn't see her again until today and I'm kicking myself for waiting so long to see her again!

I was going to be a few minutes late due to construction so we texted a few times and she assured me it was not a problem that I would be late and that I should drive safely. I never like to be late so it helped that she actually answered my text and let me know it wasn't a problem.

Fortunately, she has a good memory and she remembered me so we picked up right where we left off in January. She's a cool chick with a good sense of humor and is easy to talk with. She is open to suggestions during the appointment and she seemed to enjoy it. But not as much as I did! I definitely won't let 6 months go by before I see her again! Standard pricing for BBU and worth every penny.

[QUOTE=JVisaGod;6016243]Luxe is for people who care more about the extras than the massage.

However, Hunter's place gets you similar mileage for less $ so if it wasnt for sasha sending me sexy pics all the time I probably wouldn't ever go back. Phoenix is a similar performer for half the cost.[/QUOTE]Nobody would see him at hunters place LMAO sure he will attempt to explain.

[QUOTE=WestMichguy;6016391]I had seen her way back in January and had a good appointment with Eris vouching for me. For lots of reasons, I didn't see her again until today and I'm kicking myself for waiting so long to see her again!

I was going to be a few minutes late due to construction so we texted a few times and she assured me it was not a problem that I would be late and that I should drive safely. I never like to be late so it helped that she actually answered my text and let me know it wasn't a problem.

Fortunately, she has a good memory and she remembered me so we picked up right where we left off in January. She's a cool chick with a good sense of humor and is easy to talk with. She is open to suggestions during the appointment and she seemed to enjoy it. But not as much as I did! I definitely won't let 6 months go by before I see her again! Standard pricing for BBU and worth every penny.[/QUOTE]Could you describe her a little bit more please? BBU seems to have a roster change, don't see my favorite Eris and Kenzie on the list anymore. I wonder what happened. I like attractive Caucasians with nice figures and real Bobs, I wonder if anyone from BBU fits my categories right now.

[QUOTE=WestMichguy;6016391]I had seen her way back in January and had a good appointment with Eris vouching for me. For lots of reasons, I didn't see her again until today and I'm kicking myself for waiting so long to see her again!

I was going to be a few minutes late due to construction so we texted a few times and she assured me it was not a problem that I would be late and that I should drive safely. I never like to be late so it helped that she actually answered my text and let me know it wasn't a problem.

Fortunately, she has a good memory and she remembered me so we picked up right where we left off in January. She's a cool chick with a good sense of humor and is easy to talk with. She is open to suggestions during the appointment and she seemed to enjoy it. But not as much as I did! I definitely won't let 6 months go by before I see her again! Standard pricing for BBU and worth every penny.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review on Athena. Her pics on STG have definitely caught my eye in the past, but if / when I have time to slip away and indulge in this hobby, it's usually during the day and it seems her earliest appointment is about 4 PM or later. Wish she had earlier openings. However, your review along with others, and the fact that she looks great in her pics, makes me think I really need to adjust my schedule one evening soon.

[QUOTE=JustinCase69;6016528]Could you describe her a little bit more please? BBU seems to have a roster change, don't see my favorite Eris and Kenzie on the list anymore. I wonder what happened. I like attractive Caucasians with nice figures and real Bobs, I wonder if anyone from BBU fits my categories right now.[/QUOTE]I don't know why BBU compels so many guys to make their first posts about them. But good questions, I'll be looking forward to their or their surrogates reply. And we'll possibly get an update on what Eris and Kenzie are doing! And when they'll be available again!

[QUOTE=JustinCase69;6016528]Could you describe her a little bit more please? BBU seems to have a roster change, don't see my favorite Eris and Kenzie on the list anymore. I wonder what happened. I like attractive Caucasians with nice figures and real Bobs, I wonder if anyone from BBU fits my categories right now.[/QUOTE]You could try Sarah. She's Caucasian, with real boobs and nice curves. Well reviewed on here. I've seen her and can attest to a very nice experience. She also has an ad on Tryst.

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/come-relax-sarah/021560826998[/URL]

[QUOTE=RaulJulia;6016544]Thanks for the review on Athena. Her pics on STG have definitely caught my eye in the past, but if / when I have time to slip away and indulge in this hobby, it's usually during the day and it seems her earliest appointment is about 4 PM or later. Wish she had earlier openings. However, your review along with others, and the fact that she looks great in her pics, makes me think I really need to adjust my schedule one evening soon.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she has a full time day job so she only does evenings.

[QUOTE=Blackfire;6016841]I don't know why BBU compels so many guys to make their first posts about them. But good questions, I'll be looking forward to their or their surrogates reply. And we'll possibly get an update on what Eris and Kenzie are doing! And when they'll be available again![/QUOTE]If you're looking for a Caucasian girl with a big smile, athletic body (she says she needs to get back to working out more but I'd love to be in as good a shape as she is), natural mom boobs and smooth all over. All with a great attitude. Then Athena is your girl. If you prefer ugly girls with crappy service, you'll want to look elsewhere! She said I could share her phone number so PM me if you're interested.

I think the only other factor missing from these summaries is that sometimes you connect with someone that might be at the number 3 or 4 place that keeps your visitng. There is at least one gem at each that satisfy my needs.

For example, just visited Luxe because I was looking for a bit of variety and something that they offer. Sadly their stg account is still down so they are slow, but on the good side, got the time I wanted and price.

[QUOTE=Gene2;6016350]Great example of what I've been saying. The bang for the buck is at Hunter's Den and BodyworkByUs. The continued contention about the consolation round is puzzling to me. Luxe and Serenity are fine. But they represent the junior varsity. Now I know that isn't the answer some posters want to hear, but it's at least my honest opinion. And it's a straight answer. And you've validated that assertion. Not everyone here will hold the same opinion I do, which is not only expected, but it's beneficial to all of us to have varying viewpoints expressed. But a straight answer assumes the question is straight. An honest answer with details about the services rendered, the pricing, and the quality of the providers checks all the boxes. Of course, as I noted in a prior post, if a rift exists, then a truly objective viewpoint will be impossible. As a poster who has tasted the entrees at all four (actually all six I referenced) establishments, I have provided my straight answers. That doesn't mean I'm right. Just means I'm willing to post my answer and the evidence to back up my conclusions. I stand by my ratings. And I have no issue visiting the fourth place establishment from time to time. Variety is the spice of life. And sometimes it reminds me how good the top two really are. Stevede and Rossm. I appreciate your recognition of the answers I've provided.

G2.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoatGuy1;6017353]I think the only other factor missing from these summaries is that sometimes you connect with someone that might be at the number 3 or 4 place that keeps your visitng. There is at least one gem at each that satisfy my needs.

For example, just visited Luxe because I was looking for a bit of variety and something that they offer. Sadly their stg account is still down so they are slow, but on the good side, got the time I wanted and price.[/QUOTE]Thanks for pointing that out. It would appear my dogmatic response to a dogmatic statement of dissension allowed me to make the same errant statement, albeit from a different vantage point. I do see that both Luxe and Serenity have merit and fill certain niches. I should not have resorted to sweeping statements that disregard what these two fine establishments bring to us, the end user. While we each may have certain favorites, we shouldn't ignore the other solid performers. And I should recognize that we are best served to find the benefits in several places, so that if we have a falling out at one, we have viable options going forward. In all fairness I have not seen some of the girls at Luxe and it's been some time since I've darkened the door at Serenity. It was likely one or two Ashley Winter seasons since I've been there.

So. Point well taken.

G2.

[QUOTE=RaulJulia;6016544]Thanks for the review on Athena. Her pics on STG have definitely caught my eye in the past, but if / when I have time to slip away and indulge in this hobby, it's usually during the day and it seems her earliest appointment is about 4 PM or later. Wish she had earlier openings. However, your review along with others, and the fact that she looks great in her pics, makes me think I really need to adjust my schedule one evening soon.[/QUOTE]Check out BodyworkByUs website. Athena is available tomorrow morning and early afternoon. Strike while the iron is hot! (Or insert your favorite idiomatic expression here).

G2.

An experience when she is well hydrated.

[QUOTE=Gene2;6017849]Check out BodyworkByUs website. Athena is available tomorrow morning and early afternoon. Strike while the iron is hot! (Or insert your favorite idiomatic expression here).

G2.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lily/883801252582[/URL] any info on this hottie?. Pm me please.

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/see-the-one-and-only-cassidy/863510775178[/URL]

Bros. This little Spanish girl is, freal. Menu opens more on repeat visits.

[QUOTE=MrLimpBiscuit;6018102][URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lily/883801252582[/URL] any info on this hottie?. Pm me please.[/QUOTE]She looks. Interesting!

[QUOTE=JustinCase69;6016528]Could you describe her a little bit more please? BBU seems to have a roster change, don't see my favorite Eris and Kenzie on the list anymore. I wonder what happened. I like attractive Caucasians with nice figures and real Bobs, I wonder if anyone from BBU fits my categories right now.[/QUOTE]Eris and Kenzie are still working with BBU. I haven't seen them listed on Brit's website lately either but they post their ad on SkipTheGames weekly. Last few times I booked with one of them I texted them directly.

[QUOTE=RaulJulia;6016544]Thanks for the review on Athena. Her pics on STG have definitely caught my eye in the past, but if / when I have time to slip away and indulge in this hobby, it's usually during the day and it seems her earliest appointment is about 4 PM or later. Wish she had earlier openings. However, your review along with others, and the fact that she looks great in her pics, makes me think I really need to adjust my schedule one evening soon.[/QUOTE]She had an ad for this morning saying she was available from 7 AM till 3 PM. Today only.

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/i-promise-your-massage-with-me/974039053790[/URL]

Any info on this one.

[QUOTE=MrLimpBiscuit;6018102][URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/exotic/lily/883801252582[/URL] any info on this hottie?. Pm me please.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I can't help you out with intel, but I've noticed her ads. If you see her, please report back and let us know how it was. Thanks.

[QUOTE=JpWrong67;6019589][URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/i-promise-your-massage-with-me/974039053790[/URL]

Any info on this one.[/QUOTE]I saw her a couple of years ago. She was a very nice lady, fairly accommodating. The experience was quite lack luster, a mild back rub with two minute bbj and it was expected to quick flip and finish FS. Again, nice lady however I never did get back with her. That was pre-covid though. YMMV. Sandy.

Haven't been to Grand Rapids since before covid. Is Aliese still at Panacea? Any feedback on who is there now would be appreciated. Also, is Di still around in GR?

I don't want to just repeat the chorus that is being sung by the choir, but since I have received such good information from this board via posts and PM's I feel I owe the board a brief report.

I visited "Hunter's Den" on three occasions over the past three weeks and enjoyed the company of Lauren, Cassidy and Phoenix (sorry, I have not yet had time to meet Hunter). Physically, they are all top notch, but each has her own unique characteristics that make her special. The posts on the board are accurate, and newbies can have confidence that a visit to this location will be exceptional, regardless of the therapist.

As always. Thanks GR!

Gern.

[QUOTE=Gene2;6017675]Thanks for pointing that out. It would appear my dogmatic response to a dogmatic statement of dissension allowed me to make the same errant statement, albeit from a different vantage point. I do see that both Luxe and Serenity have merit and fill certain niches. I should not have resorted to sweeping statements that disregard what these two fine establishments bring to us, the end user. While we each may have certain favorites, we shouldn't ignore the other solid performers. And I should recognize that we are best served to find the benefits in several places, so that if we have a falling out at one, we have viable options going forward. In all fairness I have not seen some of the girls at Luxe and it's been some time since I've darkened the door at Serenity. It was likely one or two Ashley Winter seasons since I've been there.

So. Point well taken.

G2.[/QUOTE]You're missing two more reasons for choosing a salon.

Some salons are more convenient because they have walk-ins and they're on your way to work.

If a monger walks into a salon with no appointment, his identity is safer than making appointments with screening.

I have a friend that visits Wonder and drops 250 for the girl to prioritize for him. Hidden Parking and anonymity is why he started going there. Found a girl that works great for him and he's very happy. I showed him usasexguide to help find the right place. He doesn't read it because he's happy at wonder.

It is some people's opinion that there is a fist second and third place or line up. Those opinions are not everyone's opinion.

Different strokes.

Which providers are best suited for allowing multiple pops? I'm attracted to sexy girls that smoke? Who are the better options in that category?

[QUOTE=Rossm;6020242]Which providers are best suited for allowing multiple pops? I'm attracted to sexy girls that smoke? Who are the better options in that category?[/QUOTE]I think advance notice will get you multiple pops with just about every provider or parlor we've discussed here. The key is saying so at time of appointment set. That way she knows when you come first time, she's only half done. And I would assume you're young enough to pop twice (or more) within the time frame scheduled. I would also think a small tip over the agreed upon price helps convey thanks for the extra effort expended. As far as finding Nicotina or Emmy Phezema, or Auntie Phlegm, that is beyond my area of expertise. I'd guess more than half of the girls smoke, but most try to disguise the odor. So you might ask if they wouldn't mind smoking with you before session begins. Hope that helps.

G2.

[QUOTE=Rossm;6020242]Which providers are best suited for allowing multiple pops? I'm attracted to sexy girls that smoke? Who are the better options in that category?[/QUOTE]If I walked into a parlor that smells like smoke, I would walk right back out.

I don't need to explain the smell of smoke on me. I'll find a different place to play.

Thanks to the good men of GR who have shared their views for the benefit of this Chicago guy who was looking for info. On a visit to GR a couple years back I had a nice session at Serenity with a lead from Benz. This week I took Gene2's reco to try BBU and it was great. I'm not a full service monger and found just what I wanted. Nice massage, good conversation and some fun. Was able to meet both Raven and Brit while in town. I will be back.

Zz.

[QUOTE=Gene2;6020497]I think advance notice will get you multiple pops with just about every provider or parlor we've discussed here. The key is saying so at time of appointment set. That way she knows when you come first time, she's only half done. And I would assume you're young enough to pop twice (or more) within the time frame scheduled. I would also think a small tip over the agreed upon price helps convey thanks for the extra effort expended. As far as finding Nicotina or Emmy Phezema, or Auntie Phlegm, that is beyond my area of expertise. I'd guess more than half of the girls smoke, but most try to disguise the odor. So you might ask if they wouldn't mind smoking with you before session begins. Hope that helps.

G2.[/QUOTE]Gene, I had to log in after reading this just to tell you that I appreciate your terminology here. "Nicotina, Emmy Phezema, or Auntie Phlegm", can't make this stuff up. I appreciate you brother. True classics haha.

There is a TLC Spa on Forest Hill Ave. Anyone been there? I am guessing totally legit since it has no mentions that I can find here. And if so, do they give good massages even if no extras?