A. Thats rude.
B. Honestly I am looking for BBW's in general. Sadly your handle denotes that you are a BBW or SSBBW, if you hadn't been so pretentious you might have had some significant business your way. A pity.
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A. Thats rude.
B. Honestly I am looking for BBW's in general. Sadly your handle denotes that you are a BBW or SSBBW, if you hadn't been so pretentious you might have had some significant business your way. A pity.
You should just roll up your shingle now and slink away from this forum. Cost is one reason why folks might choose to monger. The exhilaration could be another. Either way it is just rude of you to question our motives. One might question why someone would want to visit you and point out your faults.
Rolled for a while late last night and eventually ran into Angie, blonde WSW, in LPH. She has other reviews in this thread so will not go into detail other than she still talks way too much and the service was good.
Of course, I couldn't resist one more lap through after we finished our business and wouldn't you know suddenly there were several interesting targets. These were all spotted in the 1:00 to 1:30am time range and want to know did anyone observe or have info on the following:
1) Cute, light skinned BSW, coat with fur lined hood, on Central near The Budget was causing rubbernecking and U-Turns as she wobbled in her high heels heading north toward the White Castle. Fairly confident that she was really a she and on my second pass a car headed south stopped in the road and was calling to her through the open window. Circled the block and she was gone.
2) Blonde WSW wearing pink track suit in the extreme hot zone of McMic & MLK. Looked young, cute, but was wearing the hood so I could be way off base on her looks. On the circle back she was no where to be seen and LEO had a traffic stop in progress in the location that I saw her so not certain if the events were connected or not.
3) WSW with sandy brown / blonde hair that I have seen on multi occaisions working McMic & Mohwk. Slightly bigger girl with cute face. Anyone with experience with her?
It is interesting that Ms. PSH, would make a statement about street action on this board. It certainly would not bring you customers in the way at least the way she posted it. My first response to her was going to be extremely critical, but I decided against it. New board, New Style Site, maybe a new Attitude, will work too.
Ms. PSH, there are several escort style street girls / women that work the street to keep a supply of clients they can pull from at any point. They don't hit the street on an everyday bases, and like to work more out of the neighborhood bars, and might get picked up walking from point "A-to-point-B", without being noticed by LE. They like to keep decently dressed, and you might find a few in highheels and a dress.
Many of these ladies like to deal with older men since they are more reliable, and easier to deal with. The Biggest deal with street escorts, is PRICE. Price is the key to it all. While you are charging 150-200, these women are charging 50-100 accordingly, and if you are a regular you can get a big discount, because she can rely on them and getting that income. Often these street escort are looking to supplement their income, and other than a lot of weed smoking they are not into drugs, street or prescription drugs.
Many time you have to deal with attitudes, privacy issues, sometimes kids & family members, and areas that are not in the best & safest of neighborhood. It is a throw of the dice, until you can get a little control over the situation, and bringing things around to the way they want it. Very few times does any one get ripped off, because the introduction of the police is very unwelcome, so these women avoid problems. They could have their kids taken away, or the State Welfare Agency in the middle of their lives.
There is so much more that can be said, because I learned a lot of what I know from a Senior Member who schooled me about it. So the Given, answer is PRICE, VALUE for your Dollars, Services Given, and a few added value driven things.
I can afford to pay $50buck, and if I did it several times a week I feel very good about the value for my money. Considering I am only going to be at their place for about 20-30 minutes I would say that is about how I want to play it. Sometime if we have a good person trust no one ever looks at the clock, and it could be longer, much longer.
So "PRICE" is the KEY, and Service, Attitude, Skill, and More are down the line but important too.
I was out yesterday late afternoon when it just got dark and spotted a WSW on Elm that I wasnt to sure about since I don't cruze this area much anymore only to give myself a laugh now and then, The girls in that area just too cracked out for me. Anyhow this Sarah girl I met was somewhat normal and a spinner at that, she says she only comes up from florence every now and then for some extra cash for her and her daughter, geee never heard that before. We went to a safe spot I know and had a great time for. 45, this girl was wild and seemed to enjoy herself too, says she is 1/2 Japanese +6 face +10 attitude +7 body she's a spinner no tits but a wild girl. Just sayin they are out there you just got to know what to look for.
Soo I totally agree with the Boom, you never know whats out there until you see for yourself. I personally have better times and spend way less on SW's, but I've been out there countless hours, So to each his own I guess. Play safe and be a gentleman, it pays.
Met a pt this morning. Not really what I was looking for, but pickings were slim.
Very slim BSW. Mid 30's.
Attitude 8.
Service 5.
Looks 6.
I have digits if you've given info before. I doubt that I'd use them myself.
Found Sarah in LPH in the early evening. I thought she was very cute in the face, slim with her long brown hair and spinner appeal, so I did a few laps and scooped her up. Turns out she's 19 too. Decided to try half and half. She didn't smell bad, but definitely not shower fresh the way I like. When the BBBJ started, it wasn'tt great, so I quickly proceeded to the FS portion. Well, after a quick list of "rules" she had, she only does the mish position and wouldn't allow deep penetration due to some medical condition. Also no kissing (not in the playbook anyways) , fingering (that either) or nut on the face (that I may have done). I quit after a handful of pumps and told her to just finish me off with a BBBJ which ended up turning into a HJ. Pitiful, and I don't recommend. As John Matarese puts it, "Don't waste your money".
Face & Body - 8
Teeth - 3
Nails - 3
Smell - 3
Attitude - 6
BBBJ Performance - 3
FS Performance - 1
I was turned on this provider by another SM here. She is better than a SW but priced very close to one. I don't want to give away too many details before I talk to my friend on here but she asked me to pass her info to trusted mongers so senior pm me if you are interested in someone who "get it". Given the fact that she isn't a true SW I'll also post this in the Escorts section for those who want to partake.
[QUOTE=Getnati; 1099311]Found Sarah in LPH in the early evening. I thought she was very cute in the face, slim with her long brown hair and spinner appeal, so I did a few laps and scooped her up. Turns out she's 19 too. Decided to try half and half. She didn't smell bad, but definitely not shower fresh the way I like. When the BBBJ started, it wasn'tt great, so I quickly proceeded to the FS portion. Well, after a quick list of "rules" she had, she only does the mish position and wouldn't allow deep penetration due to some medical condition. Also no kissing (not in the playbook anyways) , fingering (that either) or nut on the face (that I may have done). I quit after a handful of pumps and told her to just finish me off with a BBBJ which ended up turning into a HJ. Pitiful, and I don't recommend. As John Matarese puts it,"Don't waste your money".
Face & Body. 8.
Teeth. 3.
Nails. 3.
Smell. 3.
Attitude. 6.
BBBJ Performance. 3.
FS Performance. 1[/QUOTE]I found her last night about the same time, wish I would had seen this post earlier. Well I got the same crappy service you did and I didn't even get to FS, I donated. 30 for a half assed BBBJ that ended self service just for some release. She wants $ up front so beware fella's. I know better than to give $ up front but I understand on there part sometimes getting ripped off too, This time I lost and after I donated she started with the rules aaaah crap here we go. She also seems to think she not your regular SW in that area she's much higher class LOL yeah right.
Had the chance to swing through Cinci and covington this week. Not much in cov happening. Saw quite a few on mckmick. Ended up scooping up Leah, good looking light brown haired 28 yr old WSW. Found her between marshall and riddle. When I was scooping her up I saw a very hot little BSW coming out of an apartment at the bottom of riddle on the south side of mckmick. We ended up going to a room on central for fun and games. Negotiated 70 for 2 nuts.
This chic looks very hot but upon close inspection you can see some street wear. She reminds me so much of that chic from sex and the city that I kept waiting to hear someone start reading an editorial in the background. She has a peirced clit and a very sexy snapper. Beautiful tight ass. Tits sag a little from to much weight loss but not to bad, I'd say small 'B' cup. Overall attitude was very good but somewhat controlling. Service was excellent but I thought a little mechanical. Overall a very good experience and I would repeat.
She started with some good BBBJ and we ended with mish. I ended up leaving her 60 for half and half and the room for the night (hoping she doesn't fuck me on that). Overall a little pricey but I was satisfied. I also got digits (seniors only) for future use and some pics. I was a little generous but the donation for car dates start around 30 for BJ and 40+ for FS. I'm sure on a rough night it could be had for 10 less, but service is good and she seemed trustworthy (as far as SW go).
I posted some pics of my StreetScort in the Escorts Thread post #2465 if you have any interest.
Same here. Ended up playing taxi service and putting up with a teenage nervous breakdown when she couldn't find her boyfriend. I know it looks good from the street, but skip it!
[QUOTE=Getnati; 1099311]Found Sarah in LPH in the early evening. I thought she was very cute in the face, slim with her long brown hair and spinner appeal, so I did a few laps and scooped her up. Turns out she's 19 too. Decided to try half and half. She didn't smell bad, but definitely not shower fresh the way I like. When the BBBJ started, it wasn'tt great, so I quickly proceeded to the FS portion. Well, after a quick list of "rules" she had, she only does the mish position and wouldn't allow deep penetration due to some medical condition. Also no kissing (not in the playbook anyways) , fingering (that either) or nut on the face (that I may have done). I quit after a handful of pumps and told her to just finish me off with a BBBJ which ended up turning into a HJ. Pitiful, and I don't recommend. As John Matarese puts it,"Don't waste your money".
Face & Body. 8.
Teeth. 3.
Nails. 3.
Smell. 3.
Attitude. 6.
BBBJ Performance. 3.
FS Performance. 1[/QUOTE]
I went threw the drive-threw. Ordered a chicken sandwich combo. They had me pull up because it wasn't ready. As I sat in my van a young BSW? Was setting at the window at Wendy's by the pick up area. She started shacking her head up and down. I smiled and returned the nod. Pretty girl around 20. Received a BBBJ for $20. 00 If I had more time I would have got a room. She did not have a phone but said she hangs out there when $ gets tight This took me a little off guard. I wasn't on the prowl. Has anyone had an experience like that before?
[QUOTE=Toddlee;1102030]Same here. Ended up playing taxi service and putting up with a teenage nervous breakdown when she couldn't find her boyfriend. I know it looks good from the street, but skip it![/QUOTE]Here she is FYI:
[url]http://hamiltoncountyjails.info/?RID=1000024391[/url]
I've been cruising LPH for a few days and haven't seen much.
I saw Sarah a couple times and was tempted but based on the feedback here I am glad I passed.
I have seen a pretty normal sized looking blonde with what looks like shoulder length curly hair and a tan fur lined coat walking just about every time I've gone thru there.
Any intel on this girl? Worth the swoop?
Thanks in advance
Search Sarah LPH on this thread. Not the recent teen, but the older posts, recently pregnant.
[QUOTE=Funkdeluxe; 1103130]I've been cruising LPH for a few days and haven't seen much.
I saw Sarah a couple times and was tempted but based on the feedback here I am glad I passed.
I have seen a pretty normal sized looking blonde with what looks like shoulder length curly hair and a tan fur lined coat walking just about every time I've gone thru there.
Any intel on this girl? Worth the swoop?
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
Cruised Mcmicken and spotted what looked to be a 5 ft spinner near the warehouse looking apartments for gothish urban pioneers. She kind of looked like "phony robbery victim" Megan from the usual spot. When she approached the window I saw a cute young spinner type. I immediately said "let's go for a ride" and in she went. We checked each other's phone to make sure it wasn't on speaker. Police like to use this technique when making a deal. Originally she said her name was Amber which I was told later, it's actually Misty (Not to be mistaken as Motormouth Misty or the older Misty). Said she was 23 yrs old. We agree to 60 half&half and proceed to the spot. She gets undressed and proceeds to show me an open 4" pocket knife that she was putting away. She was telling me she was attacked two days ago and had to be careful. I nipped that incident in the bud. I checked out the view and we got to business. Her attitude is very non-emotional. She never smiles or laughs at anything. She has medium length brown hair and probably weighs 100 lbs tops. Tiny little thing. Skin looked good. She left her shirt on so I didn't get to see above the waist. The BJ was mediocre. She rode me for a little bit and then I finished her off doggie on the side of the bed. She gave me the digits and I dropped her off at the spot. Nothing real exciting.
Looks. 8.
Smell. 8.
BJ Performance. 5.
Intercourse Performance. 6.
Attitude. Not applicable (She had no emotional capability, but agreeable)
Safety Factor / Comfort Level. 2 (I knew the knife was a defense only tool, but still. Damn!)
Overall. Eh, maybe when you don't want to go home empty handed.
[QUOTE=Funkdeluxe; 1103130]I've been cruising LPH for a few days and haven't seen much.
I saw Sarah a couple times and was tempted but based on the feedback here I am glad I passed.
I have seen a pretty normal sized looking blonde with what looks like shoulder length curly hair and a tan fur lined coat walking just about every time I've gone thru there.
Any intel on this girl? Worth the swoop?
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]I'm by there quite a lot and never seen what you're describing. Preggo Sarah has been inside for quite sometime now. You may have been seeing Angie or her daughter Misty Motormouth. Both are nice girls and work hard, but just have gotten "slightly" into the drug scene LOL. I don't think they wear coats though. Could be wrong.
This is some information that was presented to me from a very reliable source regarding the LEO budget cuts:
Vortex is being disbanded. If, you're not familiar with Vortex, they travel all around Cincinnati to hot spots and target prostitutes and drug dealing. Recently, they've been assigned to mainly stay in OTR for some reason. They are gone for good. The current officers have already been assigned to their new areas. As a matter of fact, I know some of them start them as early as next week. Another thing I've heard, is that the night shift vice team is gone as well.
Perhaps this means the selection and quality of the SW's will go back up, perhaps not but we can hope.
[QUOTE=Randyman1501;1104436]Not necessarily to make the best use of their resources, but because there is some community activist pressure behind the OTR crackdown. If they move Vortex out of OTR and shut down night vice, there probably will be a surge in activity, which could lead to more pressure from the community activists and allow them to lobby for a return of some of the funding.[/QUOTE]There will be some cut backs in CPD but don't think for a minute that LEO will leave OTR free and open like the old days! I suspect Vice will continue operations around the Findlay Market area because of businesses and all the rehab that's going on on Elm and Race Street. Also with future developments for the Casino and that damn Street Car project.
As far as the community activists in the Fairview area along McMicken from Ravine to MLK there WILL continue to be LEO watching and patrolling McMicken. It's a hot spot and CPD won't stop making Stings and arresting SWs.
I don't expect to see much changes in the usual hot spots in Cincinnati.
This past Spring from April to May there was several Stings and over 50 guys got caught according to Simon's arrest list. That's a lot of guys and a lot of money being paid to the courts. LEO will continue with Stings this coming year. They need the money and it's easy money and they get good headlines on the news. Makes it look like they're doing something big and important to protect civilians.
As of lately there has been less activity going on in the streets. OTR is mostly dead and at one time the corner of Vine & Findlay was a hub of SWs hanging out for pick-ups and now you don't see anyone at that corner. Of course there are some good days for the hunt in other areas in town but not like it was a couple of years ago.
BTW I had come across in my search of SWs in Simon's hotel and seen there are 3 "Escorts" busted all recently. I won't tell their names here but it looks like LEO is busy going after the BP girls just as much as with the SWs on McMicken. Charges of not only Soliciting but Prostitution (2907-25 ORCN) and for License of Massage (897-5 CMCN). Also charges on drugs just like the SWs! Very interesting.
Now a few of the regular SW's have told me some SWs are leaving town to live with family and get clean up. AJ is one of them and Brandy just left. They're burn out and can you blame them.
Will see if there is a surge of more or just a few new SWs but for now it's winter and less likely to see many till spring time.
Harpo.
I almost yelled out "Oh Hell NO. He Didn't pay a street SW $60 buck. Say it ain't so. I bet she would have taken 30, but now she knows she can get 60, and that killed it for everyone else with her. Man paying that and you are a Senior Member w / over 100 post of merit. When you do this the other naive member feel it is okay to pay the same or more.
I have heard "WordUp, Giani, Harpo, and More" post about paying more than 30bucks for any reason. Once we start paying more than word gets out and they will ask for more, and the service will never improve, but the pay will. I have seen several SW's out there who are more than happy with 30, and call me for more. I just found a SEXZ WSW, who is 25y / o who I meet at Findlay Market 2 weeks ago. I saw her talking to a BSW I have been with and one thing lead to another. Turns out she remembered me from a friend of hers I use to see that was a part-timer. Reliability means a lot to P / T SW's, because they need to know they can rely on you in a pinch.
You don't need a lecture from me. But I don't understand why "YOU" would give up 60, for any reason. Even 40buck is a bonanza on the streets.
Anyway. I guess you can pay what ever you can afford to, but everything has a standard, and it makes it much harder maintain a standard on the streets, especially in this economy.
New Subject:
Has any one caught up to the older Misty from NKy. I have been looking for her for a while, and have been just missing her by hours or days. She is a Ding-Bat, but I can deal with her even when she is drank or high. There was a thick WSW named Christy I liked to see, but she turned into a Drug Crazed Addict. She was wanting money up front to buy drugs for a fix, and was always in a drug induced mental fog. She was always just on the edge of being unmanageable. If you have info please PM me. No need to post the info unless that is what you want to do.
Lastly with all the bad weather, and snow, be certain to ask for digits, that work, because it will save a ton of money not having to drive around, and be certain to find out is your SW is Bi, because if she is then you can be set, for something good. And be certain to ask if she is willing for refer you to her friends, for service, which will help out your contact list, through the Cold Months.
BE BOLD ALWAYS ASK. ANY QUESTION. JUST USE unCOMMON SENSE!
[QUOTE=Getnati; 1103883]Cruised Mcmicken and spotted what looked to be a 5 ft spinner near the warehouse looking apartments for gothish urban pioneers. She kind of looked like "phony robbery victim" Megan from the usual spot. When she approached the window I saw a cute young spinner type. I immediately said "let's go for a ride" and in she went. We checked each other's phone to make sure it wasn't on speaker. Police like to use this technique when making a deal. Originally she said her name was Amber which I was told later, it's actually Misty (Not to be mistaken as Motormouth Misty or the older Misty). Said she was 23 yrs old. We agree to 60 half&half and proceed to the spot. She gets undressed and proceeds to show me an open 4" pocket knife that she was putting away. She was telling me she was attacked two days ago and had to be careful. I nipped that incident in the bud. I checked out the view and we got to business. Her attitude is very non-emotional. She never smiles or laughs at anything. She has medium length brown hair and probably weighs 100 lbs tops. Tiny little thing. Skin looked good. She left her shirt on so I didn't get to see above the waist. The BJ was mediocre. She rode me for a little bit and then I finished her off doggie on the side of the bed. She gave me the digits and I dropped her off at the spot. Nothing real exciting.
Looks. 8.
Smell. 8.
BJ Performance. 5.
Intercourse Performance. 6.
Attitude. Not applicable (She had no emotional capability, but agreeable)
Safety Factor / Comfort Level. 2 (I knew the knife was a defense only tool, but still. Damn!)
Overall. Eh, maybe when you don't want to go home empty handed. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Boombastic; 1104760]I almost yelled out "Oh Hell NO. He Didn't pay a street SW $60 buck. Say it ain't so. I bet she would have taken 30, but now she knows she can get 60, and that killed it for everyone else with her. Man paying that and you are a Senior Member w / over 100 post of merit. When you do this the other naive member feel it is okay to pay the same or more.
I have heard "WordUp, Giani, Harpo, and More" post about paying more than 30bucks for any reason. Once we start paying more than word gets out and they will ask for more, and the service will never improve, but the pay will. I have seen several SW's out there who are more than happy with 30, and call me for more. I just found a SEXZ WSW, who is 25y / o who I meet at Findlay Market 2 weeks ago. I saw her talking to a BSW I have been with and one thing lead to another. Turns out she remembered me from a friend of hers I use to see that was a part-timer. Reliability means a lot to P / T SW's, because they need to know they can rely on you in a pinch.
You don't need a lecture from me. But I don't understand why "YOU" would give up 60, for any reason. Even 40buck is a bonanza on the streets.
Anyway. I guess you can pay what ever you can afford to, but everything has a standard, and it makes it much harder maintain a standard on the streets, especially in this economy. [/QUOTE]Ah geez, did I mention currency in my post? Here we go. Let me explain before before everyone thinks I'm ruining the game! Would I give her. 60 again after my previous experience with her? No. Would I give. 40? Maybe. She didn't look like your average SW. She was young and so fresh and so clean looking. Although unfortunately her looks didn't match the service. There are a couple of factors that play out for me. First off, .02's are mostly what I carry. Yeah, yeah, yeah the mongers wallet. Sometimes, but it's just not convenient for myself. If I have the. 01's on me, I might negotiate a little more. I give a cute looking girl the benefit of the doubt on the first go around expecting better then normal service. Bargaining can also RUIN the experience in some cases. This economy isn't driving up the going rate for drug addicted SW's in Cincinnati and neither did my latest splurge. Trust me, if I didn't think I found a diamond, I wouldn't have offered that much. To prove my point, and free up the supply chain with this young lady, I'll make sure I go a second round with her soon and give no more than .3 to .4 tops.
Escorts have phones. Escorts have internet connections, email addys, and websites. There is an escort advertising thread found here and it makes sense to advertise here when a provider has the above mentioned tools.
SW's do not have phones, or if they do they are quickly lost or out of minutes. SW's are usually not concerned about data plans so they do not have internet access and websites. SW's are not going to post their hours of operation and at what intersection they can be found because they are highly unreliable and probably would not be found there anyhow. So why would you want to direct a SW to this forum? There are no good reasons unless you thrive on drama!
Interesting that some of you out there while making your acquaintence with a new girl are telling them "oh I know exactly who you are. Let me show you". Then you proceed to whip out your mobile device rather than your dick and you allow them to read posted reviews here. I do not see this as being a wise move.
The streets are a different game altogether. All SW's are going to have a list of cons / negatives and on a good night we can hopefully find one that can keep her A game shining JUST LONG ENOUGH or have enough positives to trump those cons to make it a decent experience. The streets are a segment of the hobby that when "negatives" do occur it is probably not due to a flawed perception of the event on the part of the monger. And the providers on the street are probably THE WORST at taking negative feedback when those cons spelled out in the review were actually true to life descriptions of the event.
Consider too that the language of the post itself may give way to the identifty of the monger. How would you like your next stop to turn hostile because of some straight forward talk that was aimed at fellow mongers was instead shared with the streets? Would you like things to turn physical just because you said someone smelled? Took change from your car without asking? Said they talked too much? Do you really want SW's with nothing to lose being able to tie you to your alias on this site? Would you want LE to tie you and your car back to your handle here?
Maybe more experienced members can point out the benefits of sharing this site with SW's, but I don't see them. One thing that I have noticed is that SW's tend to not change names and most times are using their real first names. Having that name and the descriptive detail of the posts found here are often the only thing that quickly allows you to size up your date and whether you can tollerate the negatives mentioned or whether you are going to cut her loose saying that you "thought she was someone else". All the detail that I leave (negatives and all) is to help YOU make your decision, but if that info is going to be misused then maybe I will not be so willing to share in the public forum any longer and will go underground to do all of my sharing. Just give some thought to what you are doing out there because maybe your first instict is not the best choice.
Good points there Cee. Thanks.
I had the opportunity to hook up with "misty" too. She acted a bit nervous when she first got into my car. After the car ride to the motel she actually showed a very cute personality. Cute face, and hot little body. She really didn't get into the sex that much and kind of ruined the BBBJ with all of the gagging she was doing. I didn't get her number, but I'm sure when the weather gets warmer she will be out on the street again.
[QUOTE=Mr Boombastic; 1104760]I almost yelled out "Oh Hell NO. He Didn't pay a street SW $60 buck. Say it ain't so. I bet she would have taken 30, but now she knows she can get 60, and that killed it for everyone else with her. Man paying that and you are a Senior Member w / over 100 post of merit. When you do this the other naive member feel it is okay to pay the same or more.
I have heard "WordUp, Giani, Harpo, and More" post about paying more than 30bucks for any reason. Once we start paying more than word gets out and they will ask for more, and the service will never improve, but the pay will. I have seen several SW's out there who are more than happy with 30, and call me for more. I just found a SEXZ WSW, who is 25y / o who I meet at Findlay Market 2 weeks ago. I saw her talking to a BSW I have been with and one thing lead to another. Turns out she remembered me from a friend of hers I use to see that was a part-timer. Reliability means a lot to P / T SW's, because they need to know they can rely on you in a pinch.
You don't need a lecture from me. But I don't understand why "YOU" would give up 60, for any reason. Even 40buck is a bonanza on the streets.
Anyway. I guess you can pay what ever you can afford to, but everything has a standard, and it makes it much harder maintain a standard on the streets, especially in this economy.
New Subject:
Has any one caught up to the older Misty from NKy. I have been looking for her for a while, and have been just missing her by hours or days. She is a Ding-Bat, but I can deal with her even when she is drank or high. There was a thick WSW named Christy I liked to see, but she turned into a Drug Crazed Addict. She was wanting money up front to buy drugs for a fix, and was always in a drug induced mental fog. She was always just on the edge of being unmanageable. If you have info please PM me. No need to post the info unless that is what you want to do.
Lastly with all the bad weather, and snow, be certain to ask for digits, that work, because it will save a ton of money not having to drive around, and be certain to find out is your SW is Bi, because if she is then you can be set, for something good. And be certain to ask if she is willing for refer you to her friends, for service, which will help out your contact list, through the Cold Months.
BE BOLD ALWAYS ASK. ANY QUESTION. JUST USE unCOMMON SENSE! [/QUOTE]
Meet a Girl named Amanda / Daisey in Covington Young and cute! It was very cold out when I picked her up. Took her about 30 min to get warm enough to do anything. Gave a BJ / HJ about a 4 on a scale from 1 to 10. I want to give her the benefit of a doubt because it was so cold. About 12 deg outside Will try again,
I am a new member here. I am pleased that I have found this forum. I have picked up a few SW's on McMicken. However, after reading some of the posts her, I am probably lucky that they were truly SW's. What are the some the rules and checks that I should be doing? I know obviously to never talk through the window. I have had a couple of girls give their numbers, but I was so nervous and afraid I have since lost them. The only things I have done are car dates. I have had BBBJCIM and bbbjcimws. I have not done anything else. I have read a few peole go to the hotels; is that worth the extra cost and what I would assume is a reduced risk of getting caught?
Any help or suggestions are appreaciated.
Be careful downtown. Tons of activity around the theater. Saw some people being surrounded by tons of cars today.
[QUOTE=Upullandpay;1106454]Meet a Girl named Amanda / Daisey in Covington Young and cute! It was very cold out when I picked her up. Took her about 30 min to get warm enough to do anything. Gave a BJ / HJ about a 4 on a scale from 1 to 10. I want to give her the benefit of a doubt because it was so cold. About 12 deg outside Will try again,[/QUOTE]Don't waste your time, IMO. 4/10 is just about right.
I'm curious what you other experiences have been like, because Daisy isn't all that young (about 30) , and definitely not worthy of a "cute!". There are MUCH better options out there, even on the streets.
[QUOTE=Jalex; 1107045]Don't waste your time, IMO. 4/10 is just about right.
I'm curious what you other experiences have been like, because Daisy isn't all that young (about 30) , and definitely not worthy of a "cute!". There are MUCH better options out there, even on the streets. [/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing that up Jalex! My opinion of young and cute is Champagne, whom Supereloquent has been posting pics of in the photo gallery. Now that my friends is smoking!
Even more reason why 60 was too much. She wasn't even worth the money to begin with, man that is crazy. This is not going to kill the market out there, but it is a start in the wrong direction. I have SW, friend who talk about getting the Foolish Johns to pay more, for a lot less. They see it as a game, and see the men as push overs even if they really aren't. Once they peg you at being one, they will treat you with less respect, and still want respect to them from you. They know you are thinking with your balls, and not you thinking head.
EveryOne. And I mean everyone learns that early lesson. A few of us learn it from others, but we all learn it in some way. So knowing how to play the game is just that. Knowing how to play the game. And with a pocket ful of 20s you still could have only even her 40 not 60, especially for not getting exceptional service.
At this point the issue is over, and what is done is done. It where happens in the future that counts, or what others can learn from. This is a lesson to learn for everyone. Keep small bills in your pockets, and if you stop at the ATM, go to the corner store, and break a few 20's. Stop at Alabama's and get a fish dinner or even at Riches, but keep several 10s. 5s. 1s. Good to pay a tip to help the cause.
I have found some diamonds, but I don't get the lack of cell phone time. I even have a few that refuse to get a cell phone, and several that have a phone plan and minutes will bug the hell out of you about getting together. I even had one call my throw down phone at 5am wanting a date and wanted me to pick her up in NKy for a date in Cincy according to her voice mssg. I had to put her in check, QUICKLY!
IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE CERTAIN. That you apply the techniques and information posted in all the reports. It is a lot to read, and it will take some time, but it is will worth the effort. And read the Archives too, they have answers to questions most FAQ.
Lastly don't think this is some type of get on Getnati post. This is more to alert others that you don't have to pay more than 30 at anytime to get very good service from 90-95% of the SW's out there. If you pay 40 for any reason then you better be making some Big Azz Demands are made for that extra 10. But still don't pay 40. The going rate is 25 including tip, if she is good. But most will accept 20 with a smile.
They expect you want something big for your money. Make certain you get it. They need you really more than you need them so act like it. There are more men willing to pay than there are decent SW's, but to play with. So don't get it twisted, as long as you have the MONEY, You Have the POWER.
[QUOTE=Getnati;1105155]Ah geez, did I mention currency in my post? Here we go. Let me explain before before everyone thinks I'm ruining the game! Would I give her. 60 again after my previous experience with her? No. Would I give. 40? Maybe. She didn't look like your average SW. She was young and so fresh and so clean looking. Although unfortunately her looks didn't match the service. There are a couple of factors that play out for me. First off, .02's are mostly what I carry. Yeah, yeah, yeah the mongers wallet. Sometimes, but it's just not convenient for myself. If I have the. 01's on me, I might negotiate a little more. I give a cute looking girl the benefit of the doubt on the first go around expecting better then normal service. Bargaining can also RUIN the experience in some cases. This economy isn't driving up the going rate for drug addicted SW's in Cincinnati and neither did my latest splurge. Trust me, if I didn't think I found a diamond, I wouldn't have offered that much. To prove my point, and free up the supply chain with this young lady, I'll make sure I go a second round with her soon and give no more than .3 to .4 tops.[/QUOTE]
Tooling around yesterday, (did not have time to sample the wares) , things looked better on the cruise, to an extent.
On Elm near Henry (yes, one of the hottest spots in former days, I felt like I was in a time machine) , there were *TWO* SWs: one tall with long blonde hair in a light jacket, and one medium height, with a dark hoody. The hoody-girl looked really good, pleasant smile, bright eyes, as she waived. Could not stop, though I wanted to.
At the end of McM nr MLK, another SW, smoking a cig at the bus stop. At first I was not sure she was working. She looked a little POed, but worthy of exploration. Dark haired, with only a light sweatshirt, I am pretty sure she was working (she gave me half the look, but unenthusiastic). She had opportunity to walk up to the car, but did not make an obvious move. She looked inviting enough, but not nearly as much as the hoody-girl.
Returning to the East, passed the corner of Elm and McM (again--felt like old times--OTR has been SO dry lately), and there was the same long haired blonde, waiving and smiling. She looked better on the second pass (that seldom happens) , but again, the time was not right.
If anyone has had experience with any of these three probable providers, we would all be grateful. Describe the SW with as much detail as you dare. The bottom line is that none of these were 'discards.' All worthy of exploration.
My shy friend said he is going to send me a description of a positive experience of a week or so ago with an Angel. When he gets it together, will post it for him.
Still-be VERY careful out there, know the rules (the video posted recently of how to recognize an LE sting was right on (sorry I don't remember who posted it).
I expect that these observations are not news to LE. Do you have observations which LE probably knows, but which readers of the board might not? I hope the board comes back to life soon.
Giani
[QUOTE=Jdiegs; 1106492]I am a new member here. I am pleased that I have found this forum. I have picked up a few SW's on McMicken. However, after reading some of the posts her, I am probably lucky that they were truly SW's. What are the some the rules and checks that I should be doing? I know obviously to never talk through the window. I have had a couple of girls give their numbers, but I was so nervous and afraid I have since lost them. The only things I have done are car dates. I have had BBBJCIM and bbbjcimws. I have not done anything else. I have read a few peole go to the hotels; is that worth the extra cost and what I would assume is a reduced risk of getting caught?
Any help or suggestions are appreaciated. [/QUOTE]Jdiegs, Jackson has 22 Rules for Street Mongering. This is our Bible. The site is currently undergoing a software upgrade and unfortunately the list is not currently posted on the Home page. So Jdiegs, for you, here they are. Read and follow every one without exception.
22 Rules for Street Mongering
1. IS SHE WORKING?. It ain't like in the movies.They wear ordinary clothes, and are just walking alone, with no bags, or maybe making a phone call at a pay phone (but if you checked, there's no one on the line). Believe it or not, a girl walking alone and without shopping bags on a hobbyist street is almost always a SW.
2. If you aren't sure, come back in a few minutes. Non-pros who happen to be walking are going somewhere, which isn't up and down the same stretch of road. And on hobbyist streets, the local women tend to avoid looking like they might be in business, unless they are!
3. If she is watching traffic, she's probably a SW.
4. If she makes eye contact with you, she's probably a SW.
5. If she then smiles at you, she is a SW. After all, you're just some dude driving by.
6. If she's with a "boyfriend", who disappears when you come around again, he's pimping her. Be careful! Don't unlock the door until she's ready to get in, with him nowhere to be seen! If you follow these rules, you're in control of the situation.
7. MAKING THE PICKUP. Pull over at the next parking lot, or around the next corner and park nearby. If you're sure she saw you. Smile back at her, dummy!. Then feel free to pull further down the block, so it's not so easily observed by LE. She'll casually turn down your block, walk past. And then suddenly walk up to see if you're letting her in. Keep eye contact, keep smiling. Invite her in.
8. Lock the other doors! You're in a crime-filled neighborhood!
9. AVOIDING LE STINGS. Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy. On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!
10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating we hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.
11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view. You can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick. She doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!
12. AVOIDING SCAMS. If you do a car date, and you let her pick the spot (she'll try to direct you) , be aware that she may be setting you up for a robbery. Don't settle for her spot. Or at least, force her to come up with a second choice. Her boyfriend can't be in two places at once.
13. If you go back to a hotel, and she picked it, be aware that this could be a setup for cash&dash, or her pimp busting in & robbing you.
14. If you go back to her place. Are you mad? The "boyfriend busting in mad, waving a gun" scam probably happens a lot. Since the victims won't report the robbery, they get by with it, even though the victims know where the robbers are staying!
15. If you go back to your hotel, um, have fun! (OK, that's not a rule. If you go back to your hotel, be discreet so the mgmt doesn't call LE on you.)
16. If you go back to your house. Are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?
17. YOUR WALLET. Do not leave your wallet within her reach. If you think you know a clever spot to hide it, remember that 100's of others have thought of it, too. While you're distracted, her free hand can be working.
18. YOUR MONEY. Do not have more in your pocket than you want to spend. She (and your dick) will talk it out of you. If she's really worth an extra few dollars, you can go get it (out of the trunk, the ATM, your other pocket, whatever). Current street rates are 20 for BJ. 40-50 for FS, and you can tip later if you think it's worth it. Remember, it isn't worth it just because you came. She'll always demand a tip, if she thinks it's coming. Many will claim they "usually charge more". The word on this board is: they don't. But, hey, some of these girls are hard-working, quality-driven providers, even though they're SW (really. I mean it!) , and they deserve a break.
19. HUNTING HOURS. They're out at all times, in most weather. I've heard of them walking as early as 4:30am, and well past midnight. They work the lunch hours for guys on lunch, afternoons for guys on early shifts, mornings for guys who'll be late for work, and all through the evening and night. If it's lightly raining, there will be less, but there will be some. Most of these girls are drug addicts; their addiction doesn't have a "M-F, excluding legal holidays" schedule.
20. CFS! Carry a condom. Usually, they don't have one (which I think is so fuc*ing stupid, but then, if they had a clue they wouldn't be SW-ing). You don't want to be tempted to skip the cover because that pussy is so fine.
And the freebie: Every time some SW claims "I'm the best! I'm worth more", it really means,"I'm a lame-ass lying lazy talent less junkie!" The good ones don't have to brag; they'll get your return business.
21. Don't let her use your cellphone. It's a very common request. She'll call her friend, or her own phone, and that will give her access to your #. Which might set you up for unexpected & inopportune calls for business or bail money.
22. Be friendly. As has been noted in other threads, these are people with feelings, not just automaton sex dispensers. If you're friendly, chatty, and warm, she'll open up, relax, and probably be more generous with her service, in all the little ways that matter most. Remember, if she's never hooked up with you before, she's worried that you might be either LE, or some psycho SW-stalker.
As always Play Safe
[QUOTE=Jalex; 1107045]Don't waste your time, IMO. 4/10 is just about right.
I'm curious what you other experiences have been like, because Daisy isn't all that young (about 30) , and definitely not worthy of a "cute!". There are MUCH better options out there, even on the streets. [/QUOTE]Not that much, Only 2 other SW and they were both in there 30s. I felt Daisy was around the 25 year old range, I am in my 50s so that is young to me. I have only seen 1 Escort in this area and that's Candy. A Red head I seen about 1 year ago. Talked to her lately but she is Pregnant and not real active right now.
Golfcart:
Thank you very much for the reply. As I have said in my previous post; the hotspot I have always hit up is McMicken. I know several have talked about Covington. Are there any other big spots? Is there any spots towards Colerain or Oxford that anyone is aware of?
[QUOTE=Golfcart; 1107786]Jdiegs, Jackson has 22 Rules for Street Mongering. This is our Bible. The site is currently undergoing a software upgrade and unfortunately the list is not currently posted on the Home page. So Jdiegs, for you, here they are. Read and follow every one without exception.
22 Rules for Street Mongering
1. IS SHE WORKING. It ain't like in the movies. They wear ordinary clothes, and are just walking alone, with no bags, or maybe making a phone call at a pay phone (but if you checked, there's no one on the line). Believe it or not, a girl walking alone and without shopping bags on a hobbyist street is almost always a SW.
2. If you aren't sure, come back in a few minutes. Non-pros who happen to be walking are going somewhere, which isn't up and down the same stretch of road. And on hobbyist streets, the local women tend to avoid looking like they might be in business, unless they are!
3. If she is watching traffic, she's probably a SW.
4. If she makes eye contact with you, she's probably a SW.
5. If she then smiles at you, she is a SW. After all, you're just some dude driving by.
6. If she's with a "boyfriend", who disappears when you come around again, he's pimping her. Be careful! Don't unlock the door until she's ready to get in, with him nowhere to be seen! If you follow these rules, you're in control of the situation.
7. MAKING THE PICKUP. Pull over at the next parking lot, or around the next corner and park nearby. If you're sure she saw you. Smile back at her, dummy. Then feel free to pull further down the block, so it's not so easily observed by LE. She'll casually turn down your block, walk past. And then suddenly walk up to see if you're letting her in. Keep eye contact, keep smiling. Invite her in.
8. Lock the other doors! You're in a crime-filled neighborhood!
9. AVOIDING LE STINGS. Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy. On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!
10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating we hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.
11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view. You can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick. She doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!
12. AVOIDING SCAMS. If you do a car date, and you let her pick the spot (she'll try to direct you) , be aware that she may be setting you up for a robbery. Don't settle for her spot. Or at least, force her to come up with a second choice. Her boyfriend can't be in two places at once.
13. If you go back to a hotel, and she picked it, be aware that this could be a setup for cash&dash, or her pimp busting in & robbing you.
14. If you go back to her place. Are you mad? The "boyfriend busting in mad, waving a gun" scam probably happens a lot. Since the victims won't report the robbery, they get by with it, even though the victims know where the robbers are staying!
15. If you go back to your hotel, um, have fun! (OK, that's not a rule. If you go back to your hotel, be discreet so the mgmt doesn't call LE on you.)
16. If you go back to your house. Are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?
17. YOUR WALLET. Do not leave your wallet within her reach. If you think you know a clever spot to hide it, remember that 100's of others have thought of it, too. While you're distracted, her free hand can be working.
18. YOUR MONEY. Do not have more in your pocket than you want to spend. She (and your dick) will talk it out of you. If she's really worth an extra few dollars, you can go get it (out of the trunk, the ATM, your other pocket, whatever). Current street rates are 20 for BJ. 40-50 for FS, and you can tip later if you think it's worth it. Remember, it isn't worth it just because you came. She'll always demand a tip, if she thinks it's coming. Many will claim they "usually charge more". The word on this board is: they don't. But, hey, some of these girls are hard-working, quality-driven providers, even though they're SW (really. I mean it!) , and they deserve a break.
19. HUNTING HOURS. They're out at all times, in most weather. I've heard of them walking as early as 4:30am, and well past midnight. They work the lunch hours for guys on lunch, afternoons for guys on early shifts, mornings for guys who'll be late for work, and all through the evening and night. If it's lightly raining, there will be less, but there will be some. Most of these girls are drug addicts; their addiction doesn't have a "M-F, excluding legal holidays" schedule.
20. CFS! Carry a condom. Usually, they don't have one (which I think is so fuc*ing stupid, but then, if they had a clue they wouldn't be SW-ing). You don't want to be tempted to skip the cover because that pussy is so fine.
And the freebie: Every time some SW claims "I'm the best! I'm worth more", it really means,"I'm a lame-ass lying lazy talent less junkie!" The good ones don't have to brag; they'll get your return business.
21. Don't let her use your cellphone. It's a very common request. She'll call her friend, or her own phone, and that will give her access to your. Which might set you up for unexpected & inopportune calls for business or bail money.
22. Be friendly. As has been noted in other threads, these are people with feelings, not just automaton sex dispensers. If you're friendly, chatty, and warm, she'll open up, relax, and probably be more generous with her service, in all the little ways that matter most. Remember, if she's never hooked up with you before, she's worried that you might be either LE, or some psycho SW-stalker.
As always Play Safe[/QUOTE]
Just wanted to help Golfcart and others out (no criticism meant). Golfcart copied them into his post for reference, but I wanted everyone to know that there [B][I]is [/I][/B]a link to the "22 Rules for Street Mongering" on the main page ([url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/index.php[/url]).
It's on the left hand side. Directly to the left of the "Threads with Recent Reports" which is the main center section, there is the Hotlinks section. First is a link to "All The Forums" and then links to specific cities. Under that, there are some other hotlinks and the "22 Rules" are the 9th item down.
Here is a direct link to the page, which also has the "19 Rules for Street Walkers" and "Streetwalker Rules by Piker"
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_mongeringrules&title=22%20Rules%20for%20Street%20Mongering[/url]
Hope that helps some.
Be well and Merry Christmas!
JR
[QUOTE=Golfcart;1107786]Jdiegs, Jackson has 22 Rules for Street Mongering. This is our Bible. The site is currently undergoing a software upgrade and unfortunately the list is not currently posted on the Home page. So Jdiegs, for you, here they are. Read and follow every one without exception.[/QUOTE]
Jry Wild1,
Thank you very much for your help. I have not been following several of those rules. I am glad to have come across others that will help me. I mean while and try to better understand how to use this forum to help me both get better dates and avoid LE.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Jry Wild1; 1108409]Just wanted to help Golfcart and others out (no criticism meant). Golfcart copied them into his post for reference, but I wanted everyone to know that there [B][I]is [/I][/B]a link to the "22 Rules for Street Mongering" on the main page
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/index.php[/url]
It's on the left hand side. Directly to the left of the "Threads with Recent Reports" which is the main center section, there is the Hotlinks section. First is a link to "All The Forums" and then links to specific cities. Under that, there are some other hotlinks and the "22 Rules" are the 9th item down.
Here is a direct link to the page, which also has the "19 Rules for Street Walkers" and "Streetwalker Rules by Piker"
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_mongeringrules&title=22%20Rules%20for%20Street%20Mongering[/url]
Hope that helps some.
Be well and Merry Christmas!
JR[/QUOTE]
As promised, my shy friend who is worried about traceability of posts wrote up a recent experience for me to post. Here is his directly quoted description:
"Picked up an Angel on McM near D&D (remembering how HOT that spot is, I pulled around the corner to let her come to me. She looked good from a distance, medium height and fairly slim, and wearing a dark hoody which made her not immediately recognizable. She came around the corner directly to the car and jumped right in. Yes, she needed a ride... She was friendly, open to discussion. After we exchanged feels (no $ mentioned!) , we headed for a parking garage. As we approached the garage, we agreed on BBBJCIM for 0. 2. No argument, no bargaining, just straight up.
Once we parked in a relatively isolated area, she attended very nicely to business, responding well to direction about roughness (not rough) and speed (slow!). I especially liked that she lingered after the cumming event.
If you meet her, be very nice. She is a sweetie, worthy of respectful treatment, and in my case, well worth a 0.05 tip. She was grateful for the interaction."
Wow. I wouldn't mind meeting such an "Angel" myself. Thanks to my shy friend for the message.
Giani