Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

[QUOTE=BallAllDay;4577365]It's an online system of payment pretty much the same as PayPal. As far as I know it's connected to your bank account. You can upload money into cash app and have it sit there or receive payments from others and have it sit there in cash app or you can transfer it to your bank account. I suppose pretty much anything is traceable. With the correct warrants. And this day and age maybe even without the warrants. All cash app transactions will show up on your account statement. So it's also traceable by anyone that has access to your bank account information. I doubt the IRS is interested in the way or how much you pay things online. But like I said it definitely put you on the grid. Not the same as handing her cash.[/QUOTE]I can't find anything legit that will let you use a credit card. No way am I tying a 3rd party Google Play store app to my fucking checking account. Seriously? Some Russian hacker will make quintillions off this at some point.

If there are any apps you can tie to a purchased prepaid debit card that are legit, that's when I'll use it. And not for deposits prior to meeting, either!

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So a member in the escort section commented that most ebony providers are lackluster or lousy providers. I didn't want to create a ruckus in that section, but it does deserve a response. First, one could argue that's pretty damn racists. Each girl is different. Are there some common characteristics across classes and races? Probably. But to place one race of girls in a bucket like that is just incorrect, bottom line. Over the years I've probably been with more black girls than any other, since they seem to be disproportionately in the business. (See class / cultural point, perhaps). First, let me say I find some black women very attractive and exotic. Tiny waists and smooth skin, full lips, bubble buts and big eyes. I don't get what anyone wouldn't like about all that. But in the end, I've had absolutely porn star dream experiences with so many black girls over the years I can't even count. Passionate 69, beautiful slim, shapely bodies and blowjobs from another dimension of pleasure. Of course there's been tons of lame women who are arrogant, dirty, lazy, smelly or drugged out. But I'd venture to say that more white girls tend to show signs of serious drug use, especially if they're younger, than any other group.

So my point isn't to start a brawl here, or a racial argument by any means. It's just to say girls are girls. Some of great and some are not. If black isn't your thing, that's fine. I don't like fat chicks and I'm not budging on that. But there are plenty of fantastic sexual experience to be had with black women. Enjoy it!

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Guess I need to start a new handle so my post count stays here forever!

[QUOTE=Triptogamont;4679532]Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Guess I need to start a new handle so my post count stays here forever![/QUOTE]I felt the same way when I hit 81 but I had long sold my Harley and it truly didn't apply I had no right to make that claim it is truly earned, so I moved on (if you have to ask you wouldn't understand) in your case I would be tempted to leave it in stone only rolls around once it's a personal choice. But what's puzzling you is the nature of my game, Pleased to meet you hope you guessed my name. Ooooo, Ooooo, Ooooo, Ooooo.

[QUOTE=PleasureSeeker;4625140]So a member in the escort section commented that most ebony providers are lackluster or lousy providers. I didn't want to create a ruckus in that section, but it does deserve a response. First, one could argue that's pretty damn racists. Each girl is different. Are there some common characteristics across classes and races? Probably. But to place one race of girls in a bucket like that is just incorrect, bottom line. Over the years I've probably been with more black girls than any other, since they seem to be disproportionately in the business. (See class / cultural point, perhaps). First, let me say I find some black women very attractive and exotic. Tiny waists and smooth skin, full lips, bubble buts and big eyes. I don't get what anyone wouldn't like about all that. But in the end, I've had absolutely porn star dream experiences with so many black girls over the years I can't even count. Passionate 69, beautiful slim, shapely bodies and blowjobs from another dimension of pleasure. Of course there's been tons of lame women who are arrogant, dirty, lazy, smelly or drugged out. But I'd venture to say that more white girls tend to show signs of serious drug use, especially if they're younger, than any other group.

So my point isn't to start a brawl here, or a racial argument by any means. It's just to say girls are girls. Some of great and some are not. If black isn't your thing, that's fine. I don't like fat chicks and I'm not budging on that. But there are plenty of fantastic sexual experience to be had with black women. Enjoy it![/QUOTE]I just needed to post a strong agreement! I stopped seeing white girls a while ago. In general, the black women I have seen are more relaxed, often more into it, and, as you pointed out, frequently quite attractive. I only wish they were more reviewed here as I found I'm usually TOFTT. But even then, it's a safer bet.

JM.

[QUOTE=BallAllDay;4690210]...But I've had many successful cashapp transactions face to face. But it does leave a footprint as Banger said. Just like a credit card does. For some this is an issue. For others. Like me. I give a rats ass. LOL.[/QUOTE]BallAllDay (B. A. D.) - a bad ass. MJ even wrote a song about him.

[CENTER][i]Because I'm bad, I'm bad come on.[/i]
[i]You know I'm bad, I'm bad come on, you know.[/i]
[i]You know I'm bad, I'm bad come on, you know.
And the whole world has to.
Answer right now.
Just to tell you once again.
Who's b.a.d.[/i][/CENTER]

[QUOTE=JMonger;4683743]I just needed to post a strong agreement! I stopped seeing white girls a while ago. In general, the black women I have seen are more relaxed, often more into it, and, as you pointed out, frequently quite attractive. I only wish they were more reviewed here as I found I'm usually TOFTT. But even then, it's a safer bet.

JM.[/QUOTE]Basically white, black, brown, Asian any of them can be a handful of attitude at any time. Also agreed that AA women can be very sexy and exotic as pleasure seeker described. ESPECIALLY if your into thick thighs and curvs like I am. And in that note and in keeping with the above challenge.

Bella.

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Pics are not her but very representative of her body. She's kind and sweet. Guarded. Works out of her apartment. Everything covered. No DATY but with time I think things can open up with her. You'll have to be patient initially setting up with her. She'll want to be comfortable your not a cop. I get the feeling she low volume. Pretty sure she used to dance. 120 hh is what I paid. She may start higher.

So I was seeing this provider off and on for a while but I keep my distance from all these girls because anything can happen. I kept her number blocked before because she is very needy smh nice person but is annoying LOL. So I seen this provider probably about a month ago telling me she got a boyfriend blah blah blah so I haven't seen her in awhile now I'm going through hard times at the moment so she keeps blowing me up with the usual text example hey honey when you coming to see me? I'm like ***** if you that desperate for money ask your man I'm not a damn ATM machine because your in need of money stop trying to rely to fuck for money go get a damn job it's irritating how these providers think we all mongers got unlimited amount of money SMH I'm tired of this shit remember mongers don't be friendly to none of these hos they don't give a damn about us because it's baby this baby that it's just a front after when you walk out the door another John is coming in to fuck like the saying in this game no money no honey I had to get it off my chest saying what I feel LOL but be safe out here mongers keep your distance protect yourself.

To which I'd add, don't be fooled into thinking you're special. If they're blowing your phone up, she's probably sending the same messages to every other guy she knows. Beats the hell out of real work.

[QUOTE=BLongPipes;4698715]So I was seeing this provider off and on for a while but I keep my distance from all these girls because anything can happen. I kept her number blocked before because she is very needy smh nice person but is annoying LOL. So I seen this provider probably about a month ago telling me she got a boyfriend blah blah blah so I haven't seen her in awhile now I'm going through hard times at the moment so she keeps blowing me up with the usual text example hey honey when you coming to see me? I'm like ***** if you that desperate for money ask your man I'm not a damn ATM machine because your in need of money stop trying to rely to fuck for money go get a damn job it's irritating how these providers think we all mongers got unlimited amount of money SMH I'm tired of this shit remember mongers don't be friendly to none of these hos they don't give a damn about us because it's baby this baby that it's just a front after when you walk out the door another John is coming in to fuck like the saying in this game no money no honey I had to get it off my chest saying what I feel LOL but be safe out here mongers keep your distance protect yourself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BartonFink;4699331]To which I'd add, don't be fooled into thinking you're special. If they're blowing your phone up, she's probably sending the same messages to every other guy she knows. Beats the hell out of real work.[/QUOTE]Exactly but like I said in my previous rant comment I always keep my distance this is why I started doing this is because it's strictly business no strings attached I'm obligated to see anyone who I want to see but I agree with your comment thanks for your response.

Every few hours there are more reports of restrictions and closings. Nike announce that it will close all its stores nationwide. New Jersey is now under curfew from 5 am till 8 pm. I'm sure there are voices in DC saying lock the country down for 15 days. Some will argue to wait and ride the storm out because it will not get that bad. It might be a good idea to take inventory and get your can goods, shelf milk, frozen meat, ammunition and medicine stocked.

Note: People with addictions or no money will not error on the side of caution. Better get your mongering fix now since some providers are just living for today. Some will continue to see as many clients as possible without considering practicing social distancing for their own health.

[QUOTE=Purple45;4708410]Every few hours there are more reports of restrictions and closings. Nike announce that it will close all its stores nationwide. New Jersey is now under curfew from 5 am till 8 pm. I'm sure there are voices in DC saying lock the country down for 15 days. Some will argue to wait and ride the storm out because it will not get that bad. It might be a good idea to take inventory and get your can goods, shelf milk, frozen meat, ammunition and medicine stocked.

Note: People with addictions or no money will not error on the side of caution. Better get your mongering fix now since some providers are just living for today. Some will continue to see as many clients as possible without considering practicing social distancing for their own health.[/QUOTE]Prepared? Oh hell yea Im strapped, just let someone get close to my Bunker and touch my sanitizer and toilet paper lead will fly. Just kidding. I really hope they identify the TRUE source of this bug ain't no telling what someone ate or fucked that caused it. We thought Al Qaeda was expensive and hard to find Whoa Nelly now we have an "Invisible Enemy" to worry about now and in the future. How many heads will explode under this stress. I predict with all these folks held up at home with nothing to do, there are going to be a lot of babies born 9 months from now in Dec.

On a political note, I never was a George W fan but he faced 911 and Katrina I will give him that. This is definitely Trumps Katrina it’s way too early to tell if it will end soon or if we are just getting started and it will dwarf Katrina. Bottom line is Democrat & Republican shut your pie hole and finger pointing and do your job. Definitely going to be a strange election IF we can congregate and vote good grief.

That waitress / bartender you've had a crush on and wondered if they'd see you outside of work for $?

I have a feeling they will.

[QUOTE=Purple45;4708410]Every few hours there are more reports of restrictions and closings. Nike announce that it will close all its stores nationwide. New Jersey is now under curfew from 5 am till 8 pm. I'm sure there are voices in DC saying lock the country down for 15 days. Some will argue to wait and ride the storm out because it will not get that bad. It might be a good idea to take inventory and get your can goods, shelf milk, frozen meat, ammunition and medicine stocked.

Note: People with addictions or no money will not error on the side of caution. Better get your mongering fix now since some providers are just living for today. Some will continue to see as many clients as possible without considering practicing social distancing for their own health.[/QUOTE]What puzzles me according to cdc statistics the flu has killed more people since January than this. It's not even close to the flu deaths. The flu never was a panic situation and shut the country down so why this?

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;4709113]What puzzles me according to cdc statistics the flu has killed more people since January than this. It's not even close to the flu deaths. The flu never was a panic situation and shut the country down so why this?[/QUOTE]I'm sure it depends who you ask such as a doctor, politician, business person, the media, average Joe on the street. IMO it's 4 things. Number 1 it's a *NEW* Virus, Number 2 there is NO CURE, Number 3 it is being passed around world wide by human touch and transportation such as plane travel etc. Number 4 in today's society with our 24/7 access to information be it accurate or bullshit, give a human one small reason to PANIC they will jump on it like a Ho smoking crack just can't get enough. By nature we are like animals at a watering hole let one get spooked and jump and run we all follow, got to hoard the groceries just like the other guy. Oh I agree the virus is real but this is how we got to this state of panic it's in our DNA and everything being shut down is intensifying the anxiety. The good news is give it Time it will pass.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;4709113]What puzzles me according to cdc statistics the flu has killed more people since January than this. It's not even close to the flu deaths. The flu never was a panic situation and shut the country down so why this?[/QUOTE]You are right! There is no panic each year over influenza (Flu). The CDC estimates that during the 20182019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza. So what gives?

1. The world's establishment is in the high risk category so there are creating panic to save themselves?

2. China doesn't want Trump elected in 2020 because he is holding them accountable over trade and currency inflation?

3. The socialists are using the virus to push their agenda of more government control over individual freedoms?

4. The media is politicizing the virus to push the agenda that the current US administration is a failure?

Nobody really knows but different groups are trying to create their spin on events to get a political advantage. The Chinese government has already been putting out stories that the US Army planted the virus in China. Some cultures do not like to admit to their problems or faults because saving face is unfortunately more important than the truth.

[QUOTE=XHippie;4709652]I'm sure it depends who you ask such as a doctor, politician, business person, the media, average Joe on the street. IMO it's 4 things. Number 1 it's a *NEW* Virus, Number 2 there is NO CURE, Number 3 it is being passed around world wide by human touch and transportation such as plane travel etc. Number 4 in today's society with our 24/7 access to information be it accurate or bullshit, give a human one small reason to PANIC they will jump on it like a Ho smoking crack just can't get enough. By nature we are like animals at a watering hole let one get spooked and jump and run we all follow, got to hoard the groceries just like the other guy. Oh I agree the virus is real but this is how we got to this state of panic it's in our DNA and everything being shut down is intensifying the anxiety. The good news is give it Time it will pass.[/QUOTE]I agree. It's new, no vaccine, social media spreads disinformation and the 24/7 media sensationalism because more viewers = more revenue. It will pass but the world economy will go down while debt will go up.

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My first question is always "what part of town are you in". Surprisingly sometimes I get a response that is a legitimate location in the area. These are the deposit scammers usually. This time "she" didn't provide a location and it escalated to her saying "I will send you a SMS from Google. If you can show me the SMS then I know you are real and not a robot".

What's their game here? They kept asking if I agreed to accept the Google SMS. This is clearly a fake ad and I'm pretty sure the texts were from a bot. I use a burner app so they can't track me but I'm seriously curious what they stand to gain from this. Anybody have a clue what the gig is?

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My first question is always "what part of town are you in". Surprisingly sometimes I get a response that is a legitimate location in the area. These are the deposit scammers usually. This time "she" didn't provide a location and it escalated to her saying "I will send you a SMS from Google. If you can show me the SMS then I know you are real and not a robot".

What's their game here? They kept asking if I agreed to accept the Google SMS. This is clearly a fake ad and I'm pretty sure the texts were from a bot. I use a burner app so they can't track me but I'm seriously curious what they stand to gain from this. Anybody have a clue what the gig is?[/QUOTE]Replying to the google SMS will give them your GPS (Global Positioning System). Next step is to say they are close to you by using city near you. They don't use you phone number anymore. Because yo can have anIdaho number and be txting from Florida.

[QUOTE=Purple45;4709686]I agree. It's new, no vaccine, social media spreads disinformation and the 24/7 media sensationalism because more viewers = more revenue. It will pass but the world economy will go down while debt will go up.[/QUOTE]Agree, like I said Earlier IMO we will look back after this is over at the death toll and the economic toll. For example I see on the news that X number of people died or contracted the virus (based on world population the number is generally small) or Kevin Durant / Tom Hanks has been diagnosed Oooo this is really bad. THEN I SEE the stock market in one day DOWN 3000 points! WTF now that's scary! Another interesting news blip today is Millennials are not taking the warning serious the flip side to that story is Millennials are the ones losing the most of their 401 K. You know the old saying life is fragile, I've learned over the years that economies are fragile. I'm old but not the depression era old but I did get my 401 K slammed back in the 80's it comes back way slower than you think. I think the economic impact has Washington sweating right now, hey let's send everyone a thousand dollars yea right. Hey Washington How about some health care, affordable medicine and while you are at it wipe out credit card Dept and student loan dept. Now that would jump start the economy that $1000 will be gone on 3 maybe 4 Escort visits. Since the beginning of time politicians take take take, when their ass gets in the spot light they throw you a skinny bone to calm the natives. This is a real tricky time for them during an election year. I agree P45 this whole virus thing is Political as much as it is a health and business crisis. Can you imagine if this drags into Christmas shopping season what that will do to stores and malls not everyone shops online YET!!! you think Jeff Bezos is rich now you ain't seen nothing yet.

The newspaper industry has suffered for years. What a great way to secure income. There is absolutely zero incentive to NOT panic people with pay per click.

Social media is complete garbage, case in point the "unarmed 16 year old stealing a pizza" who was shot by police was actually a 26 year old pointing a gun at officers, but that didn't matter to the rioters who jumped on it.

If you don't believe locking humankind inside during spring season / time of biorythmic changes will cause riots and mild anarchy in every mid-sized and larger urban area if they tell us in 2 weeks we have to "shelter in place" another month or 2, you're delusional.

The story is NOT "stay away from everyone and shut everything down so people don't get sick. " The story is HALF or more WILL get sick, and 99% will be TOTALLY FUCKING FINE.

Shut down society. At what cost? Is an anarchist, burned down, bankrupt society worth living in? How about let people work and survive and take their fucking chances. The exception would be 60+ age range and actively-compromised people.

The shit is going to hit the fan. Just wait. I can tell you right now, they will arrest me before they keep me inside til June. Ain't happen. Shoot me.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;4710342]The newspaper industry has suffered for years. What a great way to secure income. There is absolutely zero incentive to NOT panic people with pay per click.

Social media is complete garbage, case in point the "unarmed 16 year old stealing a pizza" who was shot by police was actually a 26 year old pointing a gun at officers, but that didn't matter to the rioters who jumped on it.

If you don't believe locking humankind inside during spring season / time of biorythmic changes will cause riots and mild anarchy in every mid-sized and larger urban area if they tell us in 2 weeks we have to "shelter in place" another month or 2, you're delusional.

The story is NOT "stay away from everyone and shut everything down so people don't get sick. " The story is HALF or more WILL get sick, and 99% will be TOTALLY FUCKING FINE.

Shut down society. At what cost? Is an anarchist, burned down, bankrupt society worth living in? How about let people work and survive and take their fucking chances. The exception would be 60+ age range and actively-compromised people.

The shit is going to hit the fan. Just wait. I can tell you right now, they will arrest me before they keep me inside til June. Ain't happen. Shoot me.[/QUOTE]When we have JUST ONE business industry get into trouble it's a big threat to our economy and other countries. Remember you old timers when the Auto industry was about to fold, the oil embargo during the Jimmy Carter days, recently the housing and banking funk the government had to bail out. Now they are basically telling EVERYONE in business to close shop. We are all connected trough business we are either buying or selling to each other everyday. Bringing this big ass economic machine to a halt for just a few days can be dangerous. To do it for weeks or months God Damn be careful Mr Politician and Media Talking Head pay attention to your actions and hype. The virus is bad, fucked up decisions are far worse and last longer. Im sure they read the board and will take my advice, LOL..

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[QUOTE=Purple45;4710869][URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/[/URL][/QUOTE]There's an interesting article on WRAL web page that compares Coronavirus to the regular Flu, check it out it's the little article hidden by today's headlines. It basically says there have been approx millions and millions of Flu cases diagnosed, 500,000 infections that caused hospitalization Tens of Thousands of DEATHS Just in This Country the USA, yep you guessed it just the REGULAR Flu. Again all these were just in the USA, 35,000 were in NC alone. Compare this info to P45's post. Where was the shut down everything got to buy a month supply of toilet paper stand 6 feet away from me OMFG PANIC? I Truly hope we learn something from this bullshit. There will be millions that suffer from this Coronavirus but it wont be because they got it.

We have a flu shot, we have flu meds, flu is not spread at the rate as this virus. The flu does not attack your respiratory system as this virus does. The flu does not overwhelm our hospitals & infect hospital workers at this alarming rate like this virus will. When we run out of hospital rooms then what do you do with the normal injuries and sicknesses that happen daily? We still do not have enough test. If you think this fake news visit your local hospital in two weeks and take a look for yourself. Human nature we don't believe unless we see or feel it I get that but by then it will be too late. Just take one simple example have you ever seen the flu wipe out almost an entire retirement home? Rant over we are risk takers that why we monger but decades of mongering with several dangers this one has stopped me in my tracks.

[QUOTE=XHippie;4711096]There's an interesting article on WRAL web page that compares Coronavirus to the regular Flu, check it out it's the little article hidden by today's headlines. It basically says there have been approx millions and millions of Flu cases diagnosed, 500,000 infections that caused hospitalization Tens of Thousands of DEATHS Just in This Country the USA yep you guessed it, just the REGULAR Flu. Again all these were just in the USA, 35,000 were in NC alone. Compare this info to P45's post. Where was the shut down everything got to buy a month supply of toilet paper stand 6 feet away from me OMFG PANIC? I Truly hope we learn something from this bullshit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sobe69;4711123]We have a flu shot, we have flu meds, flu is not spread at the rate as this virus. The flu does not attack your respiratory system as this virus does. The flu does not overwhelm our hospitals & infect hospital workers at this alarming rate like this virus will. When we run out of hospital rooms then what do you do with the normal injuries and sicknesses that happen daily? We still do not have enough test. If you think this fake news visit your local hospital in two weeks and take a look for yourself. Human nature we don't believe unless we see or feel it I get that but by then it will be too late. Just take one simple example have you ever seen the flu wipe out almost an entire retirement home? Rant over we are risk takers that why we monger but decades of mongering with several dangers this one has stopped me in my tracks.[/QUOTE]Oh don't worry Fake News is not in my vocabulary the virus is real and growing because it's new and no vaccine. Hospitals running out of the ability or capacity to handle a surge is scary. My question and concern noted in my recent rant post is the panic shutting down local business's and Corporations. Is this the correct action to take? This affects Millons and Millions that are one or a few paychecks from disaster. Of course if I get the virus then it's easy to then say oh that's why they are shutting everything down I sure hope I survive OR It can also work the other way when you are healthy and now have no job to pay your bills you start to ask did they really need to close everything, the average person is one or a few paychecks from disaster. The economic / jobs threat of this situation is very dangerous and as you say has stopped me in my tracks as well. It's very early but I predict the word unemployment will be mentioned as much as the virus.

[QUOTE=XHippie;4711096]There's an interesting article on WRAL web page that compares Coronavirus to the regular Flu, check it out it's the little article hidden by today's headlines. It basically says there have been approx millions and millions of Flu cases diagnosed, 500,000 infections that caused hospitalization Tens of Thousands of DEATHS Just in This Country the USA, yep you guessed it just the REGULAR Flu. Again all these were just in the USA, 35,000 were in NC alone. Compare this info to P45's post. Where was the shut down everything got to buy a month supply of toilet paper stand 6 feet away from me OMFG PANIC? I Truly hope we learn something from this bullshit. There will be millions that suffer from this Coronavirus but it wont be because they got it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sobe69;4711123]We have a flu shot, we have flu meds, flu is not spread at the rate as this virus. The flu does not attack your respiratory system as this virus does. The flu does not overwhelm our hospitals & infect hospital workers at this alarming rate like this virus will. When we run out of hospital rooms then what do you do with the normal injuries and sicknesses that happen daily? We still do not have enough test. If you think this fake news visit your local hospital in two weeks and take a look for yourself. Human nature we don't believe unless we see or feel it I get that but by then it will be too late. Just take one simple example have you ever seen the flu wipe out almost an entire retirement home? Rant over we are risk takers that why we monger but decades of mongering with several dangers this one has stopped me in my tracks.[/QUOTE]Coronavirus is one of the major pathogens that primarily targets the human respiratory system. Previous outbreaks of coronaviruses (CoVs) include the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS-CoV) and the Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS-CoV) which have been previously characterized as a public health threat. This started at the exotic wet animal market in Wuhan, China where bats, snakes, dogs, cats, rats and anything else you can imagined is sold and slaughtered in an unsanitary environment. All of the living and dead animals, birds and fish were exposed to bodily fluids and shit. A recipe for disaster and cause of these past and present zoonotic viruses. This Coronavirus (COVID19) early cases were linked to that animal market so it's no wonder that the Chinese are trying to rewrite the story and shift the blame elsewhere.

Influenza (Flu) is the most common cause of pneumonia which is also a repository system virus. It's all serious but a lot of people who get the Cold or Flu never see a doctor and they ride it out at home. Right now because of hype people with any kind of symptoms are going to the doctor. Pollen is out and people are sneezing and coughing but people will rush to the doctor and exhaust the available COVID19 test kits when health officials should be saving them for those in the high risk category. The elderly and those with pre-exisisting health conditions (Diabetes and Cardiovascular alignments) should be concerned about COVID19. Alcoholics and druggies should be worried because they already have weak immune systems. The homeless should get to a shelter and practice good hygiene. I'm more concerned about politics overriding sound judgment, unnecessary panic that leads to foolish decisions and the economic impact.

[QUOTE=Sobe69;4711123]We have a flu shot, we have flu meds, flu is not spread at the rate as this virus. The flu does not attack your respiratory system as this virus does. The flu does not overwhelm our hospitals & infect hospital workers at this alarming rate like this virus will. When we run out of hospital rooms then what do you do with the normal injuries and sicknesses that happen daily? We still do not have enough test. If you think this fake news visit your local hospital in two weeks and take a look for yourself. Human nature we don't believe unless we see or feel it I get that but by then it will be too late. Just take one simple example have you ever seen the flu wipe out almost an entire retirement home? Rant over we are risk takers that why we monger but decades of mongering with several dangers this one has stopped me in my tracks.[/QUOTE]Oh don't worry Fake News is not in my vocabulary the virus is real and growing because it's new and no vaccine. Hospitals running out of the ability or capacity to handle a surge is scary. My question and concern noted in my recent rant post is the panic shutting down local business's and Corporations. Is this the correct action to take? This affects Millons and Millions that are one or a few paychecks from disaster. Of course if I get the virus then it's easy to then say oh that's why they are shutting everything down I sure hope I survive OR It can also work the other way when you are healthy and now have no job to pay your bills you start to ask did they really need to close everything, the average person is one or a few paychecks from disaster. The economic / jobs threat of this situation is very dangerous and as you say has stopped me in my tracks as well. It's very early but I predict the word unemployment will be mentioned as much as the virus.

Gotcha I have way too many people in my orbit thinking this is not real. Well we can only looks at Italy & China to and see the ramifications of actions vs no actions to curve the trend line. I feel you on the economic front but when I see Billionaires closing shop on their own before a government mandate I feel more comfortable that this is what we need to do. I know a ton of people in the medical field and the terrified as they go to work ever day risking their lives & their families lives in a bigger way than they ever had before and on the other side kids are partying at the beach like life is normal. I think either way we would be screwed do nothing and the hospitals get over run would bring the country to a standstill as well. Just image a football stadium of 80 k people and just 1/2 get infected and the local hospital has 500 beds that are half full already.

Enough of this depressing shit. So can someone ask Dr. Fauci if I can get corona from a BBBJ LOL.

[QUOTE=XHippie;4711238]Oh don't worry Fake News is not in my vocabulary the virus is real and growing because it's new and no vaccine. Hospitals running out of the ability or capacity to handle a surge is scary. My question and concern noted in my recent rant post is the panic shutting down local business's and Corporations. Is this the correct action to take? This affects Millons and Millions that are one or a few paychecks from disaster. Of course if I get the virus then it's easy to then say oh that's why they are shutting everything down I sure hope I survive OR It can also work the other way when you are healthy and now have no job to pay your bills you start to ask did they really need to close everything, the average person is one or a few paychecks from disaster. The economic / jobs threat of this situation is very dangerous and as you say has stopped me in my tracks as well. It's very early but I predict the word unemployment will be mentioned as much as the virus.[/QUOTE]

"when I see Billionaires closing shop on their own before a government mandate I feel more comfortable that this is what we need to do. ".

Billionaires aren't paycheck to paycheck. Also, they can afford. Literally - to take the most conservative course of action. And didn't Bernie teach you that "The Billionayahs" don't care about the little guy? Case in point.

Disclaimer: I am NOT a Bernie Bro! No no nooooooo.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;4711542]"when I see Billionaires closing shop on their own before a government mandate I feel more comfortable that this is what we need to do. ".

Billionaires aren't paycheck to paycheck. Also, they can afford. Literally - to take the most conservative course of action. And didn't Bernie teach you that "The Billionayahs" don't care about the little guy? Case in point.

Disclaimer: I am NOT a Bernie Bro! No no nooooooo.[/QUOTE]First it Was Yang talking about cutting checks, then the other day Trumps crew started talking about the $1000 check, and I swore I saw a news clip of Bernie saying he would propose a $2000 check "each month" for at least 6 months then reevaluate. Whoa back up the train $2000 each month you would think that kind of talk would get some votes. Billionayahs LOL, that's a damn good imitation Amateur11.

I've gotten a lot of DM's about the waitress I know and Hooters girls and local dancers, etc. So, I figured, I'd clarify.

1.) I wasn't referring to any specific Hooter's girl. I just meant "shoot your shot" - via social media, etc. That's what I am doing.

2.) Dancers / Strippers. Same point. They are out of work -- make them an offer they can't refuse.

3.) Waitresses / etc -- while I WAS speaking of someone specific in this instance, it's someone I know and I take the time to "cultivate" potential UTR situations. These aren't usually "shareable" ladies b / c they aren't even really looking to get into the lifestyle, but, for the right situation, they MIGHT consider it. Honestly, most of the time, it doesn't go ANYWHERE past a preliminary conversation. But, when you DO find one.

Like the above, I was using it to make a point that any and all options are out there, if you are willing to work at it. There's tons of college girls home right now with ZERO to do and aren't able to work their usual part-time jobs back at school.

Think outside the box. (Pun very much intended).

Like many of you I've been in this hobby for many years (around 15) off and on. I've mostly come to this site to read about the "dreams" guys had with different girls. Often I will read reviews of negative dreams that state "she wasn't that into it" or "she seemed distracted, distant" etc.

So my question is twofold: Do you believe these women are in this business for pleasure or necessity? And also, does it matter to you in regards to your overall experience? I've been in this hobby for many years ('round 15, again) and I've found that most of these girls dislike this business and do it out of necessity, many times to feed their demons, so I don't expect "service with a smile" as some on here seem to expect. They're trying to get you out of there and finish the "dream" ASAP.

I'm sure many of you know this, but I'm still curious because of the reviews that I read.

Yours always,

The lovable Dick JOnes (OCP).

[QUOTE=DickJones;4715235]Like many of you I've been in this hobby for many years (around 15) off and on. I've mostly come to this site to read about the "dreams" guys had with different girls. Often I will read reviews of negative dreams that state "she wasn't that into it" or "she seemed distracted, distant" etc.

So my question is twofold: Do you believe these women are in this business for pleasure or necessity? And also, does it matter to you in regards to your overall experience? I've been in this hobby for many years ('round 15, again) and I've found that most of these girls dislike this business and do it out of necessity, many times to feed their demons, so I don't expect "service with a smile" as some on here seem to expect. They're trying to get you out of there and finish the "dream" ASAP.

I'm sure many of you know this, but I'm still curious because of the reviews that I read.

Yours always,

The lovable Dick JOnes (OCP).[/QUOTE]Most are in this because they were forced into it not because of demons, but because someone pushed them into it. And few are in this because of necessity.

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4715361]Most are in this because they were forced into it not because of demons, but because someone pushed them into it. And few are in this because of necessity.[/QUOTE]While that certainly exists, especially in the form of sex trafficking, I doubt most women in the so-called free (though rapidly becoming less so) world are forced to do this in the 21st century. At least the one's that I've encountered during my time. Many have criminal records that prevent them from getting good square gigs. Or a lack of education with a few crumb snatchers to feed. Or they lost their job and need extra funds. Some moonlight on the weekend and have square jobs during the weekday. And of course women who are living the street life and end up fighting a demon or three. Basically, women who feel that they have few options to make a decent living so the sell what every woman has the option to to sell. But forced, when a woman can go to the law at any moment and get a guy convicted of a trafficking charge that carries 40 years behind bars? Perhaps your "dreamates" have been much different from mine, though each to his or her own.

From my conversations these are the Top 4 reasons girls want to be a provider.

1 - Make a lot of money fast and then quit so college and car is paid for in cash.

2 - Husband or boyfriend can't hold a job so they do what they can too put food on the table.

3 - Forced into it because of drugs or pimp and they can't stop because of burnt bridges with family and friends.

4 - They love sex or live their life fantasizing about being men's favorite playmate.

From my experiences there are 5 Tiers of providers. **Note: If a customer likes the girl or is emotional attached then the customer's perspective is biased and the girl will always be rated higher because of personal feelings.

Tier 1 - These girls know what a man wants and they set the mood and the service feels genuine. A smart girl will know that if a man likes what he sees, gets value for the dollar and has a good time then he will repeat. She knows that good reviews equals new and repeat customers.

Tier 2 - The girl looks good, is clean and gives the customer the allotted time but the service is lacking. She is happy to see you but when the donation is laid down its business the rest of the way. The girl will assume the positions but is not an active participant and will often fake her enjoyment.

Tier 3 - The girl looks good and is clean but is distracted. She will overbook and can't be counted on to be ready on time. During your appointment you have to deal with someone in the bathroom, someone knocking at the door and she can't stop looking at her phone. She means well because but she can't separate her personal life from her business.

Tier 4 - The girl's up-keep is so so and she might not be clean for your visit. She will not respond in a timely manner and will leave you hanging once a time has been agreed upon. She is probably high or has bruises when you see her. You would like to stay longer or repeat more often if the situation was better.

Tier 5 - The girl is a disaster or the environment feels unsafe and you're really feel sorry that you scheduled. You are glad it was only a QV so you leave the donation without any service and exit as fast as you can.

[QUOTE=Purple45;4715904]From my conversations these are the Top 4 reasons girls want to be a provider.

1 - Make a lot of money fast and then quit so college and car is paid for in cash.

2 - Husband or boyfriend can't hold a job so they do what they can too put food on the table.

3 - Forced into it because of drugs or pimp and they can't stop because of burnt bridges with family and friends.

4 - They love sex or live their life fantasizing about being men's favorite playmate.

From my experiences there are 5 Tiers of providers. **Note: If a customer likes the girl or is emotional attached then the customer's perspective is biased and the girl will always be rated higher because of personal feelings.

Tier 1 - These girls know what a man wants and they set the mood and the service feels genuine. A smart girl will know that if a man likes what he sees, gets value for the dollar and has a good time then he will repeat. She knows that good reviews equals new and repeat customers.

Tier 2 - The girl looks good, is clean and gives the customer the allotted time but the service is lacking. She is happy to see you but when the donation is laid down its business the rest of the way. The girl will assume the positions but is not an active participant and will often fake her enjoyment.

Tier 3 - The girl looks good and is clean but is distracted. She will overbook and can't be counted on to be ready on time. During your appointment you have to deal with someone in the bathroom, someone knocking at the door and she can't stop looking at her phone. She means well because but she can't separate her personal life from her business.

Tier 4 - The girl's up-keep is so so and she might not be clean for your visit. She will not respond in a timely manner and will leave you hanging once a time has been agreed upon. She is probably high or has bruises when you see her. You would like to stay longer or repeat more often if the situation was better.

Tier 5 - The girl is a disaster or the environment feels unsafe and you're really feel sorry that you scheduled. You are glad it was only a QV so you leave the donation without any service and exit as fast as you can.[/QUOTE]I definitely agree with your analysis I experience all your tiers but if majority of providers in this game would UNDERSTAND be like Tier 1 PLUS with no Gold Pussy Syndrome Rates things would be nice but it is what it is.

So few do it for the pleasure and enjoyment. There are some nymphos who are not satisfied with one man so they become a provider to feed their male like sex drive. Some women turn to Seeking Arrangements of Sugar Daddy websites because they don't want to be a provider or escort per say but they have sexual needs. These are career driven single women or women who have self-esteem issues or women who are not happily married but they all need (sexually) a man occasionally for fun or for an emotional connection.

To be honest I feel most girls do it for the money (different reasons) and not for the enjoyment. Too many girls associate sex with a loving relationship so its hard to be naked with a stranger. Too many girls feel they have no other choice (different reasons) so they turn to being a provider to survive. Once they decide to sell sex, too many girls believe the customers will be kind and treat them like a temporary girlfriend. They soon realize that too many customers want this or that fetish and makes a girl feel weird. Too many customers want to dominant (different reasons) a girl with rough sex which makes girls timid. Too many customers are rapists or robbers which leaves a girl not very trusting.

Some providers find out that it wasn't what they expected and they transform because it's a hard life. I've seen providers go from full of life and young looking to a cold heart and haggard in short time span. All these things combined is why some providers start with giving good dreams and slowly over time start giving bad dreams which leads too negative posts. To make matters worse some become easy prey for handlers or bad boyfriends who pretend to be looking after their best interests but in reality they only see the money (cash cow). Unhappy people turn to unhealthy things that leads to addictions that they can't control. Unfortunately some girls hit rock bottom and pass away too soon because of opioid overdoses before the realization they needed to change.

[QUOTE=Purple45;4716309]So few do it for the pleasure and enjoyment. There are some nymphos who are not satisfied with one man so they become a provider to feed their male like sex drive. Some women turn to Seeking Arrangements of Sugar Daddy websites because they don't want to be a provider or escort per say but they have sexual needs. These are career driven single women or women who have self-esteem issues or women who are not happily married but they all need (sexually) a man occasionally for fun or for an emotional connection.

To be honest I feel most girls do it for the money (different reasons) and not for the enjoyment. Too many girls associate sex with a loving relationship so its hard to be naked with a stranger. Too many girls feel they have no other choice (different reasons) so they turn to being a provider to survive. Once they decide to sell sex, too many girls believe the customers will be kind and treat them like a temporary girlfriend. They soon realize that too many customers want this or that fetish and makes a girl feel weird. Too many customers want to dominant (different reasons) a girl with rough sex which makes girls timid. Too many customers are rapists or robbers which leaves a girl not very trusting.

Some providers find out that it wasn't what they expected and they transform because it's a hard life. I've seen providers go from full of life and young looking to a cold heart and haggard in short time span. All these things combined is why some providers start with giving good dreams and slowly over time start giving bad dreams which leads too negative posts. To make matters worse some become easy prey for handlers or bad boyfriends who pretend to be looking after their best interests but in reality they only see the money (cash cow). Unhappy people turn to unhealthy things that leads to addictions that they can't control. Unfortunately some girls hit rock bottom and pass away too soon because of opioid overdoses before the realization they needed to change.[/QUOTE]I agree wholeheartedly. And just how a provider changes over time when they discover that this business isn't what they thought it was going to be, mongers (ones with a modicum of conscience) go through a similar transformation. When I first started this hobby at age 19, I thought these women were mostly in this for the reason that I was, the thrill, and of course the money. But over time you begin to realize that you're largely dealing with women in desperate situations who are doing this because they feel it's their best option to make money, for many of the reasons that you mentioned above.

Knowing all this, it began to affect my dreaming. Knowing that what might be a decent dream for me may be a nightmare for the provider, and not because of me but because this person is doing this out of desperation in many cases. Am I the only one who feels this way?