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Has anyone seen this one yet? Has been advertising for a while, but I have yet to see a report.
[QUOTE=Dd Dylan;1077383][url]http://louisville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/ready-or-not-21/2563033[/url][/QUOTE]Http://louisville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/have-sum-fun-21/2560908
[QUOTE=Jake 4119;1081352]I do have a question. In looking at the rates they are changing up front, I'm wondering how all inclusive their rates are. I'm not seeing many people stating they have been going there, either. I'm always very reluctant to go to these kinds of places because $100.00 gets you in a room with a lady and in so many places services rendered tend to cost double or triple to see what the lady has underneath her clothing and to walk out happily. Frankly, I don't get to play that often and when I play I like to have fun and leave fully relaxed. Anyone have any experiences there?[/QUOTE]It has been my impression from those who have visited ABE that Vicki allows the ladies there to determine for themselves how far they go. I may be wrong and Vicki may decide to post in reply or be more discreet and private message a reply.
Hi all, there's been a lot of discussion about BP scams being on the rise with CL going dark on adult services, and I thought it might be good to write out a little something that would be beneficial for the BP neophyte to help skirt certain pitfalls. Call these 'Rules to Avoid BP Scams' if you will. Special disclosure: this is only based off of my own and a few others observations since the CL invasion, so don't take this as the gospel, at least, not yet. ;) This is a work in progress, so please bear that in mind.
What you should have before venturing into the wonderful world of BP responding are the following: One Hobbyist Email Address, not associated to you in any way that's obvious, through a service like yahoo, Gmail, hotmail, etc.; One Hobbyist Prepaid Cell Phone, which cannot be tracked back to a person's ID or credit card information; and a significant amount of time looking over your area's BP ads, searching for patterns, and being able to verify ad information through the use of such tools as Google, Tineye, and informational sites, such as this one here. Once you have these tools, you're ready to begin your hunt for the Backpage Diamond In the Rough!
What to look out for regarding Ad Title
1. Questionable: Specialized symbols in the ad title (Hearts, squigglies, etc.) Many times, ads that take this approach are trying too hard, and are hiding a nasty truth inside. Could mean that it's an agency playing at being an independent lass, or it could mean that it's only Bubba waiting for you when you get to that meeting spot, and he's eager to relieve you of your wallet, watch, and that cool lucky gold chain that your weird uncle gave you from the 70s. The symbols themselves shouldn't be a deal-breaker, but should be a yellow flag of caution for what might be found within.
2. Questionable: Generalized area for location is not filled in. This could be that the lass was in a hurry and forgot to fill it in, or, it could mean that it's a generic ad that is placed in every major burg in a 3 state area and the poster doesn't want you to know that it's a fishing expedition for contact info. Naming just the city? Fine. Naming an area of the city? Fine. Listing 'Outcall'? Possibly an agency, so keep that in mind. Again, the omission of the location should be a yellow flag on its own, and care should be taken if/when you decide to look at the ad itself.
3. Totally Fine: Stating a name in the title. The first rule in advertising is creating brand recognition. With so many ads, and so many possible choices, finding a lass by name can be difficult for the BP neophyte. Stating in the ad title a business name or personal, stage name, can help potential clients find your ads, again, and again. The lass being that confident in her 'brand' also helps as it's much more likely that reviews will be available, under that name, on sites such as this one, which'll often save you countless worries in the long run.
What to look out for regarding Ad Text
1. HIGHLY Questionable: Overly aggressive, sexual terms used in an ad should be a red flag for most any ad. Discretion is highly sought for both client and provider, and if something is spelled out in black & white in the ad, then it's much easier for it to be used against you in a court of law later. Move on to the next ad, as anyone that foolish is either LE, or best left alone for simple state of stupidity.
2. Questionable: HTML page encoding within an ad. Often used by multi-city posters to save time when considering posting a large text volume, graphically enhanced ad. If it's not home-grown, then it's often a scam. This doesn't hold 100% true, but, after looking through over 30 BP adult entertainment advertising areas, I've only seen 1 independent using this route for their advertising that is legit, and 30+ ads for the likes of Fling.com fakery.
3. Questionable: No phone number listed in the ad. Spelling a number out? No problem. If the ad states to email first and a phone number will be provided later, it's either a potential phishing scam, or a very cautious lass. Proceed with caution, if you proceed at all. Be sure and use that non-associative email address though!
What to look out for regarding Pictures
1. SCAM: If an ad states that the only way to contact the lass listed is by instant messenger, with the messenger ID and info on the pictures, then this is a scam to phish email addresses and try and get you to sign up for 'pay for verification' websites. Run, do not walk, to the next ad.
2. Questionable: Ad has varying styles of pics, quality of pics, or less than the standard 4 pics. If the pics look like they might be stolen from a co-eds Facebook page of their trip to San Tropez? They probably are. If the pics are way too professional, and are cropped as in a method which might cut off a website watermark for Bootieshakers.com, they're probably stolen from a pro site. If there is only 1 or 2 pics, and they're 90% likely to not be of the same lass (and there's no mention of working tandem with another lass in the ad), then question it. Single pic ads are very often an escort agency using a generic, swiped pic. Pics from anything that doesn't appear to be meant for the act of advertising on BP, in this day and age of digital cameras being available for cheap, question it. If you still wish to enquire further, please do, but ask for a most recent pic, and if received, compare it to the advertisement. It'll likely be yet another single, swiped, pic.
3. Totally Fine: Pics which obscure faces. Many lasses desire discretion, and that's fine. You can expect it's probably around 50% wanting discretion within escort ads, and 75% within bodyrub. The more fiscal compensation expected to be received, often (but not always), the more likely the lass is to show their face along with their general physical shape within a pic in the initial advertisement.
I'll add more to this, and amend certain areas, as time and consideration allows. Feedback is always welcome. Thanks!
Jay
This place a self service joint or what?
http://sites.google.com/site/zenzoenow/Home
I seem to recall several reviews of the place in general, and under the lasses' names on here. I'd suggest doing a search using 'Lilly' or 'Zoe' on the Lville forum on whole, and from the age of those reports I believe, it was before the topic expansion that was done earlier in the year, so they might all be under 'General Reports'. From what I remember, the initial reviewer of the place was referencing Lilly, and to see her before she left for her long exodus (of which she just returned from, not even a month ago now). His claims were that she was great as I recall, as it had prompted me to consider visiting myself, which isn't something that I tend to do on less than stellar reviews. I never did though, as I was a little put back by their '$20 for this or that' added spiel. Anyway, there should be a lot more first-hand info available using those search parameters. Hope this helps. :)
Jay.
[QUOTE=White; 1083453]This place a self service joint or what?
[url]http://sites.google.com/site/zenzoenow/Home[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ky Guy 123; 1083519]I seem to recall several reviews of the place in general, and under the lasses' names on here. I'd suggest doing a search using 'Lilly' or 'Zoe' on the Lville forum on whole, and from the age of those reports I believe, it was before the topic expansion that was done earlier in the year, so they might all be under 'General Reports'. From what I remember, the initial reviewer of the place was referencing Lilly, and to see her before she left for her long exodus (of which she just returned from, not even a month ago now. His claims were that she was great as I recall, as it had prompted me to consider visiting myself, which isn't something that I tend to do on less than stellar reviews. I never did though, as I was a little put back by their '$20 for this or that' added spiel. Anyway, there should be a lot more first-hand info available using those search parameters. Hope this helps. .
Jay. [/QUOTE]Thanks. I'll give that a try. I just searched the BP section.
I'm looking for info on cindy and ashley who work are Carla's. I have seen both jenny and erin from there and have been pleased. I'm hoping someone from there will offer more than the standard hs.
Thanks
It will be interesting to see what you get as a response. Their rates, especially with the extra $20.00 is a touch high, but only a touch. If I got the standard service and added $20 for the topless and walked away happy, I'd be fine with it. It'll be interesting to see if people share any first hand experiences. I asked a comparable question of ABE escorts and heard nothing back. That generally indicates, to me, that regulars on this board are not using their services. And since I didn't hear anything from them, my guess is that it's an upsell rip off kind of place. I could be wrong, but that's my guess. I've actually considered the Zoe place but, like you, I'd like to hear that people went there and left happy. There are plenty of good providers and people don't need to get ripped off.
[QUOTE=White; 1083453]This place a self service joint or what?
http://sites.google.com/site/zenzoenow/Home[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jake 4119;1083533]It will be interesting to see what you get as a response. Their rates, especially with the extra $20.00 is a touch high, but only a touch. If I got the standard service and added $20 for the topless and walked away happy, I'd be fine with it. It'll be interesting to see if people share any first hand experiences. I asked a comparable question of ABE escorts and heard nothing back. That generally indicates, to me, that regulars on this board are not using their services. And since I didn't hear anything from them, my guess is that it's an upsell rip off kind of place. I could be wrong, but that's my guess. I've actually considered the Zoe place but, like you, I'd like to hear that people went there and left happy. There are plenty of good providers and people don't need to get ripped off.[/QUOTE]Agreed. With that being said I'm sooo tempted to try my luck with Chrissy aka Talas. From all indications she is now offering a bit more? Am I wrong there? Had my eye on her for so long.
[QUOTE=White; 1083453]This place a self service joint or what?
http://sites.google.com/site/zenzoenow/Home[/QUOTE]I've been there and seen Lilly. Standard service, left happy, Did an upsell to lingere, which I didn't expect, just ate her tip so it was the same anyway.
[QUOTE=Bigtlvr; 1083529]I'm looking for info on cindy and ashley who work are Carla's. I have seen both jenny and erin from there and have been pleased. I'm hoping someone from there will offer more than the standard hs.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I did meet Cindy (Cindi, a couple of weeks ago and left very happy. She is very sensual and has a great body. She is more than worth the price of admission. IMHO
[QUOTE=Bigtlvr; 1083529]I'm looking for info on cindy and ashley who work are Carla's. I have seen both jenny and erin from there and have been pleased. I'm hoping someone from there will offer more than the standard hs.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I have seen Cindy, pretty face, good standard service. I have not seen Ashley. I have seen jenny and erin. Would rank as follows in order of performance and preference:
1. Jenny.
2. Cindy.
3. Erin.
I have asked about her in the past and haven't received much feedback. I have decided to try to see her this weekend or early next week. I would appreciate info on 1) am I making a mistake or, if not 2) how much of a tip should I bring 3) is it better to book an hour or 1/2 hour with her? I'd book longer if i knew I would get more than a hs, but if that's all she offers I don't see the point.
Thanks
Saw Erin today was one of the best body rubs I have had. She was all over the table. Love the long hair that she has. Would like to have seen more of her. Finish was a nice HS. Well go back for more.
Has anyone ever seen this lady Toni before? Roughly, what is her age and the color of her hair? Is she the one who worked at Carla's at one time? Appreciate any info, men.
http://louisville.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/happy-hour-all-night/2586725