Safe Mongering in Honolulu

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3438856]Rather than footnote everything, I'm just going to put down what I have learned. You can verify these basics yourself if need be:

The human papilloma virus (HPV) is the most common sexually transmitted infection (STI) in the United States. Nearly all sexually active men and women get it at some point in their lives. Some studies estimate 50% of those infected will clear the virus in 8 months, and 90% will be cured within 2 years. It's only when your immune system isn't able to fight off the infection that some strains of HPV can persist. There is currently NO HPV test for men. A person can be asymptomatic (no apparent symptoms such as warts) and still be carrying this virus and be infectious to sexual partners. Symptoms such as genital warts make one more infectious than an asymptomatic virus carrier, but a person without visible symptoms is still capable of infecting his or her sexual partners. While condoms are recommended to lesson the chance of either becoming infected or infecting others, condoms are no guarantee of 100% safety. Just as a for instance, I experimented with trying on a condom and discovered that the largest two genital warts I have are positioned just outside the furthest the condom would pull down on the base of my shaft. This suggests to me that even if I had been having complete covered intercourse (which I was not) I still might have caught this virus, and am still capable of passing it on to others while wearing a condom. All of these revelations make me extremely concerned as to the intelligence of returning to partaking of providers' services once my warts are history.

I have by now spent weeks doing hours daily research online to study possible cures for the virus and viral symptoms (warts). I have looked closely at what the establishment medical profession has on offer by way of treatment modalities for this problem and am not impressed. Consequently I have avoided dealing with those guys. I have experimented with any number of alternative cures, none of which have been effective to date but I have not exhausted this line of inquiry and will update on this forum if I eventually find a healing modality which works for me personally. It is frustrating to realize however that even if I succeed in eradicating the genital warts this is not assurance I have also driven the virus from my body. As I just mentioned, there is no existing medical test available to the public to determine if HPV is or is not still one's body.[/QUOTE]Thank you for sharing your story.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3438856]Rather than footnote everything, I'm just going to put down what I have learned. You can verify these basics yourself if need be:

The human papilloma virus (HPV) is the most common sexually transmitted infection (STI) in the United States. Nearly all sexually active men and women get it at some point in their lives. Some studies estimate 50% of those infected will clear the virus in 8 months, and 90% will be cured within 2 years. It's only when your immune system isn't able to fight off the infection that some strains of HPV can persist. There is currently NO HPV test for men. A person can be asymptomatic (no apparent symptoms such as warts) and still be carrying this virus and be infectious to sexual partners. Symptoms such as genital warts make one more infectious than an asymptomatic virus carrier, but a person without visible symptoms is still capable of infecting his or her sexual partners. While condoms are recommended to lesson the chance of either becoming infected or infecting others, condoms are no guarantee of 100% safety. Just as a for instance, I experimented with trying on a condom and discovered that the largest two genital warts I have are positioned just outside the furthest the condom would pull down on the base of my shaft. This suggests to me that even if I had been having complete covered intercourse (which I was not) I still might have caught this virus, and am still capable of passing it on to others while wearing a condom. All of these revelations make me extremely concerned as to the intelligence of returning to partaking of providers' services once my warts are history.

I have by now spent weeks doing hours daily research online to study possible cures for the virus and viral symptoms (warts). I have looked closely at what the establishment medical profession has on offer by way of treatment modalities for this problem and am not impressed. Consequently I have avoided dealing with those guys. I have experimented with any number of alternative cures, none of which have been effective to date but I have not exhausted this line of inquiry and will update on this forum if I eventually find a healing modality which works for me personally. It is frustrating to realize however that even if I succeed in eradicating the genital warts this is not assurance I have also driven the virus from my body. As I just mentioned, there is no existing medical test available to the public to determine if HPV is or is not still one's body.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. Keep up the fight and let us know how it turns out.

Good luck to you!

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3438856]Rather than footnote everything, I'm just going to put down what I have learned. You can verify these basics yourself if need be:

The human papilloma virus (HPV) is the most common sexually transmitted infection (STI) in the United States. Nearly all sexually active men and women get it at some point in their lives. Some studies estimate 50% of those infected will clear the virus in 8 months, and 90% will be cured within 2 years. It's only when your immune system isn't able to fight off the infection that some strains of HPV can persist. There is currently NO HPV test for men. A person can be asymptomatic (no apparent symptoms such as warts) and still be carrying this virus and be infectious to sexual partners. Symptoms such as genital warts make one more infectious than an asymptomatic virus carrier, but a person without visible symptoms is still capable of infecting his or her sexual partners. While condoms are recommended to lesson the chance of either becoming infected or infecting others, condoms are no guarantee of 100% safety. Just as a for instance, I experimented with trying on a condom and discovered that the largest two genital warts I have are positioned just outside the furthest the condom would pull down on the base of my shaft. This suggests to me that even if I had been having complete covered intercourse (which I was not) I still might have caught this virus, and am still capable of passing it on to others while wearing a condom. All of these revelations make me extremely concerned as to the intelligence of returning to partaking of providers' services once my warts are history.

I have by now spent weeks doing hours daily research online to study possible cures for the virus and viral symptoms (warts). I have looked closely at what the establishment medical profession has on offer by way of treatment modalities for this problem and am not impressed. Consequently I have avoided dealing with those guys. I have experimented with any number of alternative cures, none of which have been effective to date but I have not exhausted this line of inquiry and will update on this forum if I eventually find a healing modality which works for me personally. It is frustrating to realize however that even if I succeed in eradicating the genital warts this is not assurance I have also driven the virus from my body. As I just mentioned, there is no existing medical test available to the public to determine if HPV is or is not still one's body.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Please do keep us updated.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3438856]Rather than footnote everything, I'm just going to put down what I have learned. You can verify these basics yourself if need be:

The human papilloma virus (HPV) is the most common sexually transmitted infection (STI) in the United States. Nearly all sexually active men and women get it at some point in their lives. Some studies estimate 50% of those infected will clear the virus in 8 months, and 90% will be cured within 2 years. It's only when your immune system isn't able to fight off the infection that some strains of HPV can persist. There is currently NO HPV test for men. A person can be asymptomatic (no apparent symptoms such as warts) and still be carrying this virus and be infectious to sexual partners. Symptoms such as genital warts make one more infectious than an asymptomatic virus carrier, but a person without visible symptoms is still capable of infecting his or her sexual partners. While condoms are recommended to lesson the chance of either becoming infected or infecting others, condoms are no guarantee of 100% safety. Just as a for instance, I experimented with trying on a condom and discovered that the largest two genital warts I have are positioned just outside the furthest the condom would pull down on the base of my shaft. This suggests to me that even if I had been having complete covered intercourse (which I was not) I still might have caught this virus, and am still capable of passing it on to others while wearing a condom. All of these revelations make me extremely concerned as to the intelligence of returning to partaking of providers' services once my warts are history.

I have by now spent weeks doing hours daily research online to study possible cures for the virus and viral symptoms (warts). I have looked closely at what the establishment medical profession has on offer by way of treatment modalities for this problem and am not impressed. Consequently I have avoided dealing with those guys. I have experimented with any number of alternative cures, none of which have been effective to date but I have not exhausted this line of inquiry and will update on this forum if I eventually find a healing modality which works for me personally. It is frustrating to realize however that even if I succeed in eradicating the genital warts this is not assurance I have also driven the virus from my body. As I just mentioned, there is no existing medical test available to the public to determine if HPV is or is not still one's body.[/QUOTE]Thank you for sharing. Good luck to you and keep us updated.

What are the risks? Anyone or anything to look out for?

I have been a CBJ kind of guy, but CIM is so much better. WS can't be beat.

Question posted in the [I]Best BBBJCIM thread.[/I]

[QUOTE=LittleJim;3599292]What are the risks? Anyone or anything to look out for?

I have been a CBJ kind of guy, but CIM is so much better. WS can't be beat.[/QUOTE]Known risks of receiving a BBBJ are: Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, NGU, Herpes & Syphilis.

Source: [URL]http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp[/URL]

[QUOTE=Blake123;3599929]Question posted in the [I]Best BBBJCIM thread.[/I]

Known risks of receiving a BBBJ are: Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, NGU, Herpes & Syphilis.

Source: [URL]http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp[/URL][/QUOTE]For you DATY / twat slurpers it goes both ways. Giving is as risky as getting.
Although I guess you reduce the risk by 50% if you're getting a CBJ but still taste that bearded/raw clam.
Just imagine the risk of partaking a popular BBFS queen and you're customer #6 of the day.

[QUOTE=RottenOtto;3601023]For you DATY / twat slurpers it goes both ways. Giving is as risky as getting.
Although I guess you reduce the risk by 50% if you're getting a CBJ but still taste that bearded/raw clam.
Just imagine the risk of partaking a popular BBFS queen and you're customer #6 of the day.[/QUOTE]Just imagine your favorite CFS girl having BBFS with her favorite handsome young studs! Now continue to imagine for you she only does CFS, thus you think DATY is safe or safer with her. Think again. I know for a fact that your favorite CFS girls bang the gang without the cover. I'm 100 percent sure of this, because I've smashed some popular CFS pussy withOUT the umbrella, but never posted on the board, and never posted it for good reason. If you dont believe me, then I got a bridge I’d like to sell you in some marshy swamp land. So if you think youre safe DATY with your favorite CFS chick(s); then think again.

[QUOTE=DrMajikLuv69;3601149]Just imagine your favorite CFS girl having BBFS with her favorite handsome young studs! Now continue to imagine for you she only does CFS, thus you think DATY is safe or safer with her. Think again. I know for a fact that your favorite CFS girls bang the gang without the cover. I'm 100 percent sure of this, because I've smashed some popular CFS pussy withOUT the umbrella, but never posted on the board, and never posted it for good reason. If you dont believe me, then I got a bridge Id like to sell you in some marshy swamp land. So if you think youre safe DATY with your favorite CFS chick(s); then think again.[/QUOTE]With tattoo I could say who they are.

They had profiles in adult friend finder in anothet states.

Saying "tall young good looking guys only. For pure fun".

Maybe to smash stress from pro job.

Pleasure when they do reverse role (they choose and criticize men -not being chosen and criticized-.

Anyway I think many pros have "purer physical pleasure" with "younger, taller, fitter, handsomer" guys while vacation.

Of course those guys will say "yikes. I never buy ******. I don't do such dirty thing. I am clean" and girls with sweet cocktail may do riskier thing believing that handsome dude are 100% clean.

[QUOTE=DeMeter;3601169]With tattoo I could say who they are.

They had profiles in adult friend finder in anothet states.

Saying "tall young good looking guys only. For pure fun".

Maybe to smash stress from pro job.

Pleasure when they do reverse role (they choose and criticize men -not being chosen and criticized-.

Anyway I think many pros have "purer physical pleasure" with "younger, taller, fitter, handsomer" guys while vacation.

Of course those guys will say "yikes. I never buy ******. I don't do such dirty thing. I am clean" and girls with sweet cocktail may do riskier thing believing that handsome dude are 100% clean.[/QUOTE]Yep and who's to say that those young bucks that the pros seek on their vacation to pound are safer. To them pounding pussy is a dime a dozen and it's the same for the hot pretty civilian chicks that you could meet on the street, beach, bar or club. I once met this young hot lawyer; She was smoking hot! We dated a few times and by the third date we got closer. One afternoon on the third date we began to DFK. It just naturally happened after conducting some research together. (There's more to the story but going to cut to the chase.) After getting close and some DFK, I suggested we go back to my crib. She told me she could not have sex because of the STD she was carrying. Glad she was honest with me. We continued to be friends on a professional level but nothing ever developed in regards to an intimate relationship. A decade later she is still single, and still smoking hot. The point is hot civilian girls get lots of dick and hot young studs get pussy a dime a dozen, thus you are absolutely correct the AMP girls / pros the seek them on vacation are at risk too. Something to dwell upon.

[QUOTE=DrMajikLuv69;3601149]Just imagine your favorite CFS girl having BBFS with her favorite handsome young studs! Now continue to imagine for you she only does CFS, thus you think DATY is safe or safer with her. Think again. I know for a fact that your favorite CFS girls bang the gang without the cover. I'm 100 percent sure of this, because I've smashed some popular CFS pussy withOUT the umbrella, but never posted on the board, and never posted it for good reason. If you dont believe me, then I got a bridge Id like to sell you in some marshy swamp land. So if you think youre safe DATY with your favorite CFS chick(s); then think again.[/QUOTE]Yes this is a good point that has been discussed a few times before. Girls have guys they feel like 'giving it up' to; what one girl won't do for you, another will. Posting about it only ruins it for the guy, as the girl will be angry from the sudden onrush of guys demanding BBFS.

[QUOTE=LittleJim;3599292]What are the risks? Anyone or anything to look out for?

I have been a CBJ kind of guy, but CIM is so much better. WS can't be beat.[/QUOTE]According to The Life Foundation (and numerous online resources), an infected mouth can infect the genitals it comes in contact with, and that disease transmission (eg. genital herpes, syphilis, gonorrhea) occurs with both cunnilingus and fellatio.

I've had two providers out of my entire mongering career just offer up BBFS to me on my first time. I told them no but just by that offer made me think, she doing it with everyone and without discretion, isn't it only a matter of time till she gets something. Funny thing is, in my entire life I haven't caught anything and have gotten checked up on and nothing showed up so I'm of the opinion, std's are a pipedream.

[QUOTE=PVenkman;3619354]I've had two providers out of my entire mongering career just offer up BBFS to me on my first time. I told them no but just by that offer made me think, she doing it with everyone and without discretion, isn't it only a matter of time till she gets something. Funny thing is, in my entire life I haven't caught anything and have gotten checked up on and nothing showed up so I'm of the opinion, std's are a pipedream.[/QUOTE]A pipedream is "an unattainable hope"; I presume you mean something like 'myth'?

I agree with your thoughts and mentioned it when I got tested; obviously the doctor was not a monger and quite naive from the monger perspective, believing it was not likely hetero prostitutes are infected. Anyway, if you have been doing BB and never caught anything, it only means you are lucky. A popular CFS girl once told me she discontinued BB service for her special clients because she caught VD.

I believe the same as you - it is just a matter of time. I remember when places like the old Kison and CHM were BBFSCIP places "without discretion".

[QUOTE=HMobius;3619382]A pipedream is "an unattainable hope"; I presume you mean something like 'myth'?

I agree with your thoughts and mentioned it when I got tested; obviously the doctor was not a monger and quite naive from the monger perspective, believing it was not likely hetero prostitutes are infected. Anyway, if you have been doing BB and never caught anything, it only means you are lucky. A popular CFS girl once told me she discontinued BB service for her special clients because she caught VD.

I believe the same as you - it is just a matter of time. I remember when places like the old Kison and CHM were BBFSCIP places "without discretion".[/QUOTE]Yeah. It's sort of like Russian roulette. Take your chances. It's part of this hobby.

I lived in Thailand for two years back in the day before HIV / AIDS was a household word. I was sexually active to the max with the Thai girls like there was no tomorrow. Ridiculously inexpensive all-night sleep-overs with the girls back then. Always BBFSCIP. First year, I never caught anything. I was so young and confident back then and thought I was invulnerable. Really. Then, during the second year, I caught the clap four times, and that caught my attention. Shots of Penicillin directly in my ass plus a 10-day supply of Tetracycline always cleared the bug.

I really wish I could BBFS nowadays because it feels oh so good but won't because of the SO.