Massage Parlor Reports

I could look back at my old postings, but I know the topic is one I would post if I have something to contribute about, and have posted about within the last few months. You are welcome to look back at 09', but just within the last few months this topic has been discussed. Many of our fellow hobbyists are not looking for FS, but like me want a nude HE, hence my not visiting Lily in recent years, regardless of the positive recent posts.

[QUOTE=Midlifexis; 1112226]SorryFor the typos, sent from phone. I found a bunch from 09 an one that referanced cranston ill keep looking but.

Thanks for your help anyway. [/QUOTE]

QUOTE=Badlarry76; 1106539]In dozens of visits to numerous local AMPs over the past couple years, I have never been offered a lineup! [/QUOTE]BEST LINEUPS, One Spa is the absolute leader in lineups. So long as its not busy and you desire it, they will try, and the girls will not show attitude at all. I believe they must train the girls to play it straight. 4 to 5 in a lineup is more typicall but lets say there are even as many as 7, I will talk to each one individually very closeup under the pretense of trying to remember their names. Actually I do it to try to figure out if they're smokers or not. Heavy smokers can be detected most times from a foot away.

FIRST TIME IMPRESSED, New DT in early 09, and the first time I was really impressed with a lineup. I call up on the phone and talk to mamasan in Jan 09 right when new locale opeened, and she tells me she got new girls "real hot and 20's". So then I go over, and so they send out one of their workhorse 30 somethings. Maybe Jasmine or whomever, who I had been with once or twice before, but was always sort of jaded. So then I tell her the mamasan told me about 20 somethings. At that point she recognize me as a major customer of Yuri from the old DT, many times with Yuri in 08. So she says Ok I get them. So then 3 girls all lineup, all smiling, and trying to be nice, Mya (5-6. Leggy and cute, heavy smoking her vice though) Sha Na (5-1 witht stunning facial beauty) , and Bebe. 5-2 and also cute. Sha Na had literally just arrived, (condom put on manually) the rest only in from NYC a few days. This was like a dream. 3 reasonably hot, very cute FS spa girls all with good attitudes, none or little spa experience, (although Bebe I found out a wk later seemed to know like 19 positions) but all anxious to do a good job, and everything 100% legal. It doesn't get much better than that. I ended up picking Sha Na first, but then I said I might as well try Mya for the 2nd hr (normally I don't do that of course) but because I love leggy spa girls. I wanted to try her also. So she then Mya initiates heavy kissing, which I had not experieinced from any spa girls at that point, even including Yuri.

WALKING AWAY FROM A LINEUP, very very rare for me, at New Bali (old ABC). They started in 09 usually 3 or 4 girl lineups. Now I normally don't ask for a lineup or showups and not spend. However one time about 6 months back, I asked for a lineup, so they show me 2 girls seperately, niether hot, and then a 3rd walks in, and she is tall, leggy, and pretty hot, but she had her head cocked sideways, with real bad attitude or mood. So I told mamasan, well maybe another time. Bali has of course had had some reasonably not girls the last few years.

WAIT UNTIL GIRLS LEAVE ROOM, I've learned never to select a girl from a lineup while all the girls are still there. Wait until they leave, and then tell Mamasan once lineup has disbanded. At the new DT last September they lineup 4 girls for me, traditional side by side, couple of low 7's one high 7 and then a very hot girl "Sugar" (now Heidi at Bali for last 3 months on and off) As I stated before she has sort of cover girls looks, just 5-3, maybe 108, but you're pushing 9 level, and she's quite stunning. So when I pick Sugar, to be polite I say "of course ALL you girls are beautiful". Then Sugar bursts out laughing right in front of the other 3 girls and the mamasan. So we're on the way to the room and the dialogue went like this:

Me "what are you like a wise guy or something"?

Sugar "no I'm nice girl"

Me "I don't think so"

Sugar "no I'm REALLY nice girl"

Me "yeah right"

[QUOTE=Iamme Iam;1112323]I could look back at my old postings, but I know the topic is one I would post if I have something to contribute about, and have posted about within the last few months. You are welcome to look back at 09', but just within the last few months this topic has been discussed. Many of our fellow hobbyists are not looking for FS, but like me want a nude HE, hence my not visiting Lily in recent years, regardless of the positive recent posts.[/QUOTE]Thansk. Got what I needed and enjoyed your post history. Now I just have to figure how to fit one in this visit.

Appreciate your help.

[QUOTE=Offshore Racer;1112497]QUOTE=Badlarry76; 1106539]In dozens of visits to numerous local AMPs over the past couple years, I have never been offered a lineup! [/QUOTE]BEST LINEUPS, One Spa is the absolute leader in lineups. So long as its not busy and you desire it, they will try, and the girls will not show attitude at all. I believe they must train the girls to play it straight. 4 to 5 in a lineup is more typicall but lets say there are even as many as 7, I will talk to each one individually very closeup under the pretense of trying to remember their names. Actually I do it to try to figure out if they're smokers or not. Heavy smokers can be detected most times from a foot away.

FIRST TIME IMPRESSED, New DT in early 09, and the first time I was really impressed with a lineup. I call up on the phone and talk to mamasan in Jan 09 right when new locale opeened, and she tells me she got new girls "real hot and 20's". So then I go over, and so they send out one of their workhorse 30 somethings. Maybe Jasmine or whomever, who I had been with once or twice before, but was always sort of jaded. So then I tell her the mamasan told me about 20 somethings. At that point she recognize me as a major customer of Yuri from the old DT, many times with Yuri in 08. So she says Ok I get them. So then 3 girls all lineup, all smiling, and trying to be nice, Mya (5-6. Leggy and cute, heavy smoking her vice though) Sha Na (5-1 witht stunning facial beauty) , and Bebe. 5-2 and also cute. Sha Na had literally just arrived, (condom put on manually) the rest only in from NYC a few days. This was like a dream. 3 reasonably hot, very cute FS spa girls all with good attitudes, none or little spa experience, (although Bebe I found out a wk later seemed to know like 19 positions) but all anxious to do a good job, and everything 100% legal. It doesn't get much better than that. I ended up picking Sha Na first, but then I said I might as well try Mya for the 2nd hr (normally I don't do that of course) but because I love leggy spa girls. I wanted to try her also. So she then Mya initiates heavy kissing, which I had not experieinced from any spa girls at that point, even including Yuri.

WALKING AWAY FROM A LINEUP, very very rare for me, at New Bali (old ABC). They started in 09 usually 3 or 4 girl lineups. Now I normally don't ask for a lineup or showups and not spend. However one time about 6 months back, I asked for a lineup, so they show me 2 girls seperately, niether hot, and then a 3rd walks in, and she is tall, leggy, and pretty hot, but she had her head cocked sideways, with real bad attitude or mood. So I told mamasan, well maybe another time. Bali has of course had had some reasonably not girls the last few years.

WAIT UNTIL GIRLS LEAVE ROOM, I've learned never to select a girl from a lineup while all the girls are still there. Wait until they leave, and then tell Mamasan once lineup has disbanded. At the new DT last September they lineup 4 girls for me, traditional side by side, couple of low 7's one high 7 and then a very hot girl "Sugar" (now Heidi at Bali for last 3 months on and off) As I stated before she has sort of cover girls looks, just 5-3, maybe 108, but you're pushing 9 level, and she's quite stunning. So when I pick Sugar, to be polite I say "of course ALL you girls are beautiful". Then Sugar bursts out laughing right in front of the other 3 girls and the mamasan. So we're on the way to the room and the dialogue went like this:

Me "what are you like a wise guy or something"?

Sugar "no I'm nice girl"

Me "I don't think so"

Sugar "no I'm REALLY nice girl"

Me "yeah right"[/QUOTE]I went to Bali Tues morning for the first time and asked for Hydie. Went I saw her my mouth just dropped. If I died today they would have to wipe the smile off of my face.

[QUOTE=SeekingBB;1103533]Odds are that your little clean AMP girl you love so much is handing out BB.[/QUOTE]

These are the same mongers who mess with drugged sws and then AMP girls and claim their "Holier than thou,how dare you" charade. They're all full of it. I never worry because I bring my own condoms for that same reason, those scrawny weak pink ones the AMPs use by the gross are meant for little fingers. The first time was the last time when two broke before the main event even got underway. Safety First.

Given the latest OS reports, I may have to visit again. My one visit there last summer wasn't as GFEish as described recently, although the gal was hot visually.

Been reading this thread and just want to make sure I get the standard tips down so I either don't get scammed or embrass myself.

Seems like on top of the house fee it's.

4 HJ.

8 CBJ.

1. 4 FS.

Sound about right?

[QUOTE=Rusty Staub; 1113487]Been reading this thread and just want to make sure I get the standard tips down so I either don't get scammed or embrass myself.

Seems like on top of the house fee it's.

4 HJ.

8 CBJ.

1. 4 FS.

Sound about right? [/QUOTE]CBJ could be between. 8 & 1. Also the same applies here as with a waitress or bartender, extra good service deserves an extra good tip and quite often results in even better service next visit.

[QUOTE=Rusty Staub; 1113487]Been reading this thread and just want to make sure I get the standard tips down so I either don't get scammed or embrass myself.

Seems like on top of the house fee it's.

4 HJ.

8 CBJ.

1. 4 FS.

Sound about right? [/QUOTE]One additional point is that 40 for HJ assumes there is no roaming or minimal over the clothes access that almost isn't worth it. Obviously 140 for FS includes any roaming that you do. 80 for CBJ might include some basic roaming. If she gets naked and you get unlimited access during the CBJ then you should probably tip 100.

Here is my scale just for the massage with HJ only establishments:

40 No roaming / minimal over the clothes.

50-60 takes out the fun bags and allows you to play.

70-80 gets naked top and bottom or down to panties for full access.

[quote]Just called Bali;

"Hi is Heidi working today"

"No she on bacation"

"oh ok will she be back soon?"

"no no she not come back"

"thats not a vacation sweet heart she quit"

"no no she bacation"

"oookkaaay great thank you"

LOL.

Was hoping to give her a shot today (literally). So off to one spa I go. Hard to try new places when one is just that good. If anyone finds out where Heidi is "bacationing" let me know.

Be safe gents.

WAIT UNTIL GIRLS LEAVE ROOM, I've learned never to select a girl from a lineup while all the girls are still there. Wait until they leave, and then tell Mamasan once lineup has disbanded. At the new DT last September they lineup 4 girls for me, traditional side by side, couple of low 7's one high 7 and then a very hot girl "Sugar" (now Heidi at Bali for last 3 months on and off) As I stated before she has sort of cover girls looks, just 5-3, maybe 108, but you're pushing 9 level, and she's quite stunning. So when I pick Sugar, to be polite I say "of course ALL you girls are beautiful". Then Sugar bursts out laughing right in front of the other 3 girls and the mamasan. So we're on the way to the room and the dialogue went like this:

Me "what are you like a wise guy or something"?

Sugar "no I'm nice girl"

Me "I don't think so"

Sugar "no I'm REALLY nice girl"

Me "yeah right"[/QUOTE]I went to Bali Tues morning for the first time and asked for Hydie. Went I saw her my mouth just dropped. If I died today they would have to wipe the smile off of my face.

Glad to see Heidi has done well over at Bali, because she was very discouraged about the lack of business over at DT back in Sept. She asked me my opinion about other better places to work, and I didn't direct her anywhere in specific, but I did tell her IMHO she was among the top girls I had encountered in the city that year, and should do well somewhere in town if she stuck with it. She said girls with her look were somewhat common in NYC, and that combined with some other reason, she wanted to work outside the city.

She also mentioned she was offered in NYC (and I believe legitimately) to do some tryout shots for Playboy Mag, and last time I talked with her in late Sept she was still kicking around the idea. Has a nice look, is smart about the business, good sense of humor, and a (relatively rare in the spa business) non-smoker. All real pluses.

[QUOTE=Jimmy H85;1113853]I went to Bali Tues morning for the first time and asked for Hydie. Went I saw her my mouth just dropped. If I died today they would have to wipe the smile off of my face.[/QUOTE]Hiedi is bacationing in New York where she lives (works out of ).

[QUOTE=Wayback;1113240]Given the latest OS reports, I may have to visit again. My one visit there last summer wasn't as GFEish as described recently, although the gal was hot visually.[/QUOTE]By GFE I assume you're not just talking about just the girl acting affectionate or allowing light kissing around the neck or near the mouth or maybe a dry kiss or something, and I assume you don't mean any BB things. As far as DATY, that's near zero to low risk to them, so that's not uncommon.

Ok, so you must be referring to heavy kissing, DFK or something close in approximation, which do present risks to these girls, so you're probably going to have to be a longer term known commodity at the establishment, or dropping heavy tips. Or have a reputation of now and then spending alot of cash on one particular girl in a 3 week rotation. Ideally all 3. Otherwise the cost / benefit equation for these girls just won't work maybe 95% of the time.

The question I've long asked: what's the (heavy) kissing percentage with FS spa girls for random first time customers around town paying the standard 60 plus 140? As I've said before. With brazilian strippers doing champagne rooms in various clubs (and that's minus FS, although many also offer OTC services). Its in the range of maybe 70 to 90, and this based upon a large sample over multiiple years. I am guessing for spa girls its less than 5. This also based upon a very large sample, but skewed upwards to double or more that rate over the past yr or so, because many times I am adding big upfront tips for that precise purpose, well over the 140.

AMP girls in general I believe are quite conservative about kissing, so if and when it happens, it can be pretty good. In fact recently with a very hot spa girl who is here only for a limited time, lets call her T, it turns out her initial session comment " I don't do DFK" I now believe really meant she doesn't do any heavy kissing at all. (by the way, DFK is only one type of heavy kissing) So my response was "I don't like DFK either" and then proceeded to kiss her non DFK but otherwise heavy kissing style, the extra upfront tip perhap letting me continue with my mistaken assumption. This girl is total package across the board attractive, and is an absolute treasure, and kissing her, now over many sessions, has been incredible.

Another very attractive OS girl J, who rotates in and out at various times, I recall her saying in our first session "I don't normally kiss customers, but I would like to try sometime" Translation,"I do it with regulars"? Because our 2nd session a week or two later was GFE, althnough the tip got spiked up a bit (to Julie levels, which I've rarely ever done) so I couldn't tell what caused it, but that 2nd session was quite good.

This is not really an answer to your postulation, but I frequent places where the girls are maybe a bit under the top tier in terms of hotness, never pay more than standard and enjoy DFK and LFK more often than not, even with first time encounters.

[QUOTE=Offshore Racer; 1114408]By GFE I assume you're not just talking about just the girl acting affectionate or allowing light kissing around the neck or near the mouth or maybe a dry kiss or something, and I assume you don't mean any BB things. As far as DATY, that's near zero to low risk to them, so that's not uncommon.

Ok, so you must be referring to heavy kissing, DFK or something close in approximation, which do present risks to these girls, so you're probably going to have to be a longer term known commodity at the establishment, or dropping heavy tips. Or have a reputation of now and then spending alot of cash on one particular girl in a 3 week rotation. Ideally all 3. Otherwise the cost / benefit equation for these girls just won't work maybe 95% of the time.

The question I've long asked: what's the (heavy) kissing percentage with FS spa girls for random first time customers around town paying the standard 60 plus 140? As I've said before. With brazilian strippers doing champagne rooms in various clubs (and that's minus FS, although many also offer OTC services). Its in the range of maybe 70 to 90, and this based upon a large sample over multiiple years. I am guessing for spa girls its less than 5. This also based upon a very large sample, but skewed upwards to double or more that rate over the past yr or so, because many times I am adding big upfront tips for that precise purpose, well over the 140.

AMP girls in general I believe are quite conservative about kissing, so if and when it happens, it can be pretty good. In fact recently with a very hot spa girl who is here only for a limited time, lets call her T, it turns out her initial session comment " I don't do DFK" I now believe really meant she doesn't do any heavy kissing at all. (by the way, DFK is only one type of heavy kissing) So my response was "I don't like DFK either" and then proceeded to kiss her non DFK but otherwise heavy kissing style, the extra upfront tip perhap letting me continue with my mistaken assumption. This girl is total package across the board attractive, and is an absolute treasure, and kissing her, now over many sessions, has been incredible.

Another very attractive OS girl J, who rotates in and out at various times, I recall her saying in our first session "I don't normally kiss customers, but I would like to try sometime" Translation,"I do it with regulars"? Because our 2nd session a week or two later was GFE, althnough the tip got spiked up a bit (to Julie levels, which I've rarely ever done) so I couldn't tell what caused it, but that 2nd session was quite good. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SMS 54;1114601]This is not really an answer to your postulation, but I frequent places where the girls are maybe a bit under the top tier in terms of hotness, never pay more than standard and enjoy DFK and LFK more often than not, even with first time encounters.[/QUOTE]On the first time encounters when you do get GFE, are you usually an established customer of the spa? Because then you've proabably got a good GFE track record with the other girls, who often times tend to share info among each other.

On the larger tips to increase the odds, its mostly at OS, and its in part because in 2010 they've had some fairly attractive girls rotating in, so its been hard for me to resist. One of the problems is it can create an expectation, so normal amounts appear like small amounts. But over at DT with Christie a month or so back, I really believed our heavy GFE session was a direct result of that extra tip I gave her. Generally I pay the normal amounts over at DT unless the girl is exceptional in some way.