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[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5734667]Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it also a felony to transport a provider to her dates? Could be as simple as a provider asking, "hey, can you give me a ride to somewhere?" after you both finish your time together. You agree, not knowing why she's going there, and then something happens and suddenly you're on the hook.

I'm trying to remember, but I think this happened to someone on TNA a long time ago if i'm not mistaken. TNA provider asked one of her goofball regulars to bring her to a casino so she could work the floor for dates while he played slots and had free drinks. Then security caught her because she was well-known to them for trolling the floor for dates. They called the police, who took her into a room and she gave-up the guy as her driver pretty much immediately. They let her go because for her it was only a misdemeanor and she bailed, but they came out and got him because driving her there while with the intent to solicit and "work" was a felony. She gave him up to save her own ass and he was nice enough to bring the w***e to the casino in the first place, LOL. I'm not really on TNA much but I do seem to recall that rather dramatic post some time ago. And from what I recall the weirdo was on TNA defending her actions in that post.[/QUOTE]This is new to me. Thanks for sharing. I have given rides to a few providers in the past (other states), really good intel here. Thanks again for sharing.

[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5734667]Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it also a felony to transport a provider to her dates? Could be as simple as a provider asking, "hey, can you give me a ride to somewhere?" after you both finish your time together. You agree, not knowing why she's going there, and then something happens and suddenly you're on the hook.

I'm trying to remember, but I think this happened to someone on TNA a long time ago if i'm not mistaken. TNA provider asked one of her goofball regulars to bring her to a casino so she could work the floor for dates while he played slots and had free drinks. Then security caught her because she was well-known to them for trolling the floor for dates. They called the police, who took her into a room and she gave-up the guy as her driver pretty much immediately. They let her go because for her it was only a misdemeanor and she bailed, but they came out and got him because driving her there while with the intent to solicit and "work" was a felony. She gave him up to save her own ass and he was nice enough to bring the w***e to the casino in the first place, LOL. I'm not really on TNA much but I do seem to recall that rather dramatic post some time ago. And from what I recall the weirdo was on TNA defending her actions in that post.[/QUOTE]Just rumors and hearsay.

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[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5734667]Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it also a felony to transport a provider to her dates? Could be as simple as a provider asking, "hey, can you give me a ride to somewhere?" after you both finish your time together. You agree, not knowing why she's going there, and then something happens and suddenly you're on the hook.

I'm trying to remember, but I think this happened to someone on TNA a long time ago if i'm not mistaken. TNA provider asked one of her goofball regulars to bring her to a casino so she could work the floor for dates while he played slots and had free drinks. Then security caught her because she was well-known to them for trolling the floor for dates. They called the police, who took her into a room and she gave-up the guy as her driver pretty much immediately. They let her go because for her it was only a misdemeanor and she bailed, but they came out and got him because driving her there while with the intent to solicit and "work" was a felony. She gave him up to save her own ass and he was nice enough to bring the w***e to the casino in the first place, LOL. I'm not really on TNA much but I do seem to recall that rather dramatic post some time ago. And from what I recall the weirdo was on TNA defending her actions in that post.[/QUOTE]I remember that story but not too well. I think in the end the dude got off but yes she reportedly gave him up quickly if I remember correctly.

This is an internet forum, not a court of law. Hence, hearsay is allowed. But there is a solution: if it hurts you, you can make the choice not to read it.

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[QUOTE=ProperGMan;5735193]Just rumors and hearsay.

Remove posts without evidence.[/QUOTE]

I don't think the police really care about your car, honestly. If it's a nice ride, they might look at it more than others, but other than that I don't think they'll really care.

Generally, SPD aren't really busting anyone right now. I'm not sure when that's going to change, but at some point it will. They're a presence because businesses and residents want them to be, and they move around as a form of deterrence. The girls are used to them being there and continue to keep doing what they do. That being said, I have seen moments over the past year when SPD did stop a guy after picking a girl up. It's typically not until after she gets in the car, and she'll come to your window to ask if you have a certain amount of money before she gets in. Traditionally this has been bad form, but all of the girls are doing it now so it'll be hard to get a date without talking to her through the window. Just know that this is how police stings operate, the girl talks at you through the window. The difference is that an undercover will pressure you immediately to agree to a sex act for money. She'll signal and the police will pounce. Most girls out there right now are only asking how much money you have and if you have what they're looking for, she'll get in. There's nothing illegal about that, but when I've seen guys get stopped it's always been right after the pick-up. I don't know if there's much to go on, but they'll separate the both of you and because the girl doesn't know you and doesn't care about you, she'll tell the police whatever they want to hear so she can get back out to make some money. You'll be stuck holding the bag in front of god and everyone for probably a long time until they either cite you or let you go. It's not very common and probably not likely to happen to you, but that's how I've seen it go down since 2020 up to now.

That being said, I'm just not comfortable talking to a girl, much less picking her up, in front of police. I just don't want them to know 100% that I'm out there picking-up girls. That could make me a target for a later date. But I'm also not the type to pick-up an SW in front of a lot of regular pedestrians or traffic. That's just me.

So in short, you'll probably be fine. Just be as clandestine as possible and remember. The girls know that the police nor the city prosecutors are after them anymore, they're after the johns. Because of that, they don't care if you feel uncomfortable while they solicit in front of police. The other warning I'll give is that there seems to be a rise in underage girls out there, so you'll want to be careful with that.

Other than that, do what your stomach allows.

[QUOTE=RedSkin08;5734699]I took my first trip to aurora ave the other night and seen a couple of decent looking girls but the cops were everywhere, I don't see how it's even possible to pick up the girls with the police roving, and them being posted at the hot spots. I seen a couple cars stopping and talking to the girl right in front of the cops like they weren't there. Also do certain cars get more attention than others cause I feel like my car sticks out like a sore thumb but it's all I have to drive. Thanks for any tips or advice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RedSkin08;5734699]I took my first trip to aurora ave the other night and seen a couple of decent looking girls but the cops were everywhere, I don't see how it's even possible to pick up the girls with the police roving, and them being posted at the hot spots. I seen a couple cars stopping and talking to the girl right in front of the cops like they weren't there. Also do certain cars get more attention than others cause I feel like my car sticks out like a sore thumb but it's all I have to drive. Thanks for any tips or advice.[/QUOTE]I would never pick up a SW way too much can go wrong. She could have drugs and plant them in your car if you get stopped that's on you. Car dates are a no no for me as well. If you get caught in the act you just elevated it to lewd public conduct which is much more serious. Could be a set up for a rob as well. Not to mention could be a cop you are talking to through the window. I would imagine there are unmarked police cars around the area so even if it "looks clear". Even if there is "NO DEAL" police could attempt to charge you with "Intent to commit the act of engaging in prostitution". If you have no business to be in the area.

Police are pretty good at coming up with charges, even if they don't stick, an arrest can destroy you life as you know it.

I am not in Seattle yet moving there next month. Right now where I am police are doing stings 7 days a week. They are getting very sneaky in their attempts to bust guys including using photos and ads from well known providers and putting in a sentence "I got a new number guys, call me here XXXXXXXXXXXX" . The police seem to really be focusing on the purchase now more than the act of selling, so don't think if they put pressure on the girl she would give you up in 1 second flat.

[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5736541]I don't think the police really care about your car, honestly. If it's a nice ride, they might look at it more than others, but other than that I don't think they'll really care.

Generally, SPD aren't really busting anyone right now. I'm not sure when that's going to change, but at some point it will. They're a presence because businesses and residents want them to be, and they move around as a form of deterrence. The girls are used to them being there and continue to keep doing what they do. That being said, I have seen moments over the past year when SPD did stop a guy after picking a girl up. It's typically not until after she gets in the car, and she'll come to your window to ask if you have a certain amount of money before she gets in. Traditionally this has been bad form, but all of the girls are doing it now so it'll be hard to get a date without talking to her through the window. Just know that this is how police stings operate, the girl talks at you through the window. The difference is that an undercover will pressure you immediately to agree to a sex act for money. She'll signal and the police will pounce. Most girls out there right now are only asking how much money you have and if you have what they're looking for, she'll get in. There's nothing illegal about that, but when I've seen guys get stopped it's always been right after the pick-up. I don't know if there's much to go on, but they'll separate the both of you and because the girl doesn't know you and doesn't care about you, she'll tell the police whatever they want to hear so she can get back out to make some money. You'll be stuck holding the bag in front of god and everyone for probably a long time until they either cite you or let you go. It's not very common and probably not likely to happen to you, but that's how I've seen it go down since 2020 up to now.

That being said, I'm just not comfortable talking to a girl, much less picking her up, in front of police. I just don't want them to know 100% that I'm out there picking-up girls. That could make me a target for a later date. But I'm also not the type to pick-up an SW in front of a lot of regular pedestrians or traffic. That's just me.

So in short, you'll probably be fine. Just be as clandestine as possible and remember. The girls know that the police nor the city prosecutors are after them anymore, they're after the johns. Because of that, they don't care if you feel uncomfortable while they solicit in front of police. The other warning I'll give is that there seems to be a rise in underage girls out there, so you'll want to be careful with that.

Other than that, do what your stomach allows.[/QUOTE]Damn ST, that's a nice got damn break down. Honestly I wish more guys would report here often. I don't pick up, but have seen the view this past summa. Was AMAZING!

Being wordy is what I do, LOL.

[QUOTE=BusSit69;5737404]Damn ST, that's a nice got damn break down. Honestly I wish more guys would report here often. I don't pick up, but have seen the view this past summa. Was AMAZING![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5734667]Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it also a felony to transport a provider to her dates? Could be as simple as a provider asking, "hey, can you give me a ride to somewhere?" after you both finish your time together. You agree, not knowing why she's going there, and then something happens and suddenly you're on the hook.

I'm trying to remember, but I think this happened to someone on TNA a long time ago if i'm not mistaken. TNA provider asked one of her goofball regulars to bring her to a casino so she could work the floor for dates while he played slots and had free drinks. Then security caught her because she was well-known to them for trolling the floor for dates. They called the police, who took her into a room and she gave-up the guy as her driver pretty much immediately. They let her go because for her it was only a misdemeanor and she bailed, but they came out and got him because driving her there while with the intent to solicit and "work" was a felony. She gave him up to save her own ass and he was nice enough to bring the w***e to the casino in the first place, LOL. I'm not really on TNA much but I do seem to recall that rather dramatic post some time ago. And from what I recall the weirdo was on TNA defending her actions in that post.[/QUOTE]I remember that on TNA. The issue with that guy was he lived in North Portland. She wanted to go to the casino north of vancouver. Your recollection was right that she ratted him out immediately, but the Washington DA ended up pressing for trafficking charges because he drove her across state lines to commit a felony. He admitted that he knew what she was doing in the casino. That's what got him busted. He admitted what her intentions were plus he drove her across state lines. That's the double whammy that got him convicted. Was like 7 years or something if I remember right.

Wow, that's a different case than the one I recall. From what I remember, the incident to which I referred happened in Seattle area, I think a casino up in Skagit county. But I'm not surprised that another case very similar to this one also occurred.

This just brings up a series of questions in my mind. For instance, out on the stroll we're all pretty much transporting the girls. So Hypothetically, if one of us brings her back out to the stroll after our date, are we committing a felony? We all know in our minds that she'll be working out there. She might not have an actual date set-up yet, but we know that at some point after we drop her that she will have another date. So, theoretically, we're assisting in her quest to commit sex work. I wonder where that boundary exists. In this current political climate of prosecutors focusing on johns, I'm wondering if this might be pursued at some point. I could see this being an option particularly in the case where an underage SW is involved.

Hell, I don't know, just thinking out loud here. The bottom-line is that john busts out on Aurora are coming, I think they're just formulating how they're going to go about it. The above just seems like another charge to throw at the wall.

[QUOTE=Alas5877;5738582]I remember that on TNA. The issue with that guy was he lived in North Portland. She wanted to go to the casino north of vancouver. Your recollection was right that she ratted him out immediately, but the Washington DA ended up pressing for trafficking charges because he drove her across state lines to commit a felony. He admitted that he knew what she was doing in the casino. That's what got him busted. He admitted what her intentions were plus he drove her across state lines. That's the double whammy that got him convicted. Was like 7 years or something if I remember right.[/QUOTE]

With the clear night I decided to go out for a bit and see what I might find. Plenty of girls out, mostly from 137th down to the motels. I just couldn't really find any who appealed to me. Most were overly made-up with their wigs, eyelashes, eyebrows and make-up, a few almost looked as though they were in some sort of theater play, their make-up very much caked-on and pasty white. Quite a few were just too overweight for my taste. I parked in the usual spot and watched a few walk past, a couple of them walked over to the window and asked if I might be interested. Just not feeling it.

I did pass the ubiquitous, at least to me, BSW spinner who wears glasses. I don't stroll much these days, but whenever I do there is a good chance I'll see this girl out there. She's got a great little spinner body, usually in a short skirt. I've talked with her on two occasions over the past year, all safety, rate starts at $120 and from what I recall doesn't give head. Last time I talked with her she wanted to charge me $20 for giving her phone number and I immediately shut that down. No fuckin way I'd ever do that, and it ticked me off. But every time I see her, I want that body, LOL. I was stuck at a stoplight and she walked past from across the street, smiled at me and nodded. So tonight I actually had the fleeting thought of trying to go covered just to see what she's like. But then I remembered that I didn't have any condoms and whenever I do use them, I like to use certain brands. I didn't want to leave it up to her to supply one because often their options suck. So I talked myself out of it. It's hard to go on a description here, but anyone ever date her? She's from southern California but been up here for probably almost a year now. Told me she was 20, glasses, thin spinner body, nice brown skin, usually longer dark hair (probably a wig). Against my better judgement, I think the time is coming when I'll pull the trigger.

Really nice but very young-looking tiny BSW spinner approached me down near 107th. Had seen her earlier up near 125th. Tight yoga or stretch pants, attractive face. She came to the window but I was spooked by how young she might be. I shook my head "no" and pulled away. She was pretty damn hot though.

That was the most activity I've had out on Aurora in at least a couple of months. I feel like an amateur these days, all skittish and unsure. It's not that the girls out there are all bad-looking, it's a combination of factors which essentially causes me to talk myself out of a potential experience. That combination involves the overall feeling of the street-hustle, limited service, overall lack of connection. Try as I have been, I'm just not feeling it with these huslter girls from California since 2020. Something about it is just off and I've been unable to verbally describe nor articulate it in the same way that I'm feeling it whenever I'm out there. Just not the same anymore.

[QUOTE=StreetTroller;5740352]With the clear night I decided to go out for a bit and see what I might find. Plenty of girls out, mostly from 137th down to the motels. I just couldn't really find any who appealed to me. Most were overly made-up with their wigs, eyelashes, eyebrows and make-up, a few almost looked as though they were in some sort of theater play, their make-up very much caked-on and pasty white. Quite a few were just too overweight for my taste. I parked in the usual spot and watched a few walk past, a couple of them walked over to the window and asked if I might be interested. Just not feeling it.

I did pass the ubiquitous, at least to me, BSW spinner who wears glasses. I don't stroll much these days, but whenever I do there is a good chance I'll see this girl out there. She's got a great little spinner body, usually in a short skirt. I've talked with her on two occasions over the past year, all safety, rate starts at $120 and from what I recall doesn't give head. Last time I talked with her she wanted to charge me $20 for giving her phone number and I immediately shut that down. No fuckin way I'd ever do that, and it ticked me off. But every time I see her, I want that body, LOL. I was stuck at a stoplight and she walked past from across the street, smiled at me and nodded. So tonight I actually had the fleeting thought of trying to go covered just to see what she's like. But then I remembered that I didn't have any condoms and whenever I do use them, I like to use certain brands. I didn't want to leave it up to her to supply one because often their options suck. So I talked myself out of it. It's hard to go on a description here, but anyone ever date her? She's from southern California but been up here for probably almost a year now. Told me she was 20, glasses, thin spinner body, nice brown skin, usually longer dark hair (probably a wig). Against my better judgement, I think the time is coming when I'll pull the trigger.

Really nice but very young-looking tiny BSW spinner approached me down near 107th. Had seen her earlier up near 125th. Tight yoga or stretch pants, attractive face. She came to the window but I was spooked by how young she might be. I shook my head "no" and pulled away. She was pretty damn hot though.

That was the most activity I've had out on Aurora in at least a couple of months. I feel like an amateur these days, all skittish and unsure. It's not that the girls out there are all bad-looking, it's a combination of factors which essentially causes me to talk myself out of a potential experience. That combination involves the overall feeling of the street-hustle, limited service, overall lack of connection. Try as I have been, I'm just not feeling it with these huslter girls from California since 2020. Something about it is just off and I've been unable to verbally describe nor articulate it in the same way that I'm feeling it whenever I'm out there. Just not the same anymore.[/QUOTE]Your last sentence really says it all, ST. It's not the same, and will likely never be. On top of it all, we now have the entire North Precinct either parked or cruising around out there. It makes me skittish and unsure also, which I've never been until recently. Limited service and stratospheric rates only reinforce my reluctance to even bother burning fuel anymore.

I was out and about Saturday after 8 pm. Decided to see what was out since it was not raining. Saw quite a few girls and a few manatees on the drive south. A few LE parked, and one that was behind me for a while until he got bored with me doing the speed limit.

But, holy shit, after turning around past 85th and heading north I quickly had a cop behind me. Within 10 block another pulled in front of him. By the time I got by 145th there were 3 cars bunched up. That's got to affect business which I'm sure will increase prices, less customers, need more $$$ per trick, which will chase away more buyers.

I know the scene is pretty active during the day. Is there that much LE presence in the daytime also?

Some brazen younger talent by Kidd Valley. 145th and Aurora. Not bashful. One is tall, brunette. Damn. Looks expensive. More than my $16.50 burger and fries WTF Kidd Valley?

About 10 ears ago when the city wanted to shut-down the stroll in Lake Union area where Amazon HQ is now located, SPD started tailing guys they thought were cruising for SWs. I was followed very closely a few times all the way to the I-5 on-ramp, at which point the cruiser turned around and went back. One night I decided to go back and the same police cruiser pulled me over on Dexter. He approached and point-blank asked me why I was down there so late. I actually laughed and told him that I could be down there, there was no curfew of which I was aware. To that he smiled and said, "look, I'm taking a [I]survey[/I]. Guys come down here at night and continually drive in [I]circles[/I] around the area. Just circling the blocks for hours. I wondering why". By this point he was laughing, just couldn't keep a straight face. So I asked, "I guess I don't understand why you're asking [I]me[/I] that question, I haven't circled, I'm just driving up Dexter". He said, "have a good night" and got back into his car. Never asked me for identification, either.

Generally SPD hasn't seemed to have been following suspected johns driving through Aurora since 2020. Perhaps now they're starting as a way to put the squeeze on. Spring is about two months away, at which time typically more traveling girls start returning to the area. So I'm wondering if there is going to start being more pressure applied to discourage the suspected coming activity. You have to admit that the past two summers have been pretty wild out there along Aurora, LOL, wondering if their trying to get ahead of that.

[QUOTE=HH216;5741880]I was out and about Saturday after 8 pm. Decided to see what was out since it was not raining. Saw quite a few girls and a few manatees on the drive south. A few LE parked, and one that was behind me for a while until he got bored with me doing the speed limit.

But, holy shit, after turning around past 85th and heading north I quickly had a cop behind me. Within 10 block another pulled in front of him. By the time I got by 145th there were 3 cars bunched up.[/quote]

I don't know, every time i've parked and watched since 2020 I haven't really seen a lot of the girls get picked-up. I've watched cars line-up for an SW and they all drove away after a deal couldn't be reached. I've always wondered how they're able to make money out there these days. But two girls i've seen regularly have told me that they both made about $800-$1500 a day. Every day. My one regular from California did say that she was only making about $500/day during her last visit this past fall and that this was the lowest amount she's ever made in Seattle since she started coming up here in 2017. The other girl from LA told me that it can take 15 hours or longer out on Aurora to make $800 and some days she didn't make that. So in the end they are still making money, but they both seemed to indicate that it was taking longer and longer to do so. I would think rates and services would be more flexible during those times, but that doesn't seem to be the case. But one thing is clear - Aurora is pretty much the only remaining stroll in the entire metro area. I think the day is coming when it will be on it's last leg.

But I was amazed at how much money they can make in one day out there. And tax-free, too. Just think that most of these girls are part of a crew where they're all generally bringing-in that much money per person. Somebody at the top is making a lot of money, even on a slow day.

[QUOTE=HH216;5741880]That's got to affect business which I'm sure will increase prices, less customers, need more $$$ per trick, which will chase away more buyers.[/QUOTE]

I'm not really a day-cruiser, but the times I've driven through in daylight there isn't as much of a police presence out there which to me seems backward. I would think that girls out there at night when there is less traffic would be better for residents than having to see girls in miniskirts shaking their asses at traffic during the day. But hell what do I know.

[QUOTE=HH216;5741880]I know the scene is pretty active during the day. Is there that much LE presence in the daytime also?[/QUOTE]