NoVA SugarBabies

[QUOTE=NovaNova;7032154]I've noticed a lot of the really good on site communication and then ghosting once phone number exchanged. Maybe some new scam for guys that actually give a real number. Anyone else experience an uptick in this?[/QUOTE]I've had good site communication with at least 5 girls over the past month. Got the phone number, texted, then never heard back. Not sure what is going on. But all 5 haven't been active in weeks since initial communication.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bef29ac5-03af-4505-8dd2-c70383f72a36[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/47482db5-1c33-415e-b022-71c166111db8[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cb8cc92e-6f84-44bc-8773-f08296d285d9[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/613640c9-75c7-4a90-8f25-d08bb9e06ae9[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/926c56cd-187e-467e-ab33-5a465bb93694[/URL]

Alice.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2e0e3852-bf55-446b-9740-eb0bcc443b81[/URL]

Honduras woman, 28. Little chubby. Wanted 500 ppm.

Mimi.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d5192188-0dad-4a03-8006-fe0da45e7f8b[/URL]

Asked for my phone number and then ghosted me.

Sara.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/349d9baa-27d7-47e3-aef0-4752f50701d4[/URL]

Wanted to meet for drinks and then go shopping before discussing allowance. I was not interested.

Anastasia.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9bb95abf-7e1e-42e5-836a-4f4edfe0d1c8[/URL]

26 year old. She was looking for 1000/ week, and then additional for hookups like her last arrangement. Was not interested.

Ebony Peititechocolatething.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ee851e56-7fe0-4806-b34d-123d9279aaa7[/URL]

Cute 26 year old. Chatted and then demanded pic. When I asked for hers first, she ghosted.

Cece Luvvvcece.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/aebb6019-e056-4b0d-978d-4bc91eb3db70[/URL]

18 year old in NW DC. Her attitude cancelled out her youth and I lost interest.

Jasmine carribeanbeauty.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/64c5a400-6773-4380-8782-79069276798e[/URL]

Chatted and made plans to meet up. Then she she was having second thoughts since I was married. Ghosted.

Abby.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e90e9a63-a82a-4436-b47f-bdd82e1aa7b3[/URL]

Chatted. She is tall (5'11) and thin (120 lbs). Great body if you like tall model-types. Agreed on $500 ppm. However, her sense of entitlement was a turn-off so I passed.

[QUOTE=AdcFellow;7034471]Alice.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2e0e3852-bf55-446b-9740-eb0bcc443b81[/URL]

Honduras woman, 28. Little chubby. Wanted 500 ppm.

Mimi.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d5192188-0dad-4a03-8006-fe0da45e7f8b[/URL]

Asked for my phone number and then ghosted me.

Sara.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/349d9baa-27d7-47e3-aef0-4752f50701d4[/URL]

Wanted to meet for drinks and then go shopping before discussing allowance. I was not interested.

Anastasia...[/QUOTE]Sarah.

She's not 26. I met her several years ago for m&g. A waste of time. You should be able to find her insta. She's either going to ask for high $$$ but not worth it. What a shame she's a Harvard grad and still hoing for $$.

Abby. BBFS, etc has a funk thou. She's been around.

Are you using an App Number (eg. TextFree, TextMe)? I think some phones or texting apps identify app numbers as such and many women associate these with flakes and scams. I use an app number and sometimes I think getting a "real" burner phone may result in better responses.

It could be number harvesting, or scammers / blackmailers who, when they see no google results for your number, simply move on.

[QUOTE=NovaNova;7032154]I've noticed a lot of the really good on site communication and then ghosting once phone number exchanged. Maybe some new scam for guys that actually give a real number. Anyone else experience an uptick in this?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChadwickX;7033925]I've had good site communication with at least 5 girls over the past month. Got the phone number, texted, then never heard back. Not sure what is going on. But all 5 haven't been active in weeks since initial communication.[/QUOTE]

Any intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b3fbd0c0-076d-40bc-adfd-8a7a1a7fa46d[/URL]

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;7035183]Any intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b3fbd0c0-076d-40bc-adfd-8a7a1a7fa46d[/URL][/QUOTE]Dude clean out your inbox.

[QUOTE=ShortMan22;7035192]Dude clean out your inbox.[/QUOTE]USAG allows 200 message inbox + sent combined. This is a common problem we will run into. Here's how to delete some quickly:

Click Notifications and hit Inbox. Your messages will display and you scroll towards the bottom. A message says "Inbox contains XX messages. You have XX messages stored, of a total 200 allowed. " This means once you have a total of 200 in / sent messages you can't send or receive more messages. To delete some old messages, look right above and see the "Date Filter". I set the range from 2014 to Jan 1 2024. Then hit "Apply filter". This will show those old messages. Then click the 1 checkbox near the upper right and you'll see every message auto-selected. Scroll down and click on the tab "Selected Messages" and hit the action "Delete" then click "Proceed". Done.

If this is a recurring problem, you can download to CSV and then delete everything. Go to the last page of your inbox / sent (this is required to skip a bug). Click on the upper right button to select all. You will see in 'Selected Messages' all of the messages are selected (multiple pages), so you then export it to. Csv or whatever. CSV can then import into whichever spreadsheet program you use Libre, Excel, etc.

While I am here, here is an iphone / data security guide for those who take pictures and videos:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=6978391#post6978391[/URL]

This saved me 2 weeks ago when I took a jgirl on a date and the first thing she did when I turned on my GPS was browse through my phone and see if I was a pervert. I was declared innocent (I am guilty). She even checked my Youtube history before she started her music playlist for the drive.

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;7035183]Any intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b3fbd0c0-076d-40bc-adfd-8a7a1a7fa46d[/URL][/QUOTE]She's real. DTF, a little heavier than her pics, but still attractive and seemed willing to please. Had a M&G, but never pulled the trigger. I think she wanted 400.

Picture seller.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9376327c-e9ce-4966-8be3-5e94bfc4ffa9[/URL]

[QUOTE=AdcFellow;7034471]
Mimi.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d5192188-0dad-4a03-8006-fe0da45e7f8b[/URL]

Asked for my phone number and then ghosted me.
[/QUOTE]Sort of a similar experience with me. I got her number and we did text, but a couple messages in, she stopped responding. Interesting thing is the photo on the profile is of one girl, but the number she gave me doesn't seem to be a fake number and is registered to another girl who happens to be friends or an acquaintance of the girl in the photos. I don't really know what to make of it. I wonder if she is using her friend's photos on the site for discretion.

Any details on this one? I messaged her but have not heard anything yet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ce209e9e-52ec-43d9-8cc7-159b6e88a4ed[/URL]

[QUOTE=Emesdee;7035517]Sort of a similar experience with me. I got her number and we did text, but a couple messages in, she stopped responding. Interesting thing is the photo on the profile is of one girl, but the number she gave me doesn't seem to be a fake number and is registered to another girl who happens to be friends or an acquaintance of the girl in the photos. I don't really know what to make of it. I wonder if she is using her friend's photos on the site for discretion.[/QUOTE]I saw this profile before first reported but concluded in was probobly fake IMO. There are a bunch of red flags that I saw and if anyone else sees different then feel free to weigh in. 1. Profile is new 2. Pictures appear to be different people. First picture, cute little asian spinner with light hair which appears to be taken in Asia based upon the building in the background; second picture thicker but not fat asian and a taller asian spinner which appears to be in a western nation. Obviously the spinner is not the thicker girl so taller girl is supposed to be the girl in the first picture. Although I do not think the spinner in the first picture is the same spinner in the second photo, what caught my attention was the height. She lists her height at 5'-2". The thicker girl is considerably shorter in the second pic which would put the thicker girl somwhere in the range of 4'-8" to 4'-10" or so which is noticbly short even for an asian or hispanic chick. Also consider the railings in the background. Railings in the US are generally 42" in height. Looking at the thick girl compared to the railing, she appears taller than 56" to 58". 3. The second picture appears to be a dated, but well kept up neighborhood, of which I cannot think of any around DC. Could be Baltimore or some other city but at least in DC not a lot of vinyl siding row houses next to garage row houses sporting 1980's awning that I can think of. 4. Third picture is useless and skin tone appears much more yellow but this could be due to lighting. Why would she share pictures of herself in #1, her friend and herself in #2, and then pick some useless eyeball pic for #3. 4. A picture of two people without the face blocked out. Although I have found some real ones with a second person in the photo, the second person's face is always hidden. No reasonable girl is going to share her friend's face on her SA profile.

I have seen one that used photos of another girl when I actually did met her but she was still very hot and admitted she only did that so no one would find out she was on SA. Maybe I am over analizing but this one just seems to throw up too many flags for me to believe it is real. Just an opinion so if anyone has any other thoughts would love to hear so we can help eachother spot the fakes.

Any info on this one? Pursuing me out of the blue from miami and beverly hills?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b745dd8f-3b07-422d-b375-298a2f4a278a[/URL]

Arianna expects 1 k. LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/223434a1-8552-4c7e-bca8-cba03aad2cbc[/URL]

I have posted about this a few weeks ago. Now wasting 300 for 90 day membership again. Its hopeless for me at this time. I rejoined recently after 2 years after losing one of my SBs and seeking is a shell of its former self. I am going to list a few scammers below but I would love to hear from people who have tried any other competitors to SA like SDM, SB or even WYP recently. Are they any better? It astonishing to me that I am not even close to finding a replacement despite my experience and resources. It will probably be pure luck or fluke if it happens. I am searching in 40 miles radius DC and baltimore area.

Here are a few profiles you don't need to waste your time on. That will also give you idea of my type. Any help or ideas are most welcome.

Amber: E-meets only.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/59be9bd2-4060-4de4-aebb-1d4adfc2c345[/URL]

Elizabeth: selling pics.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/548adafc-fbeb-48c1-8579-2f6d58aee143[/URL]

Lauren: $100 in advance, 400 ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7e72b772-ba8b-429e-b3d4-e2e4dd1e8d74[/URL]

Sarah: Stopped responding after told about no advance money transfer.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/92bb89df-74aa-4059-9a5d-43cc83be1b55[/URL]

Cynthia: digits on first message. Gas money scam.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a631b566-295a-451f-adfa-bd49e0f73cdf[/URL]

June: now in florida selling pics.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/66f65359-39f3-4ee8-ad40-d56d25ce6b23[/URL]

Dimples: I have seen her multiple profiles before. Selling pics.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/616837ac-e366-423d-ae8d-83ff6a353e08[/URL]

[QUOTE=HornyTwist;7037892]...[/QUOTE]Against my better judgement, I paid for a month. Of the 100+ accounts messaging me, maybe 20 were attractive real humans. After filtering heavily for fakes, I've had a $5 k / month ask, one escort's digits, several ghosts, and three breadcrumbers. Maybe I'm dumb, but I'm hoping one of the latter three ends up with a meet.

I was seeing a stripper otc now and then to take care of things, but she was aggravating and flipped out recently, perhaps permanently blocking me.

It's way easier to get pussy in just about any other city in the country. My theory is that the high number of rich, powerful male politicians coming to the area blows up the market.

Definitely the absolute worst in my 5 years.

I guess the question is, is Sugar a declining thing generally, or are SBs migrating to other platforms? Honestly don't know the answer.

[QUOTE=HornyTwist;7037892]I have posted about this a few weeks ago. Now wasting 300 for 90 day membership again. Its hopeless for me at this time. I rejoined recently after 2 years after losing one of my SBs and seeking is a shell of its former self. I am going to list a few scammers below but I would love to hear from people who have tried any other competitors to SA like SDM, SB or even WYP recently. Are they any better? It astonishing to me that I am not even close to finding a replacement despite my experience and resources. It will probably be pure luck or fluke if it happens. I am searching in 40 miles radius DC and baltimore area.

Here are a few profiles you don't need to waste your time on. That will also give you idea of my type. Any help or ideas are most welcome.

Amber: E-meets only.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/59be9bd2-4060-4de4-aebb-1d4adfc2c345[/URL]

Elizabeth: selling pics.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/548adafc-fbeb-48c1-8579-2f6d58aee143[/URL]

Lauren: $100 in advance, 400 ppm.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FrankCastle6;7037947]Against my better judgement, I paid for a month. Of the 100+ accounts messaging me, maybe 20 were attractive real humans. After filtering heavily for fakes, I've had a $5 k / month ask, one escort's digits, several ghosts, and three breadcrumbers. Maybe I'm dumb, but I'm hoping one of the latter three ends up with a meet.

I was seeing a stripper otc now and then to take care of things, but she was aggravating and flipped out recently, perhaps permanently blocking me.

It's way easier to get pussy in just about any other city in the country. My theory is that the high number of rich, powerful male politicians coming to the area blows up the market.[/QUOTE]Please explain "breadcrumbers."

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7039513]Please explain "breadcrumbers."[/QUOTE]"breadcrumbing" is a term for when they dole out just enough attention to keep you interested, but aren't really serious.

These girls are answering with a couple of sentences every couple of days. I'm pretty sure they're real, just some combination of entitled, used to not putting in any effort for attention, and lazy.

[QUOTE=TttGith;6957005]Has anyone had experience with McQueen? Her profile looked good and I sent her an intro message. It was kinda generic but it had a hook to show that I read her profile and I wasn't asking for pics right away. She replied "You are clearly a scammer. Goodbye" and then blocked me. Rough.[/QUOTE]I feel like someone is tapping that. She's been around a while with no mention here at all, so prob someone playing it close to the vest, which is fine. There are a few out there like that. Been around too long to be a scam, and seems to be too good to have no mention.

This one's real big on the charm LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9bac820d-9ba0-4b17-9bcd-4df511cfe81d[/URL]

Tried accessing the site this morning and got this pleasant message.

"We have detected some unusual activity on this account, resulting in suspension. During this time you will not be able to contact other users or pay for any services.

Please note that account suspensions are issued for either of the following reasons:

A violation of our Terms of Use.

Actions that trigger our automated security system.

We take such initiatives in order to identify / prevent violations and, ultimately, protect our member community. For more information, feel free to read our FAQs".

I've had my account shut down before, a few yrs ago, but I don't remember the verbiage they used at that time. Is a "suspension" a temporary thing while they look into whatever it is that triggered the system? Or am I proper fucked and this is essentially them telling me my account has been shut down? That whole "during this time you won't be blah blah" part of the message is confusing me. Idk if I should be expecting a follow up email from them in a day or two saying, after looking further into the situation, your account has been reinstated and / or closed permanently, or if this is just their way of saying you're blocked, go fuck yourself. ?

Any intel on this profile.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/0dc70c10-b4d2-4639-961a-bd8ec25f5012[/URL]

Name is Bestie.

In that sweetspot of not being an obvious fake (fake IG model photos) but also don't see many fit white lasses on this site.

This one was catch and release.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bea5d6fd-0064-4c6d-8961-c40fa62c7c5a[/URL]

She is truly 19 (she will show you her I'd), petite with a spinner body. Face is not great. Reasonable allowance. Enjoy, and always treat the ladies with respect.

[QUOTE=VictorSmitham;7009391]Yah man she has hooker written all over her. She said that she has a kid too. Sheesh.[/QUOTE]I met her last week! DTF, price was a little high for what you get. Won't repeat as no vibe. I think she is UTR highish volume, tries to downplay.

This can happen from too many messages that are cut and paste. Like your opener. It can even occur if you go through and remove access to private photos for a bunch of old profiles you aren't interested in anymore. That happened to me. Because removing access to pix always sends a message to the girl, and they are all identical.

If you didn't do either of those, you likely did run afoul of TOS, and you might expect to be 1) asked to view a video about the TOS and be put on probation or 2) get that profile banned.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;7042367]Tried accessing the site this morning and got this pleasant message.

"We have detected some unusual activity on this account, resulting in suspension. During this time you will not be able to contact other users or pay for any services.

Please note that account suspensions are issued for either of the following reasons:

A violation of our Terms of Use.

Actions that trigger our automated security system.

We take such initiatives in order to identify / prevent violations and, ultimately, protect our member community. For more information, feel free to read our FAQs".[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/627663c3-350a-4ecd-8875-86f2cb86c88c[/URL]

Does anyone have intel on this young lady? Seems too good to be true, from the allowance she quoted me.

[QUOTE=GeechieDan;7042977][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/627663c3-350a-4ecd-8875-86f2cb86c88c[/URL]

Does anyone have intel on this young lady? Seems too good to be true, from the allowance she quoted me.[/QUOTE]OF model. Not real.

[QUOTE=VictorSmitham;7009391]Yah man she has hooker written all over her. She said that she has a kid too. Sheesh.[/QUOTE]Let it go.

[QUOTE=United1;7042686]Any intel on this profile.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/0dc70c10-b4d2-4639-961a-bd8ec25f5012[/URL]

Name is Bestie.

In that sweetspot of not being an obvious fake (fake IG model photos) but also don't see many fit white lasses on this site.[/QUOTE]Link goes to your inbox friend. Almost everyone has done that at least once.

[QUOTE=BuckNaked84;7039140]Definitely the absolute worst in my 5 years.

I guess the question is, is Sugar a declining thing generally, or are SBs migrating to other platforms? Honestly don't know the answer.[/QUOTE]That is the question I was getting at as well. Evolution is a strange thing. Seeking changed gradually over last 2 years while I was away on my regular rotation. Now I feel out of place there for last 4 months because I have nothing to show for them. I was only able to meet a pro but would not repeat due to poor experience. I may have some extra negative factors as compared to other guys here such as no public pics but I used to get so many more responses 2 years ago on same profile and most responses were legit. Now, Not many SB are checking my profile even the ones who are replying. I had parked my account and I have not changed my filters much. If anything, filters have became more inclusive because I thought maybe I am being too restrictive.

I hope that collected wisdom here can provide the best guess on if its a me problem or We problem. If others are having similar issues, then the question is, where did all the real SBs go? Is any of other SD / SB websites worth the membership? If so, which one is the closest to SA? Any recent experiences? Its a depressing thought that golden age in online sugaring may be over. I am still not accepting it and spending 300 on seeking every 90 days like its still a valuable resource it use to be.

[QUOTE=VictorSmitham;7009391]Yah man she has hooker written all over her. She said that she has a kid too. Sheesh.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, All these girls are hooker they're receiving $$$ for the D.

Some might have a girl that claim it's their first time but whatever. They're here for cash.

Even, online dating most girls want something for a date. Whether a meal or gift. Like a spoiling bf.

[QUOTE=VictorSmitham;7009391]Yah man she has hooker written all over her. She said that she has a kid too. Sheesh.[/QUOTE]Time stamp on this quoted post is October 1st. Of this year. How the fuck?

[QUOTE=TheCurve;7036875]Any info on this one? Pursuing me out of the blue from miami and beverly hills?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b745dd8f-3b07-422d-b375-298a2f4a278a[/URL]

Arianna expects 1 k. LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/223434a1-8552-4c7e-bca8-cba03aad2cbc[/URL][/QUOTE]Arianna reached out to me first. I am not really in the market right now since I am happy with what I have going on but figured I would follow up with her for fun. Anyway quick to respond, wanted to hang out immediately, and quoted $500. Based upon her heading "Available Now" and the fact that she wanted to hang out right away without meeting publicly first I am thinking pro.

[QUOTE=HornyTwist;7043224]That is the question I was getting at as well. Evolution is a strange thing. Seeking changed gradually over last 2 years while I was away on my regular rotation. Now I feel out of place there for last 4 months because I have nothing to show for them. I was only able to meet a pro but would not repeat due to poor experience. I may have some extra negative factors as compared to other guys here such as no public pics but I used to get so many more responses 2 years ago on same profile and most responses were legit. Now, Not many SB are checking my profile even the ones who are replying. I had parked my account and I have not changed my filters much. If anything, filters have became more inclusive because I thought maybe I am being too restrictive.

I hope that collected wisdom here can provide the best guess on if its a me problem or We problem. If others are having similar issues, then the question is, where did all the real SBs go? Is any of other SD / SB websites worth the membership? If so, which one is the closest to SA? Any recent experiences? Its a depressing thought that golden age in online sugaring may be over. I am still not accepting it and spending 300 on seeking every 90 days like its still a valuable resource it use to be.[/QUOTE]I have found that lots of strippers or bartenders (mainly at strip clubs) are into the SB game, however, they do ask for more than 500, so get ready to spend. I have also found that some of the friends of SB's are also into the game or at least are curious. They are afraid to be on the website, but do want to be part of the game by piggybacking of her friend. The thing is, that you can only get the friend that's not on any website if you ask for threesome (have to cough up the PPM for the friend too) and then get her digits after that, otherwise your current SB won't just introduce her friend to you in fear she will lose some income, which of course she will LOL.

You are right about the Seeking website, it sucks now. I can't find even a college average looking girl there. I am sticking to my finds from last year and early this year.

Any Intel on this one:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1309fdb9-6019-412a-981d-d81903a5943f[/URL]

Ready to meet right away, ask was high, but negotiated quickly down.

Tia!

She must be desperate or in need of quick cash. She reached out to me and wanted to meet sametime.

[QUOTE=NovaNova;7044486]Arianna reached out to me first. I am not really in the market right now since I am happy with what I have going on but figured I would follow up with her for fun. Anyway quick to respond, wanted to hang out immediately, and quoted $500. Based upon her heading "Available Now" and the fact that she wanted to hang out right away without meeting publicly first I am thinking pro.[/QUOTE]

This is one is coming through DC and just landed. Will meet for $400.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/11f5290b-962d-402f-847d-a87f3a4e9b69[/URL]

Have not pulled the trigger and probably won't but pics look good!

This one, the pics look better than in person; dtf, easy to meet with, 5 is good!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0743452f-7003-4ae7-8387-0f1f21afb191[/URL]

[QUOTE=ShortMan22;7045241]She must be desperate or in need of quick cash. She reached out to me and wanted to meet sametime.[/QUOTE]She's huge. If those are her best pics trying to look thinner. Need to add another 50 lbs for that beach whale.

I wouldn't touch that thing.

Rotation is zero.

Probably a good thing. My accountant approves.