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There is a lot of talk in this thread about the agencies working together and eavesdropping on electronic communications. First, you have to keep things in perspective. If you are just a guy out there getting his pipes cleaned, they are not likely to invest a lot of time and energy on you. Now if you are chasing children for sex, running a prostitution ring or human trafficking that would be a different story. I am certain they are watching and building a case.

My background used to be IT, specializing in database architecture, systems security and analytics. Yeah, a boring life. You might notice if you follow my posts, I rarely post my out if town escapades. Marketing organizations and LE have reporting methods based on credit card purchases (and in the case of LEO, air, bus and train travel records) where you can punch in 3 or 4 cities and specific dates or date ranges and they will have within a very short list of names showing who was there. For example, if you post something saying you were dreaming in New York on one day, Chicago a couple weeks later and Orlando on other days. They know exactly who you are.

Providers should really pay attention. If you are using credit cards, moving from town to town and posting on either the Forum or Backpage, they already know who you are. LEO does not need access to the Forum servers or the read the electronic communication to identify your IP address.

This is NOT rocket science. This is simple technology these days. I make sure that I rarely post any of my escapades on the same day that they happen or in the same order. If LEO is collecting license plate numbers they can also tie patterns to posts. Paranoid? Nah. I'm not only a hunter, but I could also be the hunted and I leave nothing to chance. The only saving grace to me is, are they really interested in a guy looking to get his pipes cleaned, treating all ladies with respect? I'm betting not.

Be safe, be smart and don't make stupid mistakes.

WOF

What would make a single charge of prostitution a felony? They are a few girls from St. Pete on the mugshot site with Felony next to their charge and no other charges. Is this a case of overcharging and the charge gets knocked down by the the?

Once you are charged with your 3rd solicitation charge it is considered a felony. I still think its overcharging but thats fuck ass Florida for you, excuse my french!

LayLa xoxoxo.

[QUOTE=OrlandoJ;1840962]What would make a single charge of prostitution a felony? They are a few girls from St. Pete on the mugshot site with Felony next to their charge and no other charges. Is this a case of overcharging and the charge gets knocked down by the the?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuciousLayLa; 1841002]Once you are charged with your 3rd solicitation charge it is considered a felony. I still think its overcharging but thats fuck ass Florida for you, excuse my french!

LayLa xoxoxo.[/QUOTE]Prostitution (along with marijuana) should be legalized and taxed. Can you imagine how many happy people there would be in this country if that happened?

Because in Jax on the shame shame shame justice collation there is a few there thats popped at least once a month been busted 10 or 15 times.

[QUOTE=OrlandoJ;1840962]What would make a single charge of prostitution a felony? They are a few girls from St. Pete on the mugshot site with Felony next to their charge and no other charges. Is this a case of overcharging and the charge gets knocked down by the the?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuciousLayLa; 1841002]Once you are charged with your 3rd solicitation charge it is considered a felony. I still think its overcharging but thats fuck ass Florida for you, excuse my french!

LayLa xoxoxo.[/QUOTE]I still don't understand why they spend the time on this! So if a lady gets caught the 1st or 2nd time does she also have to pay a fine?

Please note she said your 3rd charge would be considered subsequent offender. Most girls who are arrested the 1st time, if they hire an attorney are never charged, they will plead not guilty, or nollo contendre. So you must be CONVICTED 3 times. Also a girl may not have fines per say if she is not charged on the 1st or 2nd arrest but she will still have court costs, etc.

Basically it comes down to, if you're going to stay in the business HIRE A GOOD ATTORNEY. Ladies should be making enough money to afford someone that can get all charges dropped. Now this is just for prostitution offenses, if drugs and other things are involved thats a whole nother story.

[QUOTE=PleasureComp; 1842524]Please note she said your 3rd charge would be considered subsequent offender. Most girls who are arrested the 1st time, if they hire an attorney are never charged, they will plead not guilty, or nollo contendre. So you must be CONVICTED 3 times. Also a girl may not have fines per say if she is not charged on the 1st or 2nd arrest but she will still have court costs, etc.

Basically it comes down to, if you're going to stay in the business HIRE A GOOD ATTORNEY. Ladies should be making enough money to afford someone that can get all charges dropped. Now this is just for prostitution offenses, if drugs and other things are involved thats a whole nother story.[/QUOTE]Remember, approximately 90 percent of criminal matters never get to trial. Even for very serious offenses. Especially when you have an attorney.

[QUOTE=PleasureComp; 1842524]Please note she said your 3rd charge would be considered subsequent offender. Most girls who are arrested the 1st time, if they hire an attorney are never charged, they will plead not guilty, or nollo contendre. So you must be CONVICTED 3 times. Also a girl may not have fines per say if she is not charged on the 1st or 2nd arrest but she will still have court costs, etc.

Basically it comes down to, if you're going to stay in the business HIRE A GOOD ATTORNEY. Ladies should be making enough money to afford someone that can get all charges dropped. Now this is just for prostitution offenses, if drugs and other things are involved thats a whole nother story.[/QUOTE]If a person is never charged that is called a "No information" you have been arrested but the prosecutor for various reasons has decided to file a "no information' which means you are free to go.

For there to be a "Plea Deal" you must plead 'Not Guilty" at your arraignment and then strike a "Plea Deal", this is done by your attorney or public defender, once ok'd by the judge you proceed to the sentence for the crime that you agreed to plead guilty to. Fine, probation, VD test, Aides class etc, etc.

As far as a felony prosecution on the third arrest for prostitution, that is strictly up to the prosecution, I know one girl on the trail who was arrested at least 20x and never charged with a felony, this is not automatic. It depends on the situation, the girl and what the state can really prove if driven to a jury trial. Understand the state hates to lose, over 90% of all cases are plea bargained, if they were not the court system would be bogged down for years with jury trials.

Since the state hates to lose it only takes high profile slam dunks to trial. They were shocked when they lost the 'Casey Anthony" case, but all they proved was the child was dead they never connected the dots to "Casey" with absolute proof beyond a reasonable doubt for the jury. Because they couldn't.

Jeff Ashton is taking another slam dunk to trial but he is smart, he's staying out of the trial until the guy is convicted and then Ashton is coming in for the penalty phase. So that he gets the credit for getting the death sentence or a life in prison verdict. He's not making the same mistake he made in the Casey trial, he's the big kahuna now, an elected official and is no fool.

Remember in the court system there are very few absolutes much is left to the discretion of the prosecutors and the judges and the better and sharper your Attorney is, the better chance that discretion falls in your favor.

I'll give you an example of stupid; a well known provider in town (currently working on the road) Kay / Leslie hired an Attorney who is well know as a traffic ticket attorney, she is facing a R. I. C. O. Felony, this is NOT the guy to be defending that charge. While Kay is a nice woman she is not the sharpest knife in the drawer and this is a very poor decision on her part.

B. T. W. This is all public information if you know where to look.

VS

What should be a felony even at the first offense is Prostitution knowingly you are HIV+

That one girl who keeps being arrested and let go is a prime example.

I'm just trying to say a 3rd offense subsq offender is not based on number of arrests, its based on number of convictions.

Mondays suck. I need to relax and have the day off. Any ideas? Seems like Mondays are slim pickings.

[QUOTE=OrlandoJ;1840962]What would make a single charge of prostitution a felony? They are a few girls from St. Pete on the mugshot site with Felony next to their charge and no other charges. Is this a case of overcharging and the charge gets knocked down by the the?[/QUOTE]The most obvious answer is the girls might have HIV or some other communicable disease, especially if they've already tested positive. Of course, privacy laws mean they can't come out and say it, but typically a first time prostitution bust won't lead to a felony. I believe it's the 3rd offense.

The po-po can "charge" anyone with anything they want. Unless you are "convicted" the chances are high that you won't even get a misdemeanor. Keep in mind most charges are dropped or plea deals.

If the charges are dropped then no crime was ever committed. End of story!

If a plea deal is made then anything is possible. I have seen DUI'S plead out to parking tickets so the state gets the $$ but there is no criminal record. Point here is a good lawyer can do almost anything.

Everyone be safe and if you are ever contacted by the po-po say nothing without a lawyer present!

[QUOTE=Worldsoffun; 1840508]There is a lot of talk in this thread about the agencies working together and eavesdropping on electronic communications. First, you have to keep things in perspective. If you are just a guy out there getting his pipes cleaned, they are not likely to invest a lot of time and energy on you. Now if you are chasing children for sex, running a prostitution ring or human trafficking that would be a different story. I am certain they are watching and building a case.

My background used to be IT, specializing in database architecture, systems security and analytics. Yeah, a boring life. You might notice if you follow my posts, I rarely post my out if town escapades. Marketing organizations and LE have reporting methods based on credit card purchases (and in the case of LEO, air, bus and train travel records) where you can punch in 3 or 4 cities and specific dates or date ranges and they will have within a very short list of names showing who was there. For example, if you post something saying you were dreaming in New York on one day, Chicago a couple weeks later and Orlando on other days. They know exactly who you are.

Providers should really pay attention. If you are using credit cards, moving from town to town and posting on either the Forum or Backpage, they already know who you are. LEO does not need access to the Forum servers or the read the electronic communication to identify your IP address.

This is NOT rocket science. This is simple technology these days. I make sure that I rarely post any of my escapades on the same day that they happen or in the same order. If LEO is collecting license plate numbers they can also tie patterns to posts. Paranoid? Nah. I'm not only a hunter, but I could also be the hunted and I leave nothing to chance. The only saving grace to me is, are they really interested in a guy looking to get his pipes cleaned, treating all ladies with respect? I'm betting not.

Be safe, be smart and don't make stupid mistakes.

WOF[/QUOTE]Good point and well said. I was reading that the federal LEO has busted over 235 people. When a monger provides out of state travel expenses and provides a place to stay in change to have a personal blow me toy it could be consider human trafficking. I guess that the question is how involved are you with the providers.

Below is a link about cell phone hacking.