NoVA SugarBabies

[QUOTE=Dimples572;7010777]Maybe you're new, but if someone is only willing to take payment via gift cards that's an immediate red flag / scam. I mean why on earth would someone not accept cash or CashApp? And like I said, I asked multiple times if there was any other options besides gift cards but she was not willing to bend or consider any other options. They'll have you buy the gift card before they meet you. Then demand you give them the number off the back before they'll meet you, then you never hear from them again.[/QUOTE]So true. It's like they are admitting they're a scam. This one said she only takes venmo or cashapp in our early messages. Cash doesn't work. Ok, LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d85a7c45-86bc-48b1-89a1-bc7d79b58ff5[/URL]

[QUOTE=VictorSmitham;7008432]I've been trying to pursue this one SB. We talked on the phone and matched on SA. Definitely pretty but she was not responding for a bit so I gave it another shot. I told her that I got out of an arrangement and how much the arrangement was. Lo and behold she responded. She told me she thought we had a good connection and upfront told me that she deleted her account because the guys on SA were "not for her. " I believed her because I never asked her to delete the account although she was no longer visible on my account. So. Being the cunning sleuth that I am, I logged into my other account and she was visible!! Is this something that girls do to make guys think they are not pros?? Maybe I'm just gullible.[/QUOTE]It's all about money. Don't forget that. Whoever proposes the most will be the winner for that day.

[QUOTE=VictorSmitham;7010334]I don't understand these women. Why are they on seeking for platonic relationships??[/QUOTE]My experience is that when they check the platonic option its either (1) just to appear less "escortie" should friends see their profile on there, or (2) it done so to indicate its just one of many ryoe relationships they will do.

[QUOTE=RJKing1221;7012152]What was the damage on virginia you met on seeking?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c70f266-0a8d-46cf-9f05-b8b8e68262e1[/URL][/QUOTE]Hoping to hear some updates on this one, meeting scheduled for next week.

[QUOTE=PRMan12;7013640]Hoping to hear some updates on this one, meeting scheduled for next week.[/QUOTE]She's upfront and not new to it all. She told me after the hello text that she does ppm and her starting amount. I'm sure you can negotiate but claims 5 is what others give her.

I have a few questions about your SB experience.

Do you recommend SB or is the experience getting worse over time?

Are they typically independent?

Is your experience typical one and done or long term?

What red flags do you look for?

Thanks! I've been curious if a SB worth exploring.

[QUOTE=RyzenShine;7014050]I have a few questions about your SB experience.

Do you recommend SB or is the experience getting worse over time?

Are they typically independent?

Is your experience typical one and done or long term?

What red flags do you look for?

Thanks! I've been curious if a SB worth exploring.[/QUOTE]I'll answer your questions. Others may have different opinions.

Yes, I recommend the Sugar Game and have tutored 2 of my good friends who were old school looking for hookups in bars. And yes, the sugar experience is much worse than it was 5-10 years ago. Doesn't mean you can't have fun, it just requires a LOT of work.

Most SB's don't think of themselves as sex workers. And you will see pro's advertising as SB's. One of my best experiences was with a woman who was a SB and transitioned to a pro while we were in an arrangement. There are also bots, fakes, scammers, women seeking platonic and women with GPS.

Currently, I buy and hold. It's too much work to find a good SB. Previously, I dropped SB's for the smallest infractions (real or perceived). As a matter of personal preference, I enjoy the "connection" with a SB and therefore rarely did one-and-done unless the sex was bad.

Red flags? There are many. Read the numerous forums out on the internet and educate yourself before getting in the game. Rule #1: Never pay money up front. Only pay after the bump and grind. Rule #2: Never forget Rule #1.

Currently have a 4 SB rotation (although one has gone MIA). No plans to stop seeing any of them and not actively recruiting.

Wants money for her baby before meeting.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f241ba6-9cf2-41da-a5be-1e35060b627d[/URL]

Wants all expenses paid, but looks very hot.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3faef175-7ac7-4b98-ac22-6498cb81a104[/URL]

New pics but she is an old timer.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e7295662-8642-46d6-9898-ee0e920b60b7[/URL]

Anyone recall any info? Reviews?

[QUOTE=HeyDuhman;7015148]New pics but she is an old timer.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e7295662-8642-46d6-9898-ee0e920b60b7[/URL]

Anyone recall any info? Reviews?[/QUOTE]I chatted with her last week. Says she's not really interested in a "purely physical" arrangement.

[QUOTE=RudyWellz;7014382]I'll answer your questions. Others may have different opinions.

Yes, I recommend the Sugar Game and have tutored 2 of my good friends who were old school looking for hookups in bars. And yes, the sugar experience is much worse than it was 5-10 years ago. Doesn't mean you can't have fun, it just requires a LOT of work.

Most SB's don't think of themselves as sex workers. And you will see pro's advertising as SB's. One of my best experiences was with a woman who was a SB and transitioned to a pro while we were in an arrangement. There are also bots, fakes, scammers, women seeking platonic and women with GPS.

Currently, I buy and hold. It's too much work to find a good SB. Previously, I dropped SB's for the smallest infractions (real or perceived). As a matter of personal preference, I enjoy the "connection" with a SB and therefore rarely did one-and-done unless the sex was bad.

Red flags? There are many. Read the numerous forums out on the internet and educate yourself before getting in the game. Rule #1: Never pay money up front. Only pay after the bump and grind. Rule #2: Never forget Rule #1.

Currently have a 4 SB rotation (although one has gone MIA). No plans to stop seeing any of them and not actively recruiting.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything he said. Definitely worse than 5-10 years ago but worth it when you find a good one. My rotation is down to 3 but the 3 have been 4 years going strong. All unprotected, multiple rounds. I have gone back into the tank to find new ones but it's a hassle with the higher prices and meet and greets. Before my current 3, I probably had 8 regular SBs that fizzled over the years for different reasons.

I actually did go back into the tank recently and met a gorgeous 22 year old Latina but wanted 600 a meet and a guaranteed 4 times a month. Not sustainable with my other SBs so I met her twice hoping she would be okay with once a month since we got along well. Nope, didn't go for it. Her name was Delilah and a nurse. Lucky guy (s) whoever is currently seeing her. Really hot.

SB is great for business travel! Even international. Before your trip, buy the membership and put your profile in the destination city. Say in your profile your in town in business, it works really well since you have a paid hotel. They will even be tour guides that you can fuck LOL. Did that in two asian countries for business and it was amazing. Also do it in the US. Hopefully the game doesn't completely go away in 5 years at this rate.

[QUOTE=Jost815;7011697]I'm not 100% positive but I believe this is the girl that was scamming people. She will meet you at a hotel and have conversation to make it seem like things are normal. Then she'll try to get you to pay before proceeding and then bail.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e51c8d67-bec0-4254-880f-dbaac6708148[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for letting us know. She texted me on my burner but I have not met with her.

Wants 2 k ppm. LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/277f46c2-7ee6-4bf8-b58e-ec5af610a0ba[/URL]

I notice the Wish Lists are gone.

And she reports on PPM. LOL.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;7016022]Wants 2 k ppm. LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/277f46c2-7ee6-4bf8-b58e-ec5af610a0ba[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joe1278;7016329]And she reports on PPM. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dimples572;7016022]Wants 2 k ppm. LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/277f46c2-7ee6-4bf8-b58e-ec5af610a0ba[/URL][/QUOTE]I think her best quote is "If you're trying to have an affair there's websites for that".

No shit honey, like the one you are on.

Typically they point it out or put Trans-friendly in their profile tags. This one does neither but it does say but it does say "very passable" and looking for "open minded" guys. If you read between the lines, plus someone looks a little off in the pics, me thinks this one's a sheep in wolves clothing LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/aed55fd7-5c7b-4314-bb75-8e7d6c0a7d76[/URL]

Hey gents-.

Any Intel on this one: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c8a337a-bba8-4271-9a95-22985f7585c2[/URL].

Have a date planned for next week, so I can report back, but figured I would check with the boards.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=BuckNaked84;6968019]Probably way more hood than you want, but actually real. Not perusing.[/QUOTE]She's real, but wants 1500. I know no one here is paying that, but honestly who in there right mind would. She's 500 max and that's being generous. Hoping someone has been with her for less?

This one's a pro in town visiting.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/225481c6-dbd3-49b0-9861-7f6d76f26334[/URL]

[URL]https://alicesky.co/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Dimples572;7015411]I chatted with her last week. Says she's not really interested in a "purely physical" arrangement.[/QUOTE]Got the same statement from her. Then a prompt to tell me what I could do in an arrangement, which I really didn't know how to answer. Like, how much do I pay not to have sex?? That was the end of that discussion but she is sexy.

[QUOTE=PRMan12;7016790]Hey gents-.

Any Intel on this one: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c8a337a-bba8-4271-9a95-22985f7585c2[/URL].

Have a date planned for next week, so I can report back, but figured I would check with the boards.

Thanks![/QUOTE]She's had multiple accounts over the years. She's the one that'll do a cash and grab on you. Have you pay the ppm upfront and then ghost you. She's freak, but if you do actually see her make sure you stick to your guns and refuse to pay until the deed is done.

Yes. "Passable" is the tell.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;7016695]Typically they point it out or put Trans-friendly in their profile tags. This one does neither but it does say but it does say "very passable" and looking for "open minded" guys. If you read between the lines, plus someone looks a little off in the pics, me thinks this one's a sheep in wolves clothing LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/aed55fd7-5c7b-4314-bb75-8e7d6c0a7d76[/URL][/QUOTE]

PRMan, she's been reviewed by a few mongers. Including me. Search the NOVA board for Victoria and Tori. My last encounter with her was a cash and dash. Watch your 6 if you decide to meet. See post #13267. DM if you need more info

[QUOTE=PRMan12;7016790]Hey gents-.

Any Intel on this one: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c8a337a-bba8-4271-9a95-22985f7585c2[/URL].

Have a date planned for next week, so I can report back, but figured I would check with the boards.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;7017273]PRMan, she's been reviewed by a few mongers. Including me. Search the NOVA board for Victoria and Tori. My last encounter with her was a cash and dash. Watch your 6 if you decide to meet. See post #13267. DM if you need more info[/QUOTE]I think it may be a different girl, no cash and dash, but still not great, as the girl was very nice but 40 lbs added to pics!

[QUOTE=Tophat31;7015460]I agree with everything he said. Definitely worse than 5-10 years ago but worth it when you find a good one. My rotation is down to 3 but the 3 have been 4 years going strong. All unprotected, multiple rounds. I have gone back into the tank to find new ones but it's a hassle with the higher prices and meet and greets. Before my current 3, I probably had 8 regular SBs that fizzled over the years for different reasons.

I actually did go back into the tank recently and met a gorgeous 22 year old Latina but wanted 600 a meet and a guaranteed 4 times a month. Not sustainable with my other SBs so I met her twice hoping she would be okay with once a month since we got along well. Nope, didn't go for it. Her name was Delilah and a nurse. Lucky guy (s) whoever is currently seeing her. Really hot.

SB is great for business travel! Even international. Before your trip, buy the membership and put your profile in the destination city. Say in your profile your in town in business, it works really well since you have a paid hotel. They will even be tour guides that you can fuck LOL. Did that in two asian countries for business and it was amazing. Also do it in the US. Hopefully the game doesn't completely go away in 5 years at this rate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RudyWellz;7014382]I'll answer your questions. Others may have different opinions.

Yes, I recommend the Sugar Game and have tutored 2 of my good friends who were old school looking for hookups in bars. And yes, the sugar experience is much worse than it was 5-10 years ago. Doesn't mean you can't have fun, it just requires a LOT of work.

Most SB's don't think of themselves as sex workers. And you will see pro's advertising as SB's. One of my best experiences was with a woman who was a SB and transitioned to a pro while we were in an arrangement. There are also bots, fakes, scammers, women seeking platonic and women with GPS.

Currently, I buy and hold. It's too much work to find a good SB. Previously, I dropped SB's for the smallest infractions (real or perceived). As a matter of personal preference, I enjoy the "connection" with a SB and therefore rarely did one-and-done unless the sex was bad.

Red flags? There are many. Read the numerous forums out on the internet and educate yourself before getting in the game. Rule #1: Never pay money up front. Only pay after the bump and grind. Rule #2: Never forget Rule #1.

Currently have a 4 SB rotation (although one has gone MIA). No plans to stop seeing any of them and not actively recruiting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RyzenShine;7014050]I have a few questions about your SB experience.

Do you recommend SB or is the experience getting worse over time?

Are they typically independent?

Is your experience typical one and done or long term?

What red flags do you look for?

Thanks! I've been curious if a SB worth exploring.[/QUOTE]Rudy and Tophat offer sound response to your question that I have found to be 100% accurate during my time in the bowl which is far less than theirs. It is a ton of work to actually find a decent rotation of SBs to connect with. Unless you actually want to have repeat performances with some kind of a connection, escorts are a far easier and cheaper route to go and some of the agencies have some very hot girls. There was recently a report on the NOVA agency board describing a duo performance with two K-girls that look way hotter than many of the girls in the bowl. Many of the girls that I have met have complained that they get messages asking to meet in an hour or two as they do not consider themselves escorts. A quality SB has a job with her own life and will not be at your beckoning call. Many of these girls get dozens of messages every day so they may take several days or never respond to your message. I was able to build up my rotation of 3 over several months but then at the end of June one told me that she would no longer be able to see me after July so I was down to 2 in August. It took me all of July & August, tons of messages that either were not reponded to or went no where, a few meet and greets, a girl with a smoking body but a smelly pussy, a skinny asian that smelled weird with her clothes on, and a catfish I walked out on during the meet and greet, but I think I found her replacement today after all that work. Patience is the key and I too recommend if you are willing to put in the work and actually want the connection.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ccdb8fd0-8045-497e-903b-e23a76fc983f[/URL]

I see it pop up in searches, and I've never reached out to this profile, but anytime I click into the profile, it says it doesn't exist.

[QUOTE=Emesdee;7017455][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ccdb8fd0-8045-497e-903b-e23a76fc983f[/URL]

I see it pop up in searches, and I've never reached out to this profile, but anytime I click into the profile, it says it doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]Nope cannot see it on my real nor my ghost account. Guessing she has her profile hidden.

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;7017269]Yes. "Passable" is the tell.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dimples572;7016695]Typically they point it out or put Trans-friendly in their profile tags. This one does neither but it does say but it does say "very passable" and looking for "open minded" guys. If you read between the lines, plus someone looks a little off in the pics, me thinks this one's a sheep in wolves clothing LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/aed55fd7-5c7b-4314-bb75-8e7d6c0a7d76[/URL][/QUOTE]I believe overall consensus from the board is that this "chick" is a dude based on previous posts. Que Aerosmith "Dude Looks Like a Lady".

Is anyone noticing something weird about the seeking algorithm? I stupidly signed up for a 90 day membership and I'm being shown all old, busted up fat chicks. Even though I have been matching with only 8's, 9's, and 10's. I'm not sure what is going on but I'm kind of irritated that I spent so much and all of a sudden I'm not getting any matches or messages. When I signed up for 30 days, my inbox gets 3 - 5 messages per day and 20+ interested SBs. Anyone else noticing this bullshit?

[QUOTE=Emesdee;7017455][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ccdb8fd0-8045-497e-903b-e23a76fc983f[/URL]

I see it pop up in searches, and I've never reached out to this profile, but anytime I click into the profile, it says it doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]Nope mine doesn't show it either.

There is no algorithm. This isn't Match dot com. It is individuals clicking on "Favorite button", or sending messages.

Regarding your experience, it is fairly easy to explain. There are a limited number of 8,9,10's, and they already messaged you.

[QUOTE=VictorSmitham;7017567]Is anyone noticing something weird about the seeking algorithm? I stupidly signed up for a 90 day membership and I'm being shown all old, busted up fat chicks. Even though I have been matching with only 8's, 9's, and 10's. I'm not sure what is going on but I'm kind of irritated that I spent so much and all of a sudden I'm not getting any matches or messages. When I signed up for 30 days, my inbox gets 3 - 5 messages per day and 20+ interested SBs. Anyone else noticing this bullshit?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BuckNaked84;7017576]There is no algorithm. This isn't Match dot com. It is individuals clicking on "Favorite button", or sending messages.

Regarding your experience, it is fairly easy to explain. There are a limited number of 8,9,10's, and they already messaged you.[/QUOTE]Nah, there has to be something. When I come on here and click on the links, there are beautiful girls that have never once popped up on my feed.

Been on since 2020. There is no algorithm. Trust me. Maybe others can confirm.

P.S., IT guy. I would have noticed by now.

[QUOTE=VictorSmitham;7017593]Nah, there has to be something. When I come on here and click on the links, there are beautiful girls that have never once popped up on my feed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BuckNaked84;7017639]Been on since 2020. There is no algorithm. Trust me. Maybe others can confirm.

P.S., IT guy. I would have noticed by now.[/QUOTE]These bugs are relatively new. The checkboxes at the top are sometimes'AND (normal), and sometimes OR (bug). And, some Verified Profiles only show it you check that box (bug).

I reported the bugs, but clearly not an "Algorithm". I don't think Seeking developers could create an Algorithm. They can't even code a simple Select.

[QUOTE=BuckNaked84;7017654]These bugs are relatively new. The checkboxes at the top are sometimes'AND (normal), and sometimes OR (bug). And, some Verified Profiles only show it you check that box (bug).

I reported the bugs, but clearly not an "Algorithm". I don't think Seeking developers could create an Algorithm. They can't even code a simple Select.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. Maybe giving it a few days between logging on will give me some more favorable results and more views.

[QUOTE=JonFisher;6735977][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2e8a9e17-0669-4514-a0a0-2f0899e00865[/URL]

Nice girl DTF easy to get. Sure this is not her first rodeo. Doesn't have transport. . we did not vibe, insists on cover.[/QUOTE]Has anyone met this girl recently? - last few weeks in August?

[QUOTE=BuckNaked84;7017576]There is no algorithm. This isn't Match dot com. It is individuals clicking on "Favorite button", or sending messages.

Regarding your experience, it is fairly easy to explain. There are a limited number of 8,9,10's, and they already messaged you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VictorSmitham;7017567]Is anyone noticing something weird about the seeking algorithm? I stupidly signed up for a 90 day membership and I'm being shown all old, busted up fat chicks. Even though I have been matching with only 8's, 9's, and 10's. I'm not sure what is going on but I'm kind of irritated that I spent so much and all of a sudden I'm not getting any matches or messages. When I signed up for 30 days, my inbox gets 3 - 5 messages per day and 20+ interested SBs. Anyone else noticing this bullshit?[/QUOTE]What are you referring to when you say "matching with"? As far as I have ever seen, you pick the search filters and SA just shows you profiles that match those filters. The results of your filters are displayed in the order you chose (ie: newest, distance, or recent activity). A girl searching does the same and you cannot hide your profile from showing up for any one particular group. If you could do that, I would hide my profile from anyone outside of my search area so I would stop getting messages and favorites by all the scammers. There is no filter for how hot the girl is and SA is not sending out a list of your "matches" as Buck mentioned.

[QUOTE=NovaNova;7017808]What are you referring to when you say "matching with"? As far as I have ever seen, you pick the search filters and SA just shows you profiles that match those filters. The results of your filters are displayed in the order you chose (ie: newest, distance, or recent activity). A girl searching does the same and you cannot hide your profile from showing up for any one particular group. If you could do that, I would hide my profile from anyone outside of my search area so I would stop getting messages and favorites by all the scammers. There is no filter for how hot the girl is and SA is not sending out a list of your "matches" as Buck mentioned.[/QUOTE]Not completely correct. You can hide your profile from search, from *all* girls. They can only see your profile if you go to theirs.