Is seems to me that about 80 percent of the college age ladies I meet on SA is open to BBFS and CIP, I was wondering if other have similar results.
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Is seems to me that about 80 percent of the college age ladies I meet on SA is open to BBFS and CIP, I was wondering if other have similar results.
[QUOTE=Pal5600;3473615]Is seems to me that about 80 percent of the college age ladies I meet on SA is open to BBFS and CIP, I was wondering if other have similar results.[/QUOTE]I date older gals but a majority of them have been open to bare back as well. Some right off the bat and others once they get to know me better.
[QUOTE=Pal5600;3473615]Is seems to me that about 80 percent of the college age ladies I meet on SA is open to BBFS and CIP, I was wondering if other have similar results.[/QUOTE]My average has been closer to 100%.
[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;3473769]My average has been closer to 100%.[/QUOTE]Yeah most don't worry about it. There are some who are responsible and don't want to end up with a baby or disease. They are fucking way more guys for free than sd's. So your chance of catching something from them or becoming a baby daddy for the next 18 years is greater also.
[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3469445]I like to ask girls I contact what their experience is in having arrangements. I have no real proof for my translator and I'd like to hear other's opinion.
When a girl says. This is what I hear:
I just joined the site and I've never met anyone. She's new, likely never met anyone.
I've had an online arrangement. I've met and banged a number of guys, can count them on one hand.
I've had one long term arrangement. I've met and banged a fair number of guys, maybe a dozen maybe more.
I've had a number of short arrangements. I've lost count how many guys I've met, might as well be a pro.
Any thoughts on my math?[/QUOTE]The actual math who knows.
These girls if new love to talk and will gladly tell how many they actually have met and fucked. They also love to tell about their kinkest encounter. I've heard stories from 3 ways to gangbangs and these guys get it for free LOL. I've found the utr and pros on the site are more closed mouth. Ikf they are running a rotation they are pros just not posting in any escort classifieds.
[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;3473769]My average has been closer to 100%.[/QUOTE]Not quite 100 for me, but close.
[QUOTE=Dsprdo;3473846]Not quite 100 for me, but close.[/QUOTE]Currently BBFS with a college student after things got a bit hot one night and we skipped the condom. Been BB ever since. Others before that, I hadn't asked and it didn't come up so on went the condom.
Almost 100 for me. The only exceptions have been girls that were much closer to UTR's than true SBs.
[QUOTE=Dsprdo;3473846]Not quite 100 for me, but close.[/QUOTE]
Baltimore / DC area SA member. And I totally agree with you on this one.
[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3469445]I like to ask girls I contact what their experience is in having arrangements. I have no real proof for my translator and I'd like to hear other's opinion.
When a girl says. This is what I hear:
I just joined the site and I've never met anyone. She's new, likely never met anyone.
I've had an online arrangement. I've met and banged a number of guys, can count them on one hand.
I've had one long term arrangement. I've met and banged a fair number of guys, maybe a dozen maybe more.
I've had a number of short arrangements. I've lost count how many guys I've met, might as well be a pro.
Any thoughts on my math?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3474006]Almost 100 for me. The only exceptions have been girls that were much closer to UTR's than true SBs.[/QUOTE]I've met about 15 since December and 95% want it raw.
Last girl I was with wanted me to bring a condom and I did, but during heavy make out she asked if I had condom and I said yes and she then said I want to try you first without a condom. Spent so many years with pros I got so use to girls always wanting rubbers that I got use to it and I was shocked with sa girls wanting it raw. Yes sa girls are mostly college girls 18 to 24 and new that just want sex and get paid with no bf commitment. The money is way higher, but the quality is insane!
Hi guys,
Anyone have any interaction with Ms. Worthy from the Richmond page. We've been talking and she seems legit but is currently located in Ocean View down in Norfolk. Before I drive down there for a M&G I just wondered if anyone has had any experience with her. You can private message me if you don't want to share in public.
Thanks!
Starkey.
[QUOTE=Starkey2008;3479731]Hi guys,
Anyone have any interaction with Ms. Worthy from the Richmond page. We've been talking and she seems legit but is currently located in Ocean View down in Norfolk. Before I drive down there for a M&G I just wondered if anyone has had any experience with her. You can private message me if you don't want to share in public.
Thanks!
Starkey.[/QUOTE]Yes, I've had some conversation with her. Found her FB from her phone number, so pics are legit. Seemed to have a bit of GPS with me. I was in Richmond for a week, trying to schedule something around my work time and she got really snippy with me, too. Her time is valuable, she doesn't like people "making demands", she'll contact me when she has time, etc. I was never demanding with her; all I wanted to know was what her schedule was so we could see if a m&g could be scheduled. Attitude taken as a whole, I quit contacting her.
On a general note, I will be in RVA for 3 more weeks over the next couple of months. Spend a lot of time seeking out Richmond potentials on SA. Got one to the hotel, who then told me she was too tired to stay. But expected 100 for hanging out and kissing / letting me see her tits as she left. Several others flaked on me, or wouldn't / couldn't commit due to scheduling issues. I understand the scheduling problems, but for the two that no-showed, there is no excuse for that. So my next week is coming up, and so far, nothing scheduled.
Anyone have a good value for time / money spent SB or UTR they'd be willing to share with a poor relative from the ass-end of the state, LOL? (Abingdon area) I'd return the favor, but I bet most of you guys are too smart to travel to our godforsaken area expecting to get laid. Never thought it'd be so tough to get laid in such a big city!
RR.
My experience has been a large number will go for it. The more amateur the more likely. This does not mean you should assume they are clean, safe, or on birth control. Don't be stupid. Not saying you can't enjoy bareback, but do so once you know and trust the person and even then be prepared and get tested frequently. Chlamydia is rampant and it is asymptomatic in some. Herpes is even more rampant and the girl may not know or realize she has it. And if you don't feel like you can talk to her about birth control or trust her response, then you probably shouldn't be willing to put your dick in her.
Well I made 4 dates. 2 of them blew me off- and not in a good way. Seriously what's the deal with all the flaking? I mean 50% flake rate- really? Can you senior sugar experts find out from your regular sugar babies why women flake so often on this site? One was 26 and she confirmed the day of if we we're still on- and then the infamous no show, radio silence, and profile gone or blocked. The other was 50 and no showed despite texting me a few days ago saying she was looking forward to it. Her profile vanished a few days prior to our meetup but we were texting setting up plans. Once again when I texted her where was she I got radio silence. Finally, others are on the site however they don't login regularly & check their emails. I can understand if they have a regular but seriously why are they even on there then? Are they inundated with a ton of messages? Are there a bunch of fake profiles just pretending to be available sugar babies? Ugh so frustrating! I just don't get it.
[QUOTE=Kellster;3481481]Well I made 4 dates. 2 of them blew me off- and not in a good way. Seriously what's the deal with all the flaking? I mean 50% flake rate- really? Can you senior sugar experts find out from your regular sugar babies why women flake so often on this site? One was 26 and she confirmed the day of if we we're still on- and then the infamous no show, radio silence, and profile gone or blocked. The other was 50 and no showed despite texting me a few days ago saying she was looking forward to it. Her profile vanished a few days prior to our meetup but we were texting setting up plans. Once again when I texted her where was she I got radio silence. Finally, others are on the site however they don't login regularly & check their emails. I can understand if they have a regular but seriously why are they even on there then? Are they inundated with a ton of messages? Are there a bunch of fake profiles just pretending to be available sugar babies? Ugh so frustrating! I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]LOL first of they are women. Secondly for most its not a livelihood so they get to you when its convenient for them. Most if truly interested will keep in touch and do a m / g in a timely manner. There are game players on both sides, some just chicken out, some get better offers and some do it just because they can so no one reason they flake. Like you said it happens from all age brackets. Its just part of the sb / sd game.
I don't think there is any one answer, but I think there are some common trends I've noticed.
I personally like the reluctant SBs. They are interesting in older successful men, but don't want to think of themselves as "prostitutes". They aren't as hardened or business like as most escorts or UTR's. They genuinely enjoy the sexual experience, want to be treated like a girl friend and often are willing to stay the night.
Unfortunately, this type of girl also has many doubts about what they are doing and can easily get cold feet. Some of the "straight forward" messages by guys offering explicit P4 P make them question themselves even more.
I've had several girls flake last minute or go silent prior to meeting. I've also had crazy multiple round all nighters with cheerleaders, athletes, Hooters girls, models, fitness contestants, etc.
With great risk comes great rewards!
[QUOTE=Kellster;3481481]Well I made 4 dates. 2 of them blew me off- and not in a good way. Seriously what's the deal with all the flaking? I mean 50% flake rate- really? Can you senior sugar experts find out from your regular sugar babies why women flake so often on this site? One was 26 and she confirmed the day of if we we're still on- and then the infamous no show, radio silence, and profile gone or blocked. The other was 50 and no showed despite texting me a few days ago saying she was looking forward to it. Her profile vanished a few days prior to our meetup but we were texting setting up plans. Once again when I texted her where was she I got radio silence. Finally, others are on the site however they don't login regularly & check their emails. I can understand if they have a regular but seriously why are they even on there then? Are they inundated with a ton of messages? Are there a bunch of fake profiles just pretending to be available sugar babies? Ugh so frustrating! I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]
I will PM you some info when I'm back in my office!
Starkey.
[QUOTE=Rrguy;3479815]Yes, I've had some conversation with her. Found her FB from her phone number, so pics are legit. Seemed to have a bit of GPS with me. I was in Richmond for a week, trying to schedule something around my work time and she got really snippy with me, too. Her time is valuable, she doesn't like people "making demands", she'll contact me when she has time, etc. I was never demanding with her; all I wanted to know was what her schedule was so we could see if a m&g could be scheduled. Attitude taken as a whole, I quit contacting her.
On a general note, I will be in RVA for 3 more weeks over the next couple of months. Spend a lot of time seeking out Richmond potentials on SA. Got one to the hotel, who then told me she was too tired to stay. But expected 100 for hanging out and kissing / letting me see her tits as she left. Several others flaked on me, or wouldn't / couldn't commit due to scheduling issues. I understand the scheduling problems, but for the two that no-showed, there is no excuse for that. So my next week is coming up, and so far, nothing scheduled.
Anyone have a good value for time / money spent SB or UTR they'd be willing to share with a poor relative from the ass-end of the state, LOL? (Abingdon area) I'd return the favor, but I bet most of you guys are too smart to travel to our godforsaken area expecting to get laid. Never thought it'd be so tough to get laid in such a big city!
RR.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3481732]I don't think there is any one answer, but I think there are some common trends I've noticed.
I personally like the reluctant SBs. They are interesting in older successful men, but don't want to think of themselves as "prostitutes". They aren't as hardened or business like as most escorts or UTR's. They genuinely enjoy the sexual experience, want to be treated like a girl friend and often are willing to stay the night.
Unfortunately, this type of girl also has many doubts about what they are doing and can easily get cold feet. Some of the "straight forward" messages by guys offering explicit P4 P make them question themselves even more.
I've had several girls flake last minute or go silent prior to meeting. I've also had crazy multiple round all nighters with cheerleaders, athletes, Hooters girls, models, fitness contestants, etc.
With great risk comes great rewards![/QUOTE]I know patience is a virtue, especially on this dating site, but so far it's really frustrating. I mean I never send lewd messages and treat every meet and greet & email, for that matter, like a [URL]Match.com[/URL] date. We meet for an appetizer / coffee with no expectations and see if we hit it off. Even if she's not in the mood that night that's fine. I thought for sure it was the younger babies that pulled that crap. Never expected an older one to do it, or for that matter, any age chick after they confirm that we're on to do that. Why the hell did they confirm we were meeting then? Ugh! I'll keep at it since it's probably a numbers game, but I have to admit I'm reluctant to travel downtown in my local area, at least often, or drive too far for meet and greets because the flake factor is just so high and I don't like wasting my time with such a poor show up %.
I know, it's a real pet peeve of mine too. I now go in with the expectation of a 1/2 to 2/3 flake factor. Anyone doing this with a 10% or even 25% flake factor is a frigging genius. I've adjusted my approach somewhat recently to minimize it but then again it probably means I'm also missing some opportunities. I often filter on interest level. If a girl is lukewarm in conversation I simply let her go. If she says she wants to meet with me, I give her more attention. Sure, I don't always get the attention of the really popular girls (although it happens from time to time) but then again I waste a lot less time and the ones that bite are really into it. In my experience attitude trumps everything else in the FC.
As for why they do it, I think there's a bunch of reasons. Mostly, they like to have that power over you. They made you waste your time and they love they can blow you off. Keep in mind, a text saying. I can't tonight but maybe some other time. Takes all of 3 seconds. They don't do it cause they like the thought of you waiting for them like a schmuck, that they made a grown man leave whatever he was doing and wait for their worthless ass. It gives them a sense of power.
[QUOTE=Kellster;3482133]I know patience is a virtue, especially on this dating site, but so far it's really frustrating. I mean I never send lewd messages and treat every meet and greet & email, for that matter, like a [URL]Match.com[/URL] date. We meet for an appetizer / coffee with no expectations and see if we hit it off. Even if she's not in the mood that night that's fine. I thought for sure it was the younger babies that pulled that crap. Never expected an older one to do it, or for that matter, any age chick after they confirm that we're on to do that. Why the hell did they confirm we were meeting then? Ugh! I'll keep at it since it's probably a numbers game, but I have to admit I'm reluctant to travel downtown in my local area, at least often, or drive too far for meet and greets because the flake factor is just so high and I don't like wasting my time with such a poor show up %.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3482308]I know, it's a real pet peeve of mine too. I now go in with the expectation of a 1/2 to 2/3 flake factor. Anyone doing this with a 10% or even 25% flake factor is a frigging genius. I've adjusted my approach somewhat recently to minimize it but then again it probably means I'm also missing some opportunities. I often filter on interest level. If a girl is lukewarm in conversation I simply let her go. If she says she wants to meet with me, I give her more attention. Sure, I don't always get the attention of the really popular girls (although it happens from time to time) but then again I waste a lot less time and the ones that bite are really into it. In my experience attitude trumps everything else in the FC.
As for why they do it, I think there's a bunch of reasons. Mostly, they like to have that power over you. They made you waste your time and they love they can blow you off. Keep in mind, a text saying. I can't tonight but maybe some other time. Takes all of 3 seconds. They don't do it cause they like the thought of you waiting for them like a schmuck, that they made a grown man leave whatever he was doing and wait for their worthless ass. It gives them a sense of power.[/QUOTE]I've probably had around a 75% flake rate because I go after the younger twenties SB's. I almost expect flaking with these Millennials. Their word means nothing. I think alot of women don't think we are going to actually show up, so they use it as a shit test to see if we are really serious about meeting. I've had a number of girls flake on me once or twice, but then when they see I am serious and don't get mad at them, they show up for the second or third time we agree to meet. I use the flakiness to my advantage. When they want a high allowance at the meet and greet, I say something like, "Well, you have flaked on me 2 times. I need to see that you are serious about not wasting my time before moving up to the full allowance. " I had a girl flake on me twice recently. When she finally did show up on the third proposed meet, I ended up fucking her for free.
I call or text within an hour or two of the meet to confirm they are coming. If they go silent, I don't bother to show up. My time is far more valuable than hers.
SDX.
[QUOTE=SugarDaddyX;3482928]I've probably had around a 75% flake rate because I go after the younger twenties SB's. I almost expect flaking with these Millennials. Their word means nothing. I think alot of women don't think we are going to actually show up, so they use it as a shit test to see if we are really serious about meeting. I've had a number of girls flake on me once or twice, but then when they see I am serious and don't get mad at them, they show up for the second or third time we agree to meet. I use the flakiness to my advantage. When they want a high allowance at the meet and greet, I say something like, "Well, you have flaked on me 2 times. I need to see that you are serious about not wasting my time before moving up to the full allowance. " I had a girl flake on me twice recently. When she finally did show up on the third proposed meet, I ended up fucking her for free.
I call or text within an hour or two of the meet to confirm they are coming. If they go silent, I don't bother to show up. My time is far more valuable than hers.
SDX.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's kind of my attitude. I'll go radio silent. I'd still meet them if they ever contacted me again, but they would need to initiate interest & have to meet near my place now. I'm not going out of my way anymore- that looks weak. I'm sure I wouldn't be feeling very generous I don't care how hot they look (aka I'd need to get a freebie to make up for getting flaked on). Hmnn.... calling or texting an hour or two before is a good idea. Maybe I'll use that tip. Anything to try and reduce the flake %.
I always text an hour before I leave and then 5-10 min before I leave. I explain to the girl that I can't leave until I get a return text. I've broken that rule on occasion and 99% of the time she flaked on me.
Good hunting!
Travelin.
[QUOTE=SugarDaddyX;3482928]I've probably had around a 75% flake rate because I go after the younger twenties SB's. I almost expect flaking with these Millennials. Their word means nothing. I think alot of women don't think we are going to actually show up, so they use it as a shit test to see if we are really serious about meeting. I've had a number of girls flake on me once or twice, but then when they see I am serious and don't get mad at them, they show up for the second or third time we agree to meet. I use the flakiness to my advantage. When they want a high allowance at the meet and greet, I say something like, "Well, you have flaked on me 2 times. I need to see that you are serious about not wasting my time before moving up to the full allowance. " I had a girl flake on me twice recently. When she finally did show up on the third proposed meet, I ended up fucking her for free.
I call or text within an hour or two of the meet to confirm they are coming. If they go silent, I don't bother to show up. My time is far more valuable than hers.
SDX.[/QUOTE]
I am just getting my SA game up and running. Mostly just chatting with the girls I find cute until I figure out the when, where, how much, etc details of what I really want + how to get it.
When I have no idea what to say, to keep things going I ask "So how's your search for a daddy going?" If they've got "I'm not an escort...looking for a friend!" plastered across their profile I try to temper it with "new friend" instead of daddy.
I get a LOT of feedback from this question. Interestingly a lot of them say not good. And some have complained of excessive flaking and fakes. One girl said everyone wants to chat but no one wants to actually meet up. Maybe not for the price she is demanding I guess.
I've messaged hundreds of girls on SA and I think I met about 15 of them since December. The flake rate is extremely high and it has gotten worse. First a lot of these girls make it easy to find them on Facebook and verify if they're real. If I verify her on FB I don't mention to her, hey I found you on Facebook ". I think some guys tell them and that scares them away and they ghost after being discovered.
I offer big money to them at first, I put a lot of meat on that hook to get them to meet and try an arrangement. I have fucked maybe 10 or 12 and some of them several times, but they still vanish. I have vanished on some because I'm looking for that next better pussy and I'm sure with them, they're looking for that richer better looking guy.
I wish the membership wasn't so expensive on that website and the cost of hotels really adds up with the SB hobby. It's fun and I have fucked some really good pussy I would never find with a provider.
One question, one comment.
What do you mean by "I offer big money to them at first"? For the meet and greet, for a per meet allowance, for a monthly allowance and how big is "big"?
I agree with finding them on Facebook scaring them away. People also need to be careful that if you viewed them on Facebook, you will show up in their "people you may know" list under friend requests. You will need to block their profile to prevent this after you have viewed them.
[QUOTE=JimRob;3484619]I've messaged hundreds of girls on SA and I think I met about 15 of them since December. The flake rate is extremely high and it has gotten worse. First a lot of these girls make it easy to find them on Facebook and verify if they're real. If I verify her on FB I don't mention to her, hey I found you on Facebook ". I think some guys tell them and that scares them away and they ghost after being discovered.
I offer big money to them at first, I put a lot of meat on that hook to get them to meet and try an arrangement. I have fucked maybe 10 or 12 and some of them several times, but they still vanish. I have vanished on some because I'm looking for that next better pussy and I'm sure with them, they're looking for that richer better looking guy.
I wish the membership wasn't so expensive on that website and the cost of hotels really adds up with the SB hobby. It's fun and I have fucked some really good pussy I would never find with a provider.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NeedyUnchin;3484436]I am just getting my SA game up and running. Mostly just chatting with the girls I find cute until I figure out the when, where, how much, etc details of what I really want + how to get it.
When I have no idea what to say, to keep things going I ask "So how's your search for a daddy going?" If they've got "I'm not an escort...looking for a friend!" plastered across their profile I try to temper it with "new friend" instead of daddy.
I get a LOT of feedback from this question. Interestingly a lot of them say not good. And some have complained of excessive flaking and fakes. One girl said everyone wants to chat but no one wants to actually meet up. Maybe not for the price she is demanding I guess.[/QUOTE]My best luck comes from ones that agree to meet that day or the next from when I first message them. Although yesterday I messaged one at lunch and she agreed to meet me at Coldstone at 8 pm that night. I drove 30 miles and she cancelled at 753 pm as I was just pulling in.
Got home by 845 and found another new one online and meet her for lunch today. Meeting up again one night next week for private time. So not feeling so bad about the ice cream no show gal now.
All right, so do you guys just ignore these girls' profiles? I mean are there girls really being taken on yacht rides and trips to the Bahamas?
That is WAYYY beyond what I'm looking for / willing to give. Basically just looking for a few cute sexy FWBs to have a little fun with. I mean if we need to grab coffee to confirm I'm not a creep I get it, but wining and dining and night life seems a bit much. I am pretty comfortable financially but I don't live a flashy extravagant life.
There are so many that paint this picture of Prince Charming riding in on a horse and dazzling them with exciting adventures. Is this for real or bullshit?
Then there are the girls "looking for a platonic relationship. " Wait wut? Is this a shit test of some sort? Why are they on the site?
Also, I am not sure if I should be trying to charm them with my text banter (probably an uphill battle because it's just not a strength of mine) or just a little small talk then get right to the point with a formal intro and invite to meet.
And these top tier girls, do you just handle them the same? They come across like they're hunting for Moby Dick with their expectations.
Sorry for the rant. Feeling a little confused and overwhelmed.
I have more questions but I will continue to study the forum and wait a while.
P.S. I really appreciate this forum. I've been reading forward from page 500. Sometimes though, there are so many details and insights I lose the big picture.
[QUOTE=NeedyUnchin;3486343]All right, so do you guys just ignore these girls' profiles? I mean are there girls really being taken on yacht rides and trips to the Bahamas?
That is WAYYY beyond what I'm looking for / willing to give. Basically just looking for a few cute sexy FWBs to have a little fun with. I mean if we need to grab coffee to confirm I'm not a creep I get it, but wining and dining and night life seems a bit much. I am pretty comfortable financially but I don't live a flashy extravagant life.
There are so many that paint this picture of Prince Charming riding in on a horse and dazzling them with exciting adventures. Is this for real or bullshit?
Then there are the girls "looking for a platonic relationship. " Wait wut? Is this a shit test of some sort? Why are they on the site?
Also, I am not sure if I should be trying to charm them with my text banter (probably an uphill battle because it's just not a strength of mine) or just a little small talk then get right to the point with a formal intro and invite to meet.
And these top tier girls, do you just handle them the same? They come across like they're hunting for Moby Dick with their expectations.
Sorry for the rant. Feeling a little confused and overwhelmed.
I have more questions but I will continue to study the forum and wait a while.
P.S. I really appreciate this forum. I've been reading forward from page 500. Sometimes though, there are so many details and insights I lose the big picture.[/QUOTE]Yes some of these girls are crazy waiting for that rich brad Pitt guy to show up and take them away on a private jet. Those girls are not serious and wasting time on the website. Then the girls that want to be wined and dined, hello I'm married, I don't.
Have time or want to date, that's called a girlfriend.
Then the girls that want platonic only relationship, I already pay my wife for that, I'm not paying another woman not to fuck.
My strategy is this, and I'm not sure I shoud say.
[QUOTE=NeedyUnchin;3486343]All right, so do you guys just ignore these girls' profiles? I mean are there girls really being taken on yacht rides and trips to the Bahamas?
That is WAYYY beyond what I'm looking for / willing to give. Basically just looking for a few cute sexy FWBs to have a little fun with. I mean if we need to grab coffee to confirm I'm not a creep I get it, but wining and dining and night life seems a bit much. I am pretty comfortable financially but I don't live a flashy extravagant life.
There are so many that paint this picture of Prince Charming riding in on a horse and dazzling them with exciting adventures. Is this for real or bullshit?
Then there are the girls "looking for a platonic relationship. " Wait wut? Is this a shit test of some sort? Why are they on the site?
Also, I am not sure if I should be trying to charm them with my text banter (probably an uphill battle because it's just not a strength of mine) or just a little small talk then get right to the point with a formal intro and invite to meet.
And these top tier girls, do you just handle them the same? They come across like they're hunting for Moby Dick with their expectations.
Sorry for the rant. Feeling a little confused and overwhelmed.
I have more questions but I will continue to study the forum and wait a while.
P.S. I really appreciate this forum. I've been reading forward from page 500. Sometimes though, there are so many details and insights I lose the big picture.[/QUOTE]This isn't rocket science and why guys want to make it so complicated I never understand. First with so many girls to choose from why do girls that you feel are out of your reach bother you? Move on to what's available for you. Now some girls on sa expect something more than a fuck. Some like to be wined and dined which shouldn't be a problem. Some guys like doing that. Then there is the pros and utr girls who don't need that are staight to business. What I'm trying to convey is that there is something for everyones budget so why let the other stuff bother you. Its a mutual beneficial arrangement and everyone has different wants and needs. What really screws things up is definition of a sb. No one can agree on that definition. A good personality goes along way in this so if don't have a gift of gab then some girls not looking for a straight transaction is going to be lost to ya. A true sb is going to be a big step up from whatever level of mongering your used to. They require time and effort and only you can decide what your wanting to put in it. Its not complicated so don't make it that way.
My previous college bunny was amazing but there was hot bench strength. This new one is doubly amazing. My favorite thing is when she rims my ass and strokes me as she giggles. But her deep-throating and writhing and moaning while sitting on my cock are not talents to be ignored.
[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;3487374]My previous college bunny was amazing but there was hot bench strength. This new one is doubly amazing. My favorite thing is when she rims my ass and strokes me as she giggles. But her deep-throating and writhing and moaning while sitting on my cock are not talents to be ignored.[/QUOTE]You just got to love these HYBs! Who's idea was the mask?
Keep up the good work.
Scott.
[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;3487374]My previous college bunny was amazing but there was hot bench strength. This new one is doubly amazing. My favorite thing is when she rims my ass and strokes me as she giggles. But her deep-throating and writhing and moaning while sitting on my cock are not talents to be ignored.[/QUOTE]You are a lucky dude, she sounds / looks hot even w / a mask.
[QUOTE=FScott;3487433]You just got to love these HYBs! Who's idea was the mask?
Keep up the good work.
Scott.[/QUOTE]Her idea. My mask. She didn't mind pics, just didn't want it to be totally obvious. A mask provides plausible deniability.
[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;3487374]My previous college bunny was amazing but there was hot bench strength. This new one is doubly amazing. My favorite thing is when she rims my ass and strokes me as she giggles. But her deep-throating and writhing and moaning while sitting on my cock are not talents to be ignored.[/QUOTE]Looks like Batgirl once again saves the day by quelling an uprising in Gotham City haha! She looks awesome.
[QUOTE=Kellster;3489401]Looks like Batgirl once again saves the day by quelling an uprising in Gotham City haha! She looks awesome.[/QUOTE].LMFAO! Here's a few more of "batgirl quelling the uprising." I should hire you to write my posts.
[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;3490295].LMFAO! Here's a few more of "batgirl quelling the uprising." I should hire you to write my posts.[/QUOTE]You guys may call her the bat girl, but she has amazing cat eyes.
Cheers.
TM.
[QUOTE=TexasMonger;3490317]You guys may call her the bat girl, but she has amazing cat eyes.
Cheers.
TM.[/QUOTE]Bat Girl. Cat Woman. It's all good.
[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;3490685]Bat Girl. Cat Woman. It's all good.[/QUOTE]Sure is. For us perverts, can we see more of her? Any video?
Cheers.
TM.
Sugar world is frustrating. Rewarding but lot of frustration. You definitely have to have the patience. I have tried to walk away a few times because of some of the frustrations especially when you have a date planned, you message to confirm, place to meet and next thing you know, account deactivated. This one was 44, not the 21 year olds, that is some what expected. She was hot too! Not sure why they do it, get cold feet, found someone they like better, iDK, like I said frustrating, but hard to walk away, it's addicting. Been in the bowl since 2015, have had some success with about 30 some to the FC, but boy it is a numbers game! Been a lot of flakes in there too, can't say I haven't flaked myself a time or too Love this thread though.
, lot of great tips and insights! Thanks for all the great posts and advice!
Actually wondering about a possible setup I could have planned for a threesome and whether I am being setup. Was in Richmond yesterday, Sunday and out of the blue one I had been messaging texts me and wants to know what I am dong tonight. I just happened to be there, so we agree to meet but says she is more comfortable with her friend being there too for the first time, says they do arrangements together some. She sends pics and both are quite hot so I agree to meet at a hotel. Here's the part that concerns me, says they want cash upfront. I didn't have any cash on me and no ATMs took my debit card, so we agreed to meet Tuesday, but I am concerned about handing cash up front, then it's like see ya, though I really like to have a threesome with these two. Thoughts.
[QUOTE=JackCat58;3491331]Sugar world is frustrating. Rewarding but lot of frustration. You definitely have to have the patience. I have tried to walk away a few times because of some of the frustrations especially when you have a date planned, you message to confirm, place to meet and next thing you know, account deactivated. This one was 44, not the 21 year olds, that is some what expected. She was hot too! Not sure why they do it, get cold feet, found someone they like better, iDK, like I said frustrating, but hard to walk away, it's addicting. Been in the bowl since 2015, have had some success with about 30 some to the FC, but boy it is a numbers game! Been a lot of flakes in there too, can't say I haven't flaked myself a time or too Love this thread though.
, lot of great tips and insights! Thanks for all the great posts and advice!
Actually wondering about a possible setup I could have planned for a threesome and whether I am being setup. Was in Richmond yesterday, Sunday and out of the blue one I had been messaging texts me and wants to know what I am dong tonight. I just happened to be there, so we agree to meet but says she is more comfortable with her friend being there too for the first time, says they do arrangements together some. She sends pics and both are quite hot so I agree to meet at a hotel. Here's the part that concerns me, says they want cash upfront. I didn't have any cash on me and no ATMs took my debit card, so we agreed to meet Tuesday, but I am concerned about handing cash up front, then it's like see ya, though I really like to have a threesome with these two. Thoughts.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a cash and dash. I would insist on a M&G first with the primary contact. As stated here many times before, no sugar until the panties hit the floor.