Rants and Stupid shit in Hartford

[QUOTE=MaxThrust;7383439]There's an easy answer to that legalize it.

Then both parties are kept safe from lowlifes and thieves, as there's no longer an impediment (legal reprisal) for reporting something.

Sadly, we'll never see it (in this country anyway) as long as those in power continue to spin the "All sex workers are trafficked" narrative they're so enamored with.

Ok, I'm off my soap box.[/QUOTE]Personally, I'd much rather see it decriminalized than legalized. I don't want the government getting involved, but they always want their piece.

Texting apps, why are they frowned upon for clients? I would say when I used the apps to message providers, I have maybe a 60-40 success rate. I see in a lot of profiles they won't take messages from texting apps. What's the big deal? From the clients side, its for safety. I wouldn't want a provider tracking me down, or my socials for whatever reason. Even worse, finding out our place of business. Same goes for the providers, but its hypocritical as a lot of them use them too. I was scrolling and saw a provider mention them. I figured I reached out to see her point of view. She brought up Ted Bundy, and blocked me LOL.

[QUOTE=JoeRando;7398115]Texting apps, why are they frowned upon for clients? I would say when I used the apps to message providers, I have maybe a 60-40 success rate. I see in a lot of profiles they won't take messages from texting apps. What's the big deal? From the clients side, its for safety. I wouldn't want a provider tracking me down, or my socials for whatever reason. Even worse, finding out our place of business. Same goes for the providers, but its hypocritical as a lot of them use them too. I was scrolling and saw a provider mention them. I figured I reached out to see her point of view. She brought up Ted Bundy, and blocked me LOL.[/QUOTE]First, the majority of girls out there don't know how to verify if a number is real or a text app. I've seen girls that put in their ads no text app and had no issue with seeing them.

There are a multitude of reasons why girls would have that as a restriction. For their safety they want a real number so they could track if something happens. Some have blacklisted guys or ignored them but they get a new number and show up anyway. Also, a significant amount of received texts are just people playing games. One might think that if a prospective client texts them that they'll actually show up. I would say well over 50% of texts received are by people with no intention of showing up. I've heard as high as 80-90%. Countless times I've had girls say they aren't avail till an hr or so later then 15 min later ask if I could come right then due to a no show. Too many girls and guys playing games which makes the whole thing frustrating.

If they say no text apps, go ahead and hit them up anyway or pass over them.

[QUOTE=DonnnyBravo;7398202]Countless times I've had girls say they aren't avail till an hr or so later then 15 min later ask if I could come right then due to a no show. Too many girls and guys playing games which makes the whole thing frustrating.
[/QUOTE]Indeed. I messaged a girl last weekend and asked if she was available. She said yes. Asked for details, she replied 15 minutes later. Then 20 minutes later. I moved on. She texts me again like 5 hours later, LOL. I told her she should work on her response time. Money she's missing. She replied saying she gets bombarded by messages or whatever. I told her that's all she had to say. She sent me a link to her calendar booking app. Haven't seen her yet.

Four former USA Presidents are caught in a horrible tornado that hits a state funeral they're all attending in Kansas.

Suddenly, all of them are blown off to Oz.

They finally make it to the Emerald City and come before the Great and Powerful Oz.

"What brings you before the great Wizard of Oz?

Jimmy Carter steps forward timidly: "I've come for some courage. "

"No problem!" says the Wizard. DONE!

"Who is next?

Ronald Reagan steps forward, "Well. I.I think I need a heart. "

"DONE," says the Wizard.

"Who comes next before the great and powerful Oz?

Up steps George W. Bush, who says, "I'm told by the American people that I need a brain. "

"Not a problem!" says the Wizard. "Consider it DONE. "

There is a great silence in the hall.

Bill Clinton is just standing there, looking around, but doesn't say a word.

Visibly irritated, the Wizard finally asks, "Well, what brings you to the great OZ!

"Ummm," he says, "is Dorothy around?

Did anyone get thanked for their cervix with a provider discount today?

Eddie wanted desperately to have sex with the hot girl at work, but she had a boyfriend.

So one day Eddie became so desperate that he went to her and said, "I'll give you $100 if you have sex with me".

The girl looked at him in shock and said. "Hell no!

He said it'll be real quick I'll throw the money on the floor, you bend over and get it and I'll be finished by the time you've picked it up!

She thought for a moment and told him that she would have to talk to her boyfriend. So she called him and explained the situation. Her boyfriend says, "Ask him for $200, pick up the money really fast and he won't be able to get his pants down!" She agreed and accepts the proposal.

Thirty minutes go by and the boyfriend is still waiting for his girlfriend's call. Finally after 45 minutes, the boyfriend calls and asks, What the f_ happened?!

Still breathing hard, she managed to reply, "That bastard had all quarters!

True meaning of Stg provider descriptions. Feel free to add your own!! Came across this and made me laugh!!

Curvy: Fat.

Thick: Fat.

Juicy: Fat.

MILF: Old and Fat.

Petite: Short and Fat.

Fun sized: Usually short, always Fat.

BBW: Impossibly Fat.

Snow Bunny: White.

Mixed: Black.

Exotic: Black.

From The Islands: Black.

Asian: Actually Asian, occasionally Black.

No AA: My pimp is Black.

Independent: My pimp will stay out of sight during your visit.

I'm Mobile: My pimp will drive me to your place and case the joint during our session.

Open Minded: 3 hole friendly.

Squirter: I'll piss on you.

Party Friendly: Junkie.

Trucker Friendly: I will suck your dick behind a Wendy's dumpster.

Deposit Required: Scam artist.

Verification Required: Scam artist and / or black mailer.

Upscale: Same lousy service, but higher price.

Discreet: 15 guys visit me here everyday and don't want the hotel manager kicking me out.

My Photos are Real: My photos are 5 years old and 50 lbs ago.

Text Only: I spent money on drugs instead of my phone bill and now I'm stuck using a free text app over my slum motel's Wi-Fi.

No Cops: I don't understand how the law works.

I Love White Guys: Overpay me.

Mature Men Only: Overpay me and don't fu*ck me so hard.

No Time Wasters: I will waste your time.

[QUOTE=AssMan4412;7442484]True meaning of Stg provider descriptions. Feel free to add your own!! Came across this and made me laugh!!

Curvy: Fat.

Thick: Fat.

Juicy: Fat.

MILF: Old and Fat.

Petite: Short and Fat.

Fun sized: Usually short, always Fat.

BBW: Impossibly Fat.

Snow Bunny: White.

Mixed: Black.

Exotic: Black.

From The Islands: Black.

Asian: Actually Asian, occasionally Black.

No AA: My pimp is Black.

Independent: My pimp will stay out of sight during your visit.

I'm Mobile: My pimp will drive me to your place and case the joint during our session.

Open Minded: 3 hole friendly.

Squirter: I'll piss on you.

Party Friendly: Junkie.

Trucker Friendly: I will suck your dick behind a Wendy's dumpster.

Deposit Required: Scam artist.

Verification Required: Scam artist and / or black mailer.

Upscale: Same lousy service, but higher price.

Discreet: 15 guys visit me here everyday and don't want the hotel manager kicking me out.

My Photos are Real: My photos are 5 years old and 50 lbs ago.

Text Only: I spent money on drugs instead of my phone bill and now I'm stuck using a free text app over my slum motel's Wi-Fi.

No Cops: I don't understand how the law works.

I Love White Guys: Overpay me.

Mature Men Only: Overpay me and don't fu*ck me so hard.

No Time Wasters: I will waste your time.[/QUOTE]** New Phone #: I've pissed off too many guys so I had to change my number.

[QUOTE=AssMan4412;7442484]True meaning of Stg provider descriptions. Feel free to add your own!! Came across this and made me laugh!!

Curvy: Fat.

Thick: Fat.

Juicy: Fat.

MILF: Old and Fat.

Petite: Short and Fat.

Fun sized: Usually short, always Fat.

BBW: Impossibly Fat.

Snow Bunny: White.

Mixed: Black.

Exotic: Black.

From The Islands: Black.

Asian: Actually Asian, occasionally Black.

No AA: My pimp is Black.

Independent: My pimp will stay out of sight during your visit.

I'm Mobile: My pimp will drive me to your place and case the joint during our session.

Open Minded: 3 hole friendly.

Squirter: I'll piss on you.

Party Friendly: Junkie.

Trucker Friendly: I will suck your dick behind a Wendy's dumpster.

Deposit Required: Scam artist.

Verification Required: Scam artist and / or black mailer.

Upscale: Same lousy service, but higher price.

Discreet: 15 guys visit me here everyday and don't want the hotel manager kicking me out.

My Photos are Real: My photos are 5 years old and 50 lbs ago.

Text Only: I spent money on drugs instead of my phone bill and now I'm stuck using a free text app over my slum motel's Wi-Fi.

No Cops: I don't understand how the law works.

I Love White Guys: Overpay me.

Mature Men Only: Overpay me and don't fu*ck me so hard.

No Time Wasters: I will waste your time.[/QUOTE]Text only (alt): my pimp handles the comms.

No BBFS: I don't want guys to know off the top. BBFS isn't included but I might be swayed with the right $.

No time wasters: Only I can waste your time.

Unrushed service: I set the a timer.

Location. Downtown: I'm a scammer. Tell me your town and I'll tell you I'm at a hotel down the street.

Back and better then ever: I'm fatter and still haven't been tested.

Party friendly: come be a junkie with me or come be my plug.

[QUOTE=DonnnyBravo;7442555]Text only (alt): my pimp handles the comms.

No BBFS: I don't want guys to know off the top. BBFS isn't included but I might be swayed with the right $.

No time wasters: Only I can waste your time.

Unrushed service: I set the a timer.

Location. Downtown: I'm a scammer. Tell me your town and I'll tell you I'm at a hotel down the street.

Back and better then ever: I'm fatter and still haven't been tested.

Party friendly: come be a junkie with me or come be my plug.[/QUOTE]Sad thing is that it's all true!

How does someone know if I am using a text app when I contact them?

[QUOTE=GordonFreeman;7443491]How does someone know if I am using a text app when I contact them?[/QUOTE]The good ones look like plain old phone texts. The not so good can't receive calls, so it's obvious it's an app. I don't know how all of them work, but some freebies might insert a tagline plugging themselves.

If you reached out to the DDD nut job in Cromwell, she thinks everyone is faking something! LOL

[QUOTE=GordonFreeman;7443491]How does someone know if I am using a text app when I contact them?[/QUOTE]I would say by the first 3 digits after the area code. Some look random.

May I ask why you ask?

Do you guys have better luck using a burner phone as opposed to texting apps? I myself use the "TextME" app, and probably get a response 2 out of 10 times. I've tried many different greetings, crickets. Not sure if I'll better luck with a burner which I'm trying to avoid. I know I could always hide the burner and whatnot but the app is so much convenient. I could just delete it or hide it until I'm ready to use. Plus less chance of anyone tracking my identity (no malice behind it). For whatever reason many providers frown upon apps, even though a lot of them also use them.

[QUOTE=DonnnyBravo;7442555]Text only (alt): my pimp handles the comms.

No BBFS: I don't want guys to know off the top. BBFS isn't included but I might be swayed with the right $.

No time wasters: Only I can waste your time.

Unrushed service: I set the a timer.

Location. Downtown: I'm a scammer. Tell me your town and I'll tell you I'm at a hotel down the street.

Back and better then ever: I'm fatter and still haven't been tested.

Party friendly: come be a junkie with me or come be my plug.[/QUOTE]Back and better than ever: I've just returned to the outside world after spending a couple of years having lesbian sex in Niantic, and I'm fatter than before after eating lots of potatoes every day.

[QUOTE=JoeRando;7443598]Do you guys have better luck using a burner phone as opposed to texting apps? I myself use the "TextME" app, and probably get a response 2 out of 10 times. I've tried many different greetings, crickets. Not sure if I'll better luck with a burner which I'm trying to avoid. I know I could always hide the burner and whatnot but the app is so much convenient. I could just delete it or hide it until I'm ready to use. Plus less chance of anyone tracking my identity (no malice behind it). For whatever reason many providers frown upon apps, even though a lot of them also use them.[/QUOTE]I use an app called "Burner". It texts and handles incoming and outgoing voice calls, as well as voice mail. You can choose the area code and general area, as well as have multiple numbers. It's not free.

I've been using it for almost 10 years, it's never been questioned.

[QUOTE=GordonFreeman;7443491]How does someone know if I am using a text app when I contact them?[/QUOTE]I think most girls just say that but don't know how to check. Some may use an iphone and think if the text msg isn't blue then must be an app and don't think of android phones. I've seen girls before that put that in their ad. One of them even showed me how they search, but somehow they still saw me. LOL.

Girls likely don't do this, but you can search the carrier and it will tell you. Real phones say Verizon, ATT, Tmobile, etc. The apps are all VOIP and don't use carriers, so the carrier name will not be any company you'd recognize. If you use an app that comes with a SIM, it will be contracted through a main carrier.

[QUOTE=AssMan4412;7442484]True meaning of Stg provider descriptions. Feel free to add your own!! Came across this and made me laugh!!

Curvy: Fat.

Thick: Fat.

Juicy: Fat.

MILF: Old and Fat.

Petite: Short and Fat.

Fun sized: Usually short, always Fat.

BBW: Impossibly Fat.

Snow Bunny: White.

Mixed: Black.

Exotic: Black.

From The Islands: Black.

Asian: Actually Asian, occasionally Black.

No AA: My pimp is Black.

Independent: My pimp will stay out of sight during your visit.

I'm Mobile: My pimp will drive me to your place and case the joint during our session.

Open Minded: 3 hole friendly.

Squirter: I'll piss on you.

Party Friendly: Junkie.

Trucker Friendly: I will suck your dick behind a Wendy's dumpster.

Deposit Required: Scam artist.

Verification Required: Scam artist and / or black mailer.

Upscale: Same lousy service, but higher price.

Discreet: 15 guys visit me here everyday and don't want the hotel manager kicking me out.

My Photos are Real: My photos are 5 years old and 50 lbs ago.

Text Only: I spent money on drugs instead of my phone bill and now I'm stuck using a free text app over my slum motel's Wi-Fi.

No Cops: I don't understand how the law works.

I Love White Guys: Overpay me.

Mature Men Only: Overpay me and don't fu*ck me so hard.

No Time Wasters: I will waste your time.[/QUOTE]5 more minutes?

[QUOTE=DonnnyBravo;7443667]
Girls likely don't do this, but you can search the carrier and it will tell you. Real phones say Verizon, ATT, Tmobile, etc. The apps are all VOIP and don't use carriers, so the carrier name will not be any company you'd recognize. If you use an app that comes with a SIM, it will be contracted through a main carrier.[/QUOTE]Not anymore. Most new phones use eSIMs. Even some made in the last four years or so that still had a hard Sim slot can accept an eSIM. Many of the virtual carriers, like Mint, Xfinity Mobile, or Consumer Cellular, use mostly eSIMs and are not text apps.

I use eSIMs all the time when out of the US, sometimes using up the prepaid service when I return to the US. I've purchased services through Orange, Vodaphone, even some airlines like Emirates or Lufthansa.


The number I currently have in my Burner app comes back as a Connecticut number.

[QUOTE=JoeRando;7443598]Do you guys have better luck using a burner phone as opposed to texting apps? I myself use the "TextME" app, and probably get a response 2 out of 10 times. I've tried many different greetings, crickets. Not sure if I'll better luck with a burner which I'm trying to avoid. I know I could always hide the burner and whatnot but the app is so much convenient. I could just delete it or hide it until I'm ready to use. Plus less chance of anyone tracking my identity (no malice behind it). For whatever reason many providers frown upon apps, even though a lot of them also use them.[/QUOTE]Burner phone. Never had any issues with them.

If maintaining anonymity is critical (for obvious reasons), a few things to keep in mind with the burner:

1. Always pay for the phone and your minutes with cash (the seller will still know where the phone / minutes were purchased, but not by whom).

2. Just as important, make sure you activate said phone via a means not traceable back to you;.

Example: Office conference room line (or someone else's office line).

Pay phone (yeah, I know they're pretty scare these days, but there are still some out there, look around.

Online via a publicly available PC / Internet connection (Public library for example).

These phones are a cheap / easy way to partake in the hobby while shielding your identity.

Just a heads up. I went to visit a friend for a hh and when I left to go to my car a tow truck driver was hitching my car. He said it was because I didn't have a permit. In all the years of visits I've done at that particular Silas deane motel it's never been a problem. Luckily he wasn't fully done and said he'd take a cash payment. After a frantic run to the gas station across the street I was able to pull the 1. 20 and I was on my way. Not sure if that's a new thing or I've just been lucky all this time. Either way, be warned!

[QUOTE=LeoDaddy85;7443922]Just a heads up. I went to visit a friend for a hh and when I left to go to my car a tow truck driver was hitching my car. He said it was because I didn't have a permit. In all the years of visits I've done at that particular Silas deane motel it's never been a problem. Luckily he wasn't fully done and said he'd take a cash payment. After a frantic run to the gas station across the street I was able to pull the 1. 20 and I was on my way. Not sure if that's a new thing or I've just been lucky all this time. Either way, be warned![/QUOTE]Yes, there are many reports of towing from the 6. Sorry you missed them. Park across the street next time.

[QUOTE=Woody50;7443651]I use an app called "Burner". It texts and handles incoming and outgoing voice calls, as well as voice mail. You can choose the area code and general area, as well as have multiple numbers. It's not free.

I've been using it for almost 10 years, it's never been questioned.[/QUOTE]Cool. I did found out about Burner and was thinking about it. Definitely will try it now.

[QUOTE=LuckyCT;7443930]Yes, there are many reports of towing from the 6. Sorry you missed them. Park across the street next time.[/QUOTE]I guess so man. Apparently, I've just been lucky for the last several years. You live and you learn!

[QUOTE=LuckyCT;7443930]Yes, there are many reports of towing from the 6. Sorry you missed them. Park across the street next time.[/QUOTE]It's a budget motel in Wethersfield. They act like it's a 5 star in a major city. I could understand if there were a big event going on but it's Wethersfield. I was there a few weeks ago and parked near the restaurants since I had heard about the towing and that you're probably safe there. The parking lot wasn't even half full. I don't know if this is an effort to drive the escorts away which would cost them a few hundred thousand in business every year or if they are trying to appease the local police or if they have a new manager with a hard on for towing cars. If that place were full every night I could understand them towing visitors but that place is never close to full.

[QUOTE=GordonFreeman;7443840]5 more minutes?[/QUOTE]I doubled booked and he arrived before you did.

[QUOTE=LeoDaddy85;7443922]Just a heads up. I went to visit a friend for a hh and when I left to go to my car a tow truck driver was hitching my car. He said it was because I didn't have a permit. In all the years of visits I've done at that particular Silas deane motel it's never been a problem. Luckily he wasn't fully done and said he'd take a cash payment. After a frantic run to the gas station across the street I was able to pull the 1. 20 and I was on my way. Not sure if that's a new thing or I've just been lucky all this time. Either way, be warned![/QUOTE]They have been towing for a while now. Got to get a pass from the room holder or park someplace else. The fact that its happening so much and so fast is concerning. I feel like uninvited friends may be showing up soon.

[QUOTE=LuvrOfWomen;7443971]It's a budget motel in Wethersfield. They act like it's a 5 star in a major city. I could understand if there were a big event going on but it's Wethersfield. I was there a few weeks ago and parked near the restaurants since I had heard about the towing and that you're probably safe there. The parking lot wasn't even half full. I don't know if this is an effort to drive the escorts away which would cost them a few hundred thousand in business every year or if they are trying to appease the local police or if they have a new manager with a hard on for towing cars. If that place were full every night I could understand them towing visitors but that place is never close to full.[/QUOTE]Some tow companies kick back part of the tow fees to the property owner.

Girls that can't manage their own time should not be managing a guy's time with them. Constant delays on arrival, delays in room, then a timer is set to make sure you don't go over your paid time. Say no to timers if they can't be on time and ready on arrival.

Just my perspective. Not pointed at any particular girl but girls in general that use timers.

Don't forget to thank your favorite escort or those that have given you gifts this year.

If you're home alone or not with friends or family, plenty of girls still willing to serve your favorite meal. There's plenty of stuffing to go around and plenty of pies to be had. There's at least one or two that already have a bun in the oven. Be weary if they leave you with some cranberry sauce as you leave but at least you won't be home alone to beat your meat.

Be well all. Happy Thanksgiving!

[QUOTE=DonnnyBravo;7455374]Don't forget to thank your favorite escort or those that have given you gifts this year.

Be well all. Happy Thanksgiving![/QUOTE]Hopefully only wanted gifts!

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Anyone else get really annoyed when someone advertises as a "throat goat" but then has no BBBJ in their profile? Can you really be a throat goat if you don't offer a BBBJ?

Sure. Like you I want BBBJ, but CBJ taken deep still fits the category. Awhile ago I asked something similar when "nothing bare" is in the ad yet cim is listed in menu. The crappy yet honest reply was popping in the bag while in the mouth fits.

[QUOTE=Lurker44;7463601]Anyone else get really annoyed when someone advertises as a "throat goat" but then has no BBBJ in their profile? Can you really be a throat goat if you don't offer a BBBJ?[/QUOTE]

I don't know why this is something I have put out almost once a year. Yes, I know girls, seen girls, some know me even though I never met, some respect me more than any money that may appear in front of them. With that said, some of you dbags can't seem to reach certain girls or out looking for discounts and think that dropping my name as your friend will give you an advantage. I found out today from 3 diff girls that my name was used. I rarely if ever vouch for people, and if I do it's only for senior members that actively contribute. This isn't an advertisement to reach out to me for a vouch. I told the girls that anyone that drops my name should just be blocked unless I've already vouched ahead of time. If a girl asks me about someone that drops my name, I'm just going to say that person is a stalker and should be blocked.

I'm just an avg dude navigating this space like all of you. I don't need credit. Plenty of quality seniors here that put in as much as me if not more.

[QUOTE=DonnnyBravo;7464127]I don't know why this is something I have put out almost once a year. Yes, I know girls, seen girls, some know me even though I never met, some respect me more than any money that may appear in front of them. With that said, some of you dbags can't seem to reach certain girls or out looking for discounts and think that dropping my name as your friend will give you an advantage. I found out today from 3 diff girls that my name was used. I rarely if ever vouch for people, and if I do it's only for senior members that actively contribute. This isn't an advertisement to reach out to me for a vouch. I told the girls that anyone that drops my name should just be blocked unless I've already vouched ahead of time. If a girl asks me about someone that drops my name, I'm just going to say that person is a stalker and should be blocked.

I'm just an avg dude navigating this space like all of you. I don't need credit. Plenty of quality seniors here that put in as much as me if not more.[/QUOTE]It's a sad sad world.

[QUOTE=Newbie58;7463654]Sure. Like you I want BBBJ, but CBJ taken deep still fits the category. Awhile ago I asked something similar when "nothing bare" is in the ad yet cim is listed in menu. The crappy yet honest reply was popping in the bag while in the mouth fits.[/QUOTE]Hell, no. I'm not easily annoyed, but that would irk me.

A woman was shopping at her local supermarket where.

She selected a quart of 2% milk, a carton of eggs.

Quart of orange juice, a head of romaine lettuce.

A 2 lb. Can of coffee, and a 1 lb. Package of bacon.

As she was unloading her items on the conveyor belt.

To check out, a drunk standing behind her watched as.

She placed the items in front of the cashier.

He said, "You must be single. " The woman, a bit.

Startled but intrigued by the derelict's intuition.

Looked at her six items on the belt.

Seeing nothing particularly unusual about her.

Selections she said, "Well, you know what, you're.

Absolutely correct. But how on earth did you know.

That?

The drunk replied, "'Cause you're ugly ".

This is a critical week for your favorite girls out there. Many people travelling, spending time with and money on gifts for their family, all while these girls sit alone in their motel rooms wondering if anyone cares about them.

What does this mean? Deals! Give appropriate appreciation for your favorite girl or girls. Most girls will accept just about anything that's reasonable and not down right insulting with extremely low demand. Many providers wait out the holiday period, while those struggling post ads more frequently hoping for just enough to save their room and treat their withdrawal symptoms for another day. Best deals happen the closer to normal check out time as covering a day or getting kicked out may be on the line. Recommend leaving sufficient time for a meet ahead of checkout time so they don't try to convince you they need money in advance or first thing to go pay the room before starting. Show the green but hold back. One option is to bring a small lockbox, put the money in it in front of them, and hand them the lockbox. At the end of the meet provide the code, they get their green, and you get the lockbox back at the end.

[QUOTE=DonnnyBravo;7477851]This is a critical week for your favorite girls out there. Many people travelling, spending time with and money on gifts for their family, all while these girls sit alone in their motel rooms wondering if anyone cares about them.

What does this mean? Deals! Give appropriate appreciation for your favorite girl or girls. Most girls will accept just about anything that's reasonable and not down right insulting with extremely low demand. Many providers wait out the holiday period, while those struggling post ads more frequently hoping for just enough to save their room and treat their withdrawal symptoms for another day. Best deals happen the closer to normal check out time as covering a day or getting kicked out may be on the line. Recommend leaving sufficient time for a meet ahead of checkout time so they don't try to convince you they need money in advance or first thing to go pay the room before starting. Show the green but hold back. One option is to bring a small lockbox, put the money in it in front of them, and hand them the lockbox. At the end of the meet provide the code, they get their green, and you get the lockbox back at the end.[/QUOTE]I don't think I would do the lockbox thing but I do agree that it may be slow for some ladies. Last holiday season I had a lady I see often texts me and she was literally about to get kicked out into the cold. I brought her McDonalds and she was literally starving. I did not negotiate a better price but what was normally just pleasant covered sessions got negotiated into an extended PSE session.