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I've got her a few times but never really exchanged names but she is always on 22 ave inbetween 52/60th. She use to be sorta big last time I saw her lost some weight must be the crack diet. Older blond though decent tits. Usually 20 for bbbjcim.

What her name was I've used her a few times over the past two years.

Usuually 20 BBJCIM Blond hair older decent tits.

Cheryl in SE WI is older $ to $.5 depending on time.

Older BBW with good oral skills.

For those of you driving the streets of Racine looking for SWs - the best gas prices around anywhere seem to be at the green gas station on Taylor, just south of 16th. While you're pumping gas you can look up & down the street & see if you can spot Carrie - a real deep-throat expert.

CM

I always feel like a loser when I post that I went to this pit. I went Monday about noon. They asked me how I knew they were open on Mondays, as this was new for them..It was just random. I had my choice between some old crackhead, a fairly younger decent looking white chick, and a middle aged chick named Kay. I can't remember what the younger chicks name was, but if you scroll through my posts, I had her last time I was here and she was horrible... So I took Kay. $40 at the door. The younger chick looked shocked (which I thought was funny, becasue she was such a **** last time). Kay had a fairly black and blue jaw, which she claimed was from an attack from her female roomate. I don't really like how they ramble on sometimes. Anyway.. as I recalled it was $20 for topless and $40 for nude..So I only brought in about $85 with me...

This chick tells me she is 51 years old. Now here is the sick part, her tits were actually kind of hot. They were big (not crazy big), and not wrinkled or saggy. Half way through the HJ I asked her if BJ's were on the menu and she said no (not that I had extra cash on me anyway, but it couldn't hurt to ask) But she said sex was $60. I could have fucked this broad for an extra $20. Please note that I am only vouching for her tits, as I would describe the rest of her body as good for 51, but as bad for a 30 year old...

[QUOTE=Rub & Tugged]I always feel like a loser when I post that I went to this pit. I went Monday about noon. They asked me how I knew they were open on Mondays, as this was new for them. It was just random. I had my choice between some old crackhead, a fairly younger decent looking white chick, and a middle aged chick named Kay. I can't remember what the younger chicks name was, but if you scroll through my posts, I had her last time I was here and she was horrible. So I took Kay. $40 at the door. The younger chick looked shocked (which I thought was funny, becasue she was such a **** last time). Kay had a fairly black and blue jaw, which she claimed was from an attack from her female roomate. I don't really like how they ramble on sometimes. Anyway. As I recalled it was $20 for topless and $40 for nude. So I only brought in about $85 with me.

This chick tells me she is 51 years old. Now here is the sick part, her tits were actually kind of hot. They were big (not crazy big), and not wrinkled or saggy. Half way through the HJ I asked her if BJ's were on the menu and she said no (not that I had extra cash on me anyway, but it couldn't hurt to ask) But she said sex was $60. I could have fucked this broad for an extra $20. Please note that I am only vouching for her tits, as I would describe the rest of her body as good for 51, but as bad for a 30 year old.[/QUOTE]I've been searching and using the site for awhile, I am such a noobie. And I have this inner monger yet I am meek, shy, etc.

I finally had the nerve to go to Pine the other day, and I probably had the doe in headlight look as it was pretty standard, despite the 1min HE.

I guess when they ask/offer a TS you shouldn't say no, that you just took a shower. Clearly that was just 1 of my many mistakes.

I'm from K-town. And need to be pointed in a direction from any seniors, please. Maybe I'd try the Northside but the s/e wisc APMS seem pretty elusive. And CL is less than stellar.

Thanks so much.

Yahoo northside spa racine... It is not marked well at all....the front door kind of faces a triangle intersection.....There might not even be a sign anymore................ You don't need to take the shower at Northside, but do take it at every AMP.... Try Cozy Spa next....and go in through the back door, and remember to say you have been there before.. I like to have a beer or two first at Austin's to relax me a little.. Also, these Asians are pros at extracting jizz from a weiner.. Sometimes I jerk it before I go so I last longer...

[QUOTE=Gotthe Itch]I've been searching and using the site for awhile, I am such a noobie. And I have this inner monger yet I am meek, shy, etc.

I finally had the nerve to go to Pine the other day, and I probably had the doe in headlight look as it was pretty standard, despite the 1min HE.

I guess when they ask/offer a TS you shouldn't say no, that you just took a shower. Clearly that was just 1 of my many mistakes.

I'm from K-town. And need to be pointed in a direction from any seniors, please. Maybe I'd try the Northside but the s/e wisc APMS seem pretty elusive. And CL is less than stellar.

Thanks so much.[/QUOTE]Is that true that declining a TS can be a problem?

I really don't like them, so I take a shower before going.

At Beijing in Milwaukee they do not seem to mind.

There is a guide to AMP's.. Getting nekkid for the TS is a subtle signal that you are down with what is going to go down, as opposed to some stiff off the street that doesn't know and might be offended at a HS... For this rookie, TS is the move..... also try to get a couple names off this board you can drop..

Here it is, from a poster named USTraveller:

[i]1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside - Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your ID. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.

2) Entry into the AMP - Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say hello to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.

3) Become a Repeat Customer - This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times, "have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.

3a) Get/Present a Business Card - Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.

3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer - If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. and have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!

3c) If you are a new Customer - You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.

3d) Prove you are not LE - If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.

4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP - Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.

5) Use Provided "Purse" - Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.

6) Bring your own condom - The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.

7) Shower Etiquette - Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.

8) Enjoy the Massage - It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.

9) Lose the Towel - If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.

10) Become Aroused - Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

11) Wait to Flip Over - At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

12) The "Tip" - The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (i.e. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing.

13) The Fun Part - When she returns (or starts), it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.

14) Variations - If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.

15) Happy Ending - After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.

16) Be Polite - I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f**k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.

17) Learn the Language - If you can learn Korean/Chinese/etc., you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.

18) Post Your Experience - We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP/Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team".

Disclaimer: This is just based on my experience in AMPs in a few cities as well as some tips I saw on this forum. I don't claim to be an expert. Feel free to add on your own tips and direct others from the City forums you post in to this section. Next time someone asks "any advice for visiting an AMP for the first time", you can point them here and hopefully others will share their tips and advice. I'm always looking for new tips too. I did this over a year ago in the old forum and thought I'd start a new thread here to help out everyone who goes to AMPs.[/i]

Some of them don't apply to everywhere, but there's still good advice there, and knowing this all can help you feel a bit more comfortable and confident in the place.

Me personally, I always get a TS if the place offers it. A good table shower can be a great experience, and a nice start to the massage session.

And Northside finally hired on a new person, I guess they needed someone to replace Mary, and Alice isn't there any more also (thank god). Is Kay there everyday? Or does she only work certain days. I haven't been there in months, haven't had the a lot of disposable income, and what I had wasn't going to be wasted on Nancy or Mercedes (the young girl mentioned. She's younger then everyone else there, but it will be a waste of money, she's so bad at everything). But with someone new there, offereing FS for $, might be worth a stop.

I have some comments based on my limited experience.

I also leave my wallet with credit card in the trunk of my car. I only carry as much money as I feel I can part with, keys and my cell phone(turned off).

I never noticed a purse or bag for valuables. One of the things I don't like about TS is getting separated from my stuff. I will definitely look or ask for a bag in the future.

The comment about keeping an eye on your stuff in the room is easier said then done for me. I don't find it easy when my head is face down on the table facing in the opposite direction from the clothes rack or chair where I put my clothes.

I think the most important tip may be getting totally naked asap. I think that sets the tone for why you are there. Don't be shy.

I never really knew if I should ask for extras or wait until I am asked. It seems like the consensus here is to give signals, but wait to be asked. That is pretty much how I have handled it and it seemed to work out for me too.

It's great to be able to have a forum to discuss this stuff since I really don't have any friends I am comfortable talking about this with.

I do this with about 6 guys from high school. At times we have gone in groups of 2-3 after barring... One time four guys went to Singapore Spa on Golf after a Bears game... I get a lot of random calls like...Guess where I'm walking in to right now..... We also do this so if we ever turn up missing, someone would know where to start looking for us.....This site provides way more information than we could cobble together...

Have been to the Northside/Nancy's many times and agree with everybody regarding the reviews. Sandy with Oxygen in one hand and a Dick in the other is an image I will never stop laughing at. You guys are great! Keep it up. So my question is. Where and what is the "Pine" A post or PM with the location would be greatly appreciated. Every so often a guy needs to really slum it.

Stay safe

And don't let the little brain run the show. Just lead the way.

Would like to find an alternative to Northside Spa, I asked earlier about the "Pine". PM or Post with a location and some specifics so I can walk in like a regular. I will report on all my Racine activities since I will down in the area two days a week till the end of the year. Thanks guys

Be Safe.

I have been to both and Pine is far and away my preference. Pine is located on Rt. 21 in Libertyville about a half mile north of Rt. 176 on the left side of the road if you are going south on 21. You can't really see it going southbound. The best way to tell you to find it is to go to turn at the tire dealer on the left (Firestone or Goodyear), go to the far south corner of the tire dealer and turn left until you can't go any farther and you will see Pine. Its in a strip mall.

You enter and ring a bell. Mamasan will greet you and take you to a room and ask if you are there for an hour or half hour. You pay her for your time and strip down. The assigned girl comes in and asks you if you want a table shower. I always get that even if I have showered an hour before. After table shower she drys you off and takes you to the sauna where you are alone and dry off some more. After a short time in the sauna you go to your room with her. I don't take my stuff with me all over the place in the little plastic bag and I have never had any reason to suspect that my valuables would disappear when I was out of the massage room.

I always tell the girl what I want and leave a tip in advance. I don't worry about bad service because I have never had bad service and the girls know who I am. Amount of the tip is up to you but there is a direct correlation between your mileage and amount of tip.

The owners of the place want you to be comfortable and enjoy. I always go for an hour but only about half of the time get the full hour. Usually its about 50 minutes from the time I walk in to the time I walk out.

If you go to the Illinois section you will find Pine rather easily and you can read about it there. Although there are a few negative remarks, Pine tries hard but they can't please everybody. I just look at it as whether I am getting what I pay for and I have never been disappointed.