Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

[QUOTE=MistressZodiac;3245551]You still tune into my show. Even though you have never met me nor had an actual conversation with me. I'm not the only provider that has a fan club nor am I the only provider that reaches her clients on forum pages. Don't feel special for lashing out at me. You are not the first or the last of the long list. Stay tuned for the updated USASG and see the ladies have a say so too. We are hobbyists just as mongers are. We just happen to look great doing it.

As the old phrase goes," Don't hate the player, Hate the game".

MZ.[/QUOTE]If you were a "hobbyist" you'd be doing this for free. You're not a hobbyist.

[QUOTE=Buki1;3245501]Kudos? Oh please. Hypocrite? Sure. Again I couldn't care less about the privacy of a provider. I care about keeping mongers safe-period. If you have a problem with that, deal with it.[/QUOTE]I don't see what revealing a provider's facebook has to do with a hobbyist's safety honestly. I suppose I will just continue to warn anyone who pops up on here with an accessible facebook.

[blue]If somebody posts a link to a facebook account that is a personal and not a professional account then report the post. It's pretty simple and you're making it complicated.

You report it, I look at it, if it has their real life I delete it, I tell the person who posted it not to do that again, if they do I put them on moderation forever.

There's really no need for this discussion, the rules are clear, don't post info that leads to a providers real as opposed to work life. End of story.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Buki1;3246471]Are you saying that if you know where I'm employed I'll perform better? Silly.[/QUOTE]If you need to kno about us to feel safe we needthe same thing! Point fucking blank! If you want out FB we want yours. If you want to know my age, race, occuptation, cup size, e. G. I'm friends with on FB. The least you should be willing to give us a way are verify your not the fucking law! BTW just being a memeber on a free broad is not it!

As far as Jimmy (littlehead) not wanting to play I have found it's because you don't know me and I don't know you. It's stranger danger. So yes me not knowing what you do for a living endangers my welfare therefore leads me to not be as comfortable around you and Jimmy feels those things and doesn't want to play.

You say it's a females attitude about the company she keeps but it's also a choice if we want to see you. Just because you say you will donate a set amount doesn't mean we should accept your company. It's like real speed dating except you find your matches a lot faster.

MZ.

[QUOTE=GetControl;3246748]If you were a "hobbyist" you'd be doing this for free. You're not a hobbyist.[/QUOTE]Just because I like something and want to spend my time doing it does not make me any less of a hobbyist. If I profit while I do it that just makes.

I'm a hobbyist, it makes me smart.

That's like saying a porn star can't be a hobbyist if she profits in more ways than one.

MZ.

[QUOTE=InaraIncognito;3246860]I don't see what revealing a provider's facebook has to do with a hobbyist's safety honestly. I suppose I will just continue to warn anyone who pops up on here with an accessible facebook.

[blue]If somebody posts a link to a facebook account that is a personal and not a professional account then report the post. It's pretty simple and you're making it complicated.

You report it, I look at it, if it has their real life I delete it, I tell the person who posted it not to do that again, if they do I put them on moderation forever.

There's really no need for this discussion, the rules are clear, don't post info that leads to a providers real as opposed to work life. End of story.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]OK A2. The posters don't post a direct link but rather circumvent the rules by posting initials from mugshots and imply a provider can be found on FB with her phone number. I haven't once seen these posts deleted so there is a need for discussion. Would you delete these posts even though there wasn't a direct link if I reported them?

[blue]They are not in any way the same, what you are talking about is process and technique. If a commercial sex worker is stupid enough to use her actual phone for work and have that phone listed in her facebook page then she's the one who has surrendered her privacy though bad business practices. All she had to do to foil them was pick up a 20 dollar burner at wally world.

They are not circumventing any rules, guys are allowed to talk about process all day long.

That's like the providers that post pictures on backpage that show the needle and spoon in the mirror then get pissed off when guys point it out.

A2[/blue]

I hear you, A2. I'll never post a link to a provider site but think referring to the connection of number to account is within policy. Please advise if I have crossed the line.

[QUOTE=InaraIncognito;3246860]I don't see what revealing a provider's facebook has to do with a hobbyist's safety honestly. I suppose I will just continue to warn anyone who pops up on here with an accessible facebook.

[blue]If somebody posts a link to a facebook account that is a personal and not a professional account then report the post. It's pretty simple and you're making it complicated.

You report it, I look at it, if it has their real life I delete it, I tell the person who posted it not to do that again, if they do I put them on moderation forever.

There's really no need for this discussion, the rules are clear, don't post info that leads to a providers real as opposed to work life. End of story.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]

Point fucking blank, we are simply smarter than you and do better research. Point fucking blank, Hun. Your reasoning skills need a complete overhaul. Did you actually read what you wrote? I think not or you would likely be embarrassed.

[QUOTE=MistressZodiac;3246922]If you need to kno about us to feel safe we needthe same thing! Point fucking blank! If you want out FB we want yours. If you want to know my age, race, occuptation, cup size, e. G. I'm friends with on FB. The least you should be willing to give us a way are verify your not the fucking law! BTW just being a memeber on a free broad is not it!

As far as Jimmy (littlehead) not wanting to play I have found it's because you don't know me and I don't know you. It's stranger danger. So yes me not knowing what you do for a living endangers my welfare therefore leads me to not be as comfortable around you and Jimmy feels those things and doesn't want to play.

You say it's a females attitude about the company she keeps but it's also a choice if we want to see you. Just because you say you will donate a set amount doesn't mean we should accept your company. It's like real speed dating except you find your matches a lot faster.

MZ.[/QUOTE]

So screening makes jimmy jump, and kitty soak? That happens after several visits, not due to initial screening (which no one with anything to lose should ever do). Go away little girl.

[QUOTE=MistressZodiac;3246922]If you need to kno about us to feel safe we needthe same thing! Point fucking blank! If you want out FB we want yours. If you want to know my age, race, occuptation, cup size, e. G. I'm friends with on FB. The least you should be willing to give us a way are verify your not the fucking law! BTW just being a memeber on a free broad is not it!

As far as Jimmy (littlehead) not wanting to play I have found it's because you don't know me and I don't know you. It's stranger danger. So yes me not knowing what you do for a living endangers my welfare therefore leads me to not be as comfortable around you and Jimmy feels those things and doesn't want to play.

You say it's a females attitude about the company she keeps but it's also a choice if we want to see you. Just because you say you will donate a set amount doesn't mean we should accept your company. It's like real speed dating except you find your matches a lot faster.

MZ.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=InaraIncognito;3247494]OK A2. The posters don't post a direct link but rather circumvent the rules by posting initials from mugshots and imply a provider can be found on FB with her phone number. I haven't once seen these posts deleted so there is a need for discussion. Would you delete these posts even though there wasn't a direct link if I reported them?

[blue]They are not in any way the same, what you are talking about is process and technique. If a commercial sex worker is stupid enough to use her actual phone for work and have that phone listed in her facebook page then she's the one who has surrendered her privacy though bad business practices. All she had to do to foil them was pick up a 20 dollar burner at wally world.

They are not circumventing any rules, guys are allowed to talk about process all day long.

That's like the providers that post pictures on backpage that show the needle and spoon in the mirror then get pissed off when guys point it out.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]A2 I know these women probably aren't the brightest crayon in the box but many don't know you can search numbers on Facebook. Hell even some of my clients are surprised I've found them on Facebook. I don't feel like that should be held against them but point taken.

[QUOTE=MistressZodiac;3246922]If you need to kno about us to feel safe we needthe same thing! Point fucking blank! If you want out FB we want yours. If you want to know my age, race, occuptation, cup size, e. G. I'm friends with on FB. The least you should be willing to give us a way are verify your not the fucking law! BTW just being a memeber on a free broad is not it!

As far as Jimmy (littlehead) not wanting to play I have found it's because you don't know me and I don't know you. It's stranger danger. So yes me not knowing what you do for a living endangers my welfare therefore leads me to not be as comfortable around you and Jimmy feels those things and doesn't want to play.

You say it's a females attitude about the company she keeps but it's also a choice if we want to see you. Just because you say you will donate a set amount doesn't mean we should accept your company. It's like real speed dating except you find your matches a lot faster.

MZ.[/QUOTE]I don't post often, but I feel compelled to throw in on this one. Good points made by both sides!

From my viewpoint (client, customer, monger, etc) I'm gambling every time I contact a girl from backpage. I don't know if she is going to look like the photos in the ad, I don't know if she'll try to rip me off and I don't know if I'm driving across town only to bail once I get there to check out the situation. So, yes I'd like to know as much as I can about the person on the phone before I start driving.

From your view point, I'm sure you and other girls have many of the same concerns, as well as some with more serious consequences. So I can understand why you'd want to check me out before meeting me. With the client / provider ratio that there is, the law of averages says that you're going to get more flakes than I will.

In Asia, the girls in a given area, or even in the same city, have a network almost like a mafia. If you mess one of them around, you're toast and word will l fast. In a few European countries, sex work is sanctioned by the government and the girls have recourse if a client does them wrong. In these places, the girls work openly, it's looked at no differently than being a sales clerk or a plumber. We get to meet the girls in public first, and check each other out. Here, we've got LE induced fear, mixed with a low public opinion of sex workers and their clients, so everything stays hidden and meetings are setup under sketchy circumstances. The laws that we have concerning sex for money don't protect either side, contrarily they make everything more difficult all the way around.

It would be great if we could come up with a way to verify the good people in this "hobby", on both sides of the money. Until the laws get changed, and I don't hold my breath on that, everyone has to accept the risks that come with the gamble. Risk giving up some info to get some info, risk a little vulnerability to gain a little security. Bottom line if you can't trust somebody with a little personal information, don't fuck them. Meet for a drink, for a coffee, for lunch, for a quick chat, whatever. We'll both be more comfortable, and have a better time in bed for it. Meeting on the phone and going straight from there to the bedroom leads to way too much apprehension and anxiety to make things enjoyable. Face to face screenings are the best way.

That's the end of my rant, thanks for listening.

[QUOTE=InaraIncognito;3247494]OK A2. The posters don't post a direct link but rather circumvent the rules by posting initials from mugshots and imply a provider can be found on FB with her phone number. I haven't once seen these posts deleted so there is a need for discussion. Would you delete these posts even though there wasn't a direct link if I reported them?

[blue]They are not in any way the same, what you are talking about is process and technique. If a commercial sex worker is stupid enough to use her actual phone for work and have that phone listed in her facebook page then she's the one who has surrendered her privacy though bad business practices. All she had to do to foil them was pick up a 20 dollar burner at wally world.

They are not circumventing any rules, guys are allowed to talk about process all day long.

That's like the providers that post pictures on backpage that show the needle and spoon in the mirror then get pissed off when guys point it out.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]To a certain degree I agree about facebook and I myself have actually let a sex worker know that her fb account was linked to her phone number. I did it because she had family photos and IMO that it far different than the chick with pictures of her club life, boyfriend or whatever. In regards to initials for arrests I think that is perfectly fine. Your mugshot as well as your charges are public domain. Nobody here is holding them guilty or anything we're just trying to keep each other safe from sex workers who may be involved in drugs or may present a higher risk due to recent arrest.

Making sure a guy has a decent grasp on whatever language you prefer to speak as well as the money to pay is all the screening you really need. Having a "good" job does not mean a guy will perform better or not get rough with you. Knowing where a guy works will not prevent you from being raped. I have no problems saying what field I work in and answering questions related to that field but I'll never hand over personal information because it's not relevant nor is it in my best interest. Hell race shouldn't even be an issue.

On the other side of the coin we as consumers absolutely have the right to screen and get personal in doing it because we are buying a service. Most people check yelp before going to restaurants and screening sex workers via conversation or forums like this is no different.

WhAt is your screening process and what are your minimum require ta for information?

What are your red flags?

[QUOTE=MistressZodiac;3247366]Just because I like something and want to spend my time doing it does not make me any less of a hobbyist. If I profit while I do it that just makes.

I'm a hobbyist, it makes me smart.

That's like saying a porn star can't be a hobbyist if she profits in more ways than one.

MZ.[/QUOTE]It's not the same thing. You're a pro not a hobbyist. Big difference. You don't fuck for free and you don't fuck to get off. You fuck for the money. Nothing wrong with that, just there is a totally different mentality between you and your customers.

[QUOTE=Buki1;3247679]So screening makes jimmy jump, and kitty soak? That happens after several visits, not due to initial screening (which no one with anything to lose should ever do). Go away little girl.[/QUOTE]I know you would like to believe that the amount of research on both sides has nothing to do with performance but it does. You said after a few times of seeing someone you can better mild to eachother and the motion in the ocean gets better. Now let's think in terms of the first meeting. If I the provider kno your age, race, occupation I can better grasp what kind of man you are. I require voice calls to confirm the information I have in my screening process. Now having a provider as a refrence allowsme to know your not a cop. Your other requirements allow me to kno your demographic. Each grouping of individuals has specific needs and wants. It's called phsycology ans socialogy. Even though you perseve me to be a dumb little girl shows me that you want to write my knowledge off as irrelevant based on your ego. I don't feel dumb or stupid for knowing more about the functioning of Jimmy under stress. That's why you gent' research is so much. You "have shit to lose". So do we as providers. If you want to believe that only clients should research providers then you clearly don't see the whole open trade market. We can refuse service at any time to anyone. Just like you can always just not see us. But I will point out, the ladies that don't ask those questions have nothing to lose and for you having so much to lose. The balance of safety and respect isn't there. But again respect was never high on. Your list of things to do today. LOL.

MZ.