EMP (European Massage Parlor) Reports

This is essentially how I break it down. He was continuously being shot down for extras. She was perplexed. WE all know she puts out, but she doesn't understand how HE knows she puts out. Is he a FBSM connoisseur, or LE? I'm guessing he confessed to her that another guy recommended to see her for something sexy. That this mystery customer could be the reason she's seeing an uptick in business. Bottom line, even if it brings more men in the door, it's likely that she's easily offended over the way men talk together (it's not like women don't dish on men, but that's another gripe altogether). I'm thinking that she wanted to make this blabber mouth pay and that blabber mouth was me. All she needed was for this repeat customer to finally give up a name or number. I know Euros can be spooked, but even if she is a hottie, she's too strict and at the same time, too naive think men aren't going to flock.

Xabi is right as well. Even if I never had this happen to me before, she's not the only Euro out there. For those who take the plunge with her, YMMV greatly.

[QUOTE=Cubiche;2621641]I confess to being confused. As I understand it, she asked for reference and then was upset that one was provided!! There has to be more to the story.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2622306]This is essentially how I break it down. He was continuously being shot down for extras. She was perplexed. WE all know she puts out, but she doesn't understand how HE knows she puts out. Is he a FBSM connoisseur, or LE? I'm guessing he confessed to her that another guy recommended to see her for something sexy. That this mystery customer could be the reason she's seeing an uptick in business. Bottom line, even if it brings more men in the door, it's likely that she's easily offended over the way men talk together (it's not like women don't dish on men, but that's another gripe altogether). I'm thinking that she wanted to make this blabber mouth pay and that blabber mouth was me. All she needed was for this repeat customer to finally give up a name or number. I know Euros can be spooked, but even if she is a hottie, she's too strict and at the same time, too naive think men aren't going to flock.

Xabi is right as well. Even if I never had this happen to me before, she's not the only Euro out there. For those who take the plunge with her, YMMV greatly.[/QUOTE]I've seen Diana a number of times. Never got any extras, but I keep going back when I can. Even if she's not giving extras, its a fantastic massage, not too bad on price, and incredibly sexy. Every time I get a massage from her, my wife has a fantastic night. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to get extras from her. But even without extras, its worth going back, and I can't say that about too many massage therapists.

You have to keep in mind, she's a woman running her own business and employing a couple others. She does plenty of other legit business besides massage, and has a lot to lose if she gets "found out. " So, I understand if she's a little skittish about extras, and I understand even more if she gets skittish being talked about on this board. So, my recommendation for any mongers out there is to treat her with respect, and expect nothing extra. If you get it, great. If not, don't be a dick about it. She's sending out signals, but she's not advertising HE or anything else. So, the deal is that you get what you get. The minimum is that you get a really good massage with a lot of suggestion. Like your first session at Irene's but with an actual massage. If that doesn't work for you, go see someone else.

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2622306]This is essentially how I break it down. He was continuously being shot down for extras. She was perplexed. WE all know she puts out, but she doesn't understand how HE knows she puts out. Is he a FBSM connoisseur, or LE? I'm guessing he confessed to her that another guy recommended to see her for something sexy. That this mystery customer could be the reason she's seeing an uptick in business. Bottom line, even if it brings more men in the door, it's likely that she's easily offended over the way men talk together (it's not like women don't dish on men, but that's another gripe altogether). I'm thinking that she wanted to make this blabber mouth pay and that blabber mouth was me. All she needed was for this repeat customer to finally give up a name or number. I know Euros can be spooked, but even if she is a hottie, she's too strict and at the same time, too naive think men aren't going to flock.

Xabi is right as well. Even if I never had this happen to me before, she's not the only Euro out there. For those who take the plunge with her, YMMV greatly.[/QUOTE]She probably liked you enough to give you "Something Sexy" as you stated. Telling others about your "Something Sexy" massage wasn't a good idea in this case. If you said she gives a great legit massage, then you'd probably still be seeing her for your "Something Sexy" massage.

If anyone is not happy with the services of a particular provider they should move on and spend their hard earned money else where.

There are plenty of providers who will take care of you.

[QUOTE=QuietMan44;2622779]I've seen Diana a number of times. Never got any extras, but I keep going back when I can. Even if she's not giving extras, its a fantastic massage, not too bad on price, and incredibly sexy. Every time I get a massage from her, my wife has a fantastic night. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to get extras from her. But even without extras, its worth going back, and I can't say that about too many massage therapists.

You have to keep in mind, she's a woman running her own business and employing a couple others. She does plenty of other legit business besides massage, and has a lot to lose if she gets "found out. " So, I understand if she's a little skittish about extras, and I understand even more if she gets skittish being talked about on this board. So, my recommendation for any mongers out there is to treat her with respect, and expect nothing extra. If you get it, great. If not, don't be a dick about it. She's sending out signals, but she's not advertising HE or anything else. So, the deal is that you get what you get. The minimum is that you get a really good massage with a lot of suggestion. Like your first session at Irene's but with an actual massage. If that doesn't work for you, go see someone else.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2623015]If anyone is not happy with the services of a particular provider they should move on and spend their hard earned money else where.

There are plenty of providers who will take care of you.[/QUOTE]Ah, but sometimes the conquest is part of the fun. Not everyone can afford the time or cash to get there, but my most satisfying endeavors are achieving success with someone many others found to be 'untouchable. ' Be nice. Be complimentary. Be respectful. Have fun. Be generous. Many times you will get what you hope for. If not, then you have made a friend and received some good massages.

[QUOTE=RonM;2622867]She probably liked you enough to give you "Something Sexy" as you stated. Telling others about your "Something Sexy" massage wasn't a good idea in this case. If you said she gives a great legit massage, then you'd probably still be seeing her for your "Something Sexy" massage.[/QUOTE]I agree with Ron. Every so we get lucky to find our gem that makes us drain from our accounts. I totally understand why some guys want to keep some intel guarded and balance that with the desire to share our info with others.

[QUOTE=Chicag0;2623236]Ah, but sometimes the conquest is part of the fun. Not everyone can afford the time or cash to get there, but my most satisfying endeavors are achieving success with someone many others found to be 'untouchable. ' Be nice. Be complimentary. Be respectful. Have fun. Be generous. Many times you will get what you hope for. If not, then you have made a friend and received some good massages.[/QUOTE]What's the point of seeing the same girls and getting the same standard treatment as everyone else? That's boring to me. Half the reason I don't make too many reviews is because I usually only see YMMV girls and the last thing I want are people showing up saying, "well I read you did this so what gives?" Some stuff you got to keep to yourself and if that makes you a bad monger than so be it.

If they do it for you they do it for anyone. Your not any more special than anyone else.

[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;2623801]What's the point of seeing the same girls and getting the same standard treatment as everyone else? That's boring to me. Half the reason I don't make too many reviews is because I usually only see YMMV girls and the last thing I want are people showing up saying, "well I read you did this so what gives?" Some stuff you got to keep to yourself and if that makes you a bad monger than so be it.[/QUOTE]

Actually scares me sometimes. What goes around comes around.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2623811]If they do it for you they do it for anyone. Your not any more special than anyone else.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;2623801]What's the point of seeing the same girls and getting the same standard treatment as everyone else? That's boring to me. Half the reason I don't make too many reviews is because I usually only see YMMV girls and the last thing I want are people showing up saying, "well I read you did this so what gives?" Some stuff you got to keep to yourself and if that makes you a bad monger than so be it.[/QUOTE]I see the same girl because I know what to expect from her and she know what I like to do. Boring? Heck no. At my age seeing the same girl and doing the same fun things is great.

[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;2623453]I agree with Ron. Every so we get lucky to find our gem that makes us drain from our accounts. I totally understand why some guys want to keep some intel guarded and balance that with the desire to share our info with others.[/QUOTE]It's a delicate balance. Sometimes sharing info can backfire on you.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2623811]If they do it for you they do it for anyone. Your not any more special than anyone else.[/QUOTE]EPs are notoriously YMMV. If you haven't learned that by now you are not paying attention. There are plenty of situations where people get shot down only to see that another person wasn't. This is the nature of the game. As hard as it is for people here to believe, a lot of these girls do very well for themselves simply providing a legit experience. I didn't believe it myself at first until I became close with one provider and she showed me. Do you realize that some older men will tip over a hundred dollars after a legit session? It's unreal.

Anyways, my point isn't that I alone have received something that nobody else has ever gotten but that most EP's are unwilling to do anything unless they have built a connection and simply expecting to receive what somebody has in their review is the wrong approach.

Its stupid for a dude to tip $100 on a legit session. There is no upside. Whenever men overpay women just think you're a sucker and have zero respect for you. Of course they like the money and will probably give you a big smile, but guaranteed they are thinking 'Sucker. Chump. ".

I have gotten several top shelf legit massages costing as much as $180 (excluding tip). Not one of them would be on my top ten list of best massages. Even if I didn't count the HR. People mistakenly think about massages as being two types. Legit or illicit. That's like saying there are two types of cars. Cars with engines and cars without engines. Why the f would you buy a car with no engine then tip the sales person $100 for selling it to you.

Final point. Being draped during a massage is a non starter for me. A massage is about the client comfort not the provider. Providers fumbling clumsily with a drape to make absolutely sure nothing is ever exposed is wasting my time and money for the sake of their comfort.

Here's my tip. Find a top notch provider who gives an awesome massage plus HR. If. For some reason. You want to experience a "legit" massage, tell her to skip the HE. Don't waste your hard earned money on legit massages. It makes no sense.

[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;2625307]EPs are notoriously YMMV. If you haven't learned that by now you are not paying attention. There are plenty of situations where people get shot down only to see that another person wasn't. This is the nature of the game. As hard as it is for people here to believe, a lot of these girls do very well for themselves simply providing a legit experience. I didn't believe it myself at first until I became close with one provider and she showed me. Do you realize that some older men will tip over a hundred dollars after a legit session? It's unreal.

Anyways, my point isn't that I alone have received something that nobody else has ever gotten but that most EP's are unwilling to do anything unless they have built a connection and simply expecting to receive what somebody has in their review is the wrong approach.[/QUOTE]

Its stupid for a dude to tip $100 on a legit session. There is no upside. Whenever men overpay women just think you're a sucker and have zero respect for you. Of course they like the money and will probably give you a big smile, but guaranteed they are thinking 'Sucker. Chump. ".

I have gotten several top shelf legit massages costing as much as $180 (excluding tip). Not one of them would be on my top ten list of best massages. Even if I didn't count the HR. People mistakenly think about massages as being two types. Legit or illicit. That's like saying there are two types of cars. Cars with engines and cars without engines. Why the f would you buy a car with no engine then tip the sales person $100 for selling it to you.

Final point. Being draped during a massage is a non starter for me. A massage is about the client comfort not the provider. Providers fumbling clumsily with a drape to make absolutely sure nothing is ever exposed is wasting my time and money for the sake of their comfort.

Here's my tip. Find a top notch provider who gives an awesome massage plus HR. If. For some reason. You want to experience a "legit" massage, tell her to skip the HE. Don't waste your hard earned money on legit massages. It makes no sense.

[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;2625307]EPs are notoriously YMMV. If you haven't learned that by now you are not paying attention. There are plenty of situations where people get shot down only to see that another person wasn't. This is the nature of the game. As hard as it is for people here to believe, a lot of these girls do very well for themselves simply providing a legit experience. I didn't believe it myself at first until I became close with one provider and she showed me. Do you realize that some older men will tip over a hundred dollars after a legit session? It's unreal.

Anyways, my point isn't that I alone have received something that nobody else has ever gotten but that most EP's are unwilling to do anything unless they have built a connection and simply expecting to receive what somebody has in their review is the wrong approach.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Datsurman;2625336]
Here's my tip. Find a top notch provider who gives an awesome massage plus HR. If. For some reason. You want to experience a "legit" massage, tell her to skip the HE. Don't waste your hard earned money on legit massages. It makes no sense.[/QUOTE]I pay 70 for a legit massage. No H. E. And that's fine with me. The girls at the place I go to really know how to give a great massage. So I wouldn't say it's a waste of money. I have my ATF for my playtime needs.