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I don't think getting bored means anything is wrong with you.

Just before lockdown I was dating a 24 year old stripper that I met on Tinder. Exactly why she bothered fucking me, I could not tell you. I'm sure I had a lot more in common with her typical client than with the younger, hotter guys she could easily have been dating instead. Maybe she wanted to play a long game, but just never got to the point where she tried to turn the corner and ask me for money. Who knows? Regardless, it was a lucky situation for me. She was a lot younger and hotter than I had any right to expect, without paying.

And yet, I got bored after a few months. She actually wasn't dumb, but she also wasn't especially bright. She had a lot of opinions on social topics that made me want to say: "Baby, please stop talking. " She meant well. She believed in the sort of idealistic shit that most people can only believe when they're young.

So, what did that leave for us to talk about? We didn't have any friends or work in common. I gave up on paying attention to pop culture a long time ago. I just cannot bring myself to care. Because of this, neither of us would understand each other's references. I found myself editing the things I was about to say, because I realized they were about things that happened decades before she was born, and she just wouldn't understand. It made conversation tiresome.

That relationship really made me feel the age gap. I don't think I realized how much people lean on small talk and shared popular culture. If you don't have any basic stuff in common with a girl, and you don't pay attention to the same news / gossip / memes, then conversation is hard. And then it's just sex, which is good until you get enough of it. And then you start looking for the next one.

It's vaginal attention deficit disorder. We all have it. I've almost NEVER gone beyond 3 visits with anyone except for a tiny handful of UTR's, and some contacts over the years. Even with a girlfriend I need to find a new nut about once every two weeks even if its something low end off of STG. Most of the time I leave moderately disappointed and the next day I can barely remember her face or even if I saw anyone.

[QUOTE=Sparkish;5317634]Can I just say, for me, when the boredom sets in. It's usually not sexual or physical boredom. It's just the company. I mean they don't suddenly become offensive either. It's just that girls, and maybe people in general, are actually quite boring in their twenties with their endless partying and their shitty fucking music, and their refusal to read anything longer than a goddamn tweet, and their "woe is me" whining. I don't see myself ever getting bored with putting my dick in the same pretty mouth over and over. It's the crap coming out of that mouth that drives me on to the next one.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sparkish;5317634]Can I just say, for me, when the boredom sets in. It's usually not sexual or physical boredom. It's just the company. I mean they don't suddenly become offensive either. It's just that girls, and maybe people in general, are actually quite boring in their twenties with their endless partying and their shitty fucking music, and their refusal to read anything longer than a goddamn tweet, and their "woe is me" whining. I don't see myself ever getting bored with putting my dick in the same pretty mouth over and over. It's the crap coming out of that mouth that drives me on to the next one.[/QUOTE]I'm just a fucking W HORE and I love sex. I think women are beautiful creatures and I love sticking my dick in all three orifices' and want to do so with as many as I can.

It's not out of boredom, or because of anything they said or did. I just always move on to the next one because that's what us W HORE's do.

[QUOTE=ZoomLens2013;5317221]I've been with the same SB since early 2018. She was 18 when we met. She's not really the SB type, although she loved the idea of it. She had seen a few other guys while we were in our first few months, and I encouraged it, since I knew I would not be able to offer as much $ as she wanted. She eventually grew tired of the flakiness of the other guys and decided to "settle" on just one. Me. Although, it wasn't really settling for her. She developed feelings for me, which wasn't too surprising, considering that she openly admitted from the start that she has daddy issues. No worries, there. She's a good girl, super smart, accomplished, and she will go far. I enjoy her company and she's very attractive to me. There's definitely a maturity difference between us, but I've met 20-somethings who can't hold a candle to this girl in terms of intellect. We have great sex, and she's allowed her limits to be pushed along the way. I even get to go raw with her, which is a real treat, of course. Haha! She's getting close to being done with college and moving onto her graduate studies, and will likely have a full time job in the next month or two. That will cause our relationship to change, although she doesn't want to lose me. She'd marry me, if I left my wife, but a roughly 30 year age difference just isn't practical. I haven't paid her anything all year, because my business income has suffered for several months. She accepts that, but still wants me around. OK, no problem. I'm not a bad guy to be with.

Have I gotten bored, at times? Yes. I have run a premium membership on SA several times over this 3 year period. I've only slept with one other girl during this time, and I've had platonic lunch dates with a handful of others. It wasn't that I didn't desire to fuck other girls. I've just not found the same connection with anyone else and most of the girls are asking that high dollar amount that we're all seeing, so it just hasn't happened. The quality of these girls simply isn't what I experienced between 2014-2018 on SA. I didn't even find my current girl on SA, I found her on Ashley Madison, which is a sorry excuse for an affair dating website, by the way.

I don't know if this helps you much, but I figured I'd at least share about my "unicorn" experience.[/QUOTE]So what's the going rate for platonic lunch or dinner dates? I have thought about entertaining that approach?

[QUOTE=BudGreen;5317927]So what's the going rate for platonic lunch or dinner dates? I have thought about entertaining that approach?[/QUOTE]Most of my initial 'meet and greets' are for lunch, and I've already vetted them with extensive pics, so MOST of the time, I know it's someone I want to meet. That being said, I will treat them to lunch, but unless something else happens after, or the date is extended, I don't give them anything else. If the date goes well and it's someone I want to see, and they want to see me, we negotiate terms for future dates. And sometimes yes, it happens right then. Sometimes not Just depends on the girl.

Any intel on this one? Comms have been pretty good but she refuses to meet once in public first which is a red flag for me.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7b005195-31c8-467b-9c39-d3a1c4b0bf62[/URL]

Another waste of time. She responded with a message about sending her my contact info so should could send info on how to join her "Events Party Group". Used to run into this a lot back in the day on Ashley Madison. First time SA, it is just not what it used to be, but still the best site I have found.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/8a393c6a-7524-4506-89b1-fac6e19cf630[/URL]

All -- I hate to add to the chorus of negativity about the slim pickin's on SA, but damn -- I have been a member off and on for 15 years or so, and this is the biggest drought I have gone through. Don't get me wrong -- I still think it's the best site of it's type -- but the quality of SB's seems to really have dropped. No replies, no shows at scheduled meetings, ghosting, tons of unattractive ladies, etc. But I'll keep plowing along and hope for the best. Do you think that all the gov't-issued stimulus checks -- which is making it hard for restaurants and retail stores to find help for open positions -- is also keeping potential SB's off the market?

[QUOTE=KDoogie;5319754]All -- I hate to add to the chorus of negativity about the slim pickin's on SA, but damn -- I have been a member off and on for 15 years or so, and this is the biggest drought I have gone through. Don't get me wrong -- I still think it's the best site of it's type -- but the quality of SB's seems to really have dropped. No replies, no shows at scheduled meetings, ghosting, tons of unattractive ladies, etc. But I'll keep plowing along and hope for the best. Do you think that all the gov't-issued stimulus checks -- which is making it hard for restaurants and retail stores to find help for open positions -- is also keeping potential SB's off the market?[/QUOTE]Like you, I've been on / off SA (and all the others) for 15+ years. Obviously if they're able to lay up and do nothing, get $3200+ in stimulus money, and $600 a week in unemployment for a while vs working or sugaring, some will choose the easy / lazy path. But that incentive is drying up. I think the bigger culprit is * and other venues for selling their pics & vids. While most don't make all that much with that, the few really successful ones inspire the others (and the lower quality girls) to try. SA has apparently not bothered policing those online-virtual only arrangement seekers like they used to. So it equates to more work, time, etc to find fewer SB's to have fun with.

[QUOTE=Fishguy717;5318493]Most of my initial 'meet and greets' are for lunch, and I've already vetted them with extensive pics, so MOST of the time, I know it's someone I want to meet. That being said, I will treat them to lunch, but unless something else happens after, or the date is extended, I don't give them anything else. If the date goes well and it's someone I want to see, and they want to see me, we negotiate terms for future dates. And sometimes yes, it happens right then. Sometimes not Just depends on the girl.[/QUOTE]I have tried that but found myself wasting a lot of time just getting them to keep the date or a ton of cancelations some of the best SB I have had started with $100 but when you factor in that dinner / lunch allowance I'm better off on EROS so I haven't been doing meet and greets but have learned quickly when you just show up to their place you might not always like what you see.

[QUOTE=DiscreetFun306;5318851]Any intel on this one? Comms have been pretty good but she refuses to meet once in public first which is a red flag for me.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7b005195-31c8-467b-9c39-d3a1c4b0bf62[/URL][/QUOTE]Most of the girls I have met this past year do not do public meets they prefer discretion and would rather have the cash than the food. I enjoy dining just don't think I should have to pay for it.

[QUOTE=Fishguy717;5318493]Most of my initial 'meet and greets' are for lunch, and I've already vetted them with extensive pics, so MOST of the time, I know it's someone I want to meet. That being said, I will treat them to lunch, but unless something else happens after, or the date is extended, I don't give them anything else. If the date goes well and it's someone I want to see, and they want to see me, we negotiate terms for future dates. And sometimes yes, it happens right then. Sometimes not Just depends on the girl.[/QUOTE]My initial 'meet and greets' are similar. I like to meet for a coffee or drink first to make sure we are both comfortable with each other and want to move forward with an arrangement. The allowance does not start until the fun starts. Sometimes than can happen as soon as we are done with the meet and greet, sometimes it is the next meeting.

[QUOTE=BudGreen;5320214]Most of the girls I have met this past year do not do public meets they prefer discretion and would rather have the cash than the food. I enjoy dining just don't think I should have to pay for it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. I have had good success with just a coffee or drink for the first meet. I really like that first meet in public to make sure it is a good fit. It has been my experience in the past if I have her come straight to my hotel room for the first meet she is not what I am expecting and then things can get a little awkward.

[QUOTE=HoosierDaddy69;5320035]Like you, I've been on / off SA (and all the others) for 15+ years. Obviously if they're able to lay up and do nothing, get $3200+ in stimulus money, and $600 a week in unemployment for a while vs working or sugaring, some will choose the easy / lazy path. But that incentive is drying up. I think the bigger culprit is * and other venues for selling their pics & vids. While most don't make all that much with that, the few really successful ones inspire the others (and the lower quality girls) to try. SA has apparently not bothered policing those online-virtual only arrangement seekers like they used to. So it equates to more work, time, etc to find fewer SB's to have fun with.[/QUOTE]I agree but I also have seen multiple sites including SA and various SB forums where SD actually does fly SB in from all over the country because airline tickets are cheap. Trust me very few girls in the central United States will turn down an all-expense paid to central Florida most with a minimal allowance if anything other than a little spending money however at the very least a grand for a weekend probably longer. The marketing of SA makes it crystal clear a good SB should expect to make a couple hundred just for being herself and most SD are young studs who are in great shape own successful businesses and money is not a problem. They always do these interview pieces and the SB is always bragging about make 5 k a month. Many of the ones that sign up and disappear are doing so because they are looking for a rich husband. The overweight, average girl is the real target. LOL Has anyone flew someone in before?

Recently met a sexy 20 something I would to explore the possibility of an arrangement with. The problem is don't really know how to approach it. Any ideas? I absolutely don't want to offer too much too fast.