"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=JZLizard;3355634]Am I the only one that site won't load for?[/QUOTE][URL]http://predatorsalerts.com[/URL]

I typed it wrong, here is a link. When I searched my number about a week ago it this was first on search now down to page 2 .

[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3356024][URL]http://predatorsalerts.com[/URL]

I typed it wrong, here is a link. When I searched my number about a week ago it this was first on search now down to page 2 .[/QUOTE]That works. I'm just surprised it hasn't been reported as a revenge porn site and shut down yet.

Too many of those dudes are setting themselves up for trouble by sending dick pics. I assume most of these are gathered from the Craigslist and Tinder crowd rather than SA. Maybe I'm wrong, but if those are from SA, those guys should read this thread. I could have told them that no matter how strongly your opinion of yourself, nudes or dick pics might work on UTR sluts or for casual hookups, but they will repel most of the quality SBs, because it just portrays the SD as a run-of-the-mill perv. It's better to play the true dating angle where some things are left to their imagination. Most women do not find dick pics sexy, so if they respond positively to that they are probably escorts looking for a quick buck. Plus, it makes it more likely that the pics will end up on a site like the above.

JZL is probably right. Most of the pics were collected from sites like CL than SA. Also, clearly the revenue stream for PredatorAlerts is to sham the 'predators' and have them pay up to remove the 'dick' pics and other personally identifiable information. Another reason to maintain as much discretion possible while playing in the bowl.

[QUOTE=JZLizard;3356238]That works. I'm just surprised it hasn't been reported as a revenge porn site and shut down yet.

Too many of those dudes are setting themselves up for trouble by sending dick pics. I assume most of these are gathered from the Craigslist and Tinder crowd rather than SA. Maybe I'm wrong, but if those are from SA, those guys should read this thread. I could have told them that no matter how strongly your opinion of yourself, nudes or dick pics might work on UTR sluts or for casual hookups, but they will repel most of the quality SBs, because it just portrays the SD as a run-of-the-mill perv. It's better to play the true dating angle where some things are left to their imagination. Most women do not find dick pics sexy, so if they respond positively to that they are probably escorts looking for a quick buck. Plus, it makes it more likely that the pics will end up on a site like the above.[/QUOTE]

My info was from SA. Only place I used the pic that was posted. Whoever posted my info didn't get too far with me, as some 'real' SBs got real pics of me at some point.

I don't see where they are charging to remove the info. The exposing Johns website did that a few years ago and I think that's what got them in trouble and taken down. This new site is hiding behind the posts being from 'anonymous' posters.

My number isn't showing up on google searches now. They were down for a few weeks and I wonder if they had gotten in some type of trouble.

[QUOTE=Lebruno;3356487]JZL is probably right. Most of the pics were collected from sites like CL than SA. Also, clearly the revenue stream for PredatorAlerts is to sham the 'predators' and have them pay up to remove the 'dick' pics and other personally identifiable information. Another reason to maintain as much discretion possible while playing in the bowl.[/QUOTE]

I had some success w / a RB a while back, and now a couple of times we've exchanged texts. I'd love to do her again. I don't have a good excuse to get back to her city, even though its just a 1 hour flight. Has anyone had luck getting a RB to come to your territory, and if so what were the logistics?

One of the 18 yo babies that I've been texting with told me this morning that SA is requiring the babies to upload a pic of their photo ID to be accepted to the site. Looks like Brandon Wade is reacting to the BP shut down and the heightened human trafficking awareness.

Travelin.

So quick qn, how do you handle the usual few hours meet and agreed upon allowance vs. Overnight allowance negotiation. Usual meets were agreed for a set amount for few hours. Now, discussion is turned to potential overnight. SB want to almost double the allowance which was agreed for per meet. Do you all have different amounts, depending on the length of meet or hours?

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;3363017]One of the 18 yo babies that I've been texting with told me this morning that SA is requiring the babies to upload a pic of their photo ID to be accepted to the site. Looks like Brandon Wade is reacting to the BP shut down and the heightened human trafficking awareness.

Travelin.[/QUOTE]I think we'll see far far less 18 year olds on the site now. No way the smart ones will upload an I'd.

Maybe they'll list as 19 year olds!

[QUOTE=GeorgeRichmond;3363087]So quick qn, how do you handle the usual few hours meet and agreed upon allowance vs. Overnight allowance negotiation. Usual meets were agreed for a set amount for few hours. Now, discussion is turned to potential overnight. SB want to almost double the allowance which was agreed for per meet. Do you all have different amounts, depending on the length of meet or hours?[/QUOTE]Not the voice of experience here, w / a SO I can't really do overnights , but generally, I think you are playing the babies' game the more detail you get into regarding what you will pay for what she will do. Of course it's good to have some idea, but if all that is going on is $ and sex, you've got yourself an escort there, mister, not a SB. Just read the voluminous postings of JZlizard to learn all you'd ever need to know about this.

[QUOTE=BikeRider;3363121]I think we'll see far far less 18 year olds on the site now. No way the smart ones will upload an I'd.

Maybe they'll list as 19 year olds![/QUOTE]True, BR. My practice is to ask everyone listing as a teen if they can prove their age w / an "ID", and ideally they would be able to send a selfie w / their DL (thumb over the name if they want, but showing the photo and the birth date). This is essential to save your own ass. In some jurisdictions, having any discussion with someone not of legal age, online, concerning any sexual activity could be a crime.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3363148]Not the voice of experience here, w / a SO I can't really do overnights , but generally, I think you are playing the babies' game the more detail you get into regarding what you will pay for what she will do. Of course it's good to have some idea, but if all that is going on is $ and sex, you've got yourself an escort there, mister, not a SB. Just read the voluminous postings of JZlizard to learn all you'd ever need to know about this.[/QUOTE]I know I am dealing with an experienced SB. But only one that I have been seeing so far. I have enough details like FB, personal name, and others where I know who she is. Only thing. Is because of ITR nature. There is now time based bargain which was not happening. May be I should avoid this overnight. Which I never did it before. Wanted to experience it.

[QUOTE=GeorgeRichmond;3363087]So quick qn, how do you handle the usual few hours meet and agreed upon allowance vs. Overnight allowance negotiation. Usual meets were agreed for a set amount for few hours. Now, discussion is turned to potential overnight. SB want to almost double the allowance which was agreed for per meet. Do you all have different amounts, depending on the length of meet or hours?[/QUOTE]You have to have the discussion up front, otherwise the SB will upsell. Depending on what your number is for a meet, I would expect to pay a little more. If you are giving her the usual USAG rental rate of $- 5 then she deserves 50% to a double for her time. As always, game applies. I have had no problem getting ONs for $250 all day long, but the SB has to like being with you. Also it helps to offer a nice night out-dinner and drinks, then back to the hotel. Also many are not into being a sex doll for you to poke whenever your dick gets hard. It is the rare young girl who has the hots for banging us old men all night long.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3363001]I had some success w / a RB a while back, and now a couple of times we've exchanged texts. I'd love to do her again. I don't have a good excuse to get back to her city, even though its just a 1 hour flight. Has anyone had luck getting a RB to come to your territory, and if so what were the logistics?[/QUOTE]Pay their expenses depending on how far away to and from plus a room for however long they are staying. Or just ask her for flat rate which expect them to include those cost.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3363148]Not the voice of experience here, w / a SO I can't really do overnights , but generally, I think you are playing the babies' game the more detail you get into regarding what you will pay for what she will do. Of course it's good to have some idea, but if all that is going on is $ and sex, you've got yourself an escort there, mister, not a SB. Just read the voluminous postings of JZlizard to learn all you'd ever need to know about this.[/QUOTE]It takes a dedicated SD to get through my voluminous posts. LOL.

I'm probably not the right guy to comment on typical overnight arrangements. In my case, depending on circumstances, many (most even) of my SB dates do result in what could be considered an overnighter. There's a "date" portion of the evening that normally consists of dinner and drinks, maybe a club, then late night back at the FC. There is usually some sleeping for both of us before she goes home (usually daylight at the earliest). However, that it ends up like this is a result of the dating process itself and the fact that I only do this when I travel. It's similar to my civy dating experiences, after drinks they don't really want to risk driving home, and after some good fuck sessions it's natural to want to kick back and nap. This is my preferred type of date because I have a habit of waking up from a nap horny, and there's nothing like having a new hottie laying next to you when that happens.

Some guys meet girls for coffee then get a hotel in the afternoon -- I've thought about expanding to that territory but just haven't. I guess I'm used to the convenience of already being in a room, versus the hassle of finding / booking one. That, plus the fact I don't play close to home.

So, I've never negotiated an overnight SB or tried to pre-arrange it. I have been known to gift higher than my standard gift amt for a great SB that stays all night and does so simply because she's having fun --particularly if they went out of their way to meet me, drove long distances, took a day off school or work, etc. But it's not an amount that's agreed upon ahead of time.

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;3363017]One of the 18 yo babies that I've been texting with told me this morning that SA is requiring the babies to upload a pic of their photo ID to be accepted to the site. Looks like Brandon Wade is reacting to the BP shut down and the heightened human trafficking awareness.
[/QUOTE]It's a good thing if it saves the site and the lifestyle, but it's a bad thing in the sense it will scare some girls away and result in less to choose from. Would've been better if we could just separate the bowl from escorting. Oh well. At least it will reduce fake accounts of people just trolling for pics of dudes for the predators site and all that.

[QUOTE=BikeRider;3363121]I think we'll see far far less 18 year olds on the site now. No way the smart ones will upload an I'd.

Maybe they'll list as 19 year olds![/QUOTE]Hope I'm wrong but I read his message that they are requiring this regardless of age. I guess it's not as bad if it's limited to 18 year olds, but I'm sure they know that the same girls that would lie about being 18 will have no problem bumping their age up to whatever is needed to avoid the photo i d upload.

[QUOTE=JZLizard;3363485]It takes a dedicated SD to get through my voluminous posts. LOL.

I'm probably not the right guy to comment on typical overnight arrangements. In my case, depending on circumstances, many (most even) of my SB dates do result in what could be considered an overnighter. There's a "date" portion of the evening that normally consists of dinner and drinks, maybe a club, then late night back at the FC. There is usually some sleeping for both of us before she goes home (usually daylight at the earliest). However, that it ends up like this is a result of the dating process itself and the fact that I only do this when I travel. It's similar to my civy dating experiences, after drinks they don't really want to risk driving home, and after some good fuck sessions it's natural to want to kick back and nap. This is my preferred type of date because I have a habit of waking up from a nap horny, and there's nothing like having a new hottie laying next to you when that happens.

Some guys meet girls for coffee then get a hotel in the afternoon -- I've thought about expanding to that territory but just haven't. I guess I'm used to the convenience of already being in a room, versus the hassle of finding / booking one. That, plus the fact I don't play close to home.

So, I've never negotiated an overnight SB or tried to pre-arrange it. I have been known to gift higher than my standard gift amt for a great SB that stays all night and does so simply because she's having fun --particularly if they went out of their way to meet me, drove long distances, took a day off school or work, etc. But it's not an amount that's agreed upon ahead of time.[/QUOTE]My point was more about how you deal w / a SB, rather than the specific negotiations for the overnight. That you don't want to get into the weeds more than necessary about what your payin' for your playin' - if a guy begins thinking about what a girl's 'menu' is, he's truly dealing with an escort. Since you don't typically negotiate a sugar amount, you're likewise not negotiating specific acts.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3363620]My point was more about how you deal w / a SB, rather than the specific negotiations for the overnight. That you don't want to get into the weeds more than necessary about what your payin' for your playin' - if a guy begins thinking about what a girl's 'menu' is, he's truly dealing with an escort. Since you don't typically negotiate a sugar amount, you're likewise not negotiating specific acts.[/QUOTE]One issue I'm aware of, whenever I post info about my techniques, is that some of the tips are dependent on other aspects of my modus operandi. If certain boxes haven't been ticked, the tips I offer may not be applicable to every SD's situation. Like the overnight all you can eat buffet, it just tends to happen as a side effect of the wining and dining. As Fred pointed out a few posts back, if they are having a good time they won't want to go home yet and the whole act of negotiating is a non-issue. But, this probably doesn't help the guys who already have something going with an SB that's been limited to daytime romps, and he wants to do an overnighter for something different and is looking for a way to ask her about it. I don't have experience with that, but if it were me I would probably just throw the plan out there (when and where) without talking money. Then if she starts with "what will my allowance for that be". That probably won't happen unless that sort of conversation has been happening all along. If it did happen, I would probably just say something like "have I ever disappointed you before?" without talking numbers. I just don't like these paths of conversation, I don't think they benefit anyone and I don't think the SD should succumb to this.

I do stand by my belief that allowance details shouldn't be discussed until the last possible minute. Never in initial contact or via digital communication, at the very soonest in person at the M&G, and only if she's ready to proceed to the FC on the current date. And, if at all possible, best to not get into money discussions at all. That is one aspect of my methods that I don't think is dependent on anything else.

[QUOTE=JZLizard;3363689]. Then if she starts with "what will my allowance for that be". That probably won't happen unless that sort of conversation has been happening all along. If it did happen, I would probably just say something like "have I ever disappointed you before?" without talking numbers. I just don't like these paths of conversation, I don't think they benefit anyone and I don't think the SD should succumb to this.

I do stand by my belief that allowance details shouldn't be discussed until the last possible minute. Never in initial contact or via digital communication, at the very soonest in person at the M&G, and only if she's ready to proceed to the FC on the current date. And, if at all possible, best to not get into money discussions at all. That is one aspect of my methods that I don't think is dependent on anything else.[/QUOTE]Thanks both of you for giving perspective. In my case, the way my current SB is treating, I feel like she had calculated money to ask me for overnight. Well once I asked if she ever want to do overnight then let's go for it. Never talked about money. Now the demand looks as if it is like escort asking me specific amount. I am not happy about that part. ! Have not responded to SB but thinking about sending a reply.

[QUOTE=GeorgeRichmond;3363754]Thanks both of you for giving perspective. In my case, the way my current SB is treating, I feel like she had calculated money to ask me for overnight. Well once I asked if she ever want to do overnight then let's go for it. Never talked about money. Now the demand looks as if it is like escort asking me specific amount. I am not happy about that part. ! Have not responded to SB but thinking about sending a reply.[/QUOTE]Whenever things take a turn that looks like the SB is trying to get the upper hand, I usually just back away a bit; sometimes no contact sends a stronger message than anything I could say. Most of the time, the result is that she parks the high horse and comes back with a different attitude sooner or later, because she realized her test didn't work. And what does she have to lose if it did fail? If I understand your activities to date, she already regards you (at the bare minimum) as a regular and dependable SD (and might regard you as much more). It takes time an effort for her to find one, so she after she gives it some thought she might realize that unlike "normal" dating at her age where she's probably used to having the advantage, in the bowl it's a man's world and the SD has the advantage. Maybe she'll drop the attitude and do the overnighter without much extra demand just to keep from losing a regular SD. You could always emphasize that you're "really looking for someone who can do overnights" without directly indicating if she's going to upsell then you'll find someone else easier to deal with.

[QUOTE=JZLizard;3363502]Hope I'm wrong but I read his message that they are requiring this regardless of age. I guess it's not as bad if it's limited to 18 year olds, but I'm sure they know that the same girls that would lie about being 18 will have no problem bumping their age up to whatever is needed to avoid the photo i d upload.[/QUOTE]I've not heard of anyone else saying SA has asked for I'd. So, I suspect they've gone after the 18 year olds. Perhaps the 19's as well, but I don't believe it is wholesale.

[QUOTE=BikeRider;3363927]I've not heard of anyone else saying SA has asked for I'd. So, I suspect they've gone after the 18 year olds. Perhaps the 19's as well, but I don't believe it is wholesale.[/QUOTE]I did talk to another former SB friend today who is a 30 year old and a premium member on the site through a college email. She said she hasn't heard anything about that. Maybe it depends on how long you've been on the site and what your credentials are. I've never registered as a female, so I'm not sure what all they ask. I know others on here have done that.

Travelin.

[QUOTE=GeorgeRichmond;3363087]So quick qn, how do you handle the usual few hours meet and agreed upon allowance vs. Overnight allowance negotiation. Usual meets were agreed for a set amount for few hours. Now, discussion is turned to potential overnight. SB want to almost double the allowance which was agreed for per meet. Do you all have different amounts, depending on the length of meet or hours?[/QUOTE]I have had O/Ns with 4 different SBs since I got into the bowl in the summer of 2015. Actually my very first time in the FC with an SB was an O/N - we had such a good time in the afternoon and early evening that I suggested / proposed the O/N as a "second visit". (2 times 150). The next O/N was with my # 1 in early 2016, I suggested we double the 150. But by last summer I had upgraded my budget to 200 for my # 1 at the time but by then was no longer having conversations about $ with any of my POTs and SBs (thanks Jeez). I decided to go with 300 for her. This past December I had on O/N with my # 1 and instead of increasing the 200 I instead took her Christmas (clothes) shopping the next morning and gave her a 200 visa gift card, which I would have done anyhow even without the O/N. For a planned overnight I always pick a slightly nicer hotel and a dinner at a restaurant. That being said I don't intend to ever go over 300, so the formula for me happens to be 1. 5 times the normal gift. Personally I try to do something extra to let the SB know that it is a special date. All four of these girls were in the 18 -21 range so for an older guy like me it was special.

[QUOTE=JZLizard;3363813]Whenever things take a turn that looks like the SB is trying to get the upper hand, I usually just back away a bit; sometimes no contact sends a stronger message than anything I could say. Most of the time, the result is that she parks the high horse and comes back with a different attitude sooner or later, because she realized her test didn't work. And what does she have to lose if it did fail? If I understand your activities to date, she already regards you (at the bare minimum) as a regular and dependable SD (and might regard you as much more). It takes time an effort for her to find one, so she after she gives it some thought she might realize that unlike "normal" dating at her age where she's probably used to having the advantage, in the bowl it's a man's world and the SD has the advantage. Maybe she'll drop the attitude and do the overnighter without much extra demand just to keep from losing a regular SD. You could always emphasize that you're "really looking for someone who can do overnights" without directly indicating if she's going to upsell then you'll find someone else easier to deal with.[/QUOTE]Good advise. Thanks for it. I like it and I know I read everything that has been posted here. But don't remember it. So sorry for the potential repeat scenario here. I am going to not respond it! Yes she looks at me as dependable SD. So I will wait and let her realize it more than anything. I may look at POT B. Which is in baking. As fall back.

I wonder if it could be part of the approval process. If they suspect a girl may be under age, they may request age verification with an I'd. I have noticed that it seems to take longer for the younger ones to have their profiles and pics approved.

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;3363979]I did talk to another former SB friend today who is a 30 year old and a premium member on the site through a college email. She said she hasn't heard anything about that. Maybe it depends on how long you've been on the site and what your credentials are. I've never registered as a female, so I'm not sure what all they ask. I know others on here have done that.

Travelin.[/QUOTE]

I've done mostly overnights, but I've never discussed it before hand and I've almost never discussed dollars or time.

I gravitate towards the girls that are uncomfortable thinking of themselves as a sex worker. We never discuss money, but I just slip them something at the end. Occasionally, I've even had a girl insulted by my offer to give them any money and a couple of times I've had a girl turn GPS at the end expecting 3 x my offer.

It usually works just fine for me.

[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3364013]I have had O/Ns with 4 different SBs since I got into the bowl in the summer of 2015. Actually my very first time in the FC with an SB was an O/N - we had such a good time in the afternoon and early evening that I suggested / proposed the O/N as a "second visit". (2 times 150). The next O/N was with my # 1 in early 2016, I suggested we double the 150. But by last summer I had upgraded my budget to 200 for my # 1 at the time but by then was no longer having conversations about $ with any of my POTs and SBs (thanks Jeez). I decided to go with 300 for her. This past December I had on O/N with my # 1 and instead of increasing the 200 I instead took her Christmas (clothes) shopping the next morning and gave her a 200 visa gift card, which I would have done anyhow even without the O/N. For a planned overnight I always pick a slightly nicer hotel and a dinner at a restaurant. That being said I don't intend to ever go over 300, so the formula for me happens to be 1. 5 times the normal gift. Personally I try to do something extra to let the SB know that it is a special date. All four of these girls were in the 18 -21 range so for an older guy like me it was special.[/QUOTE]

When I'm on the road, most of my babies will spend the night just as a matter of course. I might say something like "pack an overnight bag" or "I'll buy us breakfast" but I just behave as if that's the norm and go from there. And yes, there's nothing nicer than waking up next to a hot young baby in the morning, or even in the middle of the night!

Back home, whenever my SO is traveling for work, I spend the night with one of my two long-term babies. In all instances, I've never given any of them more than the usual gift, and it's never come up. In truth, I've never considered it as an option.

As for giving them a little distance to make the heart grow fonder, I can attest to the effectiveness of that. I've been crazy busy at work the past month or so, and both my SBs have gotten more and more affectionate in their texts to me. Kinda nice, actually haha!

Keep up the good work my brothers.

Scott.

[QUOTE=FScott;3364412]When I'm on the road, most of my babies will spend the night just as a matter of course. I might say something like "pack an overnight bag" or "I'll buy us breakfast" but I just behave as if that's the norm and go from there. And yes, there's nothing nicer than waking up next to a hot young baby in the morning, or even in the middle of the night!

Back home, whenever my SO is traveling for work, I spend the night with one of my two long-term babies. In all instances, I've never given any of them more than the usual gift, and it's never come up. In truth, I've never considered it as an option.

As for giving them a little distance to make the heart grow fonder, I can attest to the effectiveness of that. I've been crazy busy at work the past month or so, and both my SBs have gotten more and more affectionate in their texts to me. Kinda nice, actually haha!

Keep up the good work my brothers.

Scott.[/QUOTE]I had a long term SB that would send sweet messages and pics if it had been a while like a month w / o seeing her. Bottom line is she was only sweet like that when she needed the $. It kind of pissed me off actually and I confronted her kind of laughing to myself that you really miss me messages are a load of crap and they have the opposite affect on me. I'd rather them say, hey can we meet, I have bills to pay and I haven't see you in a while. At least that would be honest.

I just stumbled upon this article, in response to the following experience. I was looking for an inexpensive room on a day it seems every hotel's price is sky-high. I was given a reasonable rate for a Hilton Garden Inn, but then noted it was a 'day use' rate, which they define as 10 am - 4 pm. I guess based on the article I must have gotten this by putting the same day as checkin and checkout. It wasn't that much cheaper than overnight, but it was cheaper, and it does have that otherwise very difficult to achieve mid-day room. And, they say that essentially any Hilton is available under these limits. So, if you don't want a dive for the FC and you're trying to play in the bowl during the day (SO situation), this might work for you.

[URL]http://travelupdate.boardingarea.com/booking-day-use-rooms-hilton/[/URL]

[QUOTE=DragginHoo;3364455]I had a long term SB that would send sweet messages and pics if it had been a while like a month w / o seeing her. Bottom line is she was only sweet like that when she needed the $. It kind of pissed me off actually and I confronted her kind of laughing to myself that you really miss me messages are a load of crap and they have the opposite affect on me. I'd rather them say, hey can we meet, I have bills to pay and I haven't see you in a while. At least that would be honest.[/QUOTE]As I said in an earlier post, we all seem to find our own personal Bowl. To each hammer his own kind of nail.

Scott.

Interesting find. Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3364991]I just stumbled upon this article, in response to the following experience. I was looking for an inexpensive room on a day it seems every hotel's price is sky-high. I was given a reasonable rate for a Hilton Garden Inn, but then noted it was a 'day use' rate, which they define as 10 am - 4 pm. I guess based on the article I must have gotten this by putting the same day as checkin and checkout. It wasn't that much cheaper than overnight, but it was cheaper, and it does have that otherwise very difficult to achieve mid-day room. And, they say that essentially any Hilton is available under these limits. So, if you don't want a dive for the FC and you're trying to play in the bowl during the day (SO situation), this might work for you.

[URL]http://travelupdate.boardingarea.com/booking-day-use-rooms-hilton/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;3363017]One of the 18 yo babies that I've been texting with told me this morning that SA is requiring the babies to upload a pic of their photo ID to be accepted to the site. Looks like Brandon Wade is reacting to the BP shut down and the heightened human trafficking awareness.

Travelin.[/QUOTE]I think Brandon Wade is reacting more to the fact that his website is in the news for enabling adult men to meet and have sex with underage girls. These were recent news articles:

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/53-year-old-used-sugar-daddy-website-to-meet-teen-for-sex-prosecutors-say/2017/03/29/ca6bc3da-148d-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html[/URL]

[URL]http://kxan.com/2016/12/20/man-charged-with-sex-trafficking-an-austin-teen/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/girl-of-15-on-sugar-daddy-site-5602zrxmf[/URL]

About a month ago, I commented how there were 18-19 year olds on the website with profiles that have join dates that were several years prior. There is an obvious problem of girls signing up for the site underage, and it's nice to see SA being proactive about stopping it before more shit hits the fan.

SDX.

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3364262]I've done mostly overnights, but I've never discussed it before hand and I've almost never discussed dollars or time.

I gravitate towards the girls that are uncomfortable thinking of themselves as a sex worker. We never discuss money, but I just slip them something at the end. Occasionally, I've even had a girl insulted by my offer to give them any money and a couple of times I've had a girl turn GPS at the end expecting 3 x my offer.

It usually works just fine for me.[/QUOTE]My SB asked me double the allowance for ON. I have not replied to that message yet as I was not expecting SB to come and demand. Actually I am disappointed because of that. SB sent few messages but I have not responded. Hope SB gets the message. Wondering if I should tell SB that I am disappointed with specific ask. Or I should say. I would have given some extra but not this specific increase.

[QUOTE=GeorgeRichmond;3366112]My SB asked me double the allowance for ON. I have not replied to that message yet as I was not expecting SB to come and demand. Actually I am disappointed because of that. SB sent few messages but I have not responded. Hope SB gets the message. Wondering if I should tell SB that I am disappointed with specific ask. Or I should say. I would have given some extra but not this specific increase.[/QUOTE]My SB brought up the overnight stay and never mentioned any money beyond the $$ I was already paying for 2 to 3 hours in a hotel room. Hasn't complained and we have done more overnights as our opportunities allowed for it. All depends on the motivation. Money or just wanting the "cuddling" aspect of an overnight.

I have been texting with this girl who calls herself Summer. She has a profile on SB. Anyone know her? She was very quick to tell me what she wanted. Good location for me too. PM me please.

This is awfully general I know, but I just got a new smart burner I like. It's a tracfone alcatel pixi something or other. It runs Android. I sent my candybar phone off to retirement, very tired of not being able to type or see pix. The new one is rather small, about the size of a playing card, and pretty thin; not as small as the candybar, but still easy to stash where I used to stash the candybar. Cost $30 at Walmart. Pay cash, of course. You can top up tracfones w / cards from any convenience store or drug store. For those of us w / SOs, it's essential to have no traces of such happenings.

The smartphone is just crucial for texting, which is crucial for getting the youngest SBs. It's really their preferred way to communicate - many don't have (public) email. I have a couple of other tricks involving taking pix of stuff and sending it to babies I can now do. I also have girls giving me their snapchats and kiks, things I would *never* install on my regular phone. Too risky. It's also convenient for other apps people are using these days. Whisper, GV, etc. You can have your full sugar alter ego on that phone and never worry about crossover to real life.

[QUOTE=FreeBooter;3369814]I have been texting with this girl who calls herself Summer. She has a profile on SB. Anyone know her? She was very quick to tell me what she wanted. Good location for me too. PM me please.[/QUOTE]She tried to blackmail me after we met at my hotel. Search my posts and you will find out that you need to stay the F away from her. If you still don't want to listen, be forewarned that she is about 50 lbs heavier than her pics. Talks a good game but then the next day she started blowing up my phone and knew my real name and where I was from. Scared the F outta me. But after I cut off all comms, nothing further for about 6 weeks now. Finally starting to breathe a sigh of relief.

[QUOTE=FigLeaf;3370414]She tried to blackmail me after we met at my hotel. Search my posts and you will find out that you need to stay the F away from her. If you still don't want to listen, be forewarned that she is about 50 lbs heavier than her pics. Talks a good game but then the next day she started blowing up my phone and knew my real name and where I was from. Scared the F outta me. But after I cut off all comms, nothing further for about 6 weeks now. Finally starting to breathe a sigh of relief.[/QUOTE]Wow what a post, She was coming down to Suffolk on a regular basis and I was working in the area. We tried to meet up several times but it never worked out. I figured she would be heavier from the strategic posing but the Blackmail angle blows my mind. Glad it didn't work out. And yes she did talk a good game.

RBD out.

[QUOTE=RedBaronDaron;3370510]Wow what a post, She was coming down to Suffolk on a regular basis and I was working in the area. We tried to meet up several times but it never worked out. I figured she would be heavier from the strategic posing but the Blackmail angle blows my mind. Glad it didn't work out. And yes she did talk a good game.

RBD out.[/QUOTE]This is what is so great about this forum. Sharing information. Whether it is good or bad sharing information is the key to this way of life.

[QUOTE=FigLeaf;3370414]She tried to blackmail me after we met at my hotel. Search my posts and you will find out that you need to stay the F away from her. If you still don't want to listen, be forewarned that she is about 50 lbs heavier than her pics. Talks a good game but then the next day she started blowing up my phone and knew my real name and where I was from. Scared the F outta me. But after I cut off all comms, nothing further for about 6 weeks now. Finally starting to breathe a sigh of relief.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the warning. I got a strange vibe from her and thought she might be LE at first. I told her we could meet for lunch first and she blew me off. Strike one in my book. I never contacted her back. I'll block her number.

FB.