[QUOTE=JuanDick865;6260057]Wanting a young petite female for Christmas, if anyone has someone in mind, please message me. Thanks JD.[/QUOTE]Chicago is in order then. Cause ain't none of those here.
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[QUOTE=JuanDick865;6260057]Wanting a young petite female for Christmas, if anyone has someone in mind, please message me. Thanks JD.[/QUOTE]Chicago is in order then. Cause ain't none of those here.
Hey guys Dee needs some help. Please text her four two three five eight two eight nine nine five. She is available all day today and tonight.
[QUOTE=LuvSpinners41;6260333]Brother you have a better chance of seeing Big foot riding a unicorn than you do finding a petite young thing on here or STG! Even the UTR recommendations end up being big girls. It would be different if they were thick in a good way, but they never are![/QUOTE]I saw the weirdest thing earlier. Damn Sasquatch wearing a Santa Claus suit riding a unicorn down Kingston Pike. Even weirder, this scene was framed by a collection of swine floating around on angel wings. The Loch Ness monster was doing crowd control. I also see on the news that Arkansas (aka hell for anyone with an IQ over 70) is supposed to freeze over tonight.
Still no sight of a skinny, attractive girl here or on STG though. We are however blessed with a bevy of morbidly obese creatures of a bovine appearance who are claiming to be women. On the upside, saving so much money I can probably retire a year earlier.
[QUOTE=AcquaDeJim;6265824]I saw the weirdest thing earlier. Damn Sasquatch wearing a Santa Claus suit riding a unicorn down Kingston Pike. Even weirder, this scene was framed by a collection of swine floating around on angel wings. The Loch Ness monster was doing crowd control. I also see on the news that Arkansas (aka hell for anyone with an IQ over 70) is supposed to freeze over tonight.
Still no sight of a skinny, attractive girl here or on STG though. We are however blessed with a bevy of morbidly obese creatures of a bovine appearance who are claiming to be women. On the upside, saving so much money I can probably retire a year earlier.[/QUOTE]I track all my expenses to the penny, some might say I'm OCD when it comes to it. I have a special category for hobby expenses, even broken down to fees for service provided, hotel expense, and sugar dating expenses, ie dinner dates, etc. For obvious reasons I have named this category in a way that nobody would ever figure it out. Anyway, my 2018 expenses were the highest and have gone down since then. The difference between 2018 and 2022 is significant. I'm not trying to save money, just nowhere to spend it, or at least spend it in a way that makes me happy.
Listen, I know this is a stupid question, they are all difficult to get in touch with, but has anyone had issues communicating with Ivy. We have met in the past but I have tried multiple times to get in touch and never even get a reply. We have always parted on good terms. Just curious? Looking for tomm if anyone has anything they recommend. Merry Christmas!
Shit is just plain funny to me.
[QUOTE=SerenityNow1;6265854]I track all my expenses to the penny, some might say I'm OCD when it comes to it. I have a special category for hobby expenses, even broken down to fees for service provided, hotel expense, and sugar dating expenses, ie dinner dates, etc. For obvious reasons I have named this category in a way that nobody would ever figure it out. Anyway, my 2018 expenses were the highest and have gone down since then. The difference between 2018 and 2022 is significant. I'm not trying to save money, just nowhere to spend it, or at least spend it in a way that makes me happy.[/QUOTE]Oddly enough, I keep pretty detailed records also.
2020 was my high point I think. Without adjusting for inflation and all that fun stuff anyway. I was a busy busy boy that year. Banging like a screen door from the looks of things.
A few Ho Ho Ho photos for the holidays.
All where SA girls at one time or another.
[QUOTE=Skboy;6267985]A few Ho Ho Ho photos for the holidays.
All where SA girls at one time or another.[/QUOTE]Thank you esteemed Skboy. You never disappoint with the pics. I recall one of those SA gals was a lot of fun, no limits to her approach.
Happy hunting. ,. ,. ,
Milfman.
[QUOTE=Skboy;6267985]A few Ho Ho Ho photos for the holidays.
All where SA girls at one time or another.[/QUOTE]Damn, the girl in the 2nd & 3rd pic is FINE AS HELL!
Going into the New Year, I thought it might be good for all of us to consider rates for 2023. I know we all have different likes and budgets, but there is consistent talk here about overpriced and GPS girls in Knoxville. That being said, would it not be good for the game if we gave our thoughts on reasonable rates for categories we play in? (ie; SA girls, stg, utr, etc.) Think of it as a recalibration led by the consumers. That is a powerful thought is it not?
For Love Of The Game!
[QUOTE=JoeKnox555;6268972]Going into the New Year, I thought it might be good for all of us to consider rates for 2023. I know we all have different likes and budgets, but there is consistent talk here about overpriced and GPS girls in Knoxville. That being said, would it not be good for the game if we gave our thoughts on reasonable rates for categories we play in? (ie; SA girls, stg, utr, etc.) Think of it as a recalibration led by the consumers. That is a powerful thought is it not?
For Love Of The Game![/QUOTE]Chicks that no puta was worth 250. Bucks. The really don't like that much. I told the blonde with her rates. Lindsey I believe is her name and told the one that scammed the guy who reported some guy busted in. He should've put the safety lock on the door.
[QUOTE=ColdFusion2500;6269010]Chicks that no puta was worth 250. Bucks. The really don't like that much. I told the blonde with her rates. Lindsey I believe is her name and told the one that scammed the guy who reported some guy busted in. He should've put the safety lock on the door.[/QUOTE]Not exactly the kind of conversation I envisioned with my original post.
Going into the New Year, I thought it might be good for all of us to consider rates for 2023. I know we all have different likes and budgets, but there is consistent talk here about overpriced and GPS girls in Knoxville. That being said, would it not be good for the game if we gave our thoughts on reasonable rates for categories we play in? (ie; SA girls, stg, utr, etc.) Think of it as a recalibration led by the consumers. That is a powerful thought is it not?
For Love Of The Game!
[QUOTE=JoeKnox555;6271662]Going into the New Year, I thought it might be good for all of us to consider rates for 2023. I know we all have different likes and budgets, but there is consistent talk here about overpriced and GPS girls in Knoxville. That being said, would it not be good for the game if we gave our thoughts on reasonable rates for categories we play in? (ie; SA girls, stg, utr, etc.) Think of it as a recalibration led by the consumers. That is a powerful thought is it not?
For Love Of The Game![/QUOTE]I appreciate what you are trying to do here man, but to be blunt it's a lost battle by this point.
Amusing part is that it was not necessarily the girls that jacked up the prices on their own-it was other guys. Mongers throwing around money trying to pretend they are two week billionaires or whatever has pretty much ruined most of the mongering destinations on earth. No great miracle that it has finally spread its way to Knoxville. One guy throws them an extra $40 for a tip or whatever and they start wanting it from everyone. Eventually, they just incorporate that into the "price".
Only way to win that game is by not playing.
Also remember, this board and all the others only make up about 20 % of the market. Even if you got everybody here on board, it's only a drip in the bucket.
For what it's worth-my upper limit for a STG girl is $80. I don't budge. I don't stop at the gas station and do your shopping for you either. Take it or I stay at home.
[QUOTE=AcquaDeJim;6271699]I appreciate what you are trying to do here man, but to be blunt it's a lost battle by this point.
Amusing part is that it was not necessarily the girls that jacked up the prices on their own-it was other guys. Mongers throwing around money trying to pretend they are two week billionaires or whatever has pretty much ruined most of the mongering destinations on earth. No great miracle that it has finally spread its way to Knoxville. One guy throws them an extra $40 for a tip or whatever and they start wanting it from everyone. Eventually, they just incorporate that into the "price".
Only way to win that game is by not playing.
Also remember, this board and all the others only make up about 20 % of the market. Even if you got everybody here on board, it's only a drip in the bucket.
For what it's worth-my upper limit for a STG girl is $80. I don't budge. I don't stop at the gas station and do your shopping for you either. Take it or I stay at home.[/QUOTE]You're not wrong. My hope was to bring "some balance to the force. " If guys are honest about what they are investing in their area on the game, perhaps those who are thinking with there little head might see they are throwing some $ away. It really is to get a reference of a median investment into what area we each enjoy playing. I am particularly interested in what folks invest in a SB arrangement. But it would be helpful for all areas of mongering.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/brooke572[/URL]
This lady is planning to visit Knoxville next week. If you are like a mature, sane and skilled woman take a look. She will be putting a traveling ad on tryst shortly.
I haven't been on here much lately. Has Hawaiian Marie retired?
Met up with the one and only Britt recently. Lovely as always.
[QUOTE=SkyDog75;6277007][URL]https://tryst.link/escort/brooke572[/URL]
This lady is planning to visit Knoxville next week. If you are like a mature, sane and skilled woman take a look. She will be putting a traveling ad on tryst shortly.[/QUOTE]Self-promotion perhaps?
In his dream Mercedes is a very sweet ride and gives an outstanding BBBJ and her kitty is extremely tight.
Looks like uncle arrested a lady for peddling her wares. First time I have seen somebody arrested with that specific charge in quite a while. JML. Anybody know her? Guessing maybe street girl?
[QUOTE=AcquaDeJim;6281847]Looks like uncle arrested a lady for peddling her wares. First time I have seen somebody arrested with that specific charge in quite a while. JML. Anybody know her? Guessing maybe street girl?[/QUOTE]I was just thinking the other day that it's been a while since I've seen a charge like that. Cleaner look than any street walker I've seen.
[QUOTE=JoeKnox555;6268972]Going into the New Year, I thought it might be good for all of us to consider rates for 2023. I know we all have different likes and budgets, but there is consistent talk here about overpriced and GPS girls in Knoxville. That being said, would it not be good for the game if we gave our thoughts on reasonable rates for categories we play in? (ie; SA girls, stg, utr, etc.) Think of it as a recalibration led by the consumers. That is a powerful thought is it not?
For Love Of The Game![/QUOTE]For a bit of nostalgia, when the USA Adult Classifieds was an invaluable ad resource up to May 2020. This is a rate guide that I collected informally by surveying providers who advertised there. The average half hour rate was 120 and full hour rate was 175 (the QV rate was not captured). The most common provider requests were 100 for half hour and 200 for full hour. It's a small trip down the rate memory lane.
Happy hunting. ,. ,. ,. ,
Milfman.
[QUOTE=AcquaDeJim;6271699]For what it's worth-my upper limit for a STG girl is $80. I don't budge. I don't stop at the gas station and do your shopping for you either. Take it or I stay at home.[/QUOTE]Do you negotiate? For me, if they post a price and it is equal to the offering I go with that or move on. What I am not doing is haggling and I am very experienced in haggling because I feel even if you work down the price they just reduce the offering. Better to move on to another offering and not create a sullen date or use a different location with more competition.
Maybe I have been doing it wrong? Maybe I am denying my value as a monger to play into the value equation and I have been denying providers with another signal that they are not the worth what they are posting. Or I need counter offer on the time, offering, ect. I'd like to hear how many of you haggle vs. How many move demand away to another provider or service type.
[QUOTE=MilfMan865;6281988]For a bit of nostalgia, when the USA Adult Classifieds was an invaluable ad resource up to May 2020. This is a rate guide that I collected informally by surveying providers who advertised there. The average half hour rate was 120 and full hour rate was 175 (the QV rate was not captured). The most common provider requests were 100 for half hour and 200 for full hour. It's a small trip down the rate memory lane.
Happy hunting. ,. ,. ,. ,
Milfman.[/QUOTE]On that pic of the high end, who is above CC and to the left of Torri? Looks familiar and can't tell exactly who it is.
[QUOTE=DrJack51;6282357]On that pic of the high end, who is above CC and to the left of Torri? Looks familiar and can't tell exactly who it is.[/QUOTE]That higher-end rate would be "Sabrina/SabrinaKnox". I used to see her for 100 .,.,.,., unlimited time, including hanging out in downtown Knoxville, when she was on SA before going mainstream (she began demanding 250 for a single hour after going pro).
Happy hunting. ,. ,. ,. ,
Milfman.
[QUOTE=DosenJager;6281998]Do you negotiate? For me, if they post a price and it is equal to the offering I go with that or move on. What I am not doing is haggling and I am very experienced in haggling because I feel even if you work down the price they just reduce the offering. Better to move on to another offering and not create a sullen date or use a different location with more competition.
Maybe I have been doing it wrong? Maybe I am denying my value as a monger to play into the value equation and I have been denying providers with another signal that they are not the worth what they are posting. Or I need counter offer on the time, offering, ect. I'd like to hear how many of you haggle vs. How many move demand away to another provider or service type.[/QUOTE]Too many white Knights have catered to these providers, thinking they will get one up on the next man, when really, all he is doing is playing himself by being a providers lackey. We need to put the power back in our hands because we have the money. Look at these girls overall. . is anyone of them really worth $150/ hhr or $200/ hr? Contact them and offer them a more reasonable rate, and if they refuse, let them starve. They will eventually get desperate for their next fix and accept the offer. Too many guys have forgotten that in this game, money is king. That's why these girls are doing it, for the money. They either want what's being offered or they can go without. These prices are out of hand, its time for us to take control back. If not, prices are only going to get worse.
[QUOTE=DosenJager;6281998]Do you negotiate? For me, if they post a price and it is equal to the offering I go with that or move on. What I am not doing is haggling and I am very experienced in haggling because I feel even if you work down the price they just reduce the offering. Better to move on to another offering and not create a sullen date or use a different location with more competition.
Maybe I have been doing it wrong? Maybe I am denying my value as a monger to play into the value equation and I have been denying providers with another signal that they are not the worth what they are posting. Or I need counter offer on the time, offering, ect. I'd like to hear how many of you haggle vs. How many move demand away to another provider or service type.[/QUOTE]Honestly man, call it what you want. At least in my mind, "haggling" is not what I am doing. To me, I am simply making an offer. I do not low-ball the girls, I do not raise my offer, I simply make an offer. If it is accepted, great.
To be bluntly honest, initially I get laughed at or insulted about 50 percent of the time-initially. It's cool. My psyche is not one that gives much credence or weight to working girls trying to pry more money out of me.
Pretty much every time (with a few exceptions of course), I get a text within a day or two telling me my offer is Ok and asking when I can meet-for them preferably ASAP.
Once the deal is done, if it's worth repeating-that price is locked in with the provider for a while. Honestly, I haven't noticed any major differences in performance. Those who have done well are generally the ones who get good reviews from the rest of the board. Those who have half assed it are generally those who get poor reviews from other members also.
People paying whatever the girls ask is how we got in this mess of fat or otherwise defective girls demanding $120 for a half assed Qv. As I said in another post recently, I don't even blame the girls. Guys are the ones responsible for this point blank.
Could I pay them more without impacting me? Of course. Will I? Nope. Everything for me has a value. When that value is exceeded by the asking price, I simply don't buy. Very simple. If I am truly desperate, this is East TN. You can't throw a rock around here without hitting a larger girl in need of some loving. By that I mean girls who are by today's vernacular, a bit "thick". I don't mess around with true fat asses. Little charm can go a long way. Usually, they cook me a nice dinner. My "expenses" are more often than not gas to go there and back.
[QUOTE=Tommy5888;6281599]Met up with the one and only Britt recently. Lovely as always.[/QUOTE]Tommy, sent you a PM. Please LMK Thanks.
[QUOTE=Enigma2015;6282455]Too many white Knights have catered to these providers, thinking they will get one up on the next man, when really, all he is doing is playing himself by being a providers lackey. We need to put the power back in our hands because we have the money. Look at these girls overall. . is anyone of them really worth $150/ hhr or $200/ hr? Contact them and offer them a more reasonable rate, and if they refuse, let them starve. They will eventually get desperate for their next fix and accept the offer. Too many guys have forgotten that in this game, money is king. That's why these girls are doing it, for the money. They either want what's being offered or they can go without. These prices are out of hand, its time for us to take control back. If not, prices are only going to get worse.[/QUOTE]My personal opinion is I'm willing to pay more for quality. If girls who are missing teeth, over weight, & cracked out are charging 80-100 for a QV, then I actually feel like I'm getting a discount when I girl who is legitimately hot as hell only charges 120-140 for a qv. I've met girls that were NOT my type & felt like I over paid big time & I've met girls that are knockouts who only charge a little more & sometimes even less. I'm not very active in the hobby, but I feel the junkie girls getting too much just drives up the cost of the hot girls in the hobby.
[QUOTE=KnoxDiggler;6282731]My personal opinion is I'm willing to pay more for quality. If girls who are missing teeth, over weight, & cracked out are charging 80-100 for a QV, then I actually feel like I'm getting a discount when I girl who is legitimately hot as hell only charges 120-140 for a qv. I've met girls that were NOT my type & felt like I over paid big time & I've met girls that are knockouts who only charge a little more & sometimes even less. I'm not very active in the hobby, but I feel the junkie girls getting too much just drives up the cost of the hot girls in the hobby.[/QUOTE]Honestly man, I have mongered around the world. Probably including a few places most people never heard of.
Fifteen years ago, I coulda told you about any one of 100 cities around the world where a man could secure a knockout (by Knox standards) companion for the night for $20 or so plus a $10 tip in the morning if sbe knocked your socks off.
Cheap, clean hotel with AC for about the same price. Beers were like $1 or so. You literally could have an all night threesome with as many pops as you could muster and still spend under $100 a day including your hotel. Nowadays it's a different game. Go to those places today and you might get a quicky for $100. The cheap but effective hotels gone and replaced by $300/ night resorts. Why? I mean some of it is the passage of time, but most of it lies with the consumer. Guys were happy to play with a knockout for pennies, but things changed. People became more expecting and depending on luxury.
In the parlance of overseas mongering, you would be referred to as a "2 week millionaire". Somebody who wants EXACTLY what you want-damn the price. It's cool, I get it. You have a great trip, go back the next year and the prices are like 50% more and so on and so forth. Eventually, you can't even afford to vacation there and live like a "2 week millionaire" any longer, so you stop going. Then you sit around and ***** about how expensive things have gotten when you are the reason for the increases.
Prices never go down in the mongering world once they are established and seemingly accepted by the consumer. Simple economics.
Sorry, I'm not trying to be insulting or anything. Just seen this scenario play out before my very eyes more times than I can count.
FYI-in most of the spots I am referring to-there is a decent expat community. They still get the goods for about $20 when a tourist is most likely going to have to pay hundreds. Why? Because time is on their side. Never underestimate the power of time my friend. Money gets tight and their expectations plummet faster than a girls panties after prom These same girls you are paying $150 for a few minutes of their time are most likely fucking many guys like me for much, much cheaper. Can also tell you 90%+ of the working girls in this city have major drug issues, whether they are obvious or not-including some of the higher end girls. Some are just better at hiding it than others
Once again, no offense intended. Treat any posts here by me or anyone with a grain of salt. Just my two cents if you will on the situation. What works for me may not work for others, but at the end of the day any contribution I have made to the skyrocketing price problem has been nil.
[QUOTE=AcquaDeJim;6282995]Honestly man, I have mongered around the world. Probably including a few places most people never heard of.
Fifteen years ago, I coulda told you about any one of 100 cities around the world where a man could secure a knockout (by Knox standards) companion for the night for $20 or so plus a $10 tip in the morning if sbe knocked your socks off.
Cheap, clean hotel with AC for about the same price. Beers were like $1 or so. You literally could have an all night threesome with as many pops as you could muster and still spend under $100 a day including your hotel. Nowadays it's a different game. Go to those places today and you might get a quicky for $100. The cheap but effective hotels gone and replaced by $300/ night resorts. Why? I mean some of it is the passage of time, but most of it lies with the consumer. Guys were happy to play with a knockout for pennies, but things changed. People became more expecting and depending on luxury.
In the parlance of overseas mongering, you would be referred to as a "2 week millionaire". Somebody who wants EXACTLY what you want-damn the price. It's cool, I get it. You have a great trip, go back the next year and the prices are like 50% more and so on and so forth. Eventually, you can't even afford to vacation there and live like a "2 week millionaire" any longer, so you stop going. Then you sit around and ***** about how expensive things have gotten when you are the reason for the increases.
Prices never go down in the mongering world once they are established and seemingly accepted by the consumer. Simple economics.
Sorry, I'm not trying to be insulting or anything. Just seen this scenario play out before my very eyes more times than I can count.
FYI-in most of the spots I am referring to-there is a decent expat community. They still get the goods for about $20 when a tourist is most likely going to have to pay hundreds. Why? Because time is on their side. Never underestimate the power of time my friend. Money gets tight and their expectations plummet faster than a girls panties after prom These same girls you are paying $150 for a few minutes of their time are most likely fucking many guys like me for much, much cheaper. Can also tell you 90%+ of the working girls in this city have major drug issues, whether they are obvious or not-including some of the higher end girls. Some are just better at hiding it than others
Once again, no offense intended. Treat any posts here by me or anyone with a grain of salt. Just my two cents if you will on the situation. What works for me may not work for others, but at the end of the day any contribution I have made to the skyrocketing price problem has been nil.[/QUOTE]AcquaDeJim, Well said, completely agree.
H19.
[QUOTE=Tommy5888;6281599]Met up with the one and only Britt recently. Lovely as always.[/QUOTE]Is this the same britt that used to work out of her appt on papermill while her BF was at work? I saw her a few times back in 2018 or 19 then she dropped off. If we are talking about the same girl I would love to get back in touch.
Can you guess some of my favs.
Damn. What happened 😭.
[QUOTE=Harleysg;6287448]Is this the same britt that used to work out of her appt on papermill while her BF was at work? I saw her a few times back in 2018 or 19 then she dropped off. If we are talking about the same girl I would love to get back in touch.[/QUOTE]This is Britt's Ex trying to get info. Tommy58888.
[QUOTE=WhiskySellar;6289610]This is Britt's Ex trying to get info. Tommy58888.[/QUOTE]Which Britney are we talking about there's way too many of them as well as ambers and the other one that everybody's referring to is red maybe we need to start giving identification numbers out of their name like Amber 1 Amber 2 Amber 3.
Hey this is to the guy I had a3 some with dee. I lost your number please text me. Thanks.
Hey I'm looking for a cool new bi friend. So if you are interested let me know.