Korean Bar Reports

[QUOTE=Aflack]Nothing much to look forward to anymore at the KBs except to joke around and talk to the regular customers. As the service and attitude of the KBGs gets worse, the bond between customers gets stronger.

We don't expect much anymore and tip accordingly (used to tip $1 per drink; now 50 cents per). Local guys see the preferred treatment the Kguys get so now we say, "Let them take care of their own", and no spend.

Eve will be renamed Hanabi and service sucks even more with the recycled Splash KBG transfers. Just can't win.

Looking for another place to park the old okole again. Liberty House did the same, catering to the non-locals and when they needed the local support. Too late. Going Waikiki again for the 1/2 price Happy Hour special and mingle with haoles and locals; a welcome break from the FOB BGs.

Everbody have a safe and good Sat.[/QUOTE]Yes LH was owned by the old out dated White Man owner/boss and minority thinking. It was owned by one of the big 5. A&B, Castle and Cooke, C. Brewer,etc. They never promoted non white to management til the end, paid low wages, etc. Never took care of locals. Most buyers purchased non local merchandise. That was there big down fall, they tried to change but it was too late. Chapter 11. And they had all most nothing left, they spend it all on bonuses, parties, and generous expense accounts for there people. I don't miss them!

[QUOTE=H Mobius]Brother Uki's post in the SB thread reminded me that Butterfly has posters up for CJ Miles who will be visiting that bar soon. Sorry I can't remember the dates - Dallas was climbing atop a table with her tight legs and high heels to put up the poster and I was enjoying the 'show', so I remember the messenger but not the message.[/QUOTE]
I believe it is Wednesday August 25 @ 8:00 p.m. I guess the KB's are slow so they are becoming SB's to lure more business. Yea, Mimi mama has turned CP into a SB. Her and TC must be getting desperate.

Had this girl CC almost a week ago. Blew a lot of dollars on her. Around $$$$$.

Filipino girl from sacramento. About 28 years old, 36D enhanced, 5'2, hardwood floors, very tanned with brown hair.

Started with one soju at the bar, then went to the backroom, started to sing and get lap dances. Then it was time to DFK.

Got milk from her, DATY until she had O, and HJ to end it.

Speaks good english since she is from the mainland. Major looker. If you don't mind blowing the $s then it's well worth it. I think might have given full service if I bought couple more sojus.

[QUOTE=Warriors808]I believe it is Wednesday August 25 @ 8:00 p.m. I guess the KB's are slow so they are becoming SB's to lure more business. Yea, Mimi mama has turned CP into a SB. Her and TC must be getting desperate.[/QUOTE]

Wait, this is a KB, SB? Both?

[QUOTE=Uki Eater]Wait, this is a KB, SB? Both?[/QUOTE]

Butterfly is just a hostess bar. Bringing that model in is just another gimmick (like the "Theme Nights" they've had) to try and draw customers.

The tall coco (aka nicole) changed her name when she moved from sheridan st to kalihi. She probably wanted to start afresh and without a reputation. She had lots of guy problems (some were cops and her bf before was a cop, not sure if she is still with him). She worked a 1st time but guess she moved over to ck.

I think YYMV with her so you guys will have to make some posts if you got anywhere with her or not.

One thing for sure, she has a nice set of tits and nice big nips. Other guys have said that her boobs are fake but after mauling them I still think they are for real, IMHO. In her younger days she would play when she got drunk but not sure about her status now.

I was at the newly named eye candi (old club business) last night. As we all thought, the type of customers changed with the kb/sc change. There were mostly younger types. A handful of older types but like FN and RZ and 939 the crowd was high in testosterone. They moved the booths over so they are all open. There is a small stage in the middle area. They put a planter so you can't see the stage much from the bar area.

There are still the private booths behind planters on the ewa side of the club and the usual rooms also. I didn't see many rooms being used though. There were a number of strippers working, 2 or three hot ones. I spoke with one waitress, she said a few girls (waitresses and dancers) came over from the old empire club (old stadium).

Many of the kb girls have moved on but there were still a few working, I think it's because the mama is probably paying them. There were also a number of viet girls there, some working the back bar.

I was lucky, I think because of the kb/sc question the bouncer and receptionist let me in for free. I think they were letting the kb goers (us older guys, the types over 40) in without paying. Heard that some guys said they wouldn't pay to go in and buy girls drinks so the mama told the bouncers to let the older guys in for free. The rest had to pay $10 to go in.

CJ looked pretty good and she brought over a friend from Cali to feature too. The other girl looked good too. I didn't realize CJ is so small, probably 4' 10" and 85 or 90 lbs with 5 or 10 lbs probably in her fake tits. She was naughty, poured water and then beer all over her and had her friend do fake coupling. Had one idiot sitting in the ewa corner throwing bunches of ones at CJ and the other girl, he probably threw $400 at them, guess some guys aren't affected by the recession (or he was just plain stup. Er you know what I mean).

Was noisy like a regular sc and bunches of young guys came in and out. Bouncers were huge and plentiful, in addition to the one wanding you when you come in there were 3 or 4 others all around the room.

Now comes the strange part, the mama still wants the place to be a kind of kb also but many of the kb girls all left, none want to stick around with the young kids and there aren't any booths available (except for the rooms and the booths behind the planters) for talking story. The place is way too loud and there are flashing light that are common in sc's but not in kb's. Even hapa girl natalie moved over (to evergreen of all places) so that's probably the end of the kb scene.

The mama has no experience running a sc and isn't enjoying it. She is going to have to make a decision, keep it as a sc or change it back to a kb. She can't really have it both ways. She is realizing that she makes money off the $20 drinks as a kb and she makes money off customers buying drinks as a sc. BTW, the drinks are closer to sc prices ($5 for a beer, etc.). IMHO the scene is more mellow as a kb and more stressful and higher action as a sc.

We'll have to see what they want to do with the place. If they keep it even partly as a sc they can say goodbye to the older crowd IMHO.

There is a person who used to work at Fantasia working at Casino. Brush up on your Japanese. Those who know well will know who I am talking about.

Went to Evergreen and for the life of me, can't figure out why. I know this place is a dump, but it was too late for the usual suspects and wanted to see if it had improved from my last experience. Believe it or not, it got worse. As if the sticky carpet that smells like piss isn't bad enough the girls have gotten older, uglier and even more ghostly looking.

At least all was not lost as there was entertainment. Well entertainment in the form of rats. No not the KBGs but the real rats. Yes, rats as in rattus norvegicus or rattus rattus (who knows the difference). I was sitting there watching them scurry along the top where the tv cable box and some wires are. Then they would go up into the suspended ceiling thru a hole they had obviously gnawed out near the wires. You can tell that someone knows they have a rat problem because they tried to plug the other hole(s) with that spray foam stuff you get in a can. I was thinking to myself they try to plug those holes and we (mongers) try to plug the other ho's I mean holes! You could tell they were coming from behind the bar and the kitchen area. Should make you think twice about eating the pupus or anything there. I know everywhere has problems. Hell, if you put food on the space shuttle, a rat is gonna figure out how to get on board, but geez Evergreen has some serious issues. I have spent many hours over many years in the bars and never seen them that bad and out in the open!

I think the only thing that keeps this place going is the 4am liquor license and the girls that come in after 2am from the other bars.

[QUOTE=Tittiluvah]Had this girl CC almost a week ago. Blew a lot of dollars on her. Around $$$$$.

Filipino girl from sacramento. About 28 years old, 36D enhanced, 5'2, hardwood floors, very tanned with brown hair.

Started with one soju at the bar, then went to the backroom, started to sing and get lap dances. Then it was time to DFK.

Got milk from her, DATY until she had O, and HJ to end it.

Speaks good english since she is from the mainland. Major looker. If you don't mind blowing the $s then it's well worth it. I think might have given full service if I bought couple more sojus.[/QUOTE]
She's originally from here and left about 3 years ago. Bolt ons were done @ 5 years ago.

Felt like it so I went. 1st stop Good Time in Kalihi. Should've passed as it was not fun at all. The rest of Kalihi was pretty dead so on to town side. Camelot, S Lounge dead. Eve had a bunch of Korean guys hangin' out and as a previous post commented the KBG's were pretty much catering to just them. Understandable in a way, but, the "gangstars" attitude is a little disturbing. On to Splash (which I hadn't been to in months). Surprise it was decently busy with a lot of girls around. Enjoyed the eye-candy at the bar. Bought the bartender Leah (sp?) a few and called it a night.

And so it goes.

Ss

Here's a pic of CC from a few years ago.

[QUOTE=Tittiluvah]Had this girl CC almost a week ago. Blew a lot of dollars on her. Around $$$$$.

Filipino girl from sacramento. About 28 years old, 36D enhanced, 5'2, hardwood floors, very tanned with brown hair.

Started with one soju at the bar, then went to the backroom, started to sing and get lap dances. Then it was time to DFK.

Got milk from her, DATY until she had O, and HJ to end it.

Speaks good english since she is from the mainland. Major looker. If you don't mind blowing the $s then it's well worth it. I think might have given full service if I bought couple more sojus.[/QUOTE]

Are prices that high over there ?? I would think for that amount , she should have ridden CG until you were both raw , lol !!

She is a looker , and I've blown more for less in my day , just not anymore . I was thinking about coming over in the spring , just because I love the Asian ladies . But if that's the going rate , I think I'll stay on the mainland !

How'd you get that pic?[QUOTE=John Ross]Here's a pic of CC from a few years ago.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Redskinzzfans]Are prices that high over there ?? I would think for that amount , she should have ridden CG until you were both raw , lol !!

She is a looker , and I've blown more for less in my day , just not anymore . I was thinking about coming over in the spring , just because I love the Asian ladies . But if that's the going rate , I think I'll stay on the mainland ![/QUOTE]It depends on the girl that you take to the backroom, plus the bottles they will be drinking in the back. If you take a young hottie to the back, normally they will want $$$ champagne but, some will do the $.20 soju bottles. Each girl is different, some will tank the bottles faster than others. Also, just because you blow $$$$$ doesn't mean she will put out and give FS. Some would and some wouldn't. Like they always say, YMMV. Some girls may put out and offer more play to one customer for X amount of $ and not so much to another customer.

A person can argue that $$$$$ is alot and he could have gone to an AMP twice etc. That's true but, maybe to him that's predictable. He knows what to expect in that 1 hr period. Also, would he been satisfied just banging a so so looking chick in 1 hour? Maybe, or maybe not. If he decides to try an average looking chick that he's not attracted to, she will have to service him really good for him to enjoy the overall session. Some guys, when they see a hot ass chick at a bar, even if he knows he won't get guaranteed FS, the idea of seeing how far you can go with a hottie can be exciting. He doesn't necessarily need to end the night banging her. He's already excited eye balling her.

That's where a KB or Hostess Bar can be exciting. The fact that you gotten a BJ from a hot ass BG for $$ while another dude paid $$$ and only got tittie rubs in the face. If one monger fails to get play from a BG, another will try and see how far he can go with her. Despite these BGs doing this for the $, I'm sure these BGs have their own standards on who they would put out for. I doubt the same hottie will give play to all customers regardless of how old, ugly and fat they are. For the right price, yah they might. But, one guy will have to cough up more $ to get the same result.