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[QUOTE=Power69;5374161]But some of us like a little meat on the bone.[/QUOTE]Polar bears actually prefer the fat to the meat.
[QUOTE=Power69;5374161]But some of us like a little meat on the bone.[/QUOTE]You won't get any competition for them from me, I'm looking for a peeler type that looks like Karen Carpenter.
Ran into a blast from the past. Pamela from H8's. She's 60 or 61 at this point, and still had the best body in the place by far. She also said Mia is dancing there now. I forgot which nights. No word on Deanna unfortunately.
Stopped in and got a drink noticed a dancer named sari. Last time I was in we talked a little and I had to leave. This time she was sitting in a by herself and I walked over said hi. Last week I was looking on sumosearch and saw her. Her name was Kellie, a cute black girl that gives pse. Well I mention this to her and said the glasses she was wearing were quite in the ad. Well she looks at me and says "well you should have called the fucking ad" gets up walks away and goes to the bouncer and tells him I am harassing her. WTF? He walks up and and asks me to come to the door with him. I explain I did nothing wrong and explained what had happened. He gave me a 20 and a pass to bogarts because he had only her and a fat chick to work tonight, she is fing crazy and to come back Tues and eat can have a drink and laugh about it.
Went to Bogarts on Sunday around 7, Dominic a black girl with large bolt on's came and chatted with me, we went upstairs for a covered BJ, $, will repeat.
I'm interested in Lisa Lisa, but last 3 times I have been there she is always just sitting with someone usually playing on her phone.
[QUOTE=TimeTwist;5374007]I was at Criket the next day, and it was about the same. Mostly fat, and the ones relatively thin were out of shape, and wanted too much, was quoted prices that are more in line with Flight Club by most of the dancers.
Went over to Bogies and Henry's and the dancers at both were in better shape on average, Most at Bogies were actually hotter than the dancers I saw at Criket, and Henry's had two of the hottest that night which just ain't right.[/QUOTE]So I was supposed to write a report back from Friday's visits. Did that same circuit and you couldn't have said it any better. Cricket last few times the line up has been pretty bad. Boogies was slammed with guys no where to sit. Henry's had two dancers working. This was Friday day shift.
[QUOTE=JetSpray;5374807]Stopped in and got a drink noticed a dancer named sari. Last time I was in we talked a little and I had to leave. This time she was sitting in a by herself and I walked over said hi. Last week I was looking on sumosearch and saw her. Her name was Kellie, a cute black girl that gives pse. Well I mention this to her and said the glasses she was wearing were quite in the ad. Well she looks at me and says "well you should have called the fucking ad" gets up walks away and goes to the bouncer and tells him I am harassing her. WTF? He walks up and and asks me to come to the door with him. I explain I did nothing wrong and explained what had happened. He gave me a 20 and a pass to bogarts because he had only her and a fat chick to work tonight, she is fing crazy and to come back Tues and eat can have a drink and laugh about it.[/QUOTE]Sounds to me that she got upset you made her because her in club pricing is going to be way more than on her ad and she is looking for a come up in the club. Man these chicks kill me.
[QUOTE=JetSpray;5374807]Stopped in and got a drink noticed a dancer named sari. Last time I was in we talked a little and I had to leave. This time she was sitting in a by herself and I walked over said hi. Last week I was looking on sumosearch and saw her. Her name was Kellie, a cute black girl that gives pse. Well I mention this to her and said the glasses she was wearing were quite in the ad. Well she looks at me and says "well you should have called the fucking ad" gets up walks away and goes to the bouncer and tells him I am harassing her. WTF? He walks up and and asks me to come to the door with him. I explain I did nothing wrong and explained what had happened. He gave me a 20 and a pass to bogarts because he had only her and a fat chick to work tonight, she is fing crazy and to come back Tues and eat can have a drink and laugh about it.[/QUOTE]She was on seeking arrangement before as well with unrealistic expectations and unless someone reliable can vouch for her I bet she would be underwhelming in the back as well, probably would ask for money upfront and cause a scene if you just said ok I am paying for this one dance. If this is the one. [URL]https://tryst.link/escort/kellikupkake[/URL].
[QUOTE=GuyDetroit;5375377]She was on seeking arrangement before as well with unrealistic expectations and unless someone reliable can vouch for her I bet she would be underwhelming in the back as well, probably would ask for money upfront and cause a scene if you just said ok I am paying for this one dance. If this is the one. [URL]https://tryst.link/escort/kellikupkake[/URL].[/QUOTE]Small saggy pearced tits is just not attractive to me.
Summer is a hot blonde spinner 20 years old. She has worn white high heel boots both times I have seen her on staged. Tipped and talked to her last time and said she didn't do extras. This time, she quoted me a ridiculous amount so I just ended up going back for some normal dances. Lets say there is $80-$100 I cannot account for after calculating all my costs.
[QUOTE=RayRaynor;5375484]Small saggy pearced tits is just not attractive to me.[/QUOTE]And she wants 700 per hour.
Looking for preferably Asian talent, anyone have any go to's? Lately I've been going into Bogies and Henry's (permanently quitting Henry's since the talent is usually rude). I heard there's one at FC but I've never been, what's the damage and does anyone find it worth it?
Also for anyone interested in Panth, it's a really fun club. Before the panny hit, extras were offered every time I went. (Admittedly you might be waiting over an hour depending on if who's there). It is a make it rain club, but extras are definitely to be had. Haven't been back since they shut down the back due to the shutdown though.
[QUOTE=MonoBlue;5375927]Looking for preferably Asian talent, anyone have any go to's? Lately I've been going into Bogies and Henry's (permanently quitting Henry's since the talent is usually rude). I heard there's one at FC but I've never been, what's the damage and does anyone find it worth it?
Also for anyone interested in Panth, it's a really fun club. Before the panny hit, extras were offered every time I went. (Admittedly you might be waiting over an hour depending on if who's there). It is a make it rain club, but extras are definitely to be had. Haven't been back since they shut down the back due to the shutdown though.[/QUOTE]There was one Asian during day shift at Landing Strip the last time I was there. Young probably 22 to 25, decent body, and a few tats. Only problem is rates are $200 and $300 with no negotiation room.
[QUOTE=HungaryMan;5375627]And she wants 700 per hour.[/QUOTE]Ya she is out of her mind at those rates oh an the one named Monroe on there is an Instagram model that's hot af imo but that is fake ad.
[QUOTE=TimeTwist;5376187]There was one Asian during day shift at Landing Strip the last time I was there. Young probably 22 to 25, decent body, and a few tats. Only problem is rates are $200 and $300 with no negotiation room.[/QUOTE]which day did you see her there?
A year ago I was at SC and met Daisy. She was blonde, older. Did not get any dances, however, she made it seem like it would be a good time. Has anyone seen her lately?
Anyone know of a stripper or 2 in the metro area that would provide BBFS extras in the club? PM is fine.
[QUOTE=EFromMI;5375077]Went to Bogarts on Sunday around 7, Dominic a black girl with large bolt on's came and chatted with me, we went upstairs for a covered BJ, $, will repeat.
I'm interested in Lisa Lisa, but last 3 times I have been there she is always just sitting with someone usually playing on her phone.[/QUOTE]Lisa Lisa will only do normal dances, not worth your time if your looking for something else.
[QUOTE=TreeTops84;5376538]Anyone know of a stripper or 2 in the metro area that would provide BBFS extras in the club? PM is fine.[/QUOTE]I have never left SC, BTs, H8's, or Bogies without finding at least one girl who will go bare.
Going to be back in the area for the first time since moving out west four years ago. Figure its a long shot at this point but looking to see if any of these dancers from Bogarts are still around.
Looks like Carrie is dancing at the Cricket. Around that time there was also a blonde, probably midto late 20's with equally large bolt ons and an older Burnette, mid 40's also similarly enhanced. Can't remember their names but anyone else remember them or know where they are at now?
Would also be interested in info other current dancers with the same builds and almost cartoonishly big fakes.
[QUOTE=RayRaynor;5375484]Small saggy pearced tits is just not attractive to me.[/QUOTE]Yeah my main point was two fold,1 the manager Henry's was cool about it I understand his situation. Two, I don't know what in the f* was wrong with this crazy b* I didn't even talk about price all I mentioned was that her f* glasses looked cute in the ad. And yeah for 700 I would expect a full evening of stretching and filling every hole she has with jizz.
[QUOTE=DooDong;5376551]Lisa Lisa will only do normal dances, not worth your time if your looking for something else.[/QUOTE]I don't know if that's true. I was an eye witness to a pretty tipsy (or drugged up) LisaLisa dropping a used condom after a "dance" upstairs and the DJ having to pick it up real quick with a napkin.
[QUOTE=DeadDead22;5377054]I don't know if that's true. I was an eye witness to a pretty tipsy (or drugged up) LisaLisa dropping a used condom after a "dance" upstairs and the DJ having to pick it up real quick with a napkin.[/QUOTE]Dang, guess YMMV. She told me no extras when I spoke with her.
[QUOTE=JetSpray;5376792]Yeah my main point was two fold,1 the manager Henry's was cool about it I understand his situation. Two, I don't know what in the f* was wrong with this crazy b* I didn't even talk about price all I mentioned was that her f* glasses looked cute in the ad. And yeah for 700 I would expect a full evening of stretching and filling every hole she has with jizz.[/QUOTE]So I go. Back for a drink and because I honestly was a little pissed that this shit stain thinks she can run me out of a place I have been going for 30 years. Anyway, she rolls up on me and starts giving me shit. I ask her to get the fu k away. I want nothing to do with her. And she says"pay me a tip or "I am going to fuck with you every time to come here. You don't respect women, you just this we are here you suck your white dicks" . Again please leave me alone, waitress, please get this **** away from me. She sits next to me and stares at me. Finally I get up and leave. Say way from this one guys. She 8's going to make trouble for the bar.
Bogarts was my first stop and an absolute wash, I think I'm just going to quit stopping there at this point, I haven't had a pleasant experience in a long time there.
Spent the rest of my night at Cricket, lots of talent around for the night surprisingly, not many of my taste but not bad either. There was a cute little spinner Sabrina I never got to see, and ended up spending some time with Britney, and had a good time (though I definitely overspent thanks to thinking with the other head). She was a lot of fun though, no rush, no complaints, left happy.
Talk to the management tell them you've been coming in there for years and have spent thousands in their bar. Point out the girl and tell them she is harassing you and won't leave you alone. If you truly have been going there for years the staff will know you. I used to go to one bar where as soon as I'd walk in the door the bartender had my drink ready for me before I could even get to the bar. I'd sit and talk with the manager on many occasions. No one in that bar ever farked with me.
[QUOTE=JetSpray;5377482]So I go. Back for a drink and because I honestly was a little pissed that this shit stain thinks she can run me out of a place I have been going for 30 years. Anyway, she rolls up on me and starts giving me shit. I ask her to get the fu k away. I want nothing to do with her. And she says"pay me a tip or "I am going to fuck with you every time to come here. You don't respect women, you just this we are here you suck your white dicks" . Again please leave me alone, waitress, please get this **** away from me. She sits next to me and stares at me. Finally I get up and leave. Say way from this one guys. She 8's going to make trouble for the bar.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JetSpray;5377482]So I go. Back for a drink and because I honestly was a little pissed that this shit stain thinks she can run me out of a place I have been going for 30 years. Anyway, she rolls up on me and starts giving me shit. I ask her to get the fu k away. I want nothing to do with her. And she says"pay me a tip or "I am going to fuck with you every time to come here. You don't respect women, you just this we are here you suck your white dicks" . Again please leave me alone, waitress, please get this **** away from me. She sits next to me and stares at me. Finally I get up and leave. Say way from this one guys. She 8's going to make trouble for the bar.[/QUOTE]Wow! That's fucked up. I'm kind of surprised that the waitress didn't bring a bouncer back over to the table for you. Without question, someone from the club will read this and if they do the right thing, they won't let her work there or in any of the other Hamilton establishments again, as well as reaching out to you. A customer of 30 years is a rough thing to lose over a crazy ***** with an attitude.
Had 2 recent incidents of demanding payment before dances / services. BT's, blonde stage name "Sensation," soon as we got into the booth she says she needs cash first. I said nope, I don't do that, do we continue or no? Answer was no. Gave her a 20 and went back to the bar. Couple other notes about BT's, only one other girl even approached me, "Summer," petite brunette, but she had GPS (300) so I politely declined. Other thing I noticed is for a solid hour, 4 girls sat in a booth by themselves drinking, talking, laughing, pointing at phones. Really? I don't get that. Are they there to make money or they don't care?
On to H8, slim pickings, went with "Cat", brunette, late 20's, a little chunky. , cute face Once again, got the I need the cash up front. Another 20 for her to go away. She actually said "they (management) make us do this now. " Anyone else see an uptick in this or was I just unlucky?
[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;5378459]Had 2 recent incidents of demanding payment before dances / services. BT's, blonde stage name "Sensation," soon as we got into the booth she says she needs cash first. I said nope, I don't do that, do we continue or no? Answer was no. Gave her a 20 and went back to the bar. Couple other notes about BT's, only one other girl even approached me, "Summer," petite brunette, but she had GPS (300) so I politely declined. Other thing I noticed is for a solid hour, 4 girls sat in a booth by themselves drinking, talking, laughing, pointing at phones. Really? I don't get that. Are they there to make money or they don't care?
On to H8, slim pickings, went with "Cat", brunette, late 20's, a little chunky. , cute face Once again, got the I need the cash up front. Another 20 for her to go away. She actually said "they (management) make us do this now. " Anyone else see an uptick in this or was I just unlucky?[/QUOTE]I was at H8 on Monday for day shift and did not have to prepay. I went a couple other times in the last few months and also did not have to prepay. There was only 1 occasion where the girl asked for prepay and I declined as that never turns out good in my experience.
[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;5378459]Had 2 recent incidents of demanding payment before dances / services. BT's, blonde stage name "Sensation," soon as we got into the booth she says she needs cash first. I said nope, I don't do that, do we continue or no? Answer was no. Gave her a 20 and went back to the bar. Couple other notes about BT's, only one other girl even approached me, "Summer," petite brunette, but she had GPS (300) so I politely declined. Other thing I noticed is for a solid hour, 4 girls sat in a booth by themselves drinking, talking, laughing, pointing at phones. Really? I don't get that. Are they there to make money or they don't care?
On to H8, slim pickings, went with "Cat", brunette, late 20's, a little chunky. , cute face Once again, got the I need the cash up front. Another 20 for her to go away. She actually said "they (management) make us do this now. " Anyone else see an uptick in this or was I just unlucky?[/QUOTE]Happened to me at Hanks on Friday by a blk woman that gave me a couple good dances with licking my ears and kissing my neck but wanted cash upfront for more so I went to sc and didn't pre pay.
[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;5378459]... soon as we got into the booth she says she needs cash first. I said nope, I don't do that, do we continue or no? Answer was no. Gave her a 20...[/QUOTE]I wouldn't have given her anything. I wouldn't ask for a refund for the wrist band. She'll be screaming, I'd just stay calm and say I didn't get a dance because she wouldn't give me one without prepayment. Do you want me to leave? She's likely happy to get $20 for nothing. They won't call the cops. The worse that will happen is they ask you to leave. After this happens with a few guys they'll tell the girl to stop causing problems.
[QUOTE=GuyDetroit;5378555]Happened to me at Hanks on Friday by a blk woman that gave me a couple good dances with licking my ears and kissing my neck but wanted cash upfront for more so I went to sc and didn't pre pay.[/QUOTE]When I chat with someone, I typically work out x for why dollars with no song count before going back to avoid misunderstandings. I might add "I have the money (might show it before going back so she knows I have it) but I'm not handing it over until we're done. " If she declines, I move on and save a wasted VIP trip. I get their concerns over maybe getting cheated but hopefully seeing I have it will put them at ease.
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;5378916]I wouldn't have given her anything. I wouldn't ask for a refund for the wrist band. She'll be screaming, I'd just stay calm and say I didn't get a dance because she wouldn't give me one without prepayment. Do you want me to leave? She's likely happy to get $20 for nothing. They won't call the cops. The worse that will happen is they ask you to leave. After this happens with a few guys they'll tell the girl to stop causing problems.[/QUOTE]Guys,
I agree with PL, you shouldn't pay her anything for walking out during the first song. Especially right at the beginning. She is happy to get your $20 for nothing. You are paying her for dances, and she didn't do the dance because she insisted on payment up front. I believe making a small payment like this encourages the girls to ask for payment up front more often.
I like to size up the girl, if she is an experienced peeler then she knows what she is doing and she is trying to hustle you. Count yourself lucky as you just dodged a bad session and can save your money for a more deserving girl.
If she is a newbie. Then I ask her if the other girls told her to ask for the money up front and explain those girls tell the new girls to do that, hoping the guy walks out of the VIP and then the other girls will take that customer to the VIP. I often say you are prettier than most girls in here I wouldn't be surprised if they are giving you bad advice. They don't want you dancing for any guys in here.
I have run into periods of time where girls demand money up front and when they don't. Sometime getting three or four girls in a row doing this. You can add to your negotiation that payment is at the end and if you are fully satisfied you will include a tip. This won't necessarily stop a girl from trying to hustle you but it will cut down on it. I have had girls negotiate with me in the main room about payment up front and then not gone back with them and even saved paying the VIP fee.
As for high prices. I never begrudge a girl asking for a high price. We all know there are guys out there that pay them. So if a guy will pay $300 or $400 or $500 if I was the dancer why not take that. I find telling the girl I normally pay $150 she will either agree to it or propose a counter offer. If you don't want to do that you can always say you are really beautiful and I am sure you are worth $300, but I am sorry I can't pay that much and I don't want to insult you with a counter offer. She will most likely drop her price or she will say it is ok to make a counter offer, let me know what you can pay.
Lastly there are whole range of girls in the clubs. Some girls will go with any guy. Some will reject almost every guy. But some girls will offer different prices to different guys. I know you are in a strip club where the incentive is for the girls to take you to the VIP. But many girls are happy to sit and get drunk all night. They may have made their money already or they have a regular that is coming in to drop enough money on them that they don't need to go with other guys. Talk to the girl, get to know her, get her to like you and your prices will vary. Also if she thinks you may become a regular then her prices will change. So she may offer some guy she doesn't know and doesn't recognize $500 to go to the VIP. For a guy she recognizes and likes she may drop her price to $200 or $150. Many of these girls until they harden up would prefer to take less money from a guy they like than more money from a guy they don't like. And the hottest girls frequently have more guys chasing them than they can see in a night so they can be selective.
After a challenging night or nights like you had, I find often comes a series of really good or great nights as long as I keep trying.
MM.
[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;5376397]which day did you see her there?[/QUOTE]I saw here on a Saturday.
I know this has been discussed before but I'm wondering if anything has changed since the restrictions lifted.
Are the east side clubs (8 mile) still no good for extras? I read that the VIP areas didn't have curtains anymore and is wide open for everyone to see what's going on.
I've always had good luck at those clubs before the lockdown. Just want to know if things are back to normal or should I not waste my time.
[QUOTE=JoeyRamone;5379942]I know this has been discussed before but I'm wondering if anything has changed since the restrictions lifted.
Are the east side clubs (8 mile) still no good for extras? I read that the VIP areas didn't have curtains anymore and is wide open for everyone to see what's going on.
I've always had good luck at those clubs before the lockdown. Just want to know if things are back to normal or should I not waste my time.[/QUOTE]I have been to the coliseum a few times. VIP fee is 20, dances are 25. No curtains, no specials, all open and lights on. The only good news is that they got some good looking spiners.
Lansing monger here. Going to be at Greek town midweek. I know bozoukis and legends are close by, which one is better for fun? Is there somewhere better to go that I don't know about?
[QUOTE=RyanGle28;5380491]Lansing monger here. Going to be at Greek town midweek. I know bozoukis and legends are close by, which one is better for fun? Is there somewhere better to go that I don't know about?[/QUOTE]Head to Dearborn, Inkster, or Romulus. Take Michigan Avenue west from Downtown.
Blech.
10 dancers, mostly blondes, mostly thick and more so, which is not my cup of tea. To me the most appealing dancer was the veteran Brenda. So BGs was a waste other than grabbing a beer and taking a piss after some good beers at Slows.
[QUOTE=SemiRegular;5348466]I had a similar experience, Sounds like you are describing "Deena".[/QUOTE]Just had a similar experience. Didn't remember the name until we had got back.