Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=Ceenote]Spotted Julie tonight 28yo WSW on McMic midway between Industrial zone and Ravine and got a discrete little wave from her as I passed. Initial thoughts were TGTBT. I had never seen her out before and she just didn't look the part. It took me a while to get back to her and surprisingly she was still there.

Gave her the look so that she knew what I was up to, turned on my turn signal, but rolled a little bit further before moving over to the curb. I have been known to make those that are new to me do a little walking. My thoughts are that if it is a decoy they will need to maintain control of their environment and she will need to remain within eye sight of their visual survalience and LE doesn't want their girl moving on up the street out of view. She immediately crossed the street however and made her way up the street to where I had parked and she jumped right in.

Her first comments were "I am gonna be sooo embarrassed if you were not actually pulling over to get me". My inital assessment remained that she looked more like the girl next door and didn't really look like a SW: attractive, clean, make up, tan, nice clothes, smelled nice. We roll and once down the street she gets a handful of Lil Cee and allows me to enjoy going through the motion of getting to run my checks on her. Story goes that she lives across the river, has kids, a job, but is a PT'er who likes to come out on occaision to supplement her income. Okay... so far so good and then come the negotiations.

She is telling me how .3 to .4 is her usual for BJ and I tell her how maybe I spend more time on the street than she does and that my experience has shown that .2 is the going rate for this part of town. Well that didn't go over too well and the problem was that this girl was good looking and KNEW that she was, but I couldn't let on to that. Somewhat surprised that she settled for .25 but if she hadn't I would have had to have thrown her back because that was all in for me. This is where this story fizzles out quickly.

Having a SW with exceptional good looks is no guarantee of exceptional service and proved to be the case here. Rush rush rush and I did not like her rapid fire, jack hammer like technique that would only last for short bursts and would stop so she could check how much longer I was gonna need. When that kind of talk starts from the beginning it pretty much ruins it for me. She also did not catch when that had been the original plan discussed.

Perhaps she is able to usually command the higher amounts mentioned based on her looks alone and provided me the cut rate service because I offended her with my offer, but I somehow think it wouldn't have made any difference. She has digits because she was immediately on the phone before I could even wipe up, but I had no interest in any possible future meetings with her.

Ceenote's side notes: Spotted a red head at the bus stop at the bottom of Straight St along with two others a couple of nights ago (none of them were known to me). All three were decent looking but looked more like they going out to hit the bars together than working. Red caught my attention because it made me think about what J-me might have looked like a few years ago. Tonight spotted the red head closer to MLK, wearing a dress, heels and a long coat. She was holding the side panels of the coat and sort of flapping her arms to draw the attention of passing traffic as she was sort of in a particularly dark area of the street. She had a black handler moving in the same direction on the opposite side of the street. Seems like a while back there were mutiple Red's around, but anyone with any knowledge on this one?[/QUOTE]
Your post allows me to add one more data point to my informal collection of information about the relationship between physical attractiveness and skills. I think there is a negative correlation here with a tendency for higher attractiveness to be associated with lesser skills. My two most attractive SWs (Lehia and Keisha) were both in their twenties and below average when it came to skills. On the other hand, the two SWs I have encountered with the best skills were a 40 year-old BSW who was below average in physical attractiveness (and a record that included a felony conviction on a drug charge) and a 45 year-old BSW who also is a bit below average in terms of physical attractiveness. This relationship between attractiveness and skills probably does not hold when it comes to escorts. My one escort experience was with a young woman who was above average in attractiveness and way above average in skills. What do you think, guy? Does it seem to you that as you go up in attractiveness there tends to be (not invariably, but a tendency) a lower level of skills?

Hey Bill F.

Ever hear the old married joke where the groom is smiling from ear to ear at the alter and the best man asks why he is smiling so much and the groom says "I just got the best blow job ever!" and the bride is also smiling from ear to ear and the bridesmaid asks her the same question and she answers "I just gave my last blow job ever!"

It is no different with street walkers, C/L Girls/BP Girls or Eros Girls. If they think they are attractive enough or in a position to get away with sub par performance and still get paid they will do it. If the price is right they will do whatever you want (Even some of the things they say are off limits). I tested this theory with a local provider once that clearly stated under no circumstances "NO ANAL" I found the price that made her say YES!

Now it did cost me a significant donation but if the money is there the service will be there.

It was just a little psychology experiment that I got a lot of fun out of LOL!

Beauty and service do have a correlation when you throw price into the equation.

There are exceptions to every rule. Some girls (Providers included) just like sex in all forms, those are the fun ones LOL!


KG

YMMV almost always applies, but in my travels, younger/better looking ladies tend to not need great skills in order to survive. There are exceptions to this rule as always. Nonetheless, older providers then to have great skills. I think they depend more on reviews -- and good to great reviews require good to great service. I think too many guys think with the little head and don't do enough research. A hot chick easily gets the wood up, but for me the total experience is more important than the initial impression. I can think of many exceptions, even in our area, so this is very much a generalization and not a hard and fast rule. In fact my current ATF is probably not out of her twenties and is both attractive and skilled. Suffice it to say that I don't let age and pictures influence me to a great extent. There's more to a hot time than looks. Ron Jeremy is a great example of this in the reverse. There are many, many hot porn ladies that love him and he's hardly an example of a young buff guy. The ladies l-o-v-e him for the experience and not his looks (obviously).

Thought I would weigh in as well on this discussion about performance/skills versus their age/appearance, as it is one that I think about often as well.

Regardless of the amount paid, regardless of the type of work she is in (SW, escort, stripper carry-out), I have often found that it is how much of a connection that we are able to have with one another on a personal, individual level that affects her level of performance.

It is that connection that I seek as much as anything else during our brief time together. That is how ladies become my ATF. That is why I pass by many of them when I roll, because I sense that there won't be a meaningful connection, creating the environment for a great time with repeats in the future. They are just seeing me a large leather wallet.

Once a fellow monger on this board was kind enough to share digits of with me of a regular of theirs. There is always a certain nervousness when meeting someone new on my side, and I was looking for a regular myself. When I suggested we meet and have lunch (which I was going to pay for meal and her time) she balked. "I don't want a date. I don't want a boyfriend. Why are you wasting my time? Just come over." Again, I wanted to meet casually and cover her time, then find a place to go. I wanted to be with someone I could care about and connect with, however briefly. She wanted to just date my wallet. She only saw my wallet in her mind. And you know that will lead to only rushed, terrible service. (Which was probably where that was going to wind up.)

I know some of you are really rolling your eyes and smacking your foreheads at me at this point. We all have a wide variety of needs and desires when we are out. A monger friend of mine has told me to be like Nike. "Just do it." However, without that connection, even if it is brief and for one-time-only, I simply don't enjoy my time. It becomes a total waste of money and effort at that point. I may as well just hit and strip club and watch the sizzle and eat the steak another day.

To swing things back around to the original point and discussion, I have had beautiful ladies and semi-ugly ladies but have had great, consensual adult time together because of our connection with one another, however brief. The same holds true on the flip side --- I have had beautiful ladies and semi-ugly ladies WITHOUT that connection and it's been nothing but rush rush rush and performance disappointment.

Some ladies don't want to see us as such, as some mongers don't want to see them as such. Which is fine. Like I said, we all have a wide variety of needs and desires when we are out. For me, to be able to connect with a lady I find agreeable and meaningful, both of us having a great time, and repeating over and over (so she doesn't have to stroll and I don't have to roll) would be sweet. Especially with the colder weather on the way.

I cruised the McMicken route and the new areas last night around midnight. Saw only one Black Female TV by Elm and McMicken. Drove over to LPH and hit a jacpot about 7 or 8 gave me the look mostly white girls. I circled back and was sad that 4 had disappeared and the others were only the rough looking white girls from McMicken area zero new faces. Maybe I need glasses or they need better lighting in LPH. (LOL)

I normally don't post in this thread, because I don't partake in this area. I do read all the threads, though. This discussion intrigued me (partially, because the SW thread is one of the "cleanest" in terms of posts that aren't reports, but mostly because of the topic).

As more of you post, I think it is becoming more clear that you must consider more than just a couple of the factors. I don't think you can exclusively look at attractiveness and performance. Even the Fanta-stic one made note of the ages of his "test subjects". Also noted was venue (SW, escort, etc.) KG added money into the mix. Soleil has added "personal connection". Jay pointed out that age and attractiveness influences how hard they have to try to be successful.

You can certainly GENERALIZE based on 2 or 3 of the factors. Less attractive = better skills, more attractive = lesser skills. But that doesn't explain the "exceptions to that rule". If you view this discussion anthropomorphically, I think you would need to extrapolate key elements from each of the categories after they are noted and then you can begin applying them to case studies. Even so, there will always be some that are outside the bell curve of your analysis. Those that are not "normal" [although I personally do not like to use that word. What IS "normal"? ]. Furthermore, some of the elements will modify each other when used in combination.

For example:

Young = less opportunity for experience = lesser skills

Older = more experience = better skills

However, if you add in KG's point that "Some girls just like sex in all forms, those are the fun ones":

I think that either young or old might have better skills. They will be more likely to be really trying to please and be pleased and they will more likely seek out more experience and improvement. It kind of makes for a "wildcard"

Some key elements I extrapolated (I'm kinda using "skills" and "performance" interchangably, but not always):

Young = less opportunity for experience = lesser skills

Older = more experience = better skills

More attractive = doesn't have to try as hard to sell herself = lesser performance

Less attractive = has to try harder to offset appearance = better skills and performance

Possibility of more money = more incentive to please = better performance (not necessarily better skills)

Average money or Little money = less incentive to please = lesser performance

Personal connection = friendlier, likes what they are doing = better performance (this might be too subjective and difficult to determine until "too late")

No connection = less friendly, in it "just for the money" = lesser performance (this might be too subjective and difficult to determine until "too late")

Just likes sex = WILDCARD and can change things up since it influences the other factors

I WILL note, personally, that attitude is [b]very[/b] important to me. If the girl does not have the right attitude, it probably won't satisfy. A lot of things go into the "attitude" though. Friendliness, why they are doing this, do they like it, etc. So, it may not be a key/basic element but a combination of elements.

Good Attitude = better performance

Poor Attutide = lesser performance

Feel free to add to this as the discussion continues. I'm sure this is not comprehensive. Just wanted to add my thoughts and collect others.

Be safe, be well,

JR

I reported awhile back about picking up a SW in Covington named "Amy". I put I thought she was TGTBT but was a young hotty. I found a pic of her on the friendly jailtracker website. Evidently she got arrested today. Her real initials are K B if anyone wants to check her out and let me know what you think.

I picked her up last week and got BBBJCIM which was really nice. She even continued sucking the cum out of my cock as it kept coming. It was really nice.

I'll bet you loved stats and aced the class.

[QUOTE=Jry Wild1]

For example:

Young = less opportunity for experience = lesser skills

Older = more experience = better skills

However, if you add in KG's point that "Some girls just like sex in all forms, those are the fun ones":

I think that either young or old might have better skills. They will be more likely to be really trying to please and be pleased and they will more likely seek out more experience and improvement. It kind of makes for a "wildcard"

Some key elements I extrapolated (I'm kinda using "skills" and "performance" interchangably, but not always):

Young = less opportunity for experience = lesser skills

Older = more experience = better skills

More attractive = doesn't have to try as hard to sell herself = lesser performance

Less attractive = has to try harder to offset appearance = better skills and performance

Possibility of more money = more incentive to please = better performance (not necessarily better skills)

Average money or Little money = less incentive to please = lesser performance

Personal connection = friendlier, likes what they are doing = better performance (this might be too subjective and difficult to determine until "too late")

No connection = less friendly, in it "just for the money" = lesser performance (this might be too subjective and difficult to determine until "too late")

Just likes sex = WILDCARD and can change things up since it influences the other factors

I WILL note, personally, that attitude is [b]very[/b] important to me. If the girl does not have the right attitude, it probably won't satisfy. A lot of things go into the "attitude" though. Friendliness, why they are doing this, do they like it, etc. So, it may not be a key/basic element but a combination of elements.

Good Attitude = better performance

Poor Attutide = lesser performance

Feel free to add to this as the discussion continues. I'm sure this is not comprehensive. Just wanted to add my thoughts and collect others.

Be safe, be well,

JR[/QUOTE]

Thank you, Jay (I'm assuming a compliment here). In my defense and out of respect, Bill Fanta started this. *laughs*

I have always loved math and science and have always considered anthropology (study of humanity) a favorite hobby. This is a particularly interesting application of THAT hobby.

JR

[QUOTE=Jay Malibu]I'll bet you loved stats and aced the class.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jry Wild1]I WILL note, personally, that attitude is [b]very[/b] important to me. If the girl does not have the right attitude, it probably won't satisfy. A lot of things go into the "attitude" though. Friendliness, why they are doing this, do they like it, etc. So, it may not be a key/basic element but a combination of elements.[/QUOTE]Well said! Attitude is a huge element of making a connection, that is for certain. Oh, and you were also correct that the 'wildcard' really can mix things up in a good way! If only there was a way to identify those with the wildcard quickly & easily.

[QUOTE=Jry Wild1]I normally don't post in this thread, because I don't partake in this area. I do read all the threads, though. This discussion intrigued me (partially, because the SW thread is one of the "cleanest" in terms of posts that aren't reports, but mostly because of the topic).

As more of you post, I think it is becoming more clear that you must consider more than just a couple of the factors. I don't think you can exclusively look at attractiveness and performance. Even the Fanta-stic one made note of the ages of his "test subjects". Also noted was venue (SW, escort, etc.) KG added money into the mix. Soleil has added "personal connection". Jay pointed out that age and attractiveness influences how hard they have to try to be successful.

You can certainly GENERALIZE based on 2 or 3 of the factors. Less attractive = better skills, more attractive = lesser skills. But that doesn't explain the "exceptions to that rule". If you view this discussion anthropomorphically, I think you would need to extrapolate key elements from each of the categories after they are noted and then you can begin applying them to case studies. Even so, there will always be some that are outside the bell curve of your analysis. Those that are not "normal" [although I personally do not like to use that word. What IS "normal"? ]. Furthermore, some of the elements will modify each other when used in combination.

For example:

Young = less opportunity for experience = lesser skills

Older = more experience = better skills

However, if you add in KG's point that "Some girls just like sex in all forms, those are the fun ones":

I think that either young or old might have better skills. They will be more likely to be really trying to please and be pleased and they will more likely seek out more experience and improvement. It kind of makes for a "wildcard"

Some key elements I extrapolated (I'm kinda using "skills" and "performance" interchangably, but not always):

Young = less opportunity for experience = lesser skills

Older = more experience = better skills

More attractive = doesn't have to try as hard to sell herself = lesser performance

Less attractive = has to try harder to offset appearance = better skills and performance

Possibility of more money = more incentive to please = better performance (not necessarily better skills)

Average money or Little money = less incentive to please = lesser performance

Personal connection = friendlier, likes what they are doing = better performance (this might be too subjective and difficult to determine until "too late")

No connection = less friendly, in it "just for the money" = lesser performance (this might be too subjective and difficult to determine until "too late")

Just likes sex = WILDCARD and can change things up since it influences the other factors

I WILL note, personally, that attitude is [b]very[/b] important to me. If the girl does not have the right attitude, it probably won't satisfy. A lot of things go into the "attitude" though. Friendliness, why they are doing this, do they like it, etc. So, it may not be a key/basic element but a combination of elements.

Good Attitude = better performance

Poor Attutide = lesser performance

Feel free to add to this as the discussion continues. I'm sure this is not comprehensive. Just wanted to add my thoughts and collect others.

Be safe, be well,

JR[/QUOTE]
Young = tight pussy older < tight pussy But hell for most of us they are all younger. lol.

Dave, I burst out laughing at that one. Oh, how true. I will factor that into my statistical analysis.

Thank you for the input!

JR

[QUOTE=Dillsborodave]Young = tight pussy older < tight pussy But hell for most of us they are all younger. lol.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jry Wild1]Thank you, Jay (I'm assuming a compliment here). In my defense and out of respect, Bill Fanta started this. *laughs*

I have always loved math and science and have always considered anthropology (study of humanity) a favorite hobby. This is a particularly interesting application of THAT hobby.

JR[/QUOTE]

You assumed correctly -- a complement. I was impressed with your analysis. Very much matches my experience over the last five years. I will also add that if you're respectful and nice, you get respectful and nice in return -- regardless of age. This does not apply to the small number of providers that don't really want to be in the business and/or have a bad attitude. I am amazed that more providers don't have bad attitudes. The stories that I've been told of how some providers are treated by clients, just make me shake my head. I'm not sure I have thick enough skin to survive being a provider.

The formerly pregnant petite blond that hangs out in Covington is out and about. I saw her hanging around on Madison just south of 8th. Didn't look like she was 'working' but I'll leave that to the experts as I'm still not sure of some of the subtleties that indicate such. For the record, when they wave and try to get in your car; I do understand that.

It is still all about timing and my timing comes and goes. Some nights I am right on mark, and if I wait just a few minutes more, and not do something quick my timing is all off.

Example I was out and about a weekend ago over the Thurs, Fri, Sat, period, and it was hit one hour and miss the next. One moment the streets are empty, and the next you are like WTF.

Thursday I came out about 9pm and nothing. I drive around for and hour or so, before I remember it was Task Force Thursday, and people knew it. Then I decided to take a drive down to Riches for a bit to eat, and who do I see coming out of Riches, but two young ladies I have been with a few times before. After a few word they told me to give them a call.

I did an of course they ran out of minutes and I couldn't reach them, even by text.

Friday, was better, because I started out with the young lady calling me earlier in the day to tell me what happened and if we can still get together. I only had about a two hour window to get to her place and hook up before the rest of her household came home. I made it there is 30mins, did a quickie for 25 and and back on my way.

After an hour I found Pokie and it was on again, so we went to her spot and of course she took 25 for H / H. I gave her a 3buck tip.

After stopping for drinks like a few beers with the fellas at a corner bar, I was at the car and a young ladies walked by and saw I was getting in the car and asked if I could give her a ride to Avondale, over by the Hospitals. I took one look at her and thought, "oh hell yea! "

As we drove and talked it was not hard to get to my favorite subject, and in fact she was posing it to me. Of course she was talking 40 buck for H / H, and I told her Oh No, but once we settled on 30 she was just as happy. She wanted to go to her place but we settled on a neutral place.

Saturday it started out poorly but again out of nowhere, I happened to drive pass the shell station and saw a seriously big butt girl in a shiny silver dress and heels. I did a quick circle and she was walking towards the club down on Walnut. Too slow!

Then as I was traveling down pass the Linn Street FireHouse, she was getting out of a car in front of Stanley Rowe Towers. This time I blow the horn, and she stopped. I made the circle and she came to the car. I told her I had seen her once in the car, and then it was on.

We did the check and sale, and wanted to go to a 10buck street place which I had been to before. We settled on 30 and she wasn't that happy but said it was hard finding someone who she felt safe enough with. She was a little tight for MONEY. Did H / H at the place and got a two double deuce beers from the house place. Once in the room she drink the beers smoked her joint and Screw. She let me get off twice. I did question it, but was happen she did. We used up an hour in the room.

I took her then to the W. See. . She got her food she paid for it, and I dropped her off where I found her.

Now about 2am while eating my food from Richie she and a friend walk into the lot walking to the back projects there. I horn they come over, and we talk. Ole silver heels was going to meet someone and the other girl was walking her there. I gave them a ride, and the girl told the other I was okay, and I then took her friend to the street spot and paid her 30 for the same. She had a cell but only took me number. She was a rather slim young girl with a tits bigger than her size should have with thicker leggz and a decent face.

This has been my Readers Digest version of my Good & Bad timing experience. I sounds good, but the time I had to put in to make it good to me was too much. It never use to be that way. Even during the lean times of the past it was better than now.

Oh by the way if you are looking for Skanks & Tranny then you are in luck for they were everywhere, and always on the move. Always!

The first thing was a request to be "friends." Hmmm. This hobby is not exactly open to wide-ranging social networking beyond the exchange of posts. It is surprising to me that Jackson is going the "facebook" route. My conservative self (not much there, I admit), urges go slow on this one. If Jackson explained the new feature, I missed it. An explanation might have made me less apprehensive. Still, my suggestion is to make face to face and increasingly personal contacts with other mongers only with VERY strictly limited conditions.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PHOTOGALLERY??? This has been one of my favorite features. Perhaps more poking around will turn it up, but I have not been able to find it after the changes at USASG.

The new look? I'll get used to it, but (again-the old fashioned curmudgeon in me) asks why fix something that was not broken. I am willing to be convinced, like. What are the advantages of the new look? Are there other new features (beyond establishment of "friends") which Jackson wanted to offer? Do we really want the world to know that we are on line at the present moment?

Mind you, I am still grateful for this board, and am still a happy member (especially because it helps my member to be happy, but sometimes increased features bring increased complexity, and increased vulnerability to probing by LE.

Just wondering.

Was enjoying my first cup of coffee this moring when I immediately recognized Megan's picture on my TV screen. Seems that she wanted LE to arrive quickly at the Interstate to a help with a customer who had received services, but did not pay. So to expedite their arrival she phones it in as a hostage at gunpoint situation. LE arrives and everyone gets busted. Nice to see someone following the rules of not paying up front, but you are supposed to pay afterward!

[url]http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20101012/NEWS010701/310120014/Hooker-calls-police-to-get-john-to-pay[/url]

I looked up both lasses on the HCSO site, and I find it telling that neither was actually arrested FOR solicitation. The blonde was arrested for misuse of emergency services, and the brunette for theft. Theft is meatier than solicit so it makes sense of the one, but the other, if they were going to make a case I'd of thought they'd of gone for the solicit there. Ah well, something to keep an eye on though. .

Jay.

[QUOTE=Ceenote; 1076428]Was enjoying my first cup of coffee this moring when I immediately recognized Megan's picture on my TV screen. Seems that she wanted LE to arrive quickly at the Interstate to a help with a customer who had received services, but did not pay. So to expedite their arrival she phones it in as a hostage at gunpoint situation. LE arrives and everyone gets busted. Nice to see someone following the rules of not paying up front, but you are supposed to pay afterward!

[url]http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20101012/NEWS010701/310120014/Hooker-calls-police-to-get-john-to-pay[/url][/QUOTE]

Last Friday I was cruising around some of the standard areas in Cincy and didn't see anything that was very tempting. I headed back to Kentucky planning to take a brief look around Covington before going home. Nothing much in Covington other than a heavy set blond I've seen several times before on Madison or Scott. I gave the blond a close look trying to decide whether to partake and just couldn't bring myself to give her a try.

So I'm thinking about giving up and heading home, but I knew this was my last chance to score before taking a week long trip to Dallas and decided to call the older BSW I have seen 3-4 times in Covington. (BTW, while I wouldn't be trying the SW scene in Dallas, I would be sampling one of the many AMPs there) I call, she answers, I ask if she's available, and she says she is in Cincinnati in a house near Montgomery Road. I ask if there is anyone else in the house and she says she is there alone and would love for me to come over. Since it is still early afternoon and I have nothing else to do, I head back to I-75 and head north.

I call her again when I cross the river and she says to get on I-71 and take the Montgomery Road exit. Now I don't know my way around Cincinnati all that well, but I DO know that there are two Montgomery exits off of I-71, so I ask her which Montgomery Road exit to take. She says the exit that says Dana / Montgomery Road is NOT the one to take, so I head up I-75, go past the Dana Road / Montgomery Road. Exit and continue north. I get off on that second Montgomery Road. Exit, pull into the nearby BP station and call her. She says she is within walking distance of the BP and I should just stay there at the BP until she gets there.

I wait a while, but she doesn't show, so I call again. She's at a BP station she says, but it is NOT the BP station I'm parked at and now I am really confused. She says she can see the street sign and knows that she is at a BP station on Montgomery Road. I pull back onto Montgomery Road figuring that she can't be that far away and if I stay on Montgomery Road I'm bound to see her. Right? Wrong. I drive and drive and drive, finally arriving at Symmes Township. I call her and tell her I where I am and ask her where in the hell SHE is. She finds someone nearby at the BP station who she puts on the phone to explain where the BP station is. Turns out it's in Norwood and I have to turn around and drive a LONG way back down Montgomery Road. And yes, I should have taken that first Montgomery Road exit after all.

When I get to the BP station where she waiting for me, it has been about an hour since my first phone call to her and I am no longer really in the mood to do anything with her. But I have invested all this time and gasoline and she has had to wait almost an hour at the BP station, so I pick her up and head to a little house where she has been staying that day. Again I ask if there will be anyone else there and she says, 'No, I'm there by myself this afternoon. '

We get to the house and I tell her that I need to use the bathroom. She says she needs to check and make sure it is clean and goes into the next room. In a minute she returns and leads me into the next room and points to an open door that is the bathroom.

As I stand there I cast my eyes around a dimly lit room with a bed against one wall. On the bed I see a person covered by a blanket. The person's head is not visible, but one foot is sticking out from under the blanket. It's a big foot. Or at least it is wearing a big boot. I'm thinking that attached to that big foot is probably the leg of a big man. I guess it could have been the foot of a big girl who likes to wear big work boots, but this doesn't seem likely.

What to do? I really have to pee and there's a bathroom right in front of me, so I go into the bathroom and pee. It's not a relaxed moment for me because I am acutely aware that someone could come in behind me at any moment. I'm listening for any sounds from the room behind me, but hear nothing. I zip up and go back into the room with the bed and the boot. The boot hasn't moved. I go through the door and back into the other room where the BSW is removing her shirt and preparing to engage me in a sensual embrace.

There is NO way I'm going to do anything with her in that house with some guy in the next room, so I pull a $20 bill out of my pocket and say, 'You told me there was no one else here. '

She says, 'Don't worry, it's OK, no problem. ' and reaches out for me. I tell her I am not comfortable in this situation and tuck the bill into her bra telling her I am paying her for her time. She says, 'No, no, I don't want you to have spent all this time for nothing. ' I tell her I'm leaving and I do. As I drive away, I see her standing there by the front door and I wave goodbye to her. She waves back. I start thinking about all those AMPs in Dallas.

[QUOTE=Ceenote; 1076428]Was enjoying my first cup of coffee this moring when I immediately recognized Megan's picture on my TV screen. Seems that she wanted LE to arrive quickly at the Interstate to a help with a customer who had received services, but did not pay. So to expedite their arrival she phones it in as a hostage at gunpoint situation. LE arrives and everyone gets busted. Nice to see someone following the rules of not paying up front, but you are supposed to pay afterward!

[url]http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20101012/NEWS010701/310120014/Hooker-calls-police-to-get-john-to-pay[/url][/QUOTE]Did you spit your coffee laughing?

Again, I say: Beautiful Story, Bill!

I am frequently in the Kenwood area where you first got off (no pun intended) on Montgomery Road. I did not think about the BP station situation until your story continued. There are actually two BP stations in Kenwood. One on the right side as you get off the Northbound exit (the one you probably stopped at) and if you turn left off that exit (heading toward Norwood) there is a second BP station at the corner of Kenwood and Montgomery about 1/2 mile away! I was dying laughing because I thought she was at the Kenwood / Montgomery BP and you were at the other, so close but yet so far. To add insult to injury, with a 50/50 chance you picked the wrong direction to head (away from Norwood and BOTH BP stations). And then, you through me for a complete loop when you said she was at the BP station in Norwood!! Too funny.

I'm guessing she doesn't know her way around Cincinnati too well either. There are several better ways to get to the BP station in Norwood than EITHER Montgomery Road exit. But, she must not have known that.

I am very sorry about your misadventure, of course. But, I thank you for the entertaining story. Since it hit so close to somewhere I frequent, it was too perfect not to enjoy. I do hope that Dallas did / does go better for you!

Be safe, be well.

JR.

[QUOTE=Bill Fanta; 1076498]Last Friday I was cruising around some of the standard areas in Cincy and didn't see anything that was very tempting. I headed back to Kentucky planning to take a brief look around Covington before going home. Nothing much in Covington other than a heavy set blond I've seen several times before on Madison or Scott. I gave the blond a close look trying to decide whether to partake and just couldn't bring myself to give her a try.

So I'm thinking about giving up and heading home, but I knew this was my last chance to score before taking a week long trip to Dallas and decided to call the older BSW I have seen 3-4 times in Covington. (BTW, while I wouldn't be trying the SW scene in Dallas, I would be sampling one of the many AMPs there) I call, she answers, I ask if she's available, and she says she is in Cincinnati in a house near Montgomery Road. I ask if there is anyone else in the house and she says she is there alone and would love for me to come over. Since it is still early afternoon and I have nothing else to do, I head back to I-75 and head north.

I call her again when I cross the river and she says to get on I-71 and take the Montgomery Road exit. Now I don't know my way around Cincinnati all that well, but I DO know that there are two Montgomery exits off of I-71, so I ask her which Montgomery Road exit to take. She says the exit that says Dana / Montgomery Road is NOT the one to take, so I head up I-75, go past the Dana Road / Montgomery Road. Exit and continue north. I get off on that second Montgomery Road. Exit, pull into the nearby BP station and call her. She says she is within walking distance of the BP and I should just stay there at the BP until she gets there.

I wait a while, but she doesn't show, so I call again. She's at a BP station she says, but it is NOT the BP station I'm parked at and now I am really confused. She says she can see the street sign and knows that she is at a BP station on Montgomery Road. I pull back onto Montgomery Road figuring that she can't be that far away and if I stay on Montgomery Road I'm bound to see her. Right? Wrong. I drive and drive and drive, finally arriving at Symmes Township. I call her and tell her I where I am and ask her where in the hell SHE is. She finds someone nearby at the BP station who she puts on the phone to explain where the BP station is. Turns out it's in Norwood and I have to turn around and drive a LONG way back down Montgomery Road. And yes, I should have taken that first Montgomery Road exit after all.

When I get to the BP station where she waiting for me, it has been about an hour since my first phone call to her and I am no longer really in the mood to do anything with her. But I have invested all this time and gasoline and she has had to wait almost an hour at the BP station, so I pick her up and head to a little house where she has been staying that day. Again I ask if there will be anyone else there and she says, 'No, I'm there by myself this afternoon. '

We get to the house and I tell her that I need to use the bathroom. She says she needs to check and make sure it is clean and goes into the next room. In a minute she returns and leads me into the next room and points to an open door that is the bathroom.

As I stand there I cast my eyes around a dimly lit room with a bed against one wall. On the bed I see a person covered by a blanket. The person's head is not visible, but one foot is sticking out from under the blanket. It's a big foot. Or at least it is wearing a big boot. I'm thinking that attached to that big foot is probably the leg of a big man. I guess it could have been the foot of a big girl who likes to wear big work boots, but this doesn't seem likely.

What to do? I really have to pee and there's a bathroom right in front of me, so I go into the bathroom and pee. It's not a relaxed moment for me because I am acutely aware that someone could come in behind me at any moment. I'm listening for any sounds from the room behind me, but hear nothing. I zip up and go back into the room with the bed and the boot. The boot hasn't moved. I go through the door and back into the other room where the BSW is removing her shirt and preparing to engage me in a sensual embrace.

There is NO way I'm going to do anything with her in that house with some guy in the next room, so I pull a $20 bill out of my pocket and say, 'You told me there was no one else here. '

She says, 'Don't worry, it's OK, no problem. ' and reaches out for me. I tell her I am not comfortable in this situation and tuck the bill into her bra telling her I am paying her for her time. She says, 'No, no, I don't want you to have spent all this time for nothing. ' I tell her I'm leaving and I do. As I drive away, I see her standing there by the front door and I wave goodbye to her. She waves back. I start thinking about all those AMPs in Dallas. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ceenote; 1076428]Was enjoying my first cup of coffee this moring when I immediately recognized Megan's picture on my TV screen. Seems that she wanted LE to arrive quickly at the Interstate to a help with a customer who had received services, but did not pay. So to expedite their arrival she phones it in as a hostage at gunpoint situation. LE arrives and everyone gets busted. Nice to see someone following the rules of not paying up front, but you are supposed to pay afterward!

[url]http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20101012/NEWS010701/310120014/Hooker-calls-police-to-get-john-to-pay[/url][/QUOTE]Here is another link to the story:

[url]http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/local_news/police%3A-hooker-called-us-to-help-collect-cash-from-her-john%2C-3-arrested-at-motel[/url].

Megan and Donna are both now prime candidates for the "Hall Of Stupid".

I'm wondering about the guy. Was he in the room with them when Megan called the police? Or was he hanging around the notel? Maybe the police had to track him down. The story wasn't clear on the details.

What is interesting to note about what happen to the guy. He as not charged with any prostitution-related charges. He was found to have an open warrant for an OVI and was taken into custody.

So if a SW or an Escort tells police she had sex with a guy, police can't arrest the dude on her word. Interesting.

One thing about these two girls, Megan and Donna, are to be avoided. They will rat any guy out if they're pissed or even make a deal with the police to save their ass.

Here are the two SW's.

This one goes by the street name Secret. [url]http://hamiltoncountyjails.info/?RID=1000033160[/url]

She also has a mother on the streets named Jammie. Has blonde hair and works with her daughter. She also can be a handful if you know what I mean.

The other SW. [url]http://hamiltoncountyjails.info/?RID=1000033161[/url]

The Interstate motel has plenty of LE hanging out in the parking lot at times. This is a real HOT spot to take a chance on picking any girls up. My advice is stay clear.

Harpo2U.

[QUOTE=Harpo2u;1076680]The Interstate motel has plenty of LE hanging out in the parking lot at times. This is a real HOT spot to take a chance on picking any girls up. My advice is stay clear. [/QUOTE]I cannot agree with this enough. Not knowing who or what you will see pulling into Interstate's lot is crazy. (Have you ever had to sit out in a room afterward with LEO sitting in the lot? I would not like that one bit) LEO will put Interstate and other no-tells out of business sooner than later, but I guess the owners have to show cooperation OR ELSE. (A monger friend of mine was once tailed by police clear out of the area and downtown for simply turning around in the No-Tell driveway by Frisch's)

The entire area is just hot, crazy and undoubtedly under constant surveillance making an unobtrusive pickup impossible. Other board members & I have chatted about this privately recently as well.

If only the ladies would spreadout in their stroll. Herding like gazelles is only making LEO the Lion hungry for easy pickings. If you (mongers & SWs) don't make it so damned easy, they will loose interest quickly.

Haven't had any new info to report in a while, but met a WSW on the McMic stroll Sun evening named Tori. She appears to be on the short side and sports a short sort of butch looking hair style. On the initial pass I wasn't certain as to her reason for being on the street and the T-shirt with the large print anti drug slogan didn't help her cause. On my return pass I found her heading up the hilly side street so pulled over and she jumped in. Cute facial features and she looked / smelled clean.

I declined her offer of going to her nearby in-call and instead stuck with the intended car date. We ended up at one of my ususal spots for this area and settled in for the contracted for BBBJ. There was concern initially that perhaps she wasn't a good choice, but found that she was agreeable to following direction. Some adjustments to her technique were made which were found to my liking and in fact I finished much quicker than I would have liked.

On the drop I was teasing her about how her choice of shirts had orignially thrown me off. She looked at it and agreed that maybe she was going to change it before coming back out. She had with her a copy of Locked Up so we were discussing guests of the county. She says J-me is still visiting and I recall PPE#1 stating that she would probably be away for quite some time. Tori also used to room with one of my ATF's Natasha who has been MIA for a long time and according to her is also a county guest.

A friend saw "Snowflake" on McMick near Straight. Pale WSW in a sundress, pleasingly plump, young, long lt brown hair. Had a place for an extra $10, but nobody to let us in, waiting on a busy street (not cool. BBBJCIM in car was rushed, no playing with her nice rack, and demanded I keep a lookout and not watch her. She was tweaking I think. Then she wanted a ride 1/2 way across town. Looks 7, skills 5, attitude 2. And I never got the extra $10 back. Would not repeat.

I noticed a couple of WSWs behind the Interstate Motel and then counted and additional 6 WSWs and 1 BSW by the time I got to the Imperial Theater. Even saw 2-3 in Covington. All of this was about 5:00 PM this afternoon. Maybe the soon to come cold weather has triggered more girls heading for the street? None of these ladies passed my increasingly stringent criteria for a scoop.

BTW, after several fellow forum members have warned about this, I have finally quit using the parking lot of the Interstate Motel as a place to turn into so that I can turn around and head back toward town on McMicken. That whole area around the Interstate Motel is too "hot" for that maneuver.

I made an interesting observation about two weeks ago. I saw a thin, blond WSW behind the Interstate Motel and the spotted her a block or so up McM a few minutes later when I had turned around and headed back toward town on McM. I stayed on McM into town and turned down Race to Liberty and then to Elm. Heading north on Elm I spot the same blond WSW (wearing a black, short-sleeve top and pink pants) getting out of a car and walking across the street to speak to another WSW. No one in the car, so she had driven there by herself. She must have left that spot back on McM within a minute or so of my seeing her in order to get to a car and get to Elm when she did. Just seemed real strange to me and maybe one of you experienced guys has a theory to explain it. LE?

Be careful out there gentlemen. I see that the HIV positive SW Jean Settles was arrested once again for soliciting after being tested positive for HIV. This is a young BSW by the way. Careful Bill, I know this is one of your preferences. If you see her avoid at all costs. As a matter of fact, I'm not sure if it isn't a good idea to let the police know in this case. Attempted murder?? F%#$ her. Here is a photo:

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[QUOTE=Getnati; 1080090]Be careful out there gentlemen. I see that the HIV positive SW Jean Settles was arrested once again for soliciting after being tested positive for HIV. This is a young BSW by the way. Careful Bill, I know this is one of your preferences. If you see her avoid at all costs. As a matter of fact, I'm not sure if it isn't a good idea to let the police know in this case. Attempted murder? F%$ her. Here is a photo:

[ATTACH=CONFIG]113377[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Thanks for the useful intel! I don't recognize Ms. Settles, but I will surely keep an eye out for her.

[QUOTE=Randyman1501;1080784]But it looks like she's due out on Oct 27, barring a longer sentence from an upcoming court date. Either way, beware.[/QUOTE]How can they just let her ass out on the street? That's CRAZY.

Anyways, took a stroll tonight around to different spots and all I saw was the white tranny SW that normally walks W 8th St. Ughh. He thinks he's fooling someone? Otherwise streets were dead, as well as last night. I'll probably have to hook up with my regular pocket girl tomorrow.

BTW Warsaw and Glenway have / are adding cameras along the street. Seen one on the Elder side on a light post. Watch yourselves.

EDIT: Just saw this. Guess this is why: [url]http://www.local12.com/news/local/story/Police-Bust-Dozens-of-Prostitution-Suspects/t_rfyOtKdEuIxirCHe719g.cspx[/url]

I am planning on pulling back a bit from posting and cruising and will post an explanation for this decision shortly, but I want to re-post something that has appeared several times before in this forum. With so many newbies posting recently, it occurs to me that they may not be aware of the 13 additional rules Giani once posted to supplement the 22 rules that may be found through a link on USA Sex Guide's home page. So here they are:

1) Keep a separate "monger's wallet" with only as much $$ as you are willing to lose and a condom or two. Stash your actual wallet with credit cards, driver's license and extra cash in a separate hidden spot.

2) Be VERY cautious if the "SW" on the street looks TOO good I. E, usually they DON'T dress in stilettos, leopard prints, or other obvious hooker outfits. It smells of a sting or a TV.

3) Do not call attention to yourself by making a show out of the stop (no you-turns, no flagrant traffic moves. Pull off onto the next side street, turn off the engine, foot off the brakes. Let her come to you. Alternatively, go smoothly around the block, having caught her eye. Yes, do not pick up if a possible LE car is following you.

4) When you pull up, be willing to drive away immediately if your close-up impression of her through the window is not good. (Sores, too thin, wired, dirty & stinky, sullen or "dead" eyes? SWs are NEVER as good as your first impression driving by at a distance) Tell her you are sorry, you thought she was someone else.

5) If she passes first inspection, ask her if she needs a ride. She should immediately say "Yes" and hop right into the car. Under no circumstances negotiate through the window. The monger's acid test is that stinging decoys will NOT get into the car. (Caution: I have heard rumors that LE will blackmail SWs into serving as decoys who WILL get into the car. However, I do not have definitive data on this) If she insists on negotiating through the window, tell her you thought she was someone else, a friend, and split. Watch out for tailing LE.

6) Once she is in the car, *immediately* leave the "combat zone. " Mongers DO get stopped by LE because a recognized SW is in the car. The test: get a feel of her bare breasts to be SURE she isn't LE. She may grab your crotch to ensure that you aren't LE. Then get a crystal clear understanding of exactly what you want (covered or no, catch or no, swallow or no, FS (SHE should insist on covered, etc) and for exactly how much (plus tip if satisfied. Extensive bargaining is a warning flag of a troublesome SW, and another reason to turn her out.

7) Go to YOUR location unless she has a good reason not to. HER location may include a male friend of hers who will rip you off. If she refuses your spot, you have another reason to turn her out. For FS (do we have to say) ALWAYS cover up. If she offers barebacked FS, DO NOT GO THERE!

8) NEVER give up the $ before you are finished. You can pay a *small* token front, but NEVER the whole amount. This includes (as we have often been asked) request for front money so they can buy some "butter. " If she refuses, then again, tell her "thanks but no thanks. " Once she has your money, she is in control. Money in her hand may mean you will never get into their Bush.

9) The use of drugs is a problem, but try to read what it might be. Crack (butter) leaves them still cogent, able to reason, may make them even make more enthusiastic and not totally out of it, in the experience of many mongers. Crack creates a dependency, but not the kind of withdrawal that becomes a potentially violent emergency for them. Heroin (dog food) addiction on the other hand leads to dangerous situations. If they seem REALLY drugged up, you should not have let them in the car. The difficult truth is that the vast majority of SWs do so to support some habit.

10) Do not let outside people get involved. No answering doors, no second girls, no nothing. You are asking for serious problems.

11) If confronted with a dangerous situation, do not get hostile or seriously argumentative. Tempers flare quickly, to what extent, you may not want to learn. GIVE IT UP. After all, you stashed your wallet and extra $$ elsewhere, right?

12) If you ARE ripped off, publicize the hell out of it on this board with as much descriptive detail as you can. Educate the rest of us about what mistakes you would not make again. Give a detailed description of the SW, exactly where, when, how you connected. Got pictures?

13) Finally, try to get to know those SWs who ARE dependable. They can, and often are willing to advise you about dangerous, HIV positive or drugged out SWs. But remember however, even long-time dependable SWs should not have too much temptation placed in front of them-even they can "grab and run. "

Stay safe-even if the thrill of the hunt is part of the deal, stay safe.

I had my 69th birthday not long ago and it led me to reflect on my participation in the 'hobby' and my posting on this forum. During the past 14 months I've had a few bad experiences, a few good ones, a few humorous ones, and I've posted about almost all of them in hopes of providing something of value for the members of this forum. I've gotten far more from the forum than I have contributed. I've gotten valuable intel, constructive criticism, and friendly advice from several of you and it was always appreciated.

Other than my age, which is definitely a factor, what are the other reasons I will be stepping back from cruising the streets? The main factor is the fear that my activities will be discovered by my wife! If I get caught in a sting or become the victim of a blackmail attempt or get caught in some other way, it could be a huge problem for me. Also, while some of you young bucks may enjoy "car dates, " they are rarely satisfying for me. And if I spring for a motel room, I may as well spend a bit more and get an escort.

One other reason for stepping back from cruising is that after about a year of looking for attractive, young BSWs, the worst possible thing happened. I found one. You may have read my post about Keisha, a 21 year old BSW I picked up on Elm. She was cute, fun to be around, and made me feel as though she enjoyed my company. She was the only SW I ever kissed in my 14 months of mongering and the only one I ever wanted to kiss. I saw her a couple of times and then she disappeared and there was never an answer when I called her cell. Listen, I know most of you reading this are thinking I'm an old fool to become infatuated with a young SW and you are absolutely correct! I realize that I am susceptible to getting emotionally involved with a SW and that is a recipe for disaster.

So my plan is to restrict my mongering to a few providers I have found over the past year who have proven themselves to be safe bets and for whom I have working digits. I'm sure I will still cruise the streets from time to time and I won't promise that I'll never pick up a stranger again, but it's really not likely that I will. I guess I'd have to pick up Keisha if I see her, but if that happens I may be lost.

Please don't interpret this post as an attempt to talk you out of the SW game. If you look at the pros and cons of using SWs and decide to go for it, I wish you the best of luck. If you do your homework by reading the forum, following the 22 rules and the 13 rules Giani provided (see my recent post # 1351) I am 99.9% certain that you will not get caught in a sting and will probably avoid most of the negative experiences that await less prepared, less educated mongers.

Finally, I'the like to take this opportunity to express my gratitude to several members of this forum. Giani has been friendly, helpful, and encouraging right from the start of my membership here. Mr. Boombastic has generously shared his extensive knowledge of BSWs and cruising areas and given me valuable advice all along the way. Harpo2u has sent me friendly advice via PMs that were packed with good intel. Getnati has shown his friendliness in several ways, all of which are very much appreciated. I don't know whether any of these guys is black or white and I don't know their ages, but I consider them my friends nevertheless.

So I'll be lurking more than posting and hoping that all of you stay safe out there.

What we have valued from your posts depends on the point on the time line:

1) Your early posts were so unexpectedly innocent, so honest, so "just what we remember from when we first mongered" Most of us would have been unwilling to acknowledge OUR newbie missteps. I remember that the subject line of one of my first responses to a confessional post of yours in which you described your less than satisfactory recent exploit was "Bill, Bill, Bill... "

2) Your honesty in painting the scenarios of your rides. Your (often naive) role in the drama was engaging and positive. This even in the face of occasional abuse by more experienced street-wise SWs you did not let it bring you down.

3) Your unstinting valuation of the human in the individual, even in the most jaded SW, and, even when in doubt, treating them as valued persons in our society who have had more than their share of harsh and abusive experiences. I know that even the SWs who took advantage of you are grateful that YOU were not an abuser.

4) Of late, your eloquence and deep thoughtful probing of your experiences on the street, and teaching, not only the newbies about the pitfalls, but us jaded veterans about the twists and turns of the 'hobby. " Not to mention how entertaining your descriptive prose is to us all. You have justifiably received many positive reviews of your recent posts.

5) Never were you abusive to other posters, even when they were hostile to you. You, the Budda of the board.

I understand the many factors in 'standing down. ' I suspect you will still take a look at the board periodically, and will be grateful for any pearls you might cast in our direction.

In friendship, Giani

[QUOTE=Giani; 1081935]What have we valued from your posts? It depends on the point on the time line:

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In friendship, Giani[/QUOTE]All of us should strive to the standard of Bill Fanta.

You have many valid points and experiences that are more than worthy of making this decision of yours wise. Having a wife, girlfriend or family makes this hobby a game of Russian roulette. I myself don't have this issue to worry about, and probably would affect my decision to participate though, if I did. Your stories have been detailed and intriguing and are something we all looked forward to reading on this forum. Other posters, including myself, should strive to make our posts as detailed and adventurous as yours. My BBBJCIM last night was in dedication of your fine services provided to the forum. .

On another note, McMicken looks like it is a done deal for now. Saw on channel 5 news video that a 3 month sting operation led to swat team house raids and 18 arrests. That spot is TOO hot. I advise staying away. Walnut Hills and Reading Road down all the way to Reading has lots of potential and confirmed SW scores, as well as other areas around the city. Mcmicken was just an easy place to score with the drugged out SW's that were always working. Diamonds won't be found there, only old dirt. There have been plenty of other better looking girls around that are equally as hungry for the 'mula'. Hope we can get the ball rolling on some of these other stories without fear of LE gaining intel.

Rolled for quite a while tonight ping ponging between the Too Hot Zone and LPH. Saw Stephanie in her usual location in OTR but she has been a regular stop for me and I was up for something different. Otherwise not much to be seen but a couple of skanks so took a break at Richies.

A little off topic, but Richies on Linn St is a decent dinner stop for those that roll this area but have not tried it. I am a fan of their spicy chicken and the potato wedges are awesome too. The gauntlet of people you sometimes have to wade through getting from the car to the door might be intimidating for some, but they also have a drive thru. It was pretty dead tonight though with only one other customer waiting inside with me.

Refreshed I head back to the streets. Missed her once earlier, but when I rolled through the hot zone again about 30 minutes later I met Amber. Found her between Riddle and Straight, but says she usually can be found in the hottest part of the zone. She was by far the best I saw tonight. Dark hair, very clean, nice skin, cute face, fresh make-up, nicely dressed in jeans and a top that exposed a little cleavage along with a spider web tat, and a zippered hoodie over that. She wasn't really overweight, but had some meat on her bones. If she had any addictions there were no signs of it because she basically looked like the girl next door.

BBBJ service was decent, but have to warn you that during our negotiations found out she is a no CIM girl. I was okay this because it was late and I was otherwise pleased with my find. Service was not rushed, but once she sensed that I was getting close she paused and said "now remember to tell me when you're ready" and that fuckin jinxed it for me from there! Couldn't get to my final destination because I was too damn focused trying to recognize early warning signs so that I could give notice. Eventially asked her to use HJ to finish to avoid any possible issues.

She was talkative on the return trip and a wrong turn on my part left us with additional conversation time. She was very laid back and seemed really sincere telling me the story of getting up the guts to leave a bad situation that she had been in. I at least fell for it and sent her with an additional.05 on the drop. Asked if she had digits so that I could help her in the future, but she does not. I would repeat to try FS based on her overall attitude, looks and cleanliness, but otherwise the no CIM makes her a pass if only looking for the quick car date.

[QUOTE=Ceenote; 1082249]Rolled for quite a while tonight ping ponging between the Too Hot Zone and LPH. Saw Stephanie in her usual location in OTR but she has been a regular stop for me and I was up for something different. Otherwise not much to be seen but a couple of skanks so took a break at Richies.

A little off topic, but Richies on Linn St is a decent dinner stop for those that roll this area but have not tried it. I am a fan of their spicy chicken and the potato wedges are awesome too. The gauntlet of people you sometimes have to wade through getting from the car to the door might be intimidating for some, but they also have a drive thru. It was pretty dead tonight though with only one other customer waiting inside with me.

Refreshed I head back to the streets. Missed her once earlier, but when I rolled through the hot zone again about 30 minutes later I met Amber. Found her between Riddle and Straight, but says she usually can be found in the hottest part of the zone. She was by far the best I saw tonight. Dark hair, very clean, nice skin, cute face, fresh make-up, nicely dressed in jeans and a top that exposed a little cleavage along with a spider web tat, and a zippered hoodie over that. She wasn't really overweight, but had some meat on her bones. If she had any addictions there were no signs of it because she basically looked like the girl next door.

BBBJ service was decent, but have to warn you that during our negotiations found out she is a no CIM girl. I was okay this because it was late and I was otherwise pleased with my find. Service was not rushed, but once she sensed that I was getting close she paused and said "now remember to tell me when you're ready" and that fuckin jinxed it for me from there! Couldn't get to my final destination because I was too damn focused trying to recognize early warning signs so that I could give notice. Eventially asked her to use HJ to finish to avoid any possible issues.

She was talkative on the return trip and a wrong turn on my part left us with additional conversation time. She was very laid back and seemed really sincere telling me the story of getting up the guts to leave a bad situation that she had been in. I at least fell for it and sent her with an additional.05 on the drop. Asked if she had digits so that I could help her in the future, but she does not. I would repeat to try FS based on her overall attitude, looks and cleanliness, but otherwise the no CIM makes her a pass if only looking for the quick car date. [/QUOTE]I think I saw her last night on that corner. Wasn't there on the second pass later on. Always keep a bunch napkins in the armrest (Tell people it's in case a pop spills if they ask. Or paper towels somewhere. No CIM isn't a deal breaker for me, that is unless I get it all over my windshield, sunroof, console, steering wheel and seats Ha. That would be a sight to see if LE pulled you over and saw that: "Sir, would you mind telling me what that stuff is all over the inside of your car? Step out of the. Wait. On second thought, stay in the car"

Bill,

Thank you for everything you have offered here. I am not a purveyor of the SW trade and have not always read this thread. However, much of the reason that I started to read the SW Reports thread was your reports. I have enjoyed them greatly. I don't think I can put it any better than Giani, so I will just again say "THANK YOU"

Good luck, Be safe, Be well. Please come back and join us sometimes.

JR.

[QUOTE=Giani; 1081935]What we have valued from your posts depends on the point on the time line:

1) Your early posts were so unexpectedly innocent, so honest, so "just what we remember from when we first mongered" Most of us would have been unwilling to acknowledge OUR newbie missteps. I remember that the subject line of one of my first responses to a confessional post of yours in which you described your less than satisfactory recent exploit was "Bill, Bill, Bill. "

2) Your honesty in painting the scenarios of your rides. Your (often naive) role in the drama was engaging and positive. This even in the face of occasional abuse by more experienced street-wise SWs you did not let it bring you down.

3) Your unstinting valuation of the human in the individual, even in the most jaded SW, and, even when in doubt, treating them as valued persons in our society who have had more than their share of harsh and abusive experiences. I know that even the SWs who took advantage of you are grateful that YOU were not an abuser.

4) Of late, your eloquence and deep thoughtful probing of your experiences on the street, and teaching, not only the newbies about the pitfalls, but us jaded veterans about the twists and turns of the 'hobby. " Not to mention how entertaining your descriptive prose is to us all. You have justifiably received many positive reviews of your recent posts.

5) Never were you abusive to other posters, even when they were hostile to you. You, the Budda of the board.

I understand the many factors in 'standing down. ' I suspect you will still take a look at the board periodically, and will be grateful for any pearls you might cast in our direction.

In friendship, Giani[/QUOTE]

Be careful of the street walkers and the working girl house in camp Washington as a friend of mine who works out of district #5 Leo is watching everyday for the John's who try and pick them up. So be careful. He said that they have camera's setup to record what's going.