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Hi everyone,

Had a good and bad experience tonight at the MSC

I went to MSC for the first time tonight, entering with some trepidation having read through all the warnings on this site about being ripped off, so I sat myself down to watch the show, telling all the girls who came to sit down beside me that I was watching the Japanese porn video (true too!).

I knew how lapdances worked, and had some idea of prices in the back, but didn't really understand the system.

Finally a large black woman from the Caribbean came up to me, and started grabbing me through my pants, at which point my 'little brain' took over, and I agreed to $60 for FS or $40 for BBBJ, even though my big brain knew it was too good to be true. We went to the back, and I paid my $10 entrance fee. I had told her I had been there many times, but I guess when I tried to take a right instead of going straight up the left after getting my ticket (and after not taking the ticket from the guy on the right and handing it to the guy on the left), she knew I was a newbie. We got to the booth in the back, and asked me for $20 for the booth. I was nervous the whole time about getting ripped off, so I seemed nervous and rushed, as if I was hurrying her to get to the action. I gave her the money, but after she put it in the machine, the light didn't go on. She went out to call for an assistant, who came and together they spent about 1 minute fixing the light bulb. By then about $12 remained in the booth meter (I found out later the booth meter doesn't really matter at all, some girls don't even put money in I was told by a nice blonde stripper who explained the system to me after). I started accusing her of going slow. Then she whips out tissue paper and disinfectant and starts cleaning the booth where I'm supposed to sit, saying that there could be germs there. Is this normal?? By the time I was sitting there with my pants down, about $5 was on the meter. I was sure I'd have to put more in. Then she asked for the $40, which I gave her. She put on a condom, and started sucking for about 15 seconds. Then she asked for another $20. I decided I wasn't gonna get ripped off, and said no. She finally agreed to $10, but I said I'd give her afterwards. Meanwhile, she was putting lotion on my penis, tempting me some more. The meter had run out, but it didn't seem to matter. Finally we both said forget it at about the same time. She started mumbling about how I was dirty and probably had AIDS, how did I expect a BBBJ for $40, etc. Looking back, I don't know how or if she was intending to rip me off, or if she got put off by my distrustful attitude.

I went back to the large theatre, and found the blond girl I mentioned who explained it was $10 to go in the back, and usually $20 for the booth, though some girls didn't ask for that, including her. She told me that money didn't exactly go to the girls, but went towards some kind of quota system. I twasn't mandatory to put money in the meter.

Finally I located a black girl I liked. She just finished fighting with a customer, and I asked her what it was about. She said she offered the guy a free sample in the back, and he wanted to take it in the lap dance area. Afterwards, he refused to pay, but she said that it was just a straight lap dance, the free sample only took place in the back. I told her I never heard about a free sample, she said it means she strips down to show her goods, then the customer can decide what he wants. I protested that it costs $10 each time to go to the back (the ticket guy at the back told me that!), she said that with my stamp I can go in and out after paying once. She took me back there, and sure enough I got through without paying since they recognized me and checked my stamp. Really strange, since I got that stamp when I paid $20 to enter MSC, not when I paid $10 to access the back area.

Anyways, before going in a booth, I said I didn't have much money, and she said $60 for a BJ was OK. I offered $50, and she agreed. We go in the back, and I give her the money, plus $2 for a condom. She had an excellent attitude, and put a lot of effort into the CBJ, although I had drank alcohol (my excuse for letting my little head take over this evening, for those of you wondering how I could get take so easily!) and wasn't easy to arouse. She would have finished me off with her mouth, but she gave me the feeling that she actually liked me and wanted more. After about 5 minutes she asekd if I wanted sex, I said I didn't have much money. She asked me how much I had, I said only $30. She said OK, so I gave her the $30. She then continued the CBJ, and I was about to cum, so I said 'stop stop stop'. She anticipated my lack of control, and quickly turned around and said hurry get in. I tried, but came before I could enter her. I entered her anyways, and tried what I could. Afterwards she told me her name was Destiny, and that she really enjoyed the penetration, and that I could come back anytime for the same money ($80) and we could do oral, FS, Greek, anything I wanted. I'm pretty sure I could go back with less than $80 and she'd be fine. Definite good vibes there, and I could definitely go back to her next time when I'm sober and physically more prepared. With the entrance fees, the total would be $110 maximum for FS and maybe more.

OK, hope I don't sound like total idiot from the first part, I can't believe I got taken in after going in the theatre prepared. Thinking about getting ripped off took away from my enjoyment of the evening, and possibly even led to my getting ripped off. I learned something about human nature tonight, at least my own! Need to stay cool.

Cheers,

Sky Muffin

Skymuffin,

I used to get around to MSC about twice a month when I lived in SF. Things have changed, and so have the girls, but the first girl sounds freakily like one I met back when. Did she have a high-pitched Jamaican accent?

The girl I'm talking about, bizarro of bizarros, pulled out a surgical glove to use as a rubber and cracked open a really strong medicinal kind of lotion as a lube. I took one look and whiff (mentholated fumes filled the booth, holy shit) and slammed it in reverse, veering over for the less-nasty of the two Nasty Mimis (one C for FS at the time, small Filipina of above-average looks).

It sounds like Whitney Ferris and all the other hot ones skip MSC nowadays. My own favorite trick was FS with the headline act just after her dance--if it wasn't for crazy money.

BTW, is Really Nasty Mimi still there? You would've seen her: always-naken asian often found standing and eating a pizza slice by the entrance to Sin City. Looks Vietnamese but is actuall Filipina. Dragon-lady, painted-on eyebrows and eyeliner. Gawd help us all.

Are there really sw on Filmore street? Because I saw that movie the American Pimp and I wanna know if its true.

HEy guys do you have any info on CEO on Bush street!

Triple X,

Ceo on Bush street is definately full service. I went there once and they wanted $200 for FS. I just laughed at her. Gave her $40 for a HJ. The girls there are nothing special but I haven't been there for a year.

CEO is a TAMP. You should get a pretty good massage in this place. HJ is the most you can get in the happy ending part. Fee will be .4 or .5 per hour (not sure) and tip of .4 for happy ending otherwise just .1 or .2 tip if the legit part is enjoyable.

Sky Muffin,

From your description, sounds like you ran into the infamous Cappucino. BBW, carrying a bag full of TP, disinfectant, etc., extremely aggressive. If you had checked this board and others, probably would have been warned off.

Way back before she became famous, I ran into Cappucino at the "old" New Century. She offered to give me a tour of the back booths. When we were back there and I didn't take her up on any of her offers, she literally kicked me in the ass!

Hey Velcro:

I was in SF in the summer at MSC and ran across the chick you're describing (looked Vietnamese to me)- the drawn on eyebrows were a dead giveaway. Kind of aging woman, but looks good for her age- really freakin crass too, mouth like a sailor. She caught me so off guard, I couldn't help but start laughing and this made her go off even more. I almost went for that, but saw some young talent around that I went for instead.

I didn't have a bad experience there and it was my first time there. The whole "free lapdance" stuff is a total scam- went downstairs, paid the $10 and then the girl went crazy and invited a friend. I said no way and bailed. My friend wasn't so lucky and got caught paying $80 for nothing (dont ask me). I sat in the dark like a pervert and picked the one I wanted- small, hot asian with a dynamite body and then later some filipino girl who had even a better body. The whole experience blew me away.

Im sure its a place where people get ripped all the time. Use your head, be smart and you'll be ok.

Be safe

GOON

Hi guys,
Thank for the info through this wonderful WSG.Iam enjoying my visit in SF.
I went to MBOT the first time I got chance (traveling with friends who doesnt know my side hobby)
It was in the afternoon around 1 O'Clock. For me, the place was quite nice and medium size.
The girls as this forum had tell me, was great. They are all in the 7-9, one stunner 10 I believe her name is Tracy.
Too bad I didn't got a chance to meet her up close and personal, she is always go backstage after her perfomance.
Went to one of the room that you stand in the booth while the girls is dancing.
Got an offer from two stunning blondes, Channel and I forgot the other, Anyway they are beautiful and grinding me intensely.
They offer me $200 for CBJ ( Idon't know if this is a good price or not, having visit this establisment once)
So we all got naked in the private booth, and one start to play with herself while Channel give me a decent BJ.
It was a great view to see this 2 pretty blondes after me, and they should won an oscar for pretending to like me too.
All an all, the experience was great total damage $220 ( $20 for the room.
I stayed another couple hour enjoying the view and the dance there, where finally I want my finall act there.
There was one girl who is very friendly to me, talk to me all the time, Unfortunatelly I forgot her name, tracy, stacy, I dont know.
She is not a stunner but judging from her attitude, she is going to be great.
Unfortunatelly my expectation was too high. She ask me the private booth standard $100 we all get naked but refuse to give me more than a view.
After calm negotiation she agree that I watch her play herself while I can play with myself.
Wasn't the greatest offer I had but WTH, she is nice.
She also should won and oscar too for the " play with herself and enjoying it every strokoe" Her pandora box was just 2" away from mine. what a view.
Overall, my visit there was quite enjoyable, I gave it an 8.
It was heavy on the money side ( spend almost $400 for many dances and CBJ and myself)
However, I am please with the ambiance of the club and the attitude of the girls.
Next stop AMP, to be continue...

2nd round,
As I notice in this thread, AMP is the way to go.
So I did takes your advice guys, and it was well worthed, Thank you.
I was confuse which one to choose at first, GF? Lee's? or King's?
But it it was Kings that is stand out because the good review and I saw their ad in a newspaper.
Also the location is quite secluded but easy to find.
Upon my arrival, mamasan buzzed me, and proceed to sign in, paid the $50 entrance fee
( could you guys explain to me what this procedur for? never quite figure it out)
I was quite disapointed at first as there were only 3 girls to choose from.
To my surprise mamasan decided to choose for me. Being horny and a bit disoriented, I agree.
Out of the 3 girls, Seven ( i swear it was her name, later she gave me her name card) She was not the stunner.
She was quite tall 5.8" with heel, nice petite body, A full B cup on the brink of C.
Whatever she lack in appearance, she surely make it up in the service.
Usuall bid at first, showering ( sharing with other monger hehehe you guys seem very happy :) )
The massage was great she know how to loose man's sore muscle.
And the turn around, she ask "just massage" I said no, and how much" she said $100, I said Ok, very simple.
Mutual touching and kissing, DFK, and some mediocre CBJ. The technique of inserting the rubber was great though.
She want to hop in right away but I refuse, DATY first i said, she said Ok.
To my surprise she was really wet after That, light fingering also made hear moan, so I must do something right then.
Follow by a very GFE intercourse in various position.
I really enjoy the session with her, she is very genuine and GFE. I recomend her to any of you.
All in all, I gave the "massage" 8.5 - 9 total damage $150.
If I had time and chance I would definetly visit them again later this day. will let you know the outcome later.

Cheers!
PS, I saw a lot of strip joint in Sf such as Century, right next to MBOT, centerfold and de javu in broadway, how come no report I could find here,
Are they that bad? also I cruise O'farrel, california, hyde, at 10pm but no visible street action, any lead?

Hi to all,

I read couple of SF review and saw MBOT. Would you guy please let me what is MBOt stands for?

Thank you,

Chicago

Mitchell Brothers O'Farrell Theater (on O'Farrell @ Polk Street). Most upscale club in town offering "extras". A Legendary stripjoint which was one of the first fully nude clubs in US. Google the name to find their website. You have NEVER seen ANYTHING like it in Chicagoland (with Boston the WORST place in USA which is REALLY saying something as this country is the pits for p4p!), TRUST ME.

Seems only outoftowners posting here. Crazy Mimi (Of MSC fame) is Taiwanese, not Filipina. There is a SAn Francisco only board with WAY more detailed info, but I am not sure if Jackson allows posting of links to other websites so this might get deleted but it is called sfredbook.

Sorry for the delay of this post as this happened on January 7.

This is my annual trip to San Francisco for MacWorld.

I checked out the board before I came to town and got some good info, thanks. But after looking at all of the options I decided to stay with where I had been before and had always had a great time. I was going to stick with Kings.

After I checked into the hotel I called Sherry, I saw her last year at Kings and she gave me her cell, but there was no answer so I left a message for her with the my hotel number.

I was tired from the trip so I decided I would walk up to Market Street and get a bite to eat and call it a night. While at the Burger King I saw this young blond come in and she walked around talking to everyone like she knew them. She made her way around to me and asked if I had any money. I told her sure I do what have you got in mind. She stopped dead in her tracks, smiled at me and sat down. She said how about 20? I asked for what? She thought for a moment and said how about a BJ. I asked how much for sex? She said how about 50. I told her I was staying at a hotel close by and we could go there and she could take a shower and clean up so how about 40. She said that the shower sounded great and 40 was ok. I finished my burger while she ate my fries and drank my coke then we left for the hotel.

She said her name was Kathy and was from Kansas City. She was 22 years old, about 5ft 6in and I guess about 140lbs, not bad looking and although she wasnÕt strung out she was a crack head.

We got to the hotel and she was really nice and thanked me for the chance to clean up. I handed her a robe and she went into the bathroom and closed the door. When she came out smiling and wearing that robe she looked like a new person as she walked over to me and sat down on the bed. She pulled back the covers and started rubbing until I was hard. She got up, removed the robe, climbed up on the bed, I gave her a condom and she put it on and gave me a very good BJ. When I had enough I stopped her and had her lay on her back and got on top of her. It was nothing great but it was it worked for me at the time. When I finished I rolled off and we laid for a little while. I got up and said something about how late it was and she said she had to go and got up and got dressed. When she was ready to go she gave me a hug and I gave her the 40 and she left.

Mike

ReallyaNiceGuy...


Excellent work! Instead of paying retail or risking a LE encounter with a sw, you got what you wanted in a safe evironment where you were in control and could get a good look at the girl. And as a bonus, you kept your cool and negotiated her price down in exchange for a shower. Bravo!

You were observant and found a pay for play situation as part of a normal non-cruising routine.

This shows that those of us who cruise the tracks and hit the MPs are only scratching the surface of this hobby. There are girls out there who need the cash and will fuck for it. With a little work a monger can notice them and see what happens.

And this was at a great rate too, which shows that the same service occurs at many different price levels.


BTW, I'm from LA. I was on the Metro subway at 7:30 AM and this girl gets on who basically looked like a crack girl who had been up all night. Tattoos, braless with nips poking out and listening to headphones so loud I could hear them. She was zoned out with that gurgling sniffle I'm beginning to recognize is a side effect of the crack use.

She got on in Hollywood, heading downtown. Probably going back to a cheap hotel crash pad after a night of drugs and sex with the drug providers.

There you go. This would be the kind of girl to approach.

If you have the balls, the deal is to approach them on the street and suggest that they come back to your location.

Bottom feeding, yes. But fun.