Korean Agency BB

[B]The Legend of Viviana[/B]
[QUOTE=MudSkipper26;7528034]Is she being gate kept? I haven't heard anything about her in months. Why not she's the best.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osori84;7528991]And gatekept too? I was under the impression you were pretty well acquainted with her. IIRC, that's what you've posted.

How can Viviana be gatekept? She's been well reviewed, most, if not all, have been positive.

She has been around quite a while and with her ads, stating singles, duos and trios, on a lot of Korg sites.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7530282]If Viviana rebranded, and people didn't talk about her, or spread misinformation, then I'd suspect gatekeeping.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7531764]The answer is probably much simpler. Viviana is wonderful, but she's been around for a long time. She's well known on the LA hobby scene. Nobody is gatekeeping her. There's just not much more to say about her that hasn't already been said.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MudSkipper26;7533727]I'm calling bullshit. I asked two bookers very close to me if Viviana is being booked full day and they both told me no. So that's bullshit. She always charges money so telling us that she doesn't charge you for staying overnight is a lie and she never has overnight guests, that's not her style and if you really really know her, you know her that's not her style. She doesn't do any OTC unless you take her shopping like I did and buy her a full line of jewelry at Bulgari that you mongers see when you see her. Everybody else is just a job. That's how you become a special VIP like me. She told me I'm her special VIP number one and then there are two other VIP but not special like me. She's got two parking passes at her new place in Hobart for multiple hour bookings and I have one, who's got the other? Ask Vivian and she can confirm everything that I've said so you know I'm not full of shit but you are.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HiKeke;7534252]I've actually cringed for the first time on this forum reading your post LOL. Never say never with ANY working kgirls. Long time veterans should know that's never true and you are just make believing if you really trust everything (or anything) these kgirls tell you.

Trust me when I say this, for your own good, Viviana is no different.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osori84;7534625]"You can tell when a Kgirl is lying, it's when her lips are moving"!

My add on, just not in DFK or BBJ, but you never know![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Heizenberg;7533730]Can't we just enjoy the girls!! No need to fight there is plenty of K girls for all of us.

FYI Viviana is one and done for me too bony ass. I like some meat to grab on too.[/QUOTE]

Note that all of the girls listed below are worth seeing for most guys, including Viviana. But if you read reviews carefully, maybe you can skip to your ATF first try. [I]It is a different girl for every guy[/I]. You'll have to figure it out:

[QUOTE=NotHobbyPro;7535140]Although I had a good time with Viviana, I think there are other better options imo. I would easily pick [B]Tifa[/B] over Viviana because of better service and bigger tits for the same all in price. [B]Nali[/B], if you can book her, is better looks for the same all in price as well. [B]Mina[/B] for better tits and price. [B]Jenny K[/B] for better service and price. If Viviana drops her hr bb msog price to 340-360, she might be a good alternative to repeatable girls with consistent market like [B]Collete[/B]. But to each his own. Repeating, all are my opinion.[/QUOTE]

Or for more mature girls with higher service:

[QUOTE=Majieroero;7535177]All the girls you mentioned are premium BB MILF girls imo. All have something unique to bring to the table. I'd add the likes of [B]Hwasa, Maya, Ella, and Lucy[/B] in the mix as they're all high quality service queens too, with different looks and tastes. They all kind of fall in the same bucket for me. One isn't necessarily much better than the other. It's just up to my mood of the day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NotHobbyPro;7535511]Correct. I tend to swing to the service side more. I think Viviana is in the same age range as them or getting close.

On the ones you mentioned, [B]Hwasa[/B] was ok to try once when she was in 350 all in but now that she's 400, I'd skip her. [B]Ella[/B] can already be gilf, good fun bags but looks too old. Maya and Lucy are on my list.[/QUOTE]

Such discussions are why this thread is superior to TER. There's nothing wrong about TER other than it doesn't have a way to support this. You can follow-up with details and get the nuance. Even honest TER reviewers can write things that confuse without context. Like if they say a MILF is hot that can be true from their POV but if they also leave out the MILF part, it can shipwreck a different guy. Here, a guy can follow-up and say "Yeah I like MILFs", and there is even a HYA thread to reduce those mixups. Many guys love mature girls and the service is obviously there and superior. So it is a good thing to have a variety of opinion and different tastes.

[QUOTE=Osori84;7535459]IIRC, he always talked about outcalls to his house. Said he gave her a couple of pieces of jewelry worth $20 grand and was going to get one more worth $12 or $15 grand.

Also talked about getting Viviana / Vivian a place of her own and take her off the market. I figured if it was true I wanted to see her one more time before she left, but was pretty sure she would be back, as history repeats itself.

So, when I saw her and asked if she was leaving, I didn't say anything about the posts just a random question in kick back time, she said she would be around for a long time.[/QUOTE]

PSEunsubbed: [I]I don't understand what you're getting at. I have her direct contact information so the bookers won't know anything about her coming to see me at my hotel. Why would I go through the bookers when I can set it up with Viviana directly? Also, I don't understand this thing about having a parking pass? She's coming to visit me at my hotel and staying with me there so why would I need a parking pass at the apartment complex? If you did all that just to earn a parking pass at her place then more power to you. It seems like it would have been cheaper to just rent an apartment there LOL.[/I]

[QUOTE=PounderMC;7535768]Free overnight pussy delivered, you have the upper edge bro.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MudSkipper26;7535595]Appreciate all of the banter and responses about Viviana. Marketing 101.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osori84;7536583]Talk is cheap.

With these games, you just might hurt her business.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7545716]The fact that she likely rebranded as Divine, may or may not be related to this comedy.[/QUOTE]

I think that sums it up.

What is the best way to help a girl who has good looks, good service, or both? Just review her. No drama, and the girl is less likely to rebrand.

[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7228410&viewfull=1#post7228410[/URL] Viviana Meta review

Viviana has fans and is worth seeing for some people. All people need to know is her pros and cons to figure it out. But there is a lot of competition so once a girl has been around a long time it's hard. I did a Meta review of her a year ago, and reposted it a year later. The above is a good example where if you are a fan of a girl, the best policy is to just review her accurately. Long-tour girls want regulars, so hype doesn't help them. It's enough to just list her pros and cons, and then new true fans will show up.

[QUOTE=MisterDotD;7545876]Oh is that her! Well damn, I guess the lore is deepen then. I noticed her old TER got yeet-ed as well.[/QUOTE]

If your key criteria is spinners, Viviana is an easy rec. The same way a strictly GFE only guy clicks a filter in his head and then 90% of kgirls disappear from consideration. If a guy knows what he really wants, it's straightforward.

[QUOTE=Download X;7535281]Drama is true suffering. Imagine a butterfly lands on a flower to taste its sweet nectar only for the flower to ask "buy me a line of jewelry" or "give me a loan". No, just fly off to the next flower. [B]Flowers do not last[/B].[/QUOTE]