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[QUOTE=JulesJordan;2021235]There were 9 dancers (one 8, mostly 7's, a few 6's, and almost a 50/50 colored to non-colored ratio) with about 16 customers when I arrived. Shortly after receiving my drink I was approached by two dancers that didn't interest me. After 45 minutes of hanging out Madison (white, mid 20's, brunette, taller thin build with Acup tits) approached me and we did some small talk then ended up agreeing on no song count half and half for $.2.
In the VIP Madison stripped down then she gave me an ok warm up dance. Next she performed BBBJ, her skills were decent with some DT and licking the top. I did FIV to warm up her giner then I suited up. K9 was nothing special, she wasn't very tight and was quiet. We switched to CG, she got into it alittle more and after two songs of riding she climbed off removed the cover then gave me a BJ with a CIMWS finish.
I've read and heard mixed things about Madison and overall our unrushed session was slightly above average due to a decent BJ and the CIMWS finish but I probably wouldn't repeat with her.[/QUOTE]Thanks JJ,
As usual another great report.
Madison is on my skip list. I continue to find reviewing your report helps me decide who to avoid and who to approach.
This is a big help for out of towners who don't have the luxury of being able to do as much of our own research as we would like.
Marelobo.
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[QUOTE=NewDude;2021292]We bs for a minute and I then make a rookie mistake. I go into the back without making arrangements. We get back there and tells me she doesn't "freak" and I'm thinking damn I literally just wasted my time and the rest if my day shift hours on this bum. Anyway I leave her and the club and chalk it up as a lost.
Head over to ace of spades were I am much more pleased with the talent. Unfortunately all the hot ones are preoccupied and not making rounds after there set. I setlled (which I try to never do) and ended up in the with an older hustler type who gave me a BBBJ that was mostly hand. Damn what a wasted night. I tend to stick to black clubs back home due to the much better value but here I guess the white clubs are better. Is my consensus correct? Or did I just get bsed? By every girl I talked to.[/QUOTE]ND,
I feel your pain reading your report, but come on man, you are doing it to yourself. Stop making rookie mistakes and you will have a lot better time. These peeler read people for a living and if they read you as rookie you will continue to get bsed into mostly handjobs.
Rookie alerts;.
Go to the back with out making arrangements, easy to fix.
Choose one that doesn't freak, clarify before leaving your table.
All the hot one are occupied, wait man wait, they won't be occupied for hours most guys can't even last 15 minutes.
Settling, I have occasionally settled and it usually ends up as it did for you. Save your money for next time and don't settle.
Bsed by every girl I talk to, this is your fault stop letting them bs you. Call them on it and change their behavior.
BBBJ turned into a hand job, I don't even need to comment on this one.
I don't think this is a black club or a white club thing, you can have a good time at both clubs for very reasonable prices. You can make it happen, most of the rest of us do.
MM.
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Kyra @ BT's
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2034369]LC,
As you need to counter offer. $5 was her starting price and she figured if you were willing to pay it she would take it. She was expecting a counter like $1 and you very likely could have reached a deal that you would be happy with and left with less cash and bigger smile on your face.
MM.[/QUOTE]Kyra is a fun little spinner. Although I paid 140 for DFK, DATY, CBJ & CFS, I've heard reports of her price coming down to 110. As usual YMMV.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyBoy14;2021367]Does BT club all girls have menu or just some? And how the VIP is it a room or curtain. What about bouncer tips?[/QUOTE]JB,
All girls at BTs do not have a menu. But 80% have a menu for all guys. There are some that will have a menu if she likes you or don't think you are that creepy. There are some that have no or limited menu on this visit but will have a wider menu on future visits.
The VIP has a curtain. If you need a door to feel comfortable this could be an issue. I have never found it to be a problem as I am so focused on the naked peeler pleasuring me. I do think it is a bit of a turn on that you can hear people walking by in the hallway. Sometimes I like to stand up next to the curtain and have her blow me, be cause I think it fun to have people walking by while I am getting a blow job. Sometime I like to position her so her heals are visible at the bottom of the curtain while she is blowing me because again I think it would be fun to see that view from the outside of the curtain.
Although honestly if you told me a hot sexy teenage or early twenties girl is willing to suck my dick, you could take the curtain off and I would happily receive the BJ or put me up on the main stage and let her go at it. I wouldn't care at all as long as she ends up making me cum.
It is 20 bouncer tip every time you go to the VIP. It is a total rip off, and everyone hates it including me. The only possible good thing I can see it that many guys refuse and go to other clubs so there is less attention for each peeler you like. Guys are not really willing to do sessions for just dances once they pay that 20 dollar fee, so most peelers have a menu and they know their are only so many guys they can go with each night, so there menu is available for most us.
All the positives I point out could be easily handled by simply having more peelers and more VIP rooms instead of 20 dollar per trip tax. Despite this tax it is still my personal favorite club.
MM.
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[QUOTE=Dmich3;2021838]Headed last night (Friday) with a buddy to an all time fav, the LS in Rom. Always have a great time and rarely disappointed in the quality of dancers there. About a 70/30 mix, W-be that night. Saw a pretty, slim, tight spinner named Taya. We chatted a bit and I asked about extras. She said she only liked to talk about menu options downstairs in private. Bucking the sage advise of this site and not pre-negotiating BEFORE heading to the VIP, off we went. We got down to business as soon as the curtain was shut and she informed me that her "discounted rate" for BBBJ was $ and full service was $ I told her I didn't want to marry her, only rent her for a few songs. She seemed offended that I thought her prices were too high and I said I have had model quality dancers at this same club provide the same for .5, but since she was definitely someone I wanted to try out, I offered $. She said she knew what she was worth and that she could get up to $1 k for FS on the outside. I laughed and told her that is why she was sitting in a sticky SC booth offering a BJ to a complete stranger. At that point I was getting tired of her BS and said just be a good peeler and give me a couple of songs, old school with no extras. She said ok, but her price was .5 per song, double the actual. I was done with her at that point and was pissed that I wasted time with someone with such an out of touch self opinion of herself. To get a dig in, I peeled off .25 and said this was the first time I ever paid someone to go away and went back upstairs to the bar. I mentioned to the bartender what happened and he couldn't have been more accommodating. He offered to buy me a replacement dance, kept shoving free drinks to my buddy and I, and even threw 7 free admissions cards our way. He said he had had a few complaints about Taya before and didn't want to lose us to another club. Ended up having a great time with the other, more accommodating peelers that night and will definitely continue enjoying the LS. Just want all of you brother mongers to avoid Taya like the plague. If she gets hit in the pocketbook big enough, she will either change her attitude and finally get a repeat customer, or leave the business altogether.[/QUOTE]Dmich, you report made me laugh.
Thanks for the warning on Taya, I will definitely stay away. And I like how the club handled you were fortunate in that regard.
You should have known you were in for trouble when you didn't negotiate ahead of time. Don't make that mistake again. And as soon as it went bad you should have walked out. You are kind of lucky she was so bad that you didn't start the session if you did she could have made it much worse for you.
I loved your snarky comments because of course they are so true. But I could see any peeler being a little offended if you said those things to her especially if you said them with attitude. My style would be a bit less snark.
MM.
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[QUOTE=LuvtheLife;2024881]Staying in Southfield, thought I would check LC since it was closer, what a dump, I am a big guy and there are girls in that place that couldn't put my underwear on. Moved on to Jags, just a little too ghetto for me, so back to the Toy Chest. Night shift was rocking with several lookers including a 20 year old that was thin, tall, with a great ass. She started only offering dances but tried to get to come back for 1 ben for CFS, I declined as I am BBBJ guy. Was approaced by a young 24-25 year old, 5' 2" spinner, nice hair, great eyes, nice be's, nice ass. We agreed to 1 ben for BBBJTC and it was absolutely the best one I have ever had in a place like this. She did not spill a drop and even licked the leakage afterwards like a lolipop. I know I shouldn't change the econs but I tipped her an extra 20. Next time I am in town I will be back to see her again.[/QUOTE]LtL,
Excellent report, it makes me want to go to Toy Chest.
I don't think you changed the econ with you tip. If her BJ was above expectations I think it fair to say that was one of best blowjobs I have had, I want to give you a tip for being so good.
I think a 20 dollar tip for average service would be econ foolish or a 40 dollar tip for your service. That is about the price range I tip if I feel a peeler has done more than she needed to and I would like to repeat with her.
MM.
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[QUOTE=Sphunter;2026054]The only thing is she demanded money upfront which I reluctantly did but it worked out. Her name was Tara. [/QUOTE]Sphun,
You are lucky it worked out. Clearly there are some honest peeler and if they can get you to pay up front, why not.
You were careless and if other copy your behavior, it could end badly for them.
Most peelers no the game and don't even ask. If she asks you it can frequently go bad.
I would encourage you not to that again.
MM.
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[QUOTE=SteveBlack;2027004]You have to be more aggressive if you want attention, most afternoons. Be sure to sit in a high traffic area, like near the dressing rooms. Also, but sure to be seen spending money. That means don't just sit at the bar, but buy from the waitress, and tip her. More than once. I like to get chummy with the wait staff as most guys just want them to go away. After my second tip, I sometimes ask them to send over dancers I want to meet, if they aren't circulating. Be sure to stage tip a couple of times, too. This shows the girls watching that you do have money.
I understand if you are on a tight budget, but if you are coming in from out of town, you need to set yourself up with the best chances for success. Of course I do the same thing as you when I don't get what I want. "Settle for Bogies!" LOL.[/QUOTE]Punter85,
Steve is giving you many good suggestions. I would add that stage tipping is very effective. I like to watch the rotation and I usually tip all the 8 and 9 one dollar. If you figure that any given night this is about 5 peelers and you watch three rotations that is 15 dollars. Not very much to spend. You are telling her you are interested in a dance from her, but she sees you tip others also so you are not only interested from her.
If you ever become interested in only 1 peeler you have lost your ability to negotiate. Always look at it as 1 of these 3 or 4 peelers is going to make me happy.
When you have the waitress send them over which I have done also, they know you want them, and they come over because the waitress sent them. I have sometime found some that did not want to negotiate with me likely because something about me turns them off. With the stage tipping they have to make the effort to come over and when she does that I at least know she is marginally interested or not repulsed by me.
Only piece of advise that doesn't apply for me, is I never settle for Bogies.
MM.
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[QUOTE=JulesJordan;2027328]There were 20 dancers (some 8's, mostly 7's, very few 6's with a 30/70 colored to non-colored ratio) and about 45 customers when I arrived. Shortly after receiving my beer I was approached by Lotus (21 years old, Latino, brunette, slightly curvy body with Bcup tits, a few body tats) and we clicked right away, she is a total sweetheart. My friend was interested in a tight body early 20's tanned brunette spinner named Star, Lotus was helpful in having Star stop by to chat. Lotus and I decided on no song count BBBJ w / CFS for $.2. Star ended up being BJ only so my friend sent her on her way. After her stage set Lotus and I headed to the VIP.
In the VIP we felt each other up then did lots of DFK and I sucked on her tits. Her BBBJ skills were excellent with licking the top, DT, sack licking, and some eye contact. I did DATY (which is rare for me) to her nice giner then suited up and did FIV before going in. CG was first, she was fairly tight and got wet fast and we made out during the ride. We switched to K9 and she was energetic and yelled when she came. It was hot how she was yelling my name and telling me not to stop. We went back to CG and as I was getting near the finish line I told her and she climbed off removed the cover then give me a nice CIMWS finish. Afterwards, I went to the men's room and cleaned up to prepare for whatever other fun that might come my way.
I returned to my table and ordered another beer then shortly after Tina (21 years old, Russian, brunette, nice tight / slightly muscular body with firm Bcup tits, no tats that I recall) stopped by to chat. Tina was upfront about her services but I needed some time to recover so we chatted for about an hour then we decided on no song count BBBJ w / CFS for $.2.
In the VIP Tina stripped down we felt each up other up (her ass and upper legs were rock solid) then we did some DFK and I sucked on her tits. Her BBBJ skills were decent with DT and some gagging. I did FIV to get her nice giner warmed up then I covered up. First was K9, she was fairly tight and energetic. We switched to CG and she rode it like a maniac, I'm surprised that the cover didn't break. During CG she was called on stage so we had to stop so she could tell the bouncer to skip her, after that she got alittle pissy about having to pay the skip fee and she told me that I had to finish soon. She tried to give me a CIM finish but it was difficult due to my prior session still being fairly recent so I put on another cover and we did K9 until finish.
Overall, Lotus is a very nice and cute girl that provides a great GFE that's totally unrushed. Tina is a cute girl with a nice body that provides a decent BBBJ with solid FS action and she's worth sampling.[/QUOTE]JJ, love your reports.
Got wood just from reading it, vicariously wishing I was you.
All three sound excellent to me Lotus, Star and Tina.
I frequently ask myself why I don't live in Detroit.
My last visit was months ago and I am really in need of session but best I seem to be able to do, is read this forum and torture myself with all the fun I am missing.
Marelobo.
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[QUOTE=BangNBounce;2028014]Agreed on many parts of your statement, "community property" "cleanliness of the VIP area / girl" "beginning of shift change" "pre-shift services". That is why I made my comment. And to answer your question, no I don't kiss ether, I'm there for 1 reason and then move on to the next adventure. I'm not there for a relationship with these women. I have no problem with sharing them with my fellow brothers here and I to have unloaded many times w / cim. Just like others have as well. I just prefer not to taste others deposits. LOL.[/QUOTE]BNB.
First, to each is own. So if you don't like or it grosses you out to be sucking and licking her tits absolutely don't do it.
However I don't get the point that you are trying to make, and I think Steve Black has given you good advice.
For me I need to suck the peelers tits as that gets me from semi hard to fully hard. I usually do it for an entire song. It helps make the rest of the session go well for me. I have found if I skip that step I sometimes have trouble finishing.
You seem to make several points one on leftovers, taste, and at least imply a point on health. I will address all three of them.
Leftovers. If you are really worried about this, then you don't belong in the SC. Because there are boy leftovers and girl leftovers everywhere. You like to finish on her tits. When I finish with a peeler, I frequently coat her in cum from face to foot. So you can not really touch any part of her with out contacting my leftovers. Even if you manage to get dances from her with out touching her these boy leftovers and girl leftovers are everywhere. They are on the tables, the stage, the chairs, the drink glasses, the money from the waitress. They are on the food and in the drinks and even in the air you breathe in the club.
For that matter if you are worried about somehow coming into contact with someone else's leftover even staying out of the club is not enough. What about that nice lady that sits next to you at work. Her husband might have cum all over in the morning before work. Or she might have snuck out at 11:00 am to meet her lover and jerked him off over her hand. Then she goes back to the office grabs a cup of coffee not noticing there is still cum on her hand and it get transferred to the next coffee cup the one you take when you to get your coffee? There are people leftovers everywhere.
So the question seems to be are there more leftovers on her tits than anything else you happen to come into contact with. I would suggest not. As long as she does a minimal wipe up job, there is nothing left there.
Tasting others deposits – If you have put a peeler tits in your mouth and it tasted like cum, then I would agree with you, and not do this. I have had a good number of tits in my mouth and never once had the taste of cum. Further I have never read on this board anyone else tasting cum on a girls tits. I am not clear what is the taste objection you are raising.
Health – You did not directly say you were concerned about getting a disease but that is the most common reason we try to avoid the fluids of other humans. There are some risky and non risky things we can do in the SC. I am not making any value judgment and I have my own set of things I don't do, that are perfectly safe and many other do engage in.
You can bareback a peelers ass or pussy. That is the most risky thing and most guys on this board would suggest not doing that. However we all know some of us engage in it.
You can stick your dick in her mouth or perform DATY. This is less risk. More than half the guys on this board would suggest this is an acceptable risk, but a large minority would not.
You can aggressively kiss or swap spit with her. This is even less risk and most guys on this board would say that is ok to do.
All other activities are negligible risk, including sucking her tits. Most of the risk with fluid exchange is infected fluids get into a healthy individual. In the case of cumming on her tits as long as her tits feel dry, there isn't fluid there, and the organisms that cause the infection can not live outside our bodies and fluids. So once you blast out your load and she wipes it up any infectious things die in the next few minutes, plenty of safety time before the next guy is sucking on those tits.
If this whole post is just a bunch of BS, then I will finish where I started and suggest you don't do anything that you don't like or find to be gross.
MM.
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[QUOTE=JulesJordan;2028395]There were 18 dancers (four 8's, mostly 7's with a 30/70 colored to non-colored ratio) and about 50 customers when I arrived. I grabbed a seat at the bar and ordered a beer then shortly after a thin blonde named Britney approached me, she was nice but not my type so we parted ways. After 15 minutes of hanging out I took a seat by the stage and after her stage set Eden (24 years old, white, brunette, thin build and taller height, Acup tits, some body tats, pierced lip) stopped by to chat. Eden was somewhat reserved at first but she warmed up after we got to know each other more, she recently had a bad ending to a long term relationship. It turns out that she just returned to dancing this week after a 2 year break and I was her first customer for the evening. We ended up deciding on no song count BBBJ w / CFS for $.25. Before going to the VIP she excused herself to go to the ladies room to freshen up.
In the VIP she stripped down and we started out by feeling each other up. I rubbed her clit some then we did lots of DFK. Her BBBJ skills were great with licking the top, DT, and sack licking. Also, she did this humming type thing during the BJ and it felt great. She sat on the bench seat and put her legs up for Mish, her giner was gorgeous so I dived in for some DATY. Before going in I suited up then we started with K9. Eden had me start slow due to the tight fit, she felt great and got soaking wet fast. I worked her hard in K9, she was very vocal and energetic. The best part is that she's a squirter and she let loose on the padded seat during K9 and screamed. CG was next, she rode it very well taking it in deep and letting me know when she was getting ready to climax. We switched back to K9 until finish. Afterwards we made out some more and exchanged compliments.
I was alittle disappointed in the talent level at BT's tonight but Eden definitely made up for it by providing an outstanding GFE that I won't forget anytime soon and therefore I recommend getting to know her. She reminded me alittle of Luna when she was in her prime at BT's in mid to late 2012.[/QUOTE]JJ, Thanks for your continuing excellent reports.
Eden is now at the top of my list, she should like everything I like except for the piercings. I have long had a squirting fantasy and never seen a girl do this.
You continue to aspire and amaze. Keep up the good work.
I hope I am lucky enough to follow in your footsteps and not just fantasize about your adventures.
I have got to find a way back to Detroit.
MM.
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[QUOTE=AllOverTheMap;2028859]This is not her and if I had a picture of her I'd surely post it. But she does resemble this Czech Party Hardcore hottie quite a bit. If you're familiar with Anisa, you should see the similarity. Reports of her hijinx on this board are few and far between and I am on the east coast, so I'd like to learn whether she's dancing regularly anywhere before planning another visit.[/QUOTE]AOTM,
If you are only going to be happy with this specific girl, don't plan visit. She may have left the industry, be working in a different state, be pregnant, died, etc.
However I am certain you can find a girl who resembles you fantasy I would encourage you to put you energy into planning a visit and seeing what adventures and naked girls await you.
Who knows you might even find a new ATF.
MM.
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[QUOTE=JulesJordan;2033720]I met up with a friend for a late lunch, there were 12 dancers (two 8's, mostly 7's, two 6's with a 25/75 colored to non-colored ratio) and about 20 customers. Familiar dancers were Colombiana, Ebah, Kyra, Lexi, and Madison. A few dancers stopped by to chat but I was in the mood for a lady with some curves today. Eventually Candy (30 years old, white, blonde, curvy body with natural DD's, some body tats) approached me and we ended up agreeing on no song count BBBJ w / CFS for $.1, I'm glad that I had her check with the DJ before we went to the VIP because she was up in 4 songs. After her stage set Candy went to the ladies room and freshened up then we headed to the VIP.
In the VIP Candy stripped down then we did some light kissing and I sucked on her tits. Her BBBJ skills were average with some DT. I performed FIV then suited up and we started with K9, she was somewhat tight and vocal. As I expected her cushy tushy made a loud CLAP CLAP CLAP noise during K9. We switched to CG and she rode it well. After two songs of CG she climbed off and I removed the cover then she finished me off with a mix of HJ and BBBJ but she didn't want any CIM so most of it went on her hands.
Overall, Candy is a pleasant woman that provides a mediocre BBBJ with decent FS action that's unrushed however I probably wouldn't repeat with her due to my ongoing search for new experiences.[/QUOTE]JJ,
Good report, however this one makes me want to skip BTs.
I know we all need some variety.
MM.
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[QUOTE=HeywoodJablomi;2034034]Nice report E-man. Did you talk to the ebonies at Scores? Got names? Please PM if you prefer.
I'm still waiting to hear what happened at BT's.[/QUOTE]Electronman,
I agree with Heywood, I dying to know what happened at BT's. Please share what you can.
MM.
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[QUOTE=HeywoodJablomi;2034403]Kyra is a fun little spinner. Although I paid 140 for DFK, DATY, CBJ & CFS, I've heard reports of her price coming down to 110. As usual YMMV.[/QUOTE]Thanks Heywood,
LC, take Heywood lesson here. He is a master on this board and frequently posts valuable tips and advise.
I am certain with some practice you get the same results he did and Kyra will be begging you to bang orgasms out of her for well under 200.
MM.