The Rat Trap

[QUOTE=Punkox;7414799]Orlando is a dump. It's always been that way. Always will be that way. It's 10 x more expensive to monger here than anywhere else in the states. And the service is horrible. The girls don't even bathe and they try to rob you after you pay them premium fees. There are 3-5 legitimate providers in the entire city. Daily web visit counts to the local ad websites exceed 300 k. And there are just a few providers servicing all of those guys. Then you go do online dating and all these girls just want money to not put out. Then you try onlyfans and these girls put up crap content. This entire situation is a lockdown of a shit mentality going around in the area. You guys who are paying these crazy numbers for horrible service are the main reason for this problem. Stupidity at its absolute finest.[/QUOTE]Because of these guys the bottom feeders don't know there place.

You cannot charge what these girls charge and you need to take what you can get!

Strung out on dope, fat, Ain't got no teeth, fat, an smell like hot trash.

You scallywags don't know your place really don't.

[QUOTE=NjCockzMen;7414557]What happened to the women who actually looked worth paying for?

Are they avoiding Orlando? Because since the beginning of the year, I've noticed a trend: most of the women being reviewed are either overweight, clearly addicted to drugs, or look like they should be doing it for free.

The ones you guys are reviewingdo you realize that when you give them cash, a drug dealer and his friends could easily take advantage of them all at once?

This is why I don't understand GPS. Trust me, if they're junkies, two or three guys will take turns using her until they get tired beating her pussy.

LOLand please don't say you didn't know!

They're pretending they're worth it. LOL. I don't know who they think they are! But simps and white knights have done a great job of paying other guys' admission fees..[/QUOTE]Well the providers that where in the area when I started doing this have almost all disappeared for one reason or another. Some of us like the big girls though LOL. Anyway its the just the game changing I guess. I tend to stick to the sugar babys now for that reason.

[QUOTE=NjCockzMen;7414906]Because of these guys the bottom feeders don't know there place.

You cannot charge what these girls charge and you need to take what you can get!

Strung out on dope, fat, Ain't got no teeth, fat, an smell like hot trash.[/QUOTE]Facts. Over paying for fatties. Then posting a review.

[QUOTE=BuckNastee;7415767]Facts. Over paying for fatties. Then posting a review.[/QUOTE]They have been reviewing dope fiends since the summer of last year.

An this is what I mean by they don't know there place I texted her from different number.

She doesn't even look good and she's talking to me like she's some queen or princess.

Do they even know that when you see coochie you have no worth! See this is why support pimping because a pimp will make sure a funky ass hoe will always know her place! Simps social media and the internet has made hoes confused. Its a service just like going to the obgyn.

[QUOTE=LateAfter8;7416262]Just an FYI, I had the opposite experience a few months ago. Both girls were deep in the game of candy land and appeared days away from being walkers. Maybe things turned around but proceed with caution.[/QUOTE]They are still indulging, their incall location lets you know that. I've learned there is a very wide spectrum on here with us in regards to what we consider is a good and bad experience, who is good or bad provider, and definitely who looks good or bad in regards to attractiveness. What is considered trash to some of us is a treasure to others. I don't mean that in a bad way if that seems offensive to anyone. Grady Judd summed it up best, sometimes it's any port in a storm. I myself have docked at a few shoddy ports due to the elements.

[QUOTE=MikeMic;7423925]I was going to ignore all the petty comment until this BS!! Talking about another agenda! Post the pics the way she looks now! BTW, I am black! I'm not afraid of NO MAN! I am an 82nd Air Borne Ranger and ain't not pussy going to punk me! Nowhere in my post did I say I was concerned about a black guy out! The fuck was there when I pulled up and he was there when I left! Keep your comments about your piece!![/QUOTE]LMFAO! So now you are a black and a 82nd Air Borne Ranger! What are you going to tell me you are tomorrow? A rocket scientist? Maybe next week a brain surgeon? Please tell me, I could use a good laugh!

RP.

Do many members read those posts that are almost a page long and seem to go on forever without really getting to the nitty gritty details about the provider or event?

Personally, I find more useful those that are brief, direct and to the point. I guess to each their own.

[QUOTE=LuvGourmet;7433288]Do many members read those posts that are almost a page long and seem to go on forever without really getting to the nitty gritty details about the provider or event?

Personally, I find more useful those that are brief, direct and to the point. I guess to each their own.[/QUOTE]That and reviews that go into some dream sequence. I guess when I first started on the board I did that. Like cops looking to bust people aren't on this board and some dream sequence keeps everything under wraps.

[QUOTE=JohnyBig;7433474]That and reviews that go into some dream sequence. I guess when I first started on the board I did that. Like cops looking to bust people aren't on this board and some dream sequence keeps everything under wraps.[/QUOTE]I have thought about that also but honestly it seems like it would be a waste of time for cops to spend their time here. There's no names to associate with mongers and I can say all kinds of stuff here and none of it could be true. If they do lurk here its just to see where the ladies are maybe?

[QUOTE=OdinsBeard78;7434087]I have thought about that also but honestly it seems like it would be a waste of time for cops to spend their time here. There's no names to associate with mongers and I can say all kinds of stuff here and none of it could be true. If they do lurk here its just to see where the ladies are maybe?[/QUOTE]I alway ask for a topless photo if I am sus.

Bottom line I am so careful I have probably passed on some goid ones.

My main thing now is finding authentic nuru on an airmatt.

[QUOTE=TRowePrice;7257570]Oh ratty trap. Been awhile. This is prob the type of gals most of us are seeing right now:[/QUOTE]The other day, I was driving on S. OBT and had a brand new Nissan Maxima pull out of the Nissan dealership right alongside me. I looked over and it was legit a hot body Latina with big tits, straight long black hair, and sunglasses just like in your picture! Looks like she was doing a text drive because the car still had its monroney sticker on the window and a sales guy in the passenger seat.

[QUOTE=OdinsBeard78;7434087]I have thought about that also but honestly it seems like it would be a waste of time for cops to spend their time here. There's no names to associate with mongers and I can say all kinds of stuff here and none of it could be true. If they do lurk here its just to see where the ladies are maybe?[/QUOTE]If you post it here, they will use it against you and present it in court as the God's truth. It doesn't matter how outrageous it is, or if it's even possible, if you say here you did it then they can AND WILL use it against you as if you actually did.

Unless you're using some pretty sophisticated ways to hide your identity (think using TOR browser over a VPN), if they want you then it's a pretty simple process for them to track your IP back to your address. Your Internet provider or phone company will hand over all of your identifying information with a warrant, and Uncle LEO has a very efficient process for getting those.

The bottom line is that you cannot be TOO careful in this hobby, all the way around.

[QUOTE=Aeroxly;7436693]If you post it here, they will use it against you and present it in court as the God's truth. It doesn't matter how outrageous it is, or if it's even possible, if you say here you did it then they can AND WILL use it against you as if you actually did.

Unless you're using some pretty sophisticated ways to hide your identity (think using TOR browser over a VPN), if they want you then it's a pretty simple process for them to track your IP back to your address. Your Internet provider or phone company will hand over all of your identifying information with a warrant, and Uncle LEO has a very efficient process for getting those.

The bottom line is that you cannot be TOO careful in this hobby, all the way around.[/QUOTE]Nothing on this website can be used as evidence as it is all hearsay, and even if you wanted to try to use a post under one of the hearsay exceptions, you would have an awful hard time proving any individual actually posted. Even if LEO could somehow link a post to the IP to your specific computer, how does that prove that a particular individual actually posted the message on the board and it was not someone else who had access? Unless your going to give out your legal name and address within your post, your safe to post about any "dreams"/ encounters you may have.

[QUOTE=LuvGourmet;7433288]Do many members read those posts that are almost a page long and seem to go on forever without really getting to the nitty gritty details about the provider or event?

Personally, I find more useful those that are brief, direct and to the point. I guess to each their own.[/QUOTE]It's kinda amusing how long some of the posts are. Play by play of the act. They really remember every little detail? I'm. Pretty sure it took them longer to write the story then the actual deed LOL.

Lhern has left us. This is what I have from him: "No longer gatekeeping for Seleste and I actually no longer want anything to do with this community. I was going to write a whole spiel about why, but I just don't care anymore".

Gatekeeping is definitely not easy. It's very time consuming to look at posts of members who want digits. But you have to. There are a lot of sick fucks out there, and the only thing I got are your posts. So basically I have to read in between the lines to determine what kind of person you are. If I can't determine that, or if there is a concern, no digits will be given. Then of course, you got the attackers. Who are pissed because they didn't get any digits. For me, I call them the RP haters, and trust me I got plenty of them. I try to make this as safe as possible for both. So please post your experiences so I can better determine your eligibility. Let's make this community safe for all.

RP.

[QUOTE=RP469;7491374]Lhern has left us. This is what I have from him: "No longer gatekeeping for Seleste and I actually no longer want anything to do with this community. I was going to write a whole spiel about why, but I just don't care anymore".

Gatekeeping is definitely not easy. It's very time consuming to look at posts of members who want digits. But you have to. There are a lot of sick fucks out there, and the only thing I got are your posts. So basically I have to read in between the lines to determine what kind of person you are. If I can't determine that, or if there is a concern, no digits will be given. Then of course, you got the attackers. Who are pissed because they didn't get any digits. For me, I call them the RP haters, and trust me I got plenty of them. I try to make this as safe as possible for both. So please post your experiences so I can better determine your eligibility. Let's make this community safe for all.

RP.[/QUOTE]Gatekeeping is not easy. The provider that wants you to help her is obviously comfortable with you and trusts you. She might be too busy with real life to do it all herself. At least 1/3 of the guys on USA are a holes which is why Gatekeeping is necessary. If I have any concerns, then that person doesn't get digits. It's that simple. Gatekeepers are not on here to make friends with mongers, they are here to make sure the provider they are screening for remains safe.

Totally agree. I did with a couple back in the day and it wore me out.

If you have seleste info send it my way.

Thanks for doing the work. I know it is not easy.

[QUOTE=RP469;7491374]Lhern has left us. This is what I have from him: "No longer gatekeeping for Seleste and I actually no longer want anything to do with this community. I was going to write a whole spiel about why, but I just don't care anymore".

Gatekeeping is definitely not easy. It's very time consuming to look at posts of members who want digits. But you have to. There are a lot of sick fucks out there, and the only thing I got are your posts. So basically I have to read in between the lines to determine what kind of person you are. If I can't determine that, or if there is a concern, no digits will be given. Then of course, you got the attackers. Who are pissed because they didn't get any digits. For me, I call them the RP haters, and trust me I got plenty of them. I try to make this as safe as possible for both. So please post your experiences so I can better determine your eligibility. Let's make this community safe for all.

RP.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bjceb;7491750]Totally agree. I did with a couple back in the day and it wore me out.

If you have seleste info send it my way.

Thanks for doing the work. I know it is not easy.[/QUOTE]EveryDay J just posted in the utr thread that he will be the new gatekeeper. I wish him the best!

RP.

[QUOTE=DreamForever69;7491711]Gatekeeping is not easy. The provider that wants you to help her is obviously comfortable with you and trusts you. She might be too busy with real life to do it all herself. At least 1/3 of the guys on USA are a holes which is why Gatekeeping is necessary. If I have any concerns, then that person doesn't get digits. It's that simple. Gatekeepers are not on here to make friends with mongers, they are here to make sure the provider they are screening for remains safe.[/QUOTE]So what is the criteria? Because no one on here knows anyone else personally so your judgement is really random. You don't know, that is why these girls have their own screening process. And how do you make sure the provider remains safe? Do you go to the date and watch, be a bodyguard? That sounds like a pimp to me. Regardless, picking and choosing who gets a number based on your own criteria is not the way to do it. I've spoke with many of these girls about this issue when I've seen them and they all say the same thing, they just want business and want their number given as much as possible. They want to do their own screening process. Check out the post in the UTR #16764. That sums it up perfectly.

So unless you can tell me that you personally can vouch for every monger on here, then don't use some silly criteria to make them jump thru hoops to get a number. This site is all about sharing experiences, lets do that. And again, this is what the girls on here want. Not my call, this is them saying this. Ask them yourself.

[QUOTE=Bjceb;7491750]Totally agree. I did with a couple back in the day and it wore me out.

If you have seleste info send it my way.

Thanks for doing the work. I know it is not easy.[/QUOTE]That's why if you want to help a girl show them how to get their own escort profile point people to them directly then with reviews. Then its up to the girl to figure it out. They can post thank yous to good reviews and then people just message them directly. Its their issue then. JB.

[QUOTE=S6776;7492021]So what is the criteria? Because no one on here knows anyone else personally so your judgement is really random. You don't know, that is why these girls have their own screening process. And how do you make sure the provider remains safe? Do you go to the date and watch, be a bodyguard? That sounds like a pimp to me. Regardless, picking and choosing who gets a number based on your own criteria is not the way to do it. I've spoke with many of these girls about this issue when I've seen them and they all say the same thing, they just want business and want their number given as much as possible. They want to do their own screening process. Check out the post in the UTR #16764. That sums it up perfectly.

So unless you can tell me that you personally can vouch for every monger on here, then don't use some silly criteria to make them jump thru hoops to get a number. This site is all about sharing experiences, lets do that. And again, this is what the girls on here want. Not my call, this is them saying this. Ask them yourself.[/QUOTE]Why? Look at your posts.

I've been reading some of the comments about gatekeeping. When I tell you it's hard work to do and very nerve-wracking, I really mean it. When you meet up with a new girl and decide to take on the responsibility, you could be looking at 50-75 messages in your inbox. Overwhelming, to say the least.

I sure do wish we had the USA classifieds back into play. That way, the girl could do her own screening. A2, any chance of that happening again? You could charge the girls to run their ads.

[QUOTE=JohnyBig;7492049]That's why if you want to help a girl show them how to get their own escort profile point people to them directly then with reviews. Then its up to the girl to figure it out. They can post thank yous to good reviews and then people just message them directly. Its their issue then. JB.[/QUOTE]I have suggested to a few girls that they should get an advertiser profile here, and do thier own screening.

[QUOTE=S6776;7492021]So what is the criteria? Because no one on here knows anyone else personally so your judgement is really random. You don't know, that is why these girls have their own screening process. And how do you make sure the provider remains safe? Do you go to the date and watch, be a bodyguard? That sounds like a pimp to me. Regardless, picking and choosing who gets a number based on your own criteria is not the way to do it. I've spoke with many of these girls about this issue when I've seen them and they all say the same thing, they just want business and want their number given as much as possible. They want to do their own screening process. Check out the post in the UTR #16764. That sums it up perfectly.

So unless you can tell me that you personally can vouch for every monger on here, then don't use some silly criteria to make them jump thru hoops to get a number. This site is all about sharing experiences, lets do that. And again, this is what the girls on here want. Not my call, this is them saying this. Ask them yourself.[/QUOTE]I have been a gatekeeper a few times and the girls always thank me for watching out and not sending scum bags. There are some that just want numbers, but real UTR's what to feel somewhat safe. No, I don't know who is on the other side of a screen name, but I can tell a lot about what type of person you are by the way you write your posts.

[QUOTE=DreamForever69;7492126]Why? Look at your posts.[/QUOTE]I don't need to, I have all their numbers.

Gatekeeping is a hassle enough on its own. It's infinitely more of a pain in the ass when every other click results in a database error.

Sorry I just had to vent.

[QUOTE=EveryDayJ;7508719]Gatekeeping is a hassle enough on its own. It's infinitely more of a pain in the ass when every other click results in a database error.

Sorry I just had to vent.[/QUOTE]These girls can get advertiser profiles and do their own gatekeeping. Have them ask people to do reviews they can comment back. Teach them how to do their own screening turn them loose. That's how you help them. Fuck gatekeeping for them. I've shown several how to do this. If they want the cocks to fuck they can find them. We don't need to do it for them.

[QUOTE=JohnyBig;7509083]These girls can get advertiser profiles and do their own gatekeeping. Have them ask people to do reviews they can comment back. Teach them how to do their own screening turn them loose. That's how you help them. Fuck gatekeeping for them. I've shown several how to do this. If they want the cocks to fuck they can find them. We don't need to do it for them.[/QUOTE]That EVERY girl is different right?. Some have an actual life besides escorting and could use the help.

[QUOTE=DreamForever69;7492126]Why? Look at your posts.[/QUOTE]Take for instance the 50 and Semoran section there are numerous girls in that area on certain days.

Of the week especially Thursday that will eat 100 cocks for a 20 dollar bag.

They refuse to gatekeep or leave a review about girls who will go as low as 5 dollars to give to the dealer plus a blow job for collateral.

Sharing info depends on the monger because some these guy actually have feelings for a first class pos!

In a perfect world everyone would share.

[QUOTE=VictorXtra1;7550547]Located in the Publix Shopping Plaza on Hiawassee Road. Received an attendant that was a short AMP women in her mid-50's. Appears to be owner or manager of the establishment. Said something to the effect that she was trying to weed out any staff member that used to or was willing to go beyond L1 saying "we don't want that here". Also said other customers were informing her of Spa attendants who offered beyond L1 happy endings! Table shower was just basically a thorough cleaning including the boys but she stayed fully clothed and besides the table. I think she was the only AMP attendant there because she kept leaving to answer the door and to answer the phone cutting into my time. Left a $60 tip then asked for $40 more! I told her that's too much for only L1 but ended up giving her an additional $20 tip for a total of $80 just to keep her from lecturing me etc. Actual massage was solid so I would recommend for L1 seekers in the area.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, but it gave me enough info to NOT see her. You said you would recommend her, but would you really, now that you have had a chance for some post nut clarity? Mid 50's, table shower "just basically a thorough cleaning", kept leaving to answer the door and to answer the phone, as a result probably shorted you on your time, and after you left a pretty dam generous tip sweated you for $40 more? And you gave her $20 more so she wouldn't lecture you, which means, no offense, but now she will do that sh*t to all her customers because it worked for her. Sorry, but for me, all that adds up to a big F*ck That! But again, you did give me some insight on where NOT to go, and that's what makes these reports so useful.

Oh yeah, and who are these ass licking, suck up, momma's boy, spineless, bich ass weasels that are ratting out our favorite kind of spa attendants offering more than L1's? Great job getting them fired jackasses. What the hell are you thinking? Just turn in your man cards and slink back to your mom's basement. Mamasan may not "want that here", but We do!

[QUOTE=Nightowl21;7556741]Thanks for the report, but it gave me enough info to NOT see her. You said you would recommend her, but would you really, now that you have had a chance for some post nut clarity? Mid 50's, table shower "just basically a thorough cleaning", kept leaving to answer the door and to answer the phone, as a result probably shorted you on your time, and after you left a pretty dam generous tip sweated you for $40 more? And you gave her $20 more so she wouldn't lecture you, which means, no offense, but now she will do that sh*t to all her customers because it worked for her. Sorry, but for me, all that adds up to a big F*ck That! But again, you did give me some insight on where NOT to go, and that's what makes these reports so useful.

Oh yeah, and who are these ass licking, suck up, momma's boy, spineless, bich ass weasels that are ratting out our favorite kind of spa attendants offering more than L1's? Great job getting them fired jackasses. What the hell are you thinking? Just turn in your man cards and slink back to your mom's basement. Mamasan may not "want that here", but We do![/QUOTE]I agree with every word your response. Except one. You spelled "F*ck" wrong.

[QUOTE=ButchKid;7557938]I agree with every word your response. Except one. You spelled "F*ck" wrong.[/QUOTE]Yeah, spelled sh*t and bich wrong too, LOL. I'm surprised "ass" got through. A2 can be a stickler sometimes!

[QUOTE=Nightowl21;7556741]
Oh yeah, and who are these ass licking, suck up, momma's boy, spineless, bich ass weasels that are ratting out our favorite kind of spa attendants offering more than L1's? Great job getting them fired jackasses. What the hell are you thinking? Just turn in your man cards and slink back to your mom's basement. Mamasan may not "want that here", but We do![/QUOTE]I'm running into this all over the place. Not just AMP's but the cuddle sites and some of the sugar babies I've seen. It a bunch of ***** ass men that don't understand the YMMV portion and don't have any game. They pull up sites and show the girls what others have reported on and demand the same. I had a great romantic moment with one of the cuddle girls ruined because she stopped things saying she got reported on this site specifically and doesn't want that reputation. Aghhhhh.

[QUOTE=MolonLabe87;7559931]I'm running into this all over the place. Not just AMP's but the cuddle sites and some of the sugar babies I've seen. It a bunch of ***** ass men that don't understand the YMMV portion and don't have any game. They pull up sites and show the girls what others have reported on and demand the same. I had a great romantic moment with one of the cuddle girls ruined because she stopped things saying she got reported on this site specifically and doesn't want that reputation. Aghhhhh.[/QUOTE]I actually had a girl on a cuddle site ASK me if I was on "that USA" site. I know I keep my profile on the cuddle sites vague, but that definitely took me by surprise. Guys, if you have no game, showing them this site isn't going to improve your chances of getting more from a massage or cuddle! Get your ass in shape, learn how to dress well so that when you show up, you make a good impression, and most importantly, improve your social skills! The fun of the cuddle sites and massage girls is the extra challenge over just paying for an escort.

[QUOTE=Prophotog;7559973]I actually had a girl on a cuddle site ASK me if I was on "that USA" site. I know I keep my profile on the cuddle sites vague, but that definitely took me by surprise. Guys, if you have no game, showing them this site isn't going to improve your chances of getting more from a massage or cuddle! Get your ass in shape, learn how to dress well so that when you show up, you make a good impression, and most importantly, improve your social skills! The fun of the cuddle sites and massage girls is the extra challenge over just paying for an escort.[/QUOTE]Sugar babies and cuddlers warn each other about this site in reddit threads.

I'd love to know which one of you went and squealed to her that she's being talked about. Hope you're getting some free sessions or something out of it. Kinda sucks that we can't talk freely here. And yes I know she has a handle on here but she even said to me that she hadn't been on in months so someone opened their yapper. Not the first time its happened to me either. Anyway again its my fault for "helping" her.

Recommend highly you avoid providing info to original sin / jjfrsh!

[QUOTE=Nightowl21;7556741]Thanks for the report, but it gave me enough info to NOT see her. You said you would recommend her, but would you really, now that you have had a chance for some post nut clarity? Mid 50's, table shower "just basically a thorough cleaning", kept leaving to answer the door and to answer the phone, as a result probably shorted you on your time, and after you left a pretty dam generous tip sweated you for $40 more? And you gave her $20 more so she wouldn't lecture you, which means, no offense, but now she will do that sh*t to all her customers because it worked for her. Sorry, but for me, all that adds up to a big F*ck That! But again, you did give me some insight on where NOT to go, and that's what makes these reports so useful.

Oh yeah, and who are these ass licking, suck up, momma's boy, spineless, bich ass weasels that are ratting out our favorite kind of spa attendants offering more than L1's? Great job getting them fired jackasses. What the hell are you thinking? Just turn in your man cards and slink back to your mom's basement. Mamasan may not "want that here", but We do![/QUOTE]The reason I went is because during my last trip there like 6 months prior to this reviewed trip I got an excellent BBBJDTWS by a therapist there. I was hoping for more of the same. But when this attendant offered L1.I countered with requesting L2!.at that point she said something to the effect of "We don't do that! But others tell me, such and such girl did that! (While not using there names but describing what the girls looked like) So I fire them! Because we don't do that here" then she started asking me who did L2 for me here the last time I came! I just told her "I forgot! And I don't know who it was" I guess what I recommend regarding this AMP is the massage itself was solid and good but you are correct I was dissatisfied in the post massage activity options. And hated the mini interrogation asking me to snitch on any staff member who did L2 etc. because apparently other customers did!

[QUOTE=IWish;7572334]Recommend highly you avoid providing info to original sin / jjfrsh![/QUOTE]I don't know what this is about and this guy refuses to tell me. So if someone else knows, feel free to PM me. Thanks!

[QUOTE=OdinsBeard78;7567726]I'd love to know which one of you went and squealed to her that she's being talked about. Hope you're getting some free sessions or something out of it. Kinda sucks that we can't talk freely here. And yes I know she has a handle on here but she even said to me that she hadn't been on in months so someone opened their yapper. Not the first time its happened to me either. Anyway again its my fault for "helping" her.[/QUOTE]There are a bunch of guys like that on here. So you have to be careful posting about someone you want to see again. Especially if not a glowing review. This provider I would just move on. Don't lose any sleep over it. If she's not active here then what does it matter. I haven't see her in a long time. Not getting into why. She must still have some fan boys still out there.

[QUOTE=OriginalSin;7572807]I don't know what this is about and this guy refuses to tell me. So if someone else knows, feel free to PM me. Thanks![/QUOTE]I spoke with Debbie and she feels bad for this distress, would luv to see you no charge. Just text her.