Not all who provide are trafficked
[QUOTE=BJicecream;7624979]I think that data suggest that if trafficking is happening it is in these AMP, where often the girls don't speak English that well. I don't frequent these places, so probably other would be better judges. I will say these high end places, I doubt these girls are being trafficked. Just speaking to them in the session and afterwards (for weeks / months), it seems like the 10-20 k a week that they are making is their motivation. Even the one girl who told me she had debt to pay off, I asked her so what are you going to do afterwards, " I want to become an AV star". Which I thought was such a weird response, but it turns out av idols is a thing in Japan. The truth is if the government actually wanted to protect women they would legalize it and regulate it, but obviously a lot of people benefit from this industry.[/QUOTE]Agree. Yes there are some that are trafficking victims, but many have told me they are here for the money and because they enjoy the sex with American men. Many women come from places where men treat them like shit. One provider told me she came here to get away from her abusive husband after getting a divorce.
It's you not the Therapist
[QUOTE=WomenLover2;7646086]That's relatively inexpensive. Therapists at Pin Thai Aiea Towne demands over 200.
Mona and Sofia at Thai Touch in Kalihi demands 200.[/QUOTE]I am going to say this. Stop complaining about Mona and Thai Touch. This is not to you because I am replying to your post but to everyone. You are right $200 ain’t shit. I have friends with sugar babies giving them $5k a month and that $5k goes a long way. Most are mad because she will not get naked and fuck you. Listen guys, they fuck who they want. I have not seen her in over two years but my experience was great. YMMV. Isn't that what we say. I have two Thai girlfriends right now. One legit therapist and one HE only. They tell me the shit they put up with everyday. You guys come in fat, breath smells, demanding so much with little money. I take $***** with me when I go and let's see what happens. Two days ago I went to a Thai girl and when I walked in it was go time. I had seen her four years ago but it's been awhile. HJ only before and this time full on 2 hours of sex. we showered twice in the two hours. She told me she was horny when I started texting her and had me saved as handsome muscle guy. She said then she was going to fuck me even if I was going for a massage. That's all I wanted but got more than I expected. I had to cancel two meetings. Guys this game is about money. These girls don't get out much and when a attractive guys comes to their door that have the option. I take care of myself and always get more than most. I gave her the $***** anyway and she is going on a trip with me next month. Look if you are not a looker and have women staring at you when out in public or at work throwing themselves at you, what makes you think the massage therapist are going to do the same? I have fucked over 30 Thai massage therapist here. Shit some even passed me around. That being said if you are not a looker bring more money and that usually talks. These Thai girls do have some morals and they will not fuck for no amount of money, but I know a few that will. The HE ones that you guys tell everyone they will not fuck. They have to get off too and they use the clients that they think are attractive. As always YMMV!
It's You and Not The Therapist
[QUOTE=MacTruth;7648979]I am going to say this. Stop complaining about Mona and Thai Touch. This is not to you because I am replying to your post but to everyone. You are right $200 aint shit. I have friends with sugar babies giving them $5k a month and that $5k goes a long way. Most are mad because she will not get naked and fuck you. Listen guys, they fuck who they want. I have not seen her in over two years but my experience was great. YMMV. Isn't that what we say. I have two Thai girlfriends right now. One legit therapist and one HE only. They tell me the shit they put up with everyday. You guys come in fat, breath smells, demanding so much with little money. I take $***** with me when I go and let's see what happens. Two days ago I went to a Thai girl and when I walked in it was go time. I had seen her four years ago but it's been awhile. HJ only before and this time full on 2 hours of sex. we showered twice in the two hours. She told me she was horny when I started texting her and had me saved as handsome muscle guy. She said then she was going to fuck me even if I was going for a massage. That's all I wanted but got more than I expected. I had to cancel two meetings. Guys this game is about money. These girls don't get out much and when a attractive guys comes to their door that have the option. I take care of myself and always get more than most. I gave her the $***** anyway and she is going on a trip with me next month. Look if you are not a looker and have women staring at you when out in public or at work throwing themselves at you, what makes you think the massage therapist are going to do the same? I have fucked over 30 Thai massage therapist here. Shit some even passed me around. That being said if you are not a looker bring more money and that usually talks. These Thai girls do have some morals and they will not fuck for no amount of money, but I know a few that will. The HE ones that you guys tell everyone they will not fuck. They have to get off too and they use the clients that they think are attractive. As always YMMV![/QUOTE]Thank you for pointing out the importance of treating massage therapists well and putting yourself in their shoes and understanding what they go through with customers.
Treat the therapists nicely and they will treat you nicely.
I think it was more about her gold digger attitude
[QUOTE=MacTruth;7648979]I am going to say this. Stop complaining about Mona and Thai Touch. This is not to you because I am replying to your post but to everyone. You are right $200 aint shit. I have friends with sugar babies giving them $5k a month and that $5k goes a long way. Most are mad because she will not get naked and fuck you. Listen guys, they fuck who they want. I have not seen her in over two years but my experience was great. YMMV. Isn't that what we say. I have two Thai girlfriends right now. One legit therapist and one HE only. They tell me the shit they put up with everyday. You guys come in fat, breath smells, demanding so much with little money. I take $***** with me when I go and let's see what happens. Two days ago I went to a Thai girl and when I walked in it was go time. I had seen her four years ago but it's been awhile. HJ only before and this time full on 2 hours of sex. we showered twice in the two hours. She told me she was horny when I started texting her and had me saved as handsome muscle guy. She said then she was going to fuck me even if I was going for a massage. That's all I wanted but got more than I expected. I had to cancel two meetings. Guys this game is about money. These girls don't get out much and when a attractive guys comes to their door that have the option. I take care of myself and always get more than most. I gave her the $***** anyway and she is going on a trip with me next month. Look if you are not a looker and have women staring at you when out in public or at work throwing themselves at you, what makes you think the massage therapist are going to do the same? I have fucked over 30 Thai massage therapist here. Shit some even passed me around. That being said if you are not a looker bring more money and that usually talks. These Thai girls do have some morals and they will not fuck for no amount of money, but I know a few that will. The HE ones that you guys tell everyone they will not fuck. They have to get off too and they use the clients that they think are attractive. As always YMMV![/QUOTE]The idea that Thai women are FS selective has been well established in other posts. No new news here. I forgot which guys put it best, it might have been you in prior post, but he said you are basically auditioning for being a boyfriend / partner, which I definitely feel is true for the younger hot Thai girls, probably not true for MILF Mona (being generous). I agree thai providers have a lot of morals and high standards, and FS is some complicated equation they do. Maybe for fit guys like you being horny is part of it, that was never my experience. I go with the charming sugar grandpa approach. It often requires multiple visits and being sweet to them.
Back to Mona, poor attitude, fake pictures, very good service. I have literally have given my legit Thai massage girl $200 for a regular massage because she is cute and is always asking to go on dates with me. So it's not about money.
For me real pictures and attitude are #1.
Service is somewhere in the middle.
If all you care about is service then Mona is your girl, as I said before she has great service.