Massage Parlor Reports

The I'd must be government issued per statute. Oh by the way, you see the cameras in front of every single massage place? You ever heard of facial recognition? Really you honestly think you're a mystery? And the hotels? Same thing. And you don't think they turn over these videos, or they can't get warrants from them? Really? You don't think they can put an unmarked car near one of these places? Webcams on adjoining buildings.

Guys, look the police aren't stupid. They know about every massage parlor, every aromatherapy shop, they know the names and locations of every single girl who works on escort alligator and in the hotels. I spoke recently with a long time sheriff. He said "there's no victim, these are two consenting parties. " and this simply isn't a priority to them. If the state or local government wants to shut any of these places down, they'll simply use confidential informants. They send someone in trouble with the law, offer them immunity, give them cash, and send them in. These guys can get naked, touch the girls whatever. Oh at this whole donation bs, yeah right!

My advice to all of you: Don't give the police a reason to make you a priority or a problem. Show up sober, no drugs don't get rough with the girls or rip them off. When the politicians and the the's office decide to make an example, they're going to do it. Your I'd and paperwork in the place isn't going to mean a thing. Oh and any idea that the cops can't go into the massage places without a warrant, guess what, they can anytime. It's a closely regulated industry. I didn't speak with my attorney concerning aromatherapy. By the way I don't care if the cops promise you the moon, assert directly your right to remain silent and call out the 5th amendment when you do it and immediately demand you speak to an attorney before answering any questions. Period.

[QUOTE=CuriousTourist;7005612]This happened in a different city in Florida, but I'm sharing this on multiple forums in case it is of interest or assistance.

I went to one of my favorite parlors, and for the first time I was given the sign in sheet where I had to provide name, address, etc etc etc. The mamasan said that she thought they were ALSO going to need to be checking IDs soon (I'm guessing especially as the elections come near, and probably in the months after, at least). She said they may even need to make a copy of it, to prove they checked and that the info they recorded matches the IDs.

This got me thinking, so I reached out to a buddy of mine up in New England. He has a business that prints I'd cards for businesses. I asked him if he ever does fake IDs. Now, I'm clearly no where near the drinking age, so he asked me why the hell I'd want a fake I'd? I told him that they had just put this stupid law in place down here that if you go to get a massage, they're supposed to get a copy of your I'd. With all the identity theft going on, I don't like the idea of giving any random people a copy of my info. I also said it sounds like they're going to be copying it soon, and that just makes me nervous to have a copy of my actual I'd being kept at one of these places..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RobinStPete;7006493]The ID must be government issued per statute.[/QUOTE]That is an INCORRECT statement.

Refer to this post for perspective:

[QUOTE=DrWilly;6990793]Per actual text of Florida HB197, and as [B]Thunter[/B] has alluded to previously, employees of a Massage Establishment are not [B]required[/B] to scan, or even view, your government issued ID. The law simply states they are required to "verify", but does not demand examination of government issued ID. One could ask how verification is possible WITHOUT viewing an ID, such as your Driver License, but this law does not explicitly demand that action as the sole possible method. The Massage Establishment could reasonably contend that they viewed the customer's business card, or his "Employee Badge/ID", or any other reasonable form of ([U]NON-GOVERNMENT ISSUED[/U]) identification.

How they choose to "verify" has been left ambiguous by the wording of the law, so if LE wants to criticize their verification procedures, LE would still seem to have a difficult time enforcing any sort of [U]government issued ID[/U] check. As the law fails to demand that action on the part of the Massage Establishment.

For those contemplating flashing a "fake government issued ID" to an AMP, be aware that use of a "fake ID", McLovin' or otherwise, has other consequences. Florida Law stipulates that it's [RED]illegal to possess and/or display a fake, forged, stolen, counterfeit or borrowed driver's license or state-issued identification card[/RED]. The statute ([URL=https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/322.212][b][u]Florida Statute 322.212[/u][/b][/URL]) makes the mere possession of a fake ID a crime, and the ID does not need to be used for any particular purpose. If you are caught with a fake ID, the penalty can be filed (at the discretion of the States Attorney) as a third-degree felony carrying a jail sentence of up to 5 years with a fine up to $5000 (that's a lot of hobby-dollars). This CLEARLY does not apply to a NON-government issued form of identifcation.

So, if one wanted to employ use of a "fake ID", make sure it's a bogus Employment Badge or Identification, or some other NON-GOVERNMENT issued ID ... even a business card! ... with the necessary information to satisfy any AMP asking for ID. If a customer were to DO that, once you leave the AMP, there is nothing tying you back to that bogus logbook entry, as long as you don't show LE your "fake" business card, Employee Badge/ID, or any other non-government issued ID you may have used (this to address [B]QuartzB[/B]s concern below).

For the full text of House Bill 197, [URL=https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2024/197/BillText/Filed/PDF][b][red]CLICK HERE[/red][/b][/URL] and draw your attention to Paragraph F, beginning at PDF document line number 250 on page 11, for specific reference to the matters discussed above. For anyone paranoid about links, or otherwise click-challenged, I'll paste a snippet here again that [B]Thunter[/B] pasted a few days ago:

[quote](f) [red]A massage establishment must maintain a complete set
of legible records[/red] in English [b]or[/b] Spanish, which must include the
date, time, and type of service or treatment provided; the full
legal name of the employee who provided the service or
treatment; and the [red]full legal name, home address, and telephone
number of the client or patient[/red]. Medical records may satisfy
this requirement if the records include the specified
information. A copy of the client's or patient's [red][b]photo
identification[/b][/red] may be used to provide the full legal name and
home address of the client or patient. Records required under
this paragraph must be maintained for at least 1 year after a
service or treatment is provided. All information required under
this paragraph must be collected and recorded before any service
or treatment is provided to a client or patient. The
establishment must confirm the identification of the client or
patient before any service or treatment is provided to the
client or patient.[/quote]

[b]NOTICE WHERE IT STIPULATES "[u]PHOTO IDENTIFICATION[/u]" IT DOES [RED][u]NOT[/u][/red] DEMAND A "[u]GOVERNMENT ISSUED[/u]" FORM OF IDENTIFICATION!!![/b] While casual readers may want to infer that requirement, such "inferences" are not part of a lawyer's lexicon, nor an actual part of this law.

For anyone getting 'pulled over' by LE after an AMP visit, ostensibly for some minor traffic violation, and then being interrogated by the deputy, the YouTube video here would seem to be a safe, albeit "ballsy" way to handle that.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR-AjJeunXk[/URL]

I'm sure that would piss off the deputy for not being able to use you for their harrassment objectives of the AMP, so I'm also guessing they'd make that 'traffic stop' as long as painful as possible, but as long as you've done nothing else illegal, LE should have nothing on you. JUST DON'T ANSWER [B][u]ANY[/u][/B] QUESTIONS! ... it's your right NOT to do so.[/QUOTE]

Great report, was it MSOG for your session?

[QUOTE=RavenousRick;7004965]Took the time and made the drive. Did all the things, separated my money into easy to hand over stacks, and walked up to the spa. Monger leaving as I cross the parking lot so I walked slow as to not bump into one of you fine gentlemen.

Enter the spa and drew Tiffany, simply stunning. Easily in her middle 20's but most likely in her middle 30's. Light makeup, not caked on, black yoga pants and a tight white sports top. She could have been headed to the gym and it was hot.

Went to the room, requested hour, handed over the. 8 plus the $. 6 tip and told her that should cover everything I wanted. She did a count, told me thank you, and left to stow the money. When she returned she stripped and told me the shower was occupied. She suggested doing the shower at the end. Jr agreed as he was already rising to the occasion.

I did ask for the second girl, and paid the extra $ for the 4 hands. This was both good and bad. The good was It was Mia with the tattoo and her BBBJ skills are amazing, the bad is that having the 2nd girl took away from the attention I got to give to Tiffany and Mia was older and not my type. She was attractive and aggressive in her desire to please, and this was welcomed in her BBBJ skills, but she was shooting for the finish line the entire time whereas Tiffany really seemed to be enjoying herself. Tiffany is simply the total package. Slightly tall, slim, flawless skin, beautiful C / D boobs, cute little butt, and she was passionate throughout the exp. None of that fake "oh yes baby" stuff. She was all slight moans and squeezes with her legs and hands. Little kisses on the neck and ears, slow, passionate kisses with just the right amount of tongue. Made the whole experience seem like a visit to a passionate lover and not a professional massage lady.

There were plenty of positions and the final finish was with Mia BBBJCIM and Tiffany pressed against my body, FIV, moaning in my ear and kissing me. After, I got a light massage and we forgot about the shower. Originally I was sad the shower was occupied, but it ended up not mattering as I was full satisfied.

Tiffany walked me out, handed my a water, and gave me another kiss in the lobby. She said she will be there 2 more weeks and then she is not sure if management will have her back. I certainly hope they do. With her passion she is a refreshing change to the normal experience.[/QUOTE]

In the spirit of the board, let's get back to reviews.

Made a recent trip to VM. Although I've read great reviews about the new gals, I decided to ask for Monica. She has that asian MILF look, I like.

Gave the expected gift on arrival and waited for my turn in the que. The bottleneck seems to be the TS shower room. They could probably benefit from having a second TS room.

Great TS and body slide. Things got hot and heavy on the TS mat.

Times up and back to the room. She got me all worked up, I could only muster a BBBJ and one position.

No massage but a good time. I looked around and I noticed some cosmetology or nail salon equipment has been showing up in the rooms. So if anyone asks, you had your nails done.

Heard a rumor they were closed. Perhaps just vacation maybe?? What the next best? PT?

[QUOTE=RickJohn;7008312]Heard a rumor they were closed. Perhaps just vacation maybe?? What the next best? PT?[/QUOTE]Got text from them saying taking break for vacation and re-open by September 1st.

[QUOTE=RickJohn;7008312]Heard a rumor they were closed. Perhaps just vacation maybe?? What the next best? PT?[/QUOTE]I just talked to Vinca on the phone and they advised that they were closed for 'vacation' until next week.

Have you noticed many AMPs are closing on Sundays or at least decreasing their hours??

[QUOTE=SenecaCuck;7009832]Have you noticed many AMPs are closing on Sundays or at least decreasing their hours??[/QUOTE]I've noticed a large number in Tampa and a few in Pinellas that have closed permanently or closed for renovations. I think some are waiting to see how the law pans out. Out of state license holders probably decided it's not worth the risk to get a professional violation too.

Lily spa (former Body Temple) appears to be renovating. One thing in the new law is no dark tint in massage vestibules. It appears they have removed the limo tint and now have clear windows and and a somewhat legit looking lobbing.

All this will probably push more shops to go locked door and appointment only.

Who's closed Sunday?

[QUOTE=SenecaCuck;7009832]Have you noticed many AMPs are closing on Sundays or at least decreasing their hours??[/QUOTE]Sunday is one of the most busy times for these places so I assume it's a one off situation.

Will be staying at St. Pete Beach. Ideas of FS AMP's or shops would be appreciated. Will not be able to get away for long.

[QUOTE=BeFriends;7013817]Will be staying at St. Pete Beach. Ideas of FS AMP's or shops would be appreciated. Will not be able to get away for long.[/QUOTE]There are none on St. Petersburg Beach that I am aware of. My advice would be to drive to Pine Tree if possible. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=Call234;7014338]There are none on St. Petersburg Beach that I am aware of. My advice would be to drive to Pine Tree if possible. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]This is the Pinetree in Largo, correct? Last year when I was down, I was supposed to go by there and see Soda. She left the day before I arrived. Does anybody know if she's still around in that part of Florida? Are used to see her often in Atlanta.

My assumption, based mostly on this forum and my own experience, was that peak hours for AMPs was weekdays, 9-5. Target demo being older guys who are either retired or work a job that give them an opportunity to get away during the day. Also my experience, the best time to cheat on your wife is when she thinks you are someplace plausible.

My assumptions were being challenged and I sought out some data that you guys might find interesting. As you may know google and your phone team up to track your every move. There are many opt outs and precautions you can take but most people don't bother. Just google "vinca massage" and you can see the popular times when people are there. Granted, because of the way that shopping center is layed out, it might be hard for the cell tower to distinguish between patrons of Vinca, the smoke shop, the gym, etc.

Nonetheless, this could be a helpful tool for planning your visit. Imagine these little blue bars are stacks of little blue pills.

Knowing is half the battle.

[QUOTE=ShlomoGold;7010796]Sunday is one of the most busy times for these places so I assume it's a one off situation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sexhoundtn2;7014574]This is the Pinetree in Largo, correct? Last year when I was down, I was supposed to go by there and see Soda. She left the day before I arrived. Does anybody know if she's still around in that part of Florida? Are used to see her often in Atlanta.[/QUOTE]Yes, the Pine Tree in Largo. I may be mistaken, but I don't think Soda has been in the Tampa Bay area for a while. I saw her once a few years ago, and she was excellent.

[QUOTE=Call234;7015557]Yes, the Pine Tree in Largo. I may be mistaken, but I don't think Soda has been in the Tampa Bay area for a while. I saw her once a few years ago, and she was excellent.[/QUOTE]That is possible. I inquired a couple of weeks before my last visit and was told by a fellow board member that she was there in the area. I got in touch with him my second day there and the same guy told me that she had just left. So I'm not sure. It would be awesome to know where she was. She is probably my ATF only to be rivaled by another lady at a spa that I can't remember the name of or where it was located. Whenever I come to Florida, it's usually round the Clearwater Bradington and Maria area. I remember the spa being on the inside corner of a small business complex and the attendant was probably in her 40's maybe early 50's and openly offered, a trip to Greece without my asking. It was a late night visit and as far as I could tell, she was the only one there. The harder I pounded that ass the more she moaned and push back on me. Maybe one of the best experiences I've ever had and I think the only Greek experience I've ever had at a spa. She very much appear to enjoy her job. I would love to run across her again, but have no idea what her name was and that was several years ago.

Coming up from, Sarasota with no knowledge of the AMP's in St. Pete / Tampa region. Only knowledge is the reports on the forums. I know BBFS is something that shouldn't be put on blast on the forums. Any of why'all know of a place or girls up there that do? Inbox me please and thank you. If why'all can't, I understand, for privacy reasons. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=TejanoBurns;7017111]Coming up from, Sarasota with no knowledge of the AMP's in St. Pete / Tampa region. Only knowledge is the reports on the forums. I know BBFS is something that shouldn't be put on blast on the forums. Any of why'all know of a place or girls up there that do? Inbox me please and thank you. If why'all can't, I understand, for privacy reasons. Thanks again.[/QUOTE]No AMPs that I know of or have seen any reviews for.

Does VM reopen today?

[QUOTE=TremontTeddy;7017789]Does VM reopen today?[/QUOTE]They were supposed to reopen on Saturday.

Yuki, Mia and Eva working today.

I really don't think you'll find BBFS-CIP in the AMPs around here.

You may want to check out the St. Pete BBFS forum here: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?25216-BBFS-and-BBBJ.[/URL] It is not very active, but if you ask a frew questions there it just might start the 411 rolling again.

JT.

[QUOTE=TejanoBurns;7017111]Coming up from, Sarasota with no knowledge of the AMP's in St. Pete / Tampa region. Only knowledge is the reports on the forums. I know BBFS is something that shouldn't be put on blast on the forums. Any of why'all know of a place or girls up there that do? Inbox me please and thank you. If why'all can't, I understand, for privacy reasons. Thanks again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohninTampa;7018653]I really don't think you'll find BBFS-CIP in the AMPs around here.

You may want to check out the St. Pete BBFS forum here: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?25216-BBFS-and-BBBJ.[/URL] It is not very active, but if you ask a frew questions there it just might start the 411 rolling again.

JT.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Sir! I did find some reports of a, LuLu, but her whereabouts are known and unknown, or if it's her or a different, LuLu making rounds. If she is still around and the actual, LuLu, she's definitely what I'm looking for!

I swung by vinca last night at about 8:00. Not a single car in the parking lot when I arrived. I had decided to try out the new girl, Eva. Appearance wise she's quite young (mid 20's), slender, with medium, well shaped breasts, large womb tattoo. At first I was excited, paid for the hour, and got ready. Then I learned she only arrived that afternoon and had never worked an AMP before. Things went downhill from there.

She didn't know what a ts service was or how to do it, which meant she led me there while shouting 'table shower! Table shower!' Along with words in Chinese that I assume meant something along the lines of, 'someone show me what to do!' I assume that because she promptly told me in English once we got to the room that she didn't know what to do and needed a senior attendant to explain it to her.

Oh, the AC is also broken so it's on *full blast* constantly. Now imagine waiting on a wet table with a confused attendant occasionally spraying some warm water on your back when the AC is set as low as it can go. I was less than enthused.

Well, Mia wanders over, grumpily snaps something at Eva, then leaves. Nowhere near enough syllables to be full instructions so I assume it was something close to, 'figure it out, it's not hard'.

She returns to nervously washing me down and asking me where I'm from, telling me where she is from, the standard AMP 'small talk'. To her credit she did wash and fondle junior a bit, but didn't strip herself, no body-to-body, or any of the standard ts activities. I decided not to make a stink since I was apparently her first one and it seemed she was getting no help from the older attendants at all.

We go back to the room after she (mostly) dries me off and the AC makes itself known again. So she gets me on the table and sees what's happening and covers me with a fresh towel. Ok, that was good. She starts a very. Lackluster massage through the towel, but again, I had decided to be charitable so I just settled in to enjoy what I could. Well, then someone new comes in. Mia takes him to a different room and I hear whispered conversation, then Mia comes to my room, snaps a few things at Eva, and Eva jumps like a startled rabbit to run out of the room. Mia leaves, then about two minutes later returns to say, 'she coming back, just minute, she coming back' to me before leaving again before I can say anything. FIFTEEN MINUTES (during which multiple guys walk in, and get led to rooms. One guy is left in the lobby so long he walks out. I should have joined him.) go by as I use the towels in the room to finish drying off and keep warm. Finally Eva and Mia return, and Mia asks what I want with Eva. "Well, I paid for an hour. So I want an hour with Eva. " Mia and Eva both nod enthusiastically and Eva kisses me. I smell the mouthwash and know for certain that Mia took her to go service the guy who came in AFTER me in a rushed way. Now I'm very annoyed.

Mia asks for the donation and I go get $. 40 from my pants. As I'm doing that Eva scurries over to start stroking junior from behind. She did seem genuinely embarrassed and eager to be fair, but the situation was getting me increasingly mad. So I hand her the $. 40 and she starts to take it away, gets scolded in Chinese, counts it, and then Mia starts saying "no, $$. $$ because new girl!" To me. I respond with, "I've been here several times with Angela and Tiffany and never paid above $. 60. " Mia shuts up and nods, then leaves. Eva beams and runs off to put the money away, disappears again, I'm guessing she got dragged off to attend to other guys first AGAIN because when she came back I could smell the mouthwash the instant the door opened. Then comes back and gets scolded outside the door. Again. She comes back in looking unhappy and says, "baby, we need hurry, Mia say we are busy. " Now, by this point it's past 9:00 and I have been either alone or getting the runaround for all but the ten minutes of my ts. Well I can't get my money back at this point so I decide I'm just going to take however long I take and they can deal with it.

The actual act was. Ok I guess. She seemed to get into it once things started up, stopped checking the monitors and started breathing differently, twitching, and melting onto the table, etc. I was pretty pent up so I didn't drag it out much and finished in her mouth. She bounced up then, got the cleaning supplies, and said to take my time because she'd be right back before running to the bathroom, leaving my door wide open. I shut it and got dressed, she came back freshly smelling of mouthwash to tell me to come back, she liked me, the usual AMP niceties. Then ran out the door again as Mia walked in and gave some more orders in unhappy-sounding Chinese. Mia then tells me how busy they are, makes excuses, blah blah blah. I said that I paid for an hour and since I was there first, I should have been the priority, and got a shrug from Mia, who then left, leaving the door wide open again.

I finished dressing and just walked out, causing Eva to jump out of a room down the hall and run across said hall. She hugged me, repeated that I was, of course, 'her favorite' (eye roll here), and to come back soon when they aren't busy.

Considering I arrive two hours before closing, reserved Eva ahead of time, and paid for the hour upfront, walk-in business shouldn't have made a difference. But as soon as they have any portion of your money in the drop box, they stop caring about customer service or you in general. So I just stared at her disbelievingly, said, 'I don't think I will', and left.

Tldr: Mia fails to train new hire in any way, gives at least three guys the runaround by yanking Eva from person to person, lies about how much time I will get, trues to overcharge, and seems to verbally abuse Eva the entire time. Don't go in on a Sunday, and if anyone pulls your attendant away, start demanding money back instead of being any amount of understanding.

I cruised through Sunday evening. Was met by Yuki. She is 4' 11", thin, appears 29, long dark hair, perfect Bs. She has a distinctive face, pretty and atypical of the other Chinese women I've met. She didn't talk much but seems to know her English pretty good.

Did the table shower first. She checked all the boxes. Back in the room. Mia came in and pitched the tag team for and extra bill. I politely declined but I want to try her 1:1. She seems really assertive. Yuki was sweet and did exactly what I wanted. Also gave a head to toe massage at the end.

The only weird thing were some additional interruptions from Mia. She came in while Yuki and I were in the middle of things and engaged Yuki in a pretty in depth conversation. I have no idea what they were talking about. Again, after the climax, Mia called out to Yuki through the door. It was as if she was monitoring us. I did not mind.

[QUOTE=EskimoBrother;7017835]They were supposed to reopen on Saturday.

Yuki, Mia and Eva working today.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horace4000;7019139]I swung by vinca last night at about 8:00. Not a single car in the parking lot when I arrived. I had decided to try out the new girl, Eva. Appearance wise she's quite young (mid 20's), slender, with medium, well shaped breasts, large womb tattoo. At first I was excited, paid for the hour, and got ready. Then I learned she only arrived that afternoon and had never worked an AMP before. Things went downhill from there.

She didn't know what a ts service was or how to do it, which meant she led me there while shouting 'table shower! Table shower!' Along with words in Chinese that I assume meant something along the lines of, 'someone show me what to do!' I assume that because she promptly told me in English once we got to the room that she didn't know what to do and needed a senior attendant to explain it to her.

Oh, the AC is also broken so it's on *full blast* constantly. Now imagine waiting on a wet table with a confused attendant occasionally spraying some warm water on your back when the AC is set as low as it can go. I was less than enthused.

Well, Mia wanders over, grumpily snaps something at Eva, then leaves. Nowhere near enough syllables to be full instructions so I assume it was something close to, 'figure it out, it's not hard'.

She returns to nervously washing me down and asking me where I'm from, telling me where she is from, the standard AMP 'small talk'. To her credit she did wash and fondle junior a bit, but didn't strip herself, no body-to-body, or any of the standard ts activities. I decided not to make a stink since I was apparently her first one and it seemed she was getting no help from the older attendants at all.

We go back to the room after she (mostly) dries me off and the AC makes itself known again. So she gets me on the table and sees what's happening and covers me with a fresh towel. Ok, that was good. She starts a very. Lackluster massage through the towel, but again, I had decided to be charitable so I just settled in to enjoy what I could. Well, then someone new comes in. Mia takes him to a different room and I hear whispered conversation, then Mia comes to my room, snaps a few things at Eva, and Eva jumps like a startled rabbit to run out of the room. Mia leaves, then about two minutes later returns to say, 'she coming back, just minute, she coming back' to me before leaving again before I can say anything. FIFTEEN MINUTES (during which multiple guys walk in, and get led to rooms. One guy is left in the lobby so long he walks out. I should have joined him.) go by as I use the towels in the room to finish drying off and keep warm. Finally Eva and Mia return, and Mia asks what I want with Eva. "Well, I paid for an hour. So I want an hour with Eva. " Mia and Eva both nod enthusiastically and Eva kisses me. I smell the mouthwash and know for certain that Mia took her to go service the guy who came in AFTER me in a rushed way. Now I'm very annoyed.

Mia asks for the donation and I go get $. 40 from my pants. As I'm doing that Eva scurries over to start stroking junior from behind. She did seem genuinely embarrassed and eager to be fair, but the situation was getting me increasingly mad. So I hand her the $. 40 and she starts to take it away, gets scolded in Chinese, counts it, and then Mia starts saying "no, $$. $$ because new girl!" To me. I respond with, "I've been here several times with Angela and Tiffany and never paid above $. 60. " Mia shuts up and nods, then leaves. Eva beams and runs off to put the money away, disappears again, I'm guessing she got dragged off to attend to other guys first AGAIN because when she came back I could smell the mouthwash the instant the door opened. Then comes back and gets scolded outside the door. Again. She comes back in looking unhappy and says, "baby, we need hurry, Mia say we are busy. " Now, by this point it's past 9:00 and I have been either alone or getting the runaround for all but the ten minutes of my ts. Well I can't get my money back at this point so I decide I'm just going to take however long I take and they can deal with it.

The actual act was. Ok I guess. She seemed to get into it once things started up, stopped checking the monitors and started breathing differently, twitching, and melting onto the table, etc. I was pretty pent up so I didn't drag it out much and finished in her mouth. She bounced up then, got the cleaning supplies, and said to take my time because she'd be right back before running to the bathroom, leaving my door wide open. I shut it and got dressed, she came back freshly smelling of mouthwash to tell me to come back, she liked me, the usual AMP niceties. Then ran out the door again as Mia walked in and gave some more orders in unhappy-sounding Chinese. Mia then tells me how busy they are, makes excuses, blah blah blah. I said that I paid for an hour and since I was there first, I should have been the priority, and got a shrug from Mia, who then left, leaving the door wide open again.

I finished dressing and just walked out, causing Eva to jump out of a room down the hall and run across said hall. She hugged me, repeated that I was, of course, 'her favorite' (eye roll here), and to come back soon when they aren't busy.

Considering I arrive two hours before closing, reserved Eva ahead of time, and paid for the hour upfront, walk-in business shouldn't have made a difference. But as soon as they have any portion of your money in the drop box, they stop caring about customer service or you in general. So I just stared at her disbelievingly, said, 'I don't think I will', and left.

Tldr: Mia fails to train new hire in any way, gives at least three guys the runaround by yanking Eva from person to person, lies about how much time I will get, trues to overcharge, and seems to verbally abuse Eva the entire time. Don't go in on a Sunday, and if anyone pulls your attendant away, start demanding money back instead of being any amount of understanding.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I have been there several times and have never had a session like that. What a mess.

[QUOTE=Absence;7019162]I cruised through Sunday evening. Was met by Yuki. She is 4' 11", thin, appears 29, long dark hair, perfect Bs. She has a distinctive face, pretty and atypical of the other Chinese women I've met. She didn't talk much but seems to know her English pretty good.

Did the table shower first. She checked all the boxes. Back in the room. Mia came in and pitched the tag team for and extra bill. I politely declined but I want to try her 1:1. She seems really assertive. Yuki was sweet and did exactly what I wanted. Also gave a head to toe massage at the end.

The only weird thing were some additional interruptions from Mia. She came in while Yuki and I were in the middle of things and engaged Yuki in a pretty in depth conversation. I have no idea what they were talking about. Again, after the climax, Mia called out to Yuki through the door. It was as if she was monitoring us. I did not mind.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report as well. Yuki sounds good to me; I will hope to see her in the next week or so. I will keep my fingers crossed that I do not show up at a busy time.

Went mid day on Labor Day. Scheduled Yuki since there were no reviews and I felt like being a little risky. Eva greeted me and she's pretty but I told her I already scheduled with Yuki. When she entered the room she was in tight workout clothes that turned me on and she has a pretty memorable face as well. I don't typically go for her type but man she was rocking that outfit. TS was good and got some B2 B, but not as much as I normally get there. She also didn't really hop on top, it was like an awkward half 69 where her ass was near my shoulders as she bent over to give some BBBJ. Same situation in the room. Didn't spend a lot of time with the BBBJ and was not much into DFK. She stuck her tongue out and at some point licked my nose while kissing. Breath could probably use some work. Overall a good session but I'll try Eva next time. I have a preference to her face, but they're both pretty in different ways. Also no TUMA though I never ask for it or even like it.

[QUOTE=Horace4000;7019139]I swung by vinca last night at about 8:00. Not a single car in the parking lot when I arrived. I had decided to try out the new girl, Eva. Appearance wise she's quite young (mid 20's), slender, with medium, well shaped breasts, large womb tattoo. At first I was excited, paid for the hour, and got ready. Then I learned she only arrived that afternoon and had never worked an AMP before. Things went downhill from there.

She didn't know what a ts service was or how to do it, which meant she led me there while shouting 'table shower! Table shower!' Along with words in Chinese that I assume meant something along the lines of, 'someone show me what to do!' I assume that because she promptly told me in English once we got to the room that she didn't know what to do and needed a senior attendant to explain it to her.

Oh, the AC is also broken so it's on *full blast* constantly. Now imagine waiting on a wet table with a confused attendant occasionally spraying some warm water on your back when the AC is set as low as it can go. I was less than enthused.

Well, Mia wanders over, grumpily snaps something at Eva, then leaves. Nowhere near enough syllables to be full instructions so I assume it was something close to, 'figure it out, it's not hard'.

She returns to nervously washing me down and asking me where I'm from, telling me where she is from, the standard AMP 'small talk'. To her credit she did wash and fondle junior a bit, but didn't strip herself, no body-to-body, or any of the standard ts activities. I decided not to make a stink since I was apparently her first one and it seemed she was getting no help from the older attendants at all.

We go back to the room after she (mostly) dries me off and the AC makes itself known again. So she gets me on the table and sees what's happening and covers me with a fresh towel. Ok, that was good. She starts a very. Lackluster massage through the towel, but again, I had decided to be charitable so I just settled in to enjoy what I could. Well, then someone new comes in. Mia takes him to a different room and I hear whispered conversation, then Mia comes to my room, snaps a few things at Eva, and Eva jumps like a startled rabbit to run out of the room. Mia leaves, then about two minutes later returns to say, 'she coming back, just minute, she coming back' to me before leaving again before I can say anything. FIFTEEN MINUTES (during which multiple guys walk in, and get led to rooms. One guy is left in the lobby so long he walks out. I should have joined him.) go by as I use the towels in the room to finish drying off and keep warm. Finally Eva and Mia return, and Mia asks what I want with Eva. "Well, I paid for an hour. So I want an hour with Eva. " Mia and Eva both nod enthusiastically and Eva kisses me. I smell the mouthwash and know for certain that Mia took her to go service the guy who came in AFTER me in a rushed way. Now I'm very annoyed.

Mia asks for the donation and I go get $. 40 from my pants. As I'm doing that Eva scurries over to start stroking junior from behind. She did seem genuinely embarrassed and eager to be fair, but the situation was getting me increasingly mad. So I hand her the $. 40 and she starts to take it away, gets scolded in Chinese, counts it, and then Mia starts saying "no, $$. $$ because new girl!" To me. I respond with, "I've been here several times with Angela and Tiffany and never paid above $. 60. " Mia shuts up and nods, then leaves. Eva beams and runs off to put the money away, disappears again, I'm guessing she got dragged off to attend to other guys first AGAIN because when she came back I could smell the mouthwash the instant the door opened. Then comes back and gets scolded outside the door. Again. She comes back in looking unhappy and says, "baby, we need hurry, Mia say we are busy. " Now, by this point it's past 9:00 and I have been either alone or getting the runaround for all but the ten minutes of my ts. Well I can't get my money back at this point so I decide I'm just going to take however long I take and they can deal with it.

The actual act was. Ok I guess. She seemed to get into it once things started up, stopped checking the monitors and started breathing differently, twitching, and melting onto the table, etc. I was pretty pent up so I didn't drag it out much and finished in her mouth. She bounced up then, got the cleaning supplies, and said to take my time because she'd be right back before running to the bathroom, leaving my door wide open. I shut it and got dressed, she came back freshly smelling of mouthwash to tell me to come back, she liked me, the usual AMP niceties. Then ran out the door again as Mia walked in and gave some more orders in unhappy-sounding Chinese. Mia then tells me how busy they are, makes excuses, blah blah blah. I said that I paid for an hour and since I was there first, I should have been the priority, and got a shrug from Mia, who then left, leaving the door wide open again.

I finished dressing and just walked out, causing Eva to jump out of a room down the hall and run across said hall. She hugged me, repeated that I was, of course, 'her favorite' (eye roll here), and to come back soon when they aren't busy.

Considering I arrive two hours before closing, reserved Eva ahead of time, and paid for the hour upfront, walk-in business shouldn't have made a difference. But as soon as they have any portion of your money in the drop box, they stop caring about customer service or you in general. So I just stared at her disbelievingly, said, 'I don't think I will', and left.

Tldr: Mia fails to train new hire in any way, gives at least three guys the runaround by yanking Eva from person to person, lies about how much time I will get, trues to overcharge, and seems to verbally abuse Eva the entire time. Don't go in on a Sunday, and if anyone pulls your attendant away, start demanding money back instead of being any amount of understanding.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a typical Vinca experience. Maybe slightly worse.

It pained me to see that you guys didn't get a good experience with this place. Vinca is more of a miss than hit according to the recent negative reviews. I went to this place once about a year ago to try it out and get a great service. Nowadays I have been going to Palace and Pine Tree as their service is always consistent. I always see Sophia in Palace and Joanne in Pine Tree, they are the best and money well spent.

Walk in with no appointment. Take the next available gal. Pay for half hour and tip in room. Wait for your turn in Table Shower que. Hope for the best! Don't expect a massage or full time. Do expect the best gals and fun in the TB area.

[QUOTE=RaulBrudda123;7020672]It pained me to see that you guys didn't get a good experience with this place. Vinca is more of a miss than hit according to the recent negative reviews. I went to this place once about a year ago to try it out and get a great service. Nowadays I have been going to Palace and Pine Tree as their service is always consistent. I always see Sophia in Palace and Joanne in Pine Tree, they are the best and money well spent.[/QUOTE]I went to Vinca twice. First time was great, the second time sucked. I realized that the second experience was much indicative of Vinca than the first. I have since only gone to PT or Palace. . . Much more enjoyable.

Gator.

Yes and. This is only a slight modification. It's worked for me, to get what I want.

Always ask for names, if you aren't acquainted. If you don't like your draw on attendant, ask for someone else. The hour is only an extra $20. NBD. So, pay for the hour but when you pay, tell them you want the table shower first. It shouldn't be that long of a wait. Yes, tip in the room, before you go to shower. Once the main event is over, just lay back and relax. Stay put till you get rubbed the way that you want.

[QUOTE=TremontTeddy;7021252]Walk in with no appointment. Take the next available gal. Pay for half hour and tip in room. Wait for your turn in Table Shower que. Hope for the best! Don't expect a massage or full time. Do expect the best gals and fun in the TB area.[/QUOTE]

I take it from recent reviews that Kiki isn't at Vinca anymore. I saw her 2-3 times and had a great experience. Any idea where she went, or who would be the next best thing?

Anyone ever caught something doing BBBJ / BBFS? I understand there's always risk, of course, but around this area, do we look clear?

Hello,

Anyone has any ideas who current at palace?

FYI. Joanne at PT will be out for all most 3 month due to travel back to KR.

Therefore, if you need to see her, hurry up. Her last day would be 9/8.

Cheers, AZ.

[QUOTE=Gator1961;7021413]I went to Vinca twice. First time was great, the second time sucked. I realized that the second experience was much indicative of Vinca than the first. I have since only gone to PT or Palace. . . Much more enjoyable.

Gator.[/QUOTE]I have been going to Vinca since Oct 2021 - It was my FIRST AMP ever.

NEVER had a bad experience at Vinca. Old owner (Amy) was great and very pretty and a nice personality. She sold the place in Nov of 2023 - That is why people see a big change in the services.

I have been there 3 times since the new owners came on and had GREAT service every time. YMMV. Please voice Any concerns you have right away and they will be more likely to make it up to you. The extra girl special for $100 is great. You HAVE to try it. The BBBJ, CIM, TUMA, Rimjobs, etc. , and table shower slides are Awesome! Ask what their slow times are on the phone and try to schedule for those times, SIMPLE! Enjoy!

[QUOTE=DanZ42;7021947]I take it from recent reviews that Kiki isn't at Vinca anymore. I saw her 2-3 times and had a great experience. Any idea where she went, or who would be the next best thing?[/QUOTE]Kiki is not there but last time I went there Mia was there. She is also top provider like Kiki.

[QUOTE=AzFla01;7022931]Hello,

Anyone has any ideas who current at palace?

FYI. Joanne at PT will be out for all most 3 month due to travel back to KR.

Therefore, if you need to see her, hurry up. Her last day would be 9/8.

Cheers, AZ.[/QUOTE]May and Sophia. May there for another month, but Sophia due to leave any day now.

[QUOTE=MiyakoFan;7023759]May and Sophia. May there for another month, but Sophia due to leave any day now.[/QUOTE]They come down from Flushing, NY. Someday I hope to be in visit this magical city where the streets are lined with "golden Chinese pussy".

[QUOTE=MiyakoFan;7023759]May and Sophia. May there for another month, but Sophia due to leave any day now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TremontTeddy;7023828]They come down from Flushing, NY. Someday I hope to be in visit this magical city where the streets are lined with "golden Chinese pussy".[/QUOTE]Yup, Flushing is well known for Chinese providers. Are Sophia and May Chinese or Korean? Are either pretty, or exceptional in some way? Rim?

I spent a week in DC this summer being a tourist and hobbying and really enjoyed myself. I'd thought seriously about NYC (with Flushing / Queens in mind), but at the time it was significantly more expensive for flights, accommodations, and sightseeing, so I chose DC. After continuing to read the Manhattan and Queens forums, I'm going to have to be disciplined and save my shekels to make the trip. So much to do in every regard, and tangentially if you like Chinese and Korean food as well, it appears there's no better place on the East Coast for a variety of authentic Asian food at a good price. The Chinatown in Flushing is apparently bigger and more diverse than Manhattan. Got a bit off topic there. . .