Massage Parlor Reports

QUOTE=Seminole John]Vs I agree with you to a point.

I have been guilty of the over-share in the past but try to be more carefull now.

I've had provider contact me and say she is uncomfortable with something I have posted and I edited to her satisfaction.---SJ

" I applaud you, you did the right thing. Remember these girls are human with feelings, some don't care but most do. There is a girl on here who is 50 lbs. heavier than her pics and I know that she would be devastated if I posted that so I don't. She is a good, sober, friendly , clean provider and if a guy shows up and is dissatisfied he can leave. She never upsells, never ever rushes and her fee is very reasonable. While I prefer slimmer women, many of the real hot ones are a pain in the ass."-VS

As I would think most providers would have figured out, most of us guys respond pretty well to feedback.-SJ

"I'm sure your correct but remember " You can't un-ring a bell" Many a judge has told the jury to "disregard that statement" but once it's said it's said"-VS

Some level of detail I think is necessary. Its a big world out there with lots of people and each one is a little different. What may pass as "I had a great time" for one guy may leave another guy fealing totally ripped off. Perhaps PM is best way to handle that, I don't't know.--SJ

"Detail is totally unnecessary because as you state above everyone is different. Y.M.M.V. will always be the case. If you go to a session with the expectation of what another guy has said and you don't get the same you feel burned even though he may be totally F.O.S. and many times that is the case."-VS

Now a couple of suggestions for the providers would include:

1. If you don't want new people contacting you don't post on the internet.--SJ

"They do want people contacting them,but ranting on boards when you can't reach them does no good"-VS

2. Cell phones are essentially disposable nowadays. Getting different numbers for different girls should be pretty cheap. If the scheduler only wants to carry one phone she can have the on the others forward to that one phone. I think that would limit cross talk.--SJ

"Answering the phone sounds easy but is the most difficult job in the industry, your solution sounds easy but it really isn't,I don't want to explain it to you as it's information you will never need in your daily life. If you've seen a provider before and you can never get ahold of her again there could be a variety of reasons--one of which may be you+ or your behavior."-VS

I understand high quality providers can get overwhelmed with request but there must be a way of dealing with it that does not leave their customers feeling like they're being blown off.--SJ

" Sometimes you are being blown off, you just have to deal with it.
If you have a solution to that problem--post it.
Most of us are egocentric and feel like we are the most important thing in the world, what you have to understand is that there are only a few appointments available per day, like all businesses there are busy and slow times, you have a much better chance of getting a 3 o'clock than a 5 or 5:30 time. And guys play "No show" all to often and some girls overbook and somebody gets "Blown-off" '-VS

Vs it appears we just have some philosophic difference on the point of this board.

I view it as a users group for a particular industry. A place where consumers experiences and provides information to one another so that we may all make more informed decisions in the future. While the providers may have input here the board ultimately is not for them.

Your example of the provider is in fact 50 lbs heavier than she represents to the buying public I see as a perfect example of something that should be shared here. The intent is not the hurt the persons feeling but give others making a decision relevent information. To most guys misrepresenting her weight would be a material issues. While its easy to if they don't like it they can just leave, I among others and of the opinion that time is the most valuable commodity as it cannot be replaced. Once its gone its gone. For someone to travel half an hour or 45 minutes to meet someone on false pretenses is a significant issue. I think most here would appreciate you saving them from wasting an hour or so of their time. This also goes counter to one of your reasons for the board, verifying appearance of provided.

Your point on what is said cannot be unsaid is valid. One can their best to make ammends for any damage done and strive not to repeat it. Unless an act was particular egregious or malicious I think terminating a business relationship after a single mistep is probably counter-productive. Talk through the issue with the other party and clarify expectations. If you don't you can do this with that person or they are unresponsive to your concerns that's probably an indicaton you should be doing business with then.

Details are something we will probably not come agreement. Even after serarating the industry into the segments of escorts and massage/body rubs there is still a wide range of services offered it each. Some indication of what is and is not provide is relevent in making the choice of provider. I know the arguement about informing leo but in reality they assume that all providers advertising here or on backpage or craiglist are breaking the law. No statement made on this board is relevent in a court of law. And to leo there is no difference between getting a HJ or FS, if you're caught its all prostituition. The specific act is not really relevent. Girls advertising massage actually increase their risk because its a lot easier jump on the license issue versus proving prostitituion.

On my comment on not advertising if they don't want new customers I took your originally statement that she is afraid to see new clients as she is not seeing new clients. My bad.

My smart ass answer to your comment on the phones is "Hey, its a business. No one said it was suppose to be easy. "

My real answer is that it was not meant as a criticism but a possibly helpfulf suggestion. I know other providers who utilize common back-office support so I know its doable. You may also be suprised on what I use on a daily basis. I work for a large company and travel a great deal. In addition I have several side businesses that I run. I have 7 different phone numbers and can tell you from experience it can be managed. There's an ap for the iphone that allows multiple numbers to ring to one phone. It will tell you which number is ringing and also supports separate mail boxes for each. Honestly just trying to be helpful.

Besides if you don't want people to know that you are link to people X, Y&Z its probably not smart to post the same phone # as X, Y, &Z. (OK that was simi smart ass)

I was unaware that I was ranting against anyone. So if that's how its percieved, my bad.

I think its highly unlike that Brittany has anything personally against as I've never met her.

Accessablility and reliability are again valid issues for discussion. My example would be the famous Brooke from Casselberry. The girl was smoking hot and if you got an appointment with her it was out of this world. BUT that IF you got the appointment was a big if. She was nearly impossible to get a hold of and if you did make an appointment with her 1/4 of the time she blew you off. All things someone may want to consider in making a decision.

I was no alone in the opinion that Brittany is hard to get a hold of and she essentially conceded that point in her last post with tips for improving odds for response.

A lot of this comes down to brand and customer management. Some girls out there (Goddess Maria, Paris Bouvier, Goddess Venus come to mind) do this well which allows them to be selective in clientele and charge premium prices. Others (I won't name as I don't want to offend any one) do not.

I doubt we come to agreement just presenting my views.

So lets just agree to disagree and not get in a pissing contest.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]QUOTE=Seminole John]Vs I agree with you to a point.

I have been guilty of the over-share in the past but try to be more carefull now.

I've had provider contact me and say she is uncomfortable with something I have posted and I edited to her satisfaction.---SJ

" I applaud you, you did the right thing. Remember these girls are human with feelings, some don't care but most do. There is a girl on here who is 50 lbs. heavier than her pics and I know that she would be devastated if I posted that so I don't. She is a good, sober, friendly , clean provider and if a guy shows up and is dissatisfied he can leave. She never upsells, never ever rushes and her fee is very reasonable. While I prefer slimmer women, many of the real hot ones are a pain in the ass."-VS

As I would think most providers would have figured out, most of us guys respond pretty well to feedback.-SJ

"I'm sure your correct but remember " You can't un-ring a bell" Many a judge has told the jury to "disregard that statement" but once it's said it's said"-VS

Some level of detail I think is necessary. Its a big world out there with lots of people and each one is a little different. What may pass as "I had a great time" for one guy may leave another guy fealing totally ripped off. Perhaps PM is best way to handle that, I don't't know.--SJ

"Detail is totally unnecessary because as you state above everyone is different. Y.M.M.V. will always be the case. If you go to a session with the expectation of what another guy has said and you don't get the same you feel burned even though he may be totally F.O.S. and many times that is the case."-VS

Now a couple of suggestions for the providers would include:

1. If you don't want new people contacting you don't post on the internet.--SJ

"They do want people contacting them,but ranting on boards when you can't reach them does no good"-VS

2. Cell phones are essentially disposable nowadays. Getting different numbers for different girls should be pretty cheap. If the scheduler only wants to carry one phone she can have the on the others forward to that one phone. I think that would limit cross talk.--SJ

"Answering the phone sounds easy but is the most difficult job in the industry, your solution sounds easy but it really isn't,I don't want to explain it to you as it's information you will never need in your daily life. If you've seen a provider before and you can never get ahold of her again there could be a variety of reasons--one of which may be you+ or your behavior."-VS

I understand high quality providers can get overwhelmed with request but there must be a way of dealing with it that does not leave their customers feeling like they're being blown off.--SJ

" Sometimes you are being blown off, you just have to deal with it.
If you have a solution to that problem--post it.
Most of us are egocentric and feel like we are the most important thing in the world, what you have to understand is that there are only a few appointments available per day, like all businesses there are busy and slow times, you have a much better chance of getting a 3 o'clock than a 5 or 5:30 time. And guys play "No show" all to often and some girls overbook and somebody gets "Blown-off" '-VS[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Seminole John]Vs it appears we just have some philosophic difference on the point of this board.

... {Lots of well expressed opinions } ...

... So lets just agree to disagree and not get in a pissing contest.[/QUOTE]This specific exchange of reasonable approaches to this board was greatly refreshing. Both of you explained your thoughts in plain english and without resorting to name-calling or foul language.

My personal opinion on these matters has changed slightly upon reflection of this discussion.

I just wanted to thank both of you for demonstrating that there can be civil discourse here and in society in general. Not all of us are going to agree on everything, but that does not necessarily make one side or the other wrong.

Now, back to the business of meeting hot ladies that provide a fun time!

You seem to be coming at this predilection for sex from a completely business point of view. I would suspect that most providers have no clue as to "brand management" "back room support" multitasking phone operations etc.

As in any human endeavor there are levels, most girls in this career are are not educated they are not stupid just not MBA's, many are addicted or have psychological problems.

They do all have one thing in common they are human beings with real feelings!

If we look at them as Toyotas and we argue about their horsepower and aerodynamics and then decide to buy a Buick because it has a bigger engine up front or a sleeker tail, then we dehumanize them, there is much more that goes into an encounter than visual assessment that is why I didn't identify the 50 lb. girl, she has had several complimentary reviews and as we all disagree on which car to drive, who am I to tell anyone what should turn them on, you keyed in on her weight but did you "hear" the other things I said?

Your time management issue is valid but on a strictly individual basis, some care some don't, I use to but I don't anymore I've lightened up because I realized I won't die if I don't get laid today and I've wasted tons of time on "brick walls' trust me. On the other hand i've spent glorious times with "Brick shit-houses" LOL.

Not so many years ago there was no internet, or readily accessible cellphones and every meeting with a provider was "cold" you never knew what you were going to get, now it seems that we want guarantees, great concept but it isn't going to happen, this board is helpful but not perfect nor am I.

As to who the board is for; it's for anyone with an opinion. Through the years there have been providers with strong opinions on here, I have gotten into strong arguments with men and women but we all survived and hopefully learned, that's my take but everyone has their opinion and since it's a public board, what comes, comes.

I won't get into the LE thing I'll just say that things are not as cut and dried as you or others may think. Many things are factored in as to who gets targeted.

As you said "Lets not get into a pissing contest" I just wanted the board know where I'm coming from, I love double entendre!

One thing I would ask of you is to reread (preview) your posts before putting them up, and turn on your computers spell checker, many words are misspelled or left out that complete the thought, which makes the flow choppy.----VS

Hey guys,

Just a quick question. Has anybody here ever had a massage with two girls? I have always wanted to try, but it's always twice the price.

Is it worth it?

[QUOTE=Scruffy 35]Hey guys,

Just a quick question. Has anybody here ever had a massage with two girls? I have always wanted to try, but it's always twice the price.

Is it worth it?[/QUOTE]I have done a lot of threesomes (what can I say, it happens) and it really depends on the chemistry with the girls. Same goes for the massages. Some girls look at it as a chance to let one girl do all the work while she chills, other girls look at it as play time.

My recommendation for the massage is to see both of them individually first and develop a rapport. Also, look for signs how they get along. As for pricing it should be two-thirds or less double the price.

Found this in the Jacksonville massage section

Southside south of Beach

Swung by for an early Friday lunch. The parking lot was jammed with cars. Some cars were parked on the grass. One of those stores must be giving away free money or something.

Parked in the adjoining lot and walked over. Mamasan buzzed me in. "Are you busy?" No, no. The parking lot is full. "Other stores..." mamasan said. She then introduced me to Kim. A slightly taller Korean girl from Manhattan via Orlando. Attractive and accommodating girl. I ordered the Southside Special and enjoyed it. Will repeat.

Nice to see the civil debate, VerySlowly and Seminole John.

As for the 50 lb difference, that would be a dealbreaker for me, as I prefer thinner ones.

If I set up an appt, got there and found the girl 50 lbs heavier than her pix, I would leave, and while I would try to be nice about, her feelings would likely be hurt. And that could happen many times to her.

Better to know ahead of time thru this board, and never make the call in the first place to that provider.

They have a responsibility to be fairly accurate in their pix and descriptions, otherwise they are setting themselves up for their feelings to be hurt multiple times.

[QUOTE=Scruffy 35]Hey guys,

Just a quick question. Has anybody here ever had a massage with two girls? I have always wanted to try, but it's always twice the price.

Is it worth it?[/QUOTE]I have experienced one before and while the sensation is nice with extra hands, I think the experience would have been better if it was FS rather than a body rub.

[QUOTE=Magnum Plus]The last time (recent) I have been to both locations I did notice some strange activity going on. I saw suspicious unmarked LE vehicles parked in twos side by side parked out back in both locations watching both parlors for an unusual extended amount of time. Do you know if theres any heat going on there? Went to FO first, saw them parked so I ventured out to Annes spotted another pair of unmarked cop cars and I waited for about an hour and the guys in the cars never left so I gave up. Drove down to VIP greeted by a very attractive older lady in the front and led to another older a bit heavy sized women. Hosed me down in a sit down stand up wash room kind of different than a ts. Gave me one of the best similar Asahi type service. Down edge lady not that hot. Up ledge her service is top notch pro. One of the better services I have recieved on that side of town. Tried Bodyworks of Asia a few weeks back and shit the women were god damn so fuckin ugly simple fukin lame handshakes and the virgin attitude.

Hands down Vip is good stuff.[/QUOTE]Well Far Orient has some Problems a few years ago. But they seem to have everything under control. Maybe their time has come to be Checked out by Uncle LEO again. Annes has always been cool. No problems but swithcing therapists back and forth with FO. VIP is strange. OLD and Mid Old Asians with hit or miss. They have their own pending problems with their Uncle. The New Bodyworks of Asia is the Most Upscale of the Group. Very Clean and good enviorment. No TS. Just a Shower. But very High Quality Massages from a variety of licensed Asains. $ 90 1st time but discount next. One real looker and they seem very interested in keeping your business. Legit place with possibilies for friends. So don't blow this one off {It used to be Touch of Asia 2] The Old TOA is Now Dragons Den and Maintained by Very Ancient Asians.

I used to live in San Francisco Bay area and went to many Korean massage parlors there.

I am very impressed with the attitude of Korean massage providers to the business they are supposed to do: the more you donate, the harder they work on your desired services. I met many of them and 95% of them satisfied me. Some of them, I chatted with them extensive while they provided service to me. Almost most of them go to vacation in either LA or New York because those are two largest Korean town and they have lots of friends and relatives living there for them to rely on.

To my knowledge, most of them do CBJ and cfs after they know you are not a leo. Because only in that way, they can make living and send the fund back to Korea to their mothers, who are mostly single mother in Korea. Once a time, I met a Korean girl who is an accounting student in LA and wanted to make some extra to pay her tuition after the new semester start.

Once a time, I went back SF Bay and visit a korean massage parlor again and met this girl to complain there is no FS massage parlors in Orlando (I have not visited any korean massage parlor in orlando yet. I just read and heard too many bad news about limited services provided by Orlando Korean massage parlors). She told me that there are a few of Korean massage parlors provide FS in Tampa to her knowledge because she once worked in Tampa for a while.

Well, all being said, I am looking for a CBJ and cfs Korean massage parlors in Orlando or Tampa area now because the situation in OBT is getting worse and scary. I believe somebody must have got a good CBJ and cfs from Korean massage parlors in Orlando and just keep it secrete due to the tough challenge here.

Anyway, I will start to explore massage parlors if the situation in OBT gets worse. Senior members please post encouraging news from Massage parlors and share with us.

Somebody posted a lead in the below and no further follow up news about Dragon Den.

I would like to have a try of their service.

[QUOTE=Nine Willie]Visited both establishments and had pleasant experiences. Back walking at DD was really good but the HE at VIP was more spontaneous and reciprocal.

NW[/QUOTE]

Looks like Massage Connection reopened there OBT doors.

I wonder if its new owners.

[QUOTE=TopGun9181]Looks like Massage Connection reopened there OBT doors.

I wonder if its new owners.[/QUOTE]Nope... I went there thinking the same. But same management. They told me that they had a fire or something like that and they had to close until they completed the repairs. They also mentioned that they opened a new location in Semoran. I'm guessing that the new location might have new talents. Hopefully there’s another Maria.

Does anyone have any info on where Lilly who used to do the hot stone massages in what is now Star in Casselberry is now? She was so hot and gave one of the best massages ever. Will be visiting MCO soon and would really like to see her.

Any info would be appreciated.