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Just got back from the Bow and met with Kara. Not sure if she was new or not, I haven't seen her name on the boards yet. But I had the best time yet at the Bow. She is probably in her mid 30s with very long hair decent looking and surprisingly speaks good english which was a plus to me. Would definatly recommend. Since I'm new to AMP I don't have many to compare to as far as service but I plan on seeing her again next week. Would appreciate any input from more experienced members.
[QUOTE=Bootyluvr1]"...I had the best time yet at the Bow.... Since I'm new to AMP I don't have many to compare to as far as service...".[/QUOTE]Hey BL,
Can you give us a little more on this lil lady?
Looks, service, reciprocation, tip etc.
Thanks
I go to Perfect 10 infrequently but each time I go it's great for me. Extras are definitely on the menu and had gotten them from three different girls. Tips can get pricey but with the level of service I get I don't mind so much. I've never had anyone give me attitude there and one in particular is very nice to me. Women average around late 30's to 40's.
Went back today - had Nana - great TS; strong massage.
Had better but had worse. Left with a nice smile and relaxed.
As you have read before on my posts I am a fan of Rainbow. I pay the 80 get and hour massage with a nice ending and tip 20. So I am always at 100 per hour visit. I want to try Ambrosia but from the reports I have read I am unclear that I would leave Happily for. 8 +. 2. I say this because the tips people give the girls are 60-80ish. Am I missing something? I guess what I am asking is would 100 total get me an experiance that ends much like RB? I don't want to embarass myself by showing up at ambrosia with 5-$20s in my pocket.
Thanks
As I said she was decent looking very long hair which she used to her advantage especially at the end of session,was a good tease throughout and was very reciprical and open to me. Massage lasted an hour but I was there for about 1:15. Massage was good not the best (Ruby gives awesome Hard massage).Service was excellent after I was dressed and ready to go she stayed with me another 10 min or so. As far as tip I probably over did it at $40 according to these boards but as I said service was great and a nice tip usually gaurantees same or better next time. And as I mentioned last post she does speak good understandable english which made it easier to direct her to what felt good etc. and could actually have some conversation with her.She is only 3rd woman I've seen at there and have read alot about Monica but haven't seen her yet but could not imagine much better service unless Monica is much prettier but I hope to find that out soon.
Made it to the right place this time, asked for Monica, I woudl say the posts about her are correct. She is very attractive and gives a great rub along with nice mutual touching (funny thing though I started rubbing the kitty through her panties and she says "no like this" and pulls the front of her panties down so I could see the landing strip, I thought that was an invitation to play with the kitty but when I started rubbing it she quickly pulled away and put my hand on her breast, i didn't try "going inside" so not sure what happened.) I don't think any of the previous was exxagerating about her looks, she is smoking hot.
My only negative to report was when I tipped her, I have ready most guys seem to be giving .2, I had a great time so I tipped .4 and she kinda gave it "the look" when I handed it to her and finally mumbled "not bad i guess" (something along those lines that was as close as I could make out) She still seemed to have a decent attitude after I tipped, but like I said I heard many are tipping .2 so I did not expect her to get .4 and act like it was "ok but could have been better" small thing but did sort of turn me off. I will see her again, but next time might just take who ever they give me to see if Monica is that much better than the average girl there, and if they have the same attitude when tipped.
Like I said I guess I just didn't expect to be made to feel cheap when I thought I was tipping more than most, other than that her service was as described by others.
Lots of talk about how much to give at the local AMPs. I may be too generous, but here is my system, if you will:
1. Nice massage, no HE: .2
2. Nice massage, HE, no mutual touch: .4
3. Nice massage, HE, mutual touch under clothes with exposed skin: .6
4. Nice massage, "more happy" ending: .7-.8, depending
5. Nice massage, "happiest" ending: 1.0
6. Crappy massage with bad attitude: 0.0
[QUOTE=Smoky R Wood]Lots of talk about how much to give at the local AMPs. I may be too generous, but here is my system, if you will:
1. Nice massage, no HE: .2
2. Nice massage, HE, no mutual touch: .4
3. Nice massage, HE, mutual touch under clothes with exposed skin: .6
4. Nice massage, "more happy" ending: .7-.8, depending
5. Nice massage, "happiest" ending: 1.0
6. Crappy massage with bad attitude: 0.0[/QUOTE]
I tip $0 -$40. I have never had a problem. I will tip more than that ONLY if they go above and beyond. Not a lot do. Just my $0.02.
Now I've only been there once, but I think you would be happy spending .8+.2 there, you just wouldn't get to view any extra scenery. For .4 tip you'll see the mountains, for .8 tip you'll see the world. Again, I've only been once so I could be wrong, but from my experience it's worth giving it a shot.
[QUOTE=Fx Dude]As you have read before on my posts I am a fan of Rainbow. I pay the 80 get and hour massage with a nice ending and tip 20. So I am always at 100 per hour visit. I want to try Ambrosia but from the reports I have read I am unclear that I would leave Happily for. 8 +. 2. I say this because the tips people give the girls are 60-80ish. Am I missing something? I guess what I am asking is would 100 total get me an experiance that ends much like RB? I don't want to embarass myself by showing up at ambrosia with 5-$20s in my pocket.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Just an observation...Seems like the people who are Most Dissapointed with the way the way the Girls "React" to the Tips they shell out are the "generous tippers".
Went to A today and was turned away with "come back in an hour" after the "you been here before?" Guess you do better with an appointment if you're not a regular. Went to CTS and saw Lily (fyi: daytime hours for this gem). Shes pretty nice.
This concludes my report.
On another note, if you're going to A, $20 in your pocket will get you scolded and then laughed at. $40 will just get you scolded or scalded depending on how you look at it (neither will provide you with a good visit). It's high end for all you cheapskates out there, but definitely worth a visit. Plan accordingly. You get what you pay for.
On an entirely separate note. Rainbow is a value and a great place to visit. Somehow M has a cult following. I have never understood that other than she has been around a while and has regulars. She is very aware of these boards, my friends. If you ask her about it, she will tell you in clear English- DO NOT post her name here as I have done. She doesn't want the press even if it is good. .2 always has worked at RB and that's why I give .4, because they dont complain. Any time a MP complains about a tip my advice is to call them straight out on it. Sometimes it just causes a rift and other times it fixes the problem. Even better is to pull out a knot and tell them where you will take your business in the future. It's all a ruse people to get the benjamins from your wallet to their purses. Have we learned nothing about the services we solicit? These ladies make good money or they quit their jobs and move on. So a .2 tip for an hours work is high. If they dont like it leave a waffle house application on the table when you leave. Overtipping is one of the biggest reasons I see for disatisfied visits. One person does it and then they expect it.
An occasional big tip will get a particular person to remember you, but the Chinese have a memory that would rival Alex Trebek! so its unnecessary.
YMMV
RH
[QUOTE=Fx Dude]Just an observation...Seems like the people who are Most Dissapointed with the way the way the Girls "React" to the Tips they shell out are the "generous tippers".[/QUOTE]
I know, I was one of them !! I hope you guys aren't "throwing me under the bus" , by posting you you give 20-40 for the tips. I had tipped that way for a long time , so as not to rock the boat. But the few times I've left more for a girl, she acts like she's disappointed in the tip. I don't understand it, so I'll just go back to the 20-40 and have more money :)
This seems to be a pretty reasonable scale. What drives me absolutely nuts is when they try to get you to tip more for the same service you have always gotten.
I was at an AMP I have been visiting quite regularly for the last six months or so. I have been there maybe 14 times in six months and have seen the same two attendants. Yesterday I had one of them try to get me to tip more for the exact same thing we have been doing for the last 7 times. This was on the flip which is a real buzz kill. That kind of stuff just pisses me off to no end. I mean normally I am at $.6 for each session, so it's not like I am one of the .2 tippers.
I am one of those people that when I go to a restaurant and find a good dish. That is the only dish I get at that establishment. This was like walking into that restaurant and finding out that the dish I want just went up %30. It just makes me want to find another restaurant.
Who knows maybe it was an off day, but this was the same kind of crap that caused me to stop going to the other AMP I went to for about a year last year.
I know some of the providers read this board. My message to you is to never give your regular customer a reason to go look elsewhere.
Enough ranting for now.
KH
[QUOTE=Smoky R Wood]Lots of talk about how much to give at the local AMPs. I may be too generous, but here is my system, if you will:
1. Nice massage, no HE: .2
2. Nice massage, HE, no mutual touch: .4
3. Nice massage, HE, mutual touch under clothes with exposed skin: .6
4. Nice massage, "more happy" ending: .7-.8, depending
5. Nice massage, "happiest" ending: 1.0
6. Crappy massage with bad attitude: 0.0[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kheldar]This seems to be a pretty reasonable scale. What drives me absolutely nuts is when they try to get you to tip more for the same service you have always gotten.
I was at an AMP I have been visiting quite regularly for the last six months or so. I have been there maybe 14 times in six months and have seen the same two attendants. Yesterday I had one of them try to get me to tip more for the exact same thing we have been doing for the last 7 times. This was on the flip which is a real buzz kill. That kind of stuff just pisses me off to no end. I mean normally I am at $.6 for each session, so it's not like I am one of the .2 tippers.
I am one of those people that when I go to a restaurant and find a good dish. That is the only dish I get at that establishment. This was like walking into that restaurant and finding out that the dish I want just went up %30. It just makes me want to find another restaurant.
Who knows maybe it was an off day, but this was the same kind of crap that caused me to stop going to the other AMP I went to for about a year last year.
I know some of the providers read this board. My message to you is to never give your regular customer a reason to go look elsewhere.
Enough ranting for now.
KH[/QUOTE]
I think the "girls" working in these AMP's just dont think things out. To me it seems like they get a regular tip and they figure the guy that gave it to them wont give more so they dont push it, but if they see a guy tip more than the norm, they try to squeeze him for even more instead of just being happy with the extra he gave in the first place.
I've almost always tipped. 4 at Rainbow, Lily's, Galaxy, Hannas, Woodlawn and every other place in Charlotte that I have visited, regardless of whether it was a 1/2 hour session or an hour session. Honestly,. 4 is probably too high for a 1/2 hour session (probably should be tipping. 2 or. 3), but. 4 seems about right for an hour session. I don't really go anywhere but Rainbow now, but I've been going there for almost 3 years now and always tipping the same. I'm sure most of the girls would notice if I suddenly changed the amount I tip now.
I did tip Suzie. 5 for an hour long session recently, and she seemed very appreciative of the little extra. I think there is some truth to the proposition that many girls will try to get more money from a guy who appears to be a mark (isn't that the case in pretty much all hobbying?), but it makes little sense to act that way with a regular, long-time customer at an AMP.
The first time a girl acts unappreciative for my regular tip (or especially the regular plus a little extra) or tries to wheedle more money out of me would likely be the last time I visit that establishment. Also, I would probably tell the girl and/or the MMS why I would not be returning in the future. I think people in service industries often need to hear, explicitly, why someone is taking some action or why someone is pleased or displeased for it to sink in and affect their behavior. I'm a really nice guy, I'm not a confrontational person and I'm probably a bit too generous with a lot of women under many circumstances, but I'm not a fool or a rube. I know when someone is trying to play me, and I do not appreciate it.
This has been a much needed discusion on tipping. Some of you guys have clearly tipped your way into a corner. I get the same EXACT service (maybe more) as you with a $20 Tip. And you are paying $40-$60. Some here would call me cheap. I think I'm smart. The premise is that they have given you extra service that warants heavy tipping. I look at it totally differntly. I can get a great Regular massage anywhere for 50-60. We go to an AMP and pay 30 more than that right up front because we are getting a little extra. On top of that we feel the obligation to tip and that is fine but do the math people. Some of you are paying 120-140 for a massage and a little tug? The girls probably get a great laugh at your expence after you've walked out. Grow some rocks gentleman. Your getting hosed and you're happy to share the info with us. It's like paying way to much for car and telling everyone you got suckered. Who does that?
[QUOTE=Fx Dude]This has been a much needed discusion on tipping. Some of you guys have clearly tipped your way into a corner. I get the same EXACT service (maybe more) as you with a $20 Tip. And you are paying $40-$60. Some here would call me cheap. I think I'm smart. The premise is that they have given you extra service that warants heavy tipping. I look at it totally differntly. I can get a great Regular massage anywhere for 50-60. We go to an AMP and pay 30 more than that right up front because we are getting a little extra. On top of that we feel the obligation to tip and that is fine but do the math people. Some of you are paying 120-140 for a massage and a little tug? The girls probably get a great laugh at your expence after you've walked out. Grow some rocks gentleman. Your getting hosed and you're happy to share the info with us. It's like paying way to much for car and telling everyone you got suckered. Who does that?[/QUOTE]I've been mongering for a lot of years, in a lot of places, in a lot of different venues (other than street girls). I know, and have known, a few providers fairly well, on a basis that goes beyond purely business. I've had many discussions about pricing and services, some of which were funny, some of which were rather disturbing and all of which were interesting. I think I have a pretty good grasp of the psychology of providers as it relates to pricing and services. There are often differences in the level and quality of services that one receives based on a whole host of factors, price paid being just one of those factors.
The truth is, none of us knows exactly what happens in someone else's session in most any venue. You may think you are getting exactly the same service as everyone else who pays a specific amount, and you might be correct. However, you might be getting shortchanged in some way. Or, you really might be getting an even better deal than you realize. These things are simply impossible to know. Providers have told me that they provide services to me that they do not provide to others at the price I pay. (Here, I am not referring specifically to Rainbow.) Are they lying to me? Maybe. How am I ever going to know the truth?
Although I have not been posting on this board for very long, I've been reading this board for many years. I believe these discussions generally tend to do two things: (1) provide some good, useful information as to what other people are paying and tipping; and (2) veer off into name-calling and insults, which ultimately just generates a lot of ill will and makes everyone feel bad. I think we have had a few good informational posts, and I would respectfully suggest that it's probably best to leave it at that.
[QUOTE=Fx Dude]This has been a much needed discusion on tipping. Some of you guys have clearly tipped your way into a corner. I get the same EXACT service (maybe more) as you with a $20 Tip. And you are paying $40-$60. Some here would call me cheap. I think I'm smart. The premise is that they have given you extra service that warants heavy tipping. I look at it totally differntly. I can get a great Regular massage anywhere for 50-60. We go to an AMP and pay 30 more than that right up front because we are getting a little extra. On top of that we feel the obligation to tip and that is fine but do the math people. Some of you are paying 120-140 for a massage and a little tug? The girls probably get a great laugh at your expence after you've walked out. Grow some rocks gentleman. Your getting hosed and you're happy to share the info with us. It's like paying way to much for car and telling everyone you got suckered. Who does that?[/QUOTE]
For a newbie , he makes alot of sense !! He just might be on to something !
I view tipping as a means to an end.I begin with the premise of respect for these fine korean caregivers, and I find generous (40 to 60) tipping gets me to fs more quickly. Two or three visits and usually I'm home free.If its plainly not in the cards I move on. All depends on your goal. Let's not generalize, shall we? I don't want to skew the market tho so that's why I move on if the menu is obviously limited, but in my experience 90 per cent of these fair ladies are fully capable of fs.
[QUOTE=Wando21]I view tipping as a means to an end. I begin with the premise of respect for these fine korean caregivers, and I find generous (40 to 60) tipping gets me to fs more quickly. Two or three visits and usually I'm home free.If its plainly not in the cards I move on. All depends on your goal. Let's not generalize, shall we? I don't want to skew the market tho so that's why I move on if the menu is obviously limited, but in my experience 90 per cent of these fair ladies are fully capable of fs.[/QUOTE]
I am sure that your $40-$60 tip buys their goodwill. And, I have no doubt, often results in more options being placed onto the bargaining table. But you must know that a lot of amp workers have been spoiled and have gotten to the point of expecting it. Many think that most men are foolish with their money and part with it easily. Often they want you to think there will be more next time (whether there will be or not). Even if you are leaving disappointed and they know you are disappointed, they will try to make you believe there will be more next time.
I have no problem imagining that if they regularly get a $60 tip for a hj, then the same $60 tip isn't going to cut it once they provide you with FS. Most spa workers are so afraid that your tip won't be big enough for FS that they often negotiate the fee upfront (which, by the way, is how most of them get into trouble with LE).
Grubbing for money is how most females operate. Obtaining money is how most achieve orgasm. Money is almost always the basis for dating and marriage. Money and more money is usually the basis for FS either for the moment or in a long term relation.
I am not a big spender and I stay clear of those places where there is too much talk about money and too great an expectation. It would be my luck that the joint would be busted while I was visiting.
I like the places that give you complimentary HE's and are grateful for a $20 tip on top of their higher than normal door fee.
I really don't see where respect is a consideration. I don't tip my doctor or auto mechanic even though I respect both of them. Leaving someone a fair tip is not a sign of no respect. Walking out the door having left no tip sends them a message. Even then, it is still not a sign of no respect.
Them scolding you for leaving less than a huge tip is very much DISRESPECTFUL.
[QUOTE=Mr Monger]I am sure that your $40-$60 tip buys their goodwill. And, I have no doubt, often results in more options being placed onto the bargaining table. But you must know that a lot of amp workers have been spoiled and have gotten to the point of expecting it. Many think that most men are foolish with their money and part with it easily. Often they want you to think there will be more next time (whether there will be or not). Even if you are leaving disappointed and they know you are disappointed, they will try to make you believe there will be more next time.
I have no problem imagining that if they regularly get a $60 tip for a hj, then the same $60 tip isn't going to cut it once they provide you with FS. Most spa workers are so afraid that your tip won't be big enough for FS that they often negotiate the fee upfront (which, by the way, is how most of them get into trouble with LE).
Grubbing for money is how most females operate. Obtaining money is how most achieve orgasm. Money is almost always the basis for dating and marriage. Money and more money is usually the basis for FS either for the moment or in a long term relation.
I am not a big spender and I stay clear of those places where there is too much talk about money and too great an expectation. It would be my luck that the joint would be busted while I was visiting.
I like the places that give you complimentary HE's and are grateful for a $20 tip on top of their higher than normal door fee.
I really don't see where respect is a consideration. I don't tip my doctor or auto mechanic even though I respect both of them. Leaving someone a fair tip is not a sign of no respect. Walking out the door having left no tip sends them a message. Even then, it is still not a sign of no respect.
Them scolding you for leaving less than a huge tip is very much DISRESPECTFUL.[/QUOTE]
Have to dissagree with parts of this, mainly the thing about tipping your doctor or auto mechanic, thats a lame comparison. Do you tip a delivery person? do you tip a waitress who serves you? or a bartender? or the person who cuts your hair? the girls work in a tip oriented business, the door fee is not charged by the girl servicing you and she is lucky if she even gets half of it. Now that being said I am still against overtipping as the girl does get part of the door fee, and a 20 dollar tip even if she does not get ANY part of the door fee is still 20 dollars for an hours work, probably more than most guys using their services make. But yes if extras are negotiated thats one thing, but for a straight massage with HE I see no reason to tip more than .2, maybe if she is cute and shows you a little then .4 anything over that is just screwing up the market for the rest of us.
The most I ever tip a girl here is $40 and that has been the girls at Rainbow and Bebe at Spa74.
I'm sorry but I'm originally from New York where a HE is a given and part of the service. Plus you had about 300 AMPs to choose from. The all charged about 60/half and 80/hr but you could work out less.
The amount these places expect here is crazy considering the location.
I refuse to give more than 20 unless the service is exceptional or I am a regular with someone like Monica.
And that brings me to Monica. I have prasied her to the heavens on this board and I am guilty of Monica haigography as well.
But let me state, the praise that is heaped on Monica is in very little way a reflection of her "hottness" or skill.
The praise heaped on Monica is a reflection of the dearth of decent AMPs in CLT.
In NYC a Monica is the avg or even sub par in some places.
I wish CLT had better and more AMPs. Esp. If like me you don't even consider Woodlawn, Midori, SUperrelax, perfect10 due to the crappy times I've had there.
That leaves you with about 3-4 to choose from.
Sigh.
Apologies for the the rant.
[QUOTE=ConcordGuy]Have to dissagree with parts of this, mainly the thing about tipping your doctor or auto mechanic, thats a lame comparison. Do you tip a delivery person? do you tip a waitress who serves you? or a bartender? or the person who cuts your hair? the girls work in a tip oriented business, the door fee is not charged by the girl servicing you and she is lucky if she even gets half of it. Now that being said I am still against overtipping as the girl does get part of the door fee, and a 20 dollar tip even if she does not get ANY part of the door fee is still 20 dollars for an hours work, probably more than most guys using their services make. But yes if extras are negotiated thats one thing, but for a straight massage with HE I see no reason to tip more than .2, maybe if she is cute and shows you a little then .4 anything over that is just screwing up the market for the rest of us.[/QUOTE]
I was just saying that giving someone a tip is not because you respect them or not. I used doctors and auto mechanics as an example of people I respect and I normally don't tip their services. I do understand that tips increase the provider's earnings and is also a way to show appreciation for their efforts and service. People working in the service sector often rely on tips so that their earnings are not bare minimum.
I am sure that amp workers get very little of the door fee and that they depend on tips very much so. I agree with you.
Just for information. The standard split on the asian amp door fee:
Girl get $10 on the $60 1/2 hr & $20 on the $80 hr.
[QUOTE=Tryon]Just for information. The standard split on the asian AMP door fee:
Girl get $10 on the $60 1/2 hr & $20 on the $80 hr.[/QUOTE]It's not like we are using a proportionate scale as is applied in most service industries which is typically 15% of the cost of the product or service. Nor do you consider the minimum wage your waitress at Denny's is earning when it comes time to tip her. What a massuse get's from the door fee is not our business. If we considerd scale, we'd be leaving $9 to $15 based on 60 and 80. If we are being asked to consider thier end of the door fee, what standard of living are you attempting to fund for them? Where are the limits? This makes no sense.
So we are left to our own devices. In this case we are arbitrarily tipping based on the effort and quality of the services. Imagine if no HE was provided. Would you not tip at all? I for one have always tipped my massuse in a legit place and it has always been based on 15% of the cost at the door.
So I consider only the effort and quality when I go to RB and Lilly's and Spa74 etc. Regardless of the amount of time I bought, because the amount of time spent on the HE is almost always the same either way. A standard HE like I get at Lillys with a decent massage deserves no more than a single Jackson. Even Suzie only gets 1 Jackson from me because she has always demonstrated early to achieve limits after the flip. But Monica has generous and demonstrated a more libral approach. Albeit I will not submit her name for cannonization as others here would, I do leave her with 2 Jacksons and she is always happy with me.
Lastly, I don't think that this discussion has any influence on the market rates in CLT and definitely will not change a thing in that regard. But I hope it gives us all some food for thought.
Just my. 02
Just got back from a trip to the Rainbow and had a terrible experience! First off I have been there 4 times in the past and always had a great experience however tonight was terrible! My provider was a cute spinner with long black hair but she wouldn't tell me her name said to call her Chocloate. I asked for Monica or Kara but she sais they weren't there. I should have realized it was not going to be a good experience when during the T/S she refused to wash betweeen my legs. The massage was good but she kept asking me questions during it, maybe she thought I was LE. After she finished massaging my back she started giving me light strokes and I thought she was going to ask me to turn over, but she said you can use your own hand. I told her I could do that at home, but she said she wasnt allowed to touch my privates. I told her I wasn't going to leave her a tip then, she started to argue with me so I got pissed and got up and left. Don't know whats going on there but I won't go back again!
I appreciate the different points of view. Don't think the variations discussed will skew the market but must add that amps are not like restaurents or barbershops, tho at CT spa you can get a massage etc on the right and a haircut on the left. Please remember guys this is your recreational dollar. Rather give it to the wife?
[QUOTE=Wando21]I appreciate the different points of view. Don't think the variations discussed will skew the market but must add that amps are not like restaurents or barbershops, tho at CT spa you can get a massage etc on the right and a haircut on the left. Please remember guys this is your recreational dollar. Rather give it to the wife?[/QUOTE]
I already give too much to the wife with nothing to show for it. That is probably true for most of us!
The answer to your question is the same as the answer to my question.
[QUOTE=Hondo17]Just got back from a trip to the Rainbow and had a terrible experience! First off I have been there 4 times in the past and always had a great experience however tonight was terrible! My provider was a cute spinner with long black hair but she wouldn't tell me her name said to call her Chocloate. I asked for Monica or Kara but she sais they weren't there. I should have realized it was not going to be a good experience when during the T/S she refused to wash betweeen my legs. The massage was good but she kept asking me questions during it, maybe she thought I was LE. After she finished massaging my back she started giving me light strokes and I thought she was going to ask me to turn over, but she said you can use your own hand. I told her I could do that at home, but she said she wasnt allowed to touch my privates. I told her I wasn't going to leave her a tip then, she started to argue with me so I got pissed and got up and left. Don't know whats going on there but I won't go back again![/QUOTE]
My advice is to let them know immediately if you've had sub par service. They actually care and want you to come back unlike the minor leaguers at Woodlawn and Midori.
There was a spa I use to frequent in Atlanta. My attendant pretty much ignored me. Left me alone for nearly twenty minutes after the TS. I was spitting nails. I talked to the girl running the place, Sunny. We'd known each other at another spa. Told her I was gonna leave. Sunny took over and salvaged the visit. Never saw the girl who ignored me again.
Another time I had a so so visit with a new girl. On my next visit, I had a her again. Wanted to switch out and the mamasan talked to the girl and straightened things out. Turned out to be one of the best sessions I ever had at the place.
Also, I find it helps to call ahead and ask for your favorite girl before showing up. If you don't call, your favorite might be busy, you can still salvage your visit by asking to see her. She can vouch for you with the new girl. That keeps you from having to wash your privates during the TS. Hope this helps guys.
Thanks Sgt I would have but I never did see the mamsan it was just my attendant and I think one other younger girl. I definitely told my attendant I was not pleased but that didn't change her attitude even when I told her I was giving her a tip.
[QUOTE=Sgt Steel]My advice is to let them know immediately if you've had sub par service. They actually care and want you to come back unlike the minor leaguers at Woodlawn and Midori.
There was a spa I use to frequent in Atlanta. My attendant pretty much ignored me. Left me alone for nearly twenty minutes after the TS. I was spitting nails. I talked to the girl running the place, Sunny. We'd known each other at another spa. Told her I was going to leave. Sunny took over and salvaged the visit. Never saw the girl who ignored me again.
Another time I had a so so visit with a new girl. On my next visit, I had a her again. Wanted to switch out and the mamasan talked to the girl and straightened things out. Turned out to be one of the best sessions I ever had at the place.
Also, I find it helps to call ahead and ask for your favorite girl before showing up. If you don't call, your favorite might be busy, you can still salvage your visit by asking to see her. She can vouch for you with the new girl. That keeps you from having to wash your privates during the TS. Hope this helps guys.[/QUOTE]
Heads up.
Thank you and goodnite
[QUOTE=Hondo17]Thanks Sgt I would have but I never did see the mamsan it was just my attendant and I think one other younger girl. I definitely told my attendant I was not pleased but that didn't change her attitude even when I told her I was giving her a tip.[/QUOTE]
Visited Rainbow after work on Saturday night. Had an hour and fifteen minutes with Susie. She left several times during my time to answer the door, apologizing each time. Found out that Monica and Kara were on vacation. I'd called last week and heard the same about Ruby. Only Susie and Sunny were working when I was there. With them being short staffed (no pun intended), You might have got a substitute from another spa. She might have been suspicious. I know they brought in Mink to help out a couple months back when Monica and Susie were both on vacation. Hopefully things well get back to normal once the other girls get back.
Normally, when a spa girl is said to be "on bacation", it means she is gone. They tell you that to keep you coming back. They know that you will continue to do so, in the hopes that your atf provider will show up again. In the meantime, you'll eventually find another one you like.
These people are nothing if not superb business people.
LexLuther
[QUOTE=LexLuther]Normally, when a spa girl is said to be "on bacation", it means she is gone. They tell you that to keep you coming back. They know that you will continue to do so, in the hopes that your atf provider will show up again. In the meantime, you'll eventually find another one you like.
These people are nothing if not superb business people.
LexLuther[/QUOTE]Depends on the girl/place.
FOr Monica @Bow she IS actually on vacation up in Viriginia.
Come back on Thursday and see.
Visited with one of my new atf's and heard that a fellow monger told her her name appeared on the internet here. Now fellas this helps no one. She's pissed and wary. When we make reports here we do not expect some dumb monger to blab it to the provider. Unless you want all info to pass solely by pm among senior members, can the chit chat about this forum to providers. If they happen to be computer literate so be it but that is rare
[QUOTE=Sam Weller]Depends on the girl/place.
FOr Monica @Bow she IS actually on vacation up in Viriginia.
Come back on Thursday and see.[/QUOTE]
I completely agree. I've been going to these places for over twenty years. Rainbow breaks the mould. A couple of months back, both Monica and Susie were on vacation and I saw Mink who used to work there. She told me the day when each was returning.
When I used to live in Atlanta, the "bacation" was epidemic. You'd have a great session with a girl, come back the next time and to paraphrase Dean Wormer in Animal House, she'd be outta there like shit through a goose!
I am well aware of the old bait and switch most of these places operate on. In Atlanta and Philly they were FS and they always had new talent coming in and the good outweighed the bad.
[QUOTE=Wando21]Visited with one of my new atf's and heard that a fellow monger told her her name appeared on the internet here. Now fellas this helps no one. She's pissed and wary. When we make reports here we do not expect some dumb monger to blab it to the provider. Unless you want all info to pass solely by pm among senior members, can the chit chat about this forum to providers. If they happen to be computer literate so be it but that is rare[/QUOTE]
I agree, I dont think they all get mad but better safe than sorry, many of these girls automatically think once they are on the internet they will not only be targets for new clients but for Uncle Leo as well. But Monica for example I dont think she minds cause the first time I saw her I said she had been recommended by "my coworker Tony" but she kept asking me "you sure you didn't see me on internet" but not like it was a bad thing, (she even asked well after she had "crossed the line" so to speak) I think she just knows she is getting good pub from here and doesn't seem to mind. HOWEVER like I said not all girls feel this way (I would bet most do not) So telling them you saw them on the internet rally cant do any good and has the potential to screw up not only your visit but the guys that come after you as well.
[QUOTE=ConcordGuy]. I think she just knows she is getting good pub from here and doesn't seem to mind. HOWEVER like I said not all girls feel this way (I would bet most do not) So telling them you saw them on the internet rally can't do any good and has the potential to screw up not only your visit but the guys that come after you as well.[/QUOTE]I would venture to guess that they don't mind the notoriety until they get hauled in for the first time. Then they probably get a lot more cautious and defensive about who is talking about them and where. Take MMS at Lilly's for example. First thing she asks you on your first visit, "How you know about this place? " Heck., she advertises in the Sunday Observer for cryin out loud! But she doesn't like people talking.
Does anyone know a good spot to get some extra beyond just a rub and tug? Maybe some playing (inside the kitty area) and a BJ? Fully nude massage. Mutual?
I've been to Spa 74 twice now to see Amy. She is a little bit older (40's?), but has a smoking body. Both times she has been very nice, good service, never complains about money. I walked into the massage room where you get undressed completley, Amy came back with a towel to wrap around myself. First you sit in the suana for awhile, then you head to the T/S which is very nice. She washed my body with this washcloth like "glove" and on the flip she looked at me asking if I wanted my johnson washed, I nodded yes. After the relaxing wash she dried me off good and gave me a little tug with the towel. I sat in the dry steam room for a bit then she came and brought me to the massage room. The massage was very nice. On the flip she paid attention to my special area. She let me play around her kitty area, but definitely not in. Additionally she was willing to lift up her shirt for me to see and fondler her very nice breasts (I would say B/C cup) very nicely shaped. Happy ending was excellent, but had hoped for a little more. All in all solid experience. I would go back.