Strip Club Reports

I headed over to Wise Guys (no cover, even though a sign said $7) and grabbed a bucket. I was immediately disappointed and I wasn't sure I'd stay for all 4 beers. At first glance it looked like the place was hopping, but I realized quickly that a lot of the guys there were staff, and there were maybe 8 girls. They had two stages going, but dropped back to one stage soon, and by midnight the place was nearly empty of guys. Luckily, I met Champagne.

She's another girl who has been around, and we knew a LOT of the same people (this is not the red headed Champagne who works at MKs). She was a blast to talk to. She is 26 and been dancing for 8 years. I had a great time talking with her, and we had some real fun in the private area.- not the VIP, but pretty good service. I'll go back to see her tonight, I'm sure (if I don't hook up with Elena, or my other girl. Options! )

I was at WG from about 11:30-1:00. Sat at the bar with Star. Did have one private dance in the back, not the VIP. She wanted $200 for that. I gave her $40 and bought her two beers.

So Saturday was day 2 of my Martin Luther King Day/Obama Day holiday and I got started at Miss Kitty's at about 3pm. I was hoping to see Elena again, but she wasn't there, and she didn't return a text. Someone said she may be at City Nights, but it wasn't that big a deal and I didn't want to head over there since I knew Catrina would be there. Besides, Bailey was back at MKs and I wanted to talk with her.

First I had to get past Faith. She had no recollection of the day before, didn't remember getting into it with Catrina or that I was even there. I put her off, but she'll come back to haunt me later. There were about 10 girls there, and a ton of guys -- other clubs in the area were dead, but MKs always seems to be jumping. Of course the girls always complain that it is never busy. Holly and Vikky were there, as was Sheah and a girl I didn't know named Molly. Angelina was working, but I didn't get a dance from her until almost the end of her shift. She seemed to be in a bad mood, which seems to be normal for her. Also there was Candy, a tall thin brunette with a face full of piercings -- not my usual type, except for her phenomenal tits. Small but perfectly formed and really firm.

Anyway, I started with Bailey, who is as cute as a button. She is a small, pixie-ish girl with her hair in a short ponytail (I love ponytails). She said she is half Mexican and half Cherokee, and she looks it. A combination of girl next door and exotic beauty. As I mentioned yesterday, she has been dancing only a week. Her friend Candy got her into it and she is clearly really new. She loves to dance and is one of the only girls who will actually dance on the stage rather than just swaying back and forth. She has no clue how to chat up guys, though, and I had to really work to keep the conversation going. She is cute enough that she probably won't have to worry about that, though, as guys kept taking her to the private area all afternoon.
I didn't even get to try her out -- I told her I wanted a private after her next set, but then some other guy took her right from the stage to the back room. When she came out another guy got her. After being cockblocked twice, I wasn't gonna wait around for her. Someone else can tell me how she is. Maybe I'll come back for her.

I got a stage dance from Candy, Bailey's friend, and she hit me up for a private. She said "$60 no time limit," and that I could get a BJ if I wanted. I was intrigued, but didn't commit -- she isn't exactly my type. After her set she sat with a couple of guys at the bar, one of whom had been pretty rowdy. He was looking for a fight, or at least to show off. I was at the bar myself and Faith came up and started rubbing on me. Before I knew it she had said something to Candy, and then to the guys Candy was with, and then the rowdy guy was calling on me to "control my woman". Great, I'm gonna get killed because of Faith! Anyway, Humphrey stepped in and everything calmed down. The other guy actually was kind of cool about it all -- he was actually still there when I returned for the night shift and we talked a bit.

I eventually took Candy to the back room, and that's when i made a rookie mistake that I haven't made in years. I paid her in advance for my dance, and she saw my wallet. Mistake! After handing her $60, she asked for another $20. I said no, and maybe after the dance. She said OK and started her dance, but after a minute said she had to pee and could we just call it done? Then she offered to come to my hotel room after her shift and credit me the $60 off an hour with her. Well at that point, I knew I wasn't gonna get a good dance, so I took her number and decided to see where it went. She told me she lived by Lambert Field in Missouri and needed to go home, so I didn't believe she'd drive home, then all the way back to Collinsville for $100, but she assured me she would. I figured I was out $60. Dumb...

I did leave MKs for about an hour among all these events, just to see what else was happening in WP. C-Mowes' lot was nearly empty, so I passed it by. Cheeks was almost empty but for a few motorcycles in the lot, and when I popped my head in there were three other customers, all bikers in leather, and maybe five girls working. I didn't stay, but headed across the street to Wise Guys. There were two guys there, and 4-5 girls. I had a beer at the bar and they didn't even have anyone dancing. Two girls were sitting at a table with crayons and coloring books. Harley was there, but didn't seem that enthused. Everyone was just bored. I have no idea why they would open up an identical club across the street. They are just competing with themselves. I could understand if they were shooting for a different demographic (upscale at one and neighborhood bar at the other, for example) but the clubs are nearly identical. And I was told again that they plan to break ground on another club in the empty lot near Hollywood Club. That will make like 20 strip clubs in the area. Saturation! I finished my beer and went back to MKs.

As the day shift was ending, I headed out to get some food. Chelsea was coming in as I was leaving and I told her I'd be back. At dinner I was flipping through the local stripper advertising "magazine" and I saw that Kitty's is now advertising a "Swingers Night" on Saturday nights. That sounded interesting, but odd. Anyway, this is where even having lots of options still didn't really pay off. My regular girl was busy and Elena didn't work today and didn't return my text, so I thought about Candy. At about 9:00 I called her and she wasn't even home yet. She told me that she still wanted to see me, and that she'd come back to Collinsville around 11:00 and she'd "call me". Never heard back from her. Yeah, ok so that was a bust. I knew Champagne was working at Wise Guys, so that was a sure thing, but it sucks needing 4 layers of backup plans just to deal with flaky strippers!

I went back to Miss Kitty's around 10:00 and met up with Chelsea who bitched at me for not bringing her food, even though she didn't ask me to -- it was all in fun, she just looks for a reason to give guys shit. There were 18 girls working and just like Friday the place was jumping. Ladonna was there, but I barely recognized her as she was wearing an ugly, cheap blonde wig. She is such a beautiful girl, but honestly that wig was not good. Some other girls there were Whisper, Taylor, Unique (used to be Eva), Kaitlyn, and Diamond. Chelsea was fun to hang out with, but I stepped out at about 1:00 to head over to Wise Guys.

Hooked up with Champagne as soon as I got there. Went to the VIP room where we got naked and did stuff to each other. $50 for the room and $100 to her and got fully taken care of -- we went well over the 15 minute time limit. She also offered to come to my hotel on Sunday for more fun... we'll see. FYI guys, DO NOT sit on the cloth chairs in the VIP room unless you put down a tarp or something. Trust me on this.

Back to MKs around 2:00 to finish out the night. By the way, "Swingers Night" was a joke. The club had the back section (behind the roll-up doors) roped off as an exclusive area for swingers, but no one was back there. Over the whole night maybe four couples came in, and they just sat in the main area. There was no "swinging". Chelsea also said that MK is trying to set up a "VIP" private area like Wise Guys has. Supposedly $70 for 30 minutes, plus tip to the girl. I don't know if they will pull it off, but it could be fun.

At 3:30 they made last call and I gave Chelsea a final dance and headed out. She is really fun to hang out with, even though she doesn't do anything extra at all. Her attitude and comments are what makes the night fun, especially when she is dishing on the other dancers. At one point she was sitting in my lap and I was rubbing her back when the lot security guy came up and started talking with her. He said he had just finished watching a movie in her truck, and he was going to borrow another for later. After he left I commented on how nice it was that she she let him just go in her truck and borrow movies and even sit in there and watch them on her tv. She said "Well, he's my dad." Doh! Glad I didn't know that while she was grinding on my crotch and I was rubbing her. I might have been uncomfortable!

Anyway, I had a good time sitting with her, even though I can NOT afford to be her regular. She asks for $40 a dance usually, and she doesn't do anything extra in the back room. Heck, her stage dances are essentially the same as her privates, but at 1/10 the price (I usually tip the dancers $4-5 if I get the whole song). It's worth it just to hang with her in between dances though.

So, got back to the hotel around 4:00 and slept late. We'll see if Champagne wants to make some money this afternoon, and then i'll head back to MKs to see if Candy is there. That should be fun. Stay tuned for my next report.

[quote=KC Questor]And I was told again that they plan to break ground on another club in the empty lot near Hollywood Club. That will make like 20 strip clubs in the area. Saturation![/quote]

Great report KC. Sounds like you had lots of fun.

I'm glad to hear another club is opening, but too bad it's not opening up in Sauget, to break the Denver-based VCG company's monopoly in Sauget, and their $40 lap dance pricing there. For those who don't know, VCG is a large national company that has bought up dozens of clubs throughout the USA, including the only 2 strip clubs in Sauget (PT's Sauget and Penthouse). The VCG company also owns PT's Brooklyn and Roxy's in Brooklyn, and they own PT's in Centreville.

I'd love to see someone open up a strip club in that warehouse that's right next to the VCG-owned Penthouse Club. - Rosco

Well, apparently there is a white knight out there who doesn't like the detail in my reports and thinks I am disrespecting girls here. If I give that impression I apologize wholeheartedly. I like to think that I am being honest, and that I give respect to any girl who deserves it. I love many of the dancers that I have met in St. Louis -- that's why I keep coming back. But I do have to be honest about the girls who rip guys off, or who promise fun and don't deliver, or who get drunk and fight. And I believe that honest reports help the girls, too. I mean, Harley got a LOT of business based on guys talking her up here. When I say good things about a girl, that means other guys who read the report might go visit her.

Someone commented to me that I was disrespectful because I promised to meet multiple girls on the same night, and that I was treating them like a "stable". The only reason that I plan to meet different girls is because so many of them have to change their plans or even cancel at the last minute. Saturday I had plans with three different girls -- but those plans were just them asking me to "come by Miss Kitty's and see me", and two of them didn't show up for work. I had a date (a real date, not a pay date) for Saturday night cancel and a dancer I was gonna take out called and said she was sick. In the end I didn't have any date at all on Saturday and ended up just hanging out at the clubs again. Many of these girls plan their lives day-to-day and I can't blame them for being a bit flaky. I shouldn't be blamed for making alternate plans. I never expect the girls to be faithful to me -- even when I am in the club with them, I encourage them to get other dances. I don't know why I should be forced to be "faithful" to a girl who stands me up.

Anyway, I'll apologize again if I seemed insensitive in my prior reports. I'll post later about my Sunday.

Thanks for the detail, I appreciate the blow by blow discourse. You are a wonderful writer as well.

Interesting, KC Questor: I'm from near KC and I made an ESL trip this weekend. I got to Miss Kitty's around 4 pm Saturday. Of the names you mention, the one that rings a bell is Faith. Does her description include: pregnant? Anyway, this dancer latched onto me while I was waiting to pay the cover and took me for privates. It took a long series of songs to meet the objective, with lots of talking dirty and kissing on the lips. She then said that after she freshened up, she'd give me her phone number. I sat stageside through one dancer's set, finished my beer, and left without her having come out; I'm uneasy with how to go about with takeout, just there for one night and without much more to spend; also the pregnancy wouldn't be a turn-on.

I make regular visits to the area and a day stop at MK is usual for me. I've never ventured north of Bunkum; on this trip I was ready to try Wise Guys until I saw the recent negatives here. At night, I went to Hollywood as usual for better-looking dancers and bed dances that were nice, but not with the mileage of the nastier places.

[QUOTE=Dune 975]Interesting, KC Questor: I'm from near KC and I made an ESL trip this weekend. I got to Miss Kitty's around 4 pm Saturday. Of the names you mention, the one that rings a bell is Faith. Does her description include: pregnant? ... I'm uneasy with how to go about with takeout, just there for one night and without much more to spend; also the pregnancy wouldn't be a turn-on.
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I'm not sure if you are asking or telling here. I don't *think* Faith is pregnant. She is just heavy across the middle. I actually like that about her. It's funny, as much trouble as she gets in every time I see her, I still kind of enjoy her. She is so enthusiastic about everything -- some things too much.

Anyway, if you are saying that she IS pregnant, that's a surprise to me. If you are asking, I would have said no.

There is another dancer at MKs who announced she was pregnant, so maybe that's who you were thinking of. But she wasn't at MKs on Saturday so I don't think that could be it.

I'm leaving for home today and don't have time to write a full report just now (and I'm still thinking about last night's post). But I will mention that Sunday was very different at MK. I was there the whole day, except for an hour or so for dinner, and it was nothing like a usual Sunday or the other weekend days. I'll fill you guys in on that later. Girls working were:

Paige
Elena
Climax
Trina
Deja
Teddy
Candy (different Candy from Saturday)
Mystical was waitressing and Chrissy bartending

[QUOTE=KC Questor]Anyway, I'll apologize again if I seemed insensitive in my prior reports. I'll post later about my Sunday.[/QUOTE]I've read all of your posts. As it pertains to the dancers we both know you if anything you've gone easy on them.

OK, so a quick summary of Sunday:

MK only has one shift on Sundays: 4-12. At 4:15 I get a call asking if I was going to be there. Kind of nice to be wanted. I arrived around 5:00 to find the place was pretty busy. There were only seven girls working but there were about 15 guys. I said hello to Trina (one of my favorites) and recognized Elena from Friday, but I didn't know any of the other dancers at all.

I told Elena that I missed seeing her at MKs on Saturday and she told me she hadn't been feeling well. We chatted a bit throughout the night. She is a really nice girl and I wish it hadn't been so busy so I could have spent more time with her. I had been planning to ask her for her number on Saturday, with the hopes of meeting her for dinner or drinks sometime, but the lateness of Sunday's shift made that unlikely.

Of course I also spent time with Trina, who is awesome. She's a bit older than some of the other dancers, but she has a great body and a wonderful smile. Unfortunately, there were so many customers all day on Sunday that I just couldn't get enough of her time.

Around 6:00 or so, a group of couples came in and all sat at the stage. The stages were packed and the dancers didn't have more than a minute or so for each customer before needing to move on. The female guests were very attentive to the girls and everyone was having fun, but this is not the typical atmosphere of Miss Kitty's and it wasn't a lot of fun for the guys there. If I wanted to be part of a crowd at the stage I'd go to PTs Centreville. Luckily there was football and when the last game ended at 9:30 or so, the place did start to empty out.

Other than an hour to get some food for myself and a few of the dancers, I was there all day, almost 7 hours. I only got a couple of privates, but it was a nice relaxing day of beer, boobs, and ball. I got a couple of stage dances from Teddy, who has platinum blonde hair in a tight perm that is not very flattering -- it reminds me of my [url=http://www.corrieblog.tv/vera%20bubble%20perm-thumb.jpg]grandmother's hair[/url]. She has a tight body though, and big fake boobs. Paige is a thin brunette who seemed really bored and sat alone even when there were lots of guys with no girls. At one point the manager called her over and (I assume) told her to get with the program, because a few minutes later she joined some guys at a table. Maybe she wasn't feeling well. She danced opposite Elena so I never sat at her stage. Candy is NOT the same Candy from Saturday -- she is a heavier blonde girl who was with a regular all night. Towards the end of the night I did get Mystical to give me a dance at the stage. It was sexy because she was waitressing and not wearing stripper clothes. Seeing her take off her sweatshirt and pretty lace bra was very exciting -- it seemed like she was just an amateur who decided to get naked. More dancers should dress like the girl next door, in my opinion! Now if I could just get bartender Chrissy to do the same thing...

First off, I want to thank everydody on all the helpful advice given to me by you guys for my trip. Back in town now and ready to report (for what its worth)

Headed out Monday night (before the snow) and was able to find my way over to Wash Park.

Started at PT's in Sauget. Walked in, sat down, a nice blonde DD's 20 something blonde sits down on my lap. Quotes me 3 dances for 100, too rich for my blood. Took off. Looking around, good club, somewhat dead, dancers were relatively attractive and friendly. I would recommend but not for that money.

Next: in wash park, miss kitty's. Walk in, got stared down by two gangbangers sitting right in front and what looked like a 60 y/o black woman who was posing as a dancer, turned around and walked out.

Next: larry flynt's. Wow. Extremely impressive pole work. Nothing sexual about it, but these girls should quit dancing and try out for the olympics. Watched 3 dancers go at it on the pole, first was fat, second and third were pretty hot, not one girl came up to me the entire time. Took off.

Next: hollywood. By this point, mr. Happy feeling a little under the weather, so when a VERY hot, 20 year old blonde with a tongue stud, be cups, shaved, came and sat down on my lap, I admit it, got snuckered. 4 dances, . 25 a pop, topless, bottoms on, but moved down to show me her shaved kitty. Put a feeler out there for extras (had a hotel room after all) but got shot down. Next girl: brunette, D cups, fake, I'd say early to mid 30's, bigger tits than the first but the blonde danced way better. Have to say, first time I had a lap dance laying down on my back. Imho, even without the extras and not fully nude, pretty good.

Next: City Nights. Took a different approach, went back to Sauget, tried the small, hole in the wall club, looking for extras. Walk in, one blonde, 5'9, D-DD tits, I'd say 28, told me she was there because she works at Miss Kitty's and they "floated her over there" because City Nights is not doing well and this was their attempt to improve the club (both clubs owned by the same owner). Aside from her, there was the bartender, 3-4 other men, one hot blonde dancer who had her bf there and was only talking to him, and one very skinny (drug user? ) 30 something black girl. Wound up sitting down with the blonde, had actually a really good conversation. Told me how there was a shooting and botched robbery at city nights a few weeks ago. Also talked about cheeks and wiseguys (she used to work at one of the two). Confirmed extras were to be had at that place but also didn't think too highly of the quality of talent. For the record, did try to check out those two clubs after leaving hollywood, but couldn't find them and by this point, it was snowing.

Took the blonde in the back for three songs. Sensational tits, although one was bigger than the other, but nipples were huge. Lots of sucking, tit play, working the extras angle and at one point she did ask "what did you have in mind" which was the best opening I got all night. Quoted her an offer and didn't go for it, used the 2 kids waiting at home argument. Still, best conversation I had all night.

All in all, night would've been a total bust if not for other activitity taking place after the club hunt. (see st louis board).

Of course, having dreamt all of this and not really doing anything, I woke up bright and early the next morning having gone too bed at 8:30 and getting a good night's sleep.

Thanks again and if anyone makes their way up north, I'll be happy to send you any information you need.

For those who don't read the Brooklyn board:
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=758289&postcount=1325]City Nights shooting victim dies[/url]

[QUOTE=KC Questor]For those who don't read the Brooklyn board:
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=758289&postcount=1325]City Nights shooting victim dies[/url][/QUOTE]That was the man the blonde at city nights was talking about. be safe over there.

[QUOTE=Rileym]be safe over there.[/QUOTE]That's impossible given the location and the layout. Nothing to see anyway, or at least nothing you can't see at Kitty's. Don't go there.

It has been awhile since I've checked the forums. I posted a nice review about Harly and Bobbi from CMeows from last summer. Does anyone know if Bobbi is still dancing or working anywhere? I really enjoyed my time with her and was hoping to get to see her again.

Thank You!

Man, this weather really put a crimp in my plans this week. I arranged a short trip to the area for Monday-Wednesday and wouldn't you know it the snow started coming down as soon as I got to town. The roads were awful, the clubs were empty, and the dancers were in a foul mood. Girls who asked me to come see them decided to not go in to work or left early. Even when I did go in and meet up with girls I knew, with the clubs empty they didn't even bother going on stage. It is a whole lot different hanging out at a club when there are no customers and the dancers don't dance.

Construction is going forward at Kitty's on their new VIP room. The entrance to the club is changing up too. They are going to start buzzing guys in like they do at City Nights, and I'm told there will be metal detectors (!). I guess security is a big deal. The VIP room will apparently be like at Wise Guys -- you can take a girl there for a fee to the house and then negotiate with the girl for dances. One dancer told me she heard it would be $70 for 30 minutes, but I have no idea if that is even close. (WG is $50 for 15 minutes but when it is slow they don't really watch the clock).

I actually spent some time at Hollywood on Tuesday. I can certainly see the appeal of that club, but it definitely isn't my style. The girls are pretty, but the closest they get is sitting at the edge of the stage and draping their legs on your shoulders. I don't have a LOT of experience there so maybe it is different other days, but I'd think that a snowy weekday DAY shift would be the most permissible ever and nothing was going on. The bed dances were sensual (and more comfortable than a chair in a cubby like at MK), but when you know nothing will happen it isn't as fun. Plus the porn on the monitors really freaks me out. I guess it is supposed to get you horny, but I guess I'm not into the freaky porn they were showing. Lots of gangbang stuff and ass-to-mouth. You'd think they'd choose porn that appeals to the average guy. I'm not at a club to watch women get abused and humiliated. Plus they hassled me to buy another drink while I was in the middle of putting on my coat to leave. I realize that since they have no cover during the day that guys have to buy drinks. But there's a limit to being that pushy. Still, it would be a good place for a bachelor party or something. I just wouldn't want to hang out there as a regular.

I actually ended the night at Wise Guys, although it was early as the snow was really coming down. Popped in at 9:00 or so and there were 4 dancers and 2 customers. I was out of there by 10:30, didn't even finish my beer bucket. Had a good time, but it just wasn't worth letting the snow pile up more and more.

Heading home tomorrow. Bust of a trip, and probably my last for a few months. Keep the ladies warm, fellows, and always tip well!

[QUOTE=KC Questor]Man, this weather really put a crimp in my plans this week. I arranged a short trip to the area for Monday-Wednesday and wouldn't you know it the snow started coming down as soon as I got to town. The roads were awful, the clubs were empty, and the dancers were in a foul mood. Girls who asked me to come see them decided to not go in to work or left early. Even when I did go in and meet up with girls I knew, with the clubs empty they didn't even bother going on stage. It is a whole lot different hanging out at a club when there are no customers and the dancers don't dance.

Construction is going forward at Kitty's on their new VIP room. The entrance to the club is changing up too. They are going to start buzzing guys in like they do at City Nights, and I'm told there will be metal detectors (!). I guess security is a big deal. The VIP room will apparently be like at Wise Guys -- you can take a girl there for a fee to the house and then negotiate with the girl for dances. One dancer told me she heard it would be $70 for 30 minutes, but I have no idea if that is even close. (WG is $50 for 15 minutes but when it is slow they don't really watch the clock).

I actually spent some time at Hollywood on Tuesday. I can certainly see the appeal of that club, but it definitely isn't my style. The girls are pretty, but the closest they get is sitting at the edge of the stage and draping their legs on your shoulders. I don't have a LOT of experience there so maybe it is different other days, but I'd think that a snowy weekday DAY shift would be the most permissible ever and nothing was going on. The bed dances were sensual (and more comfortable than a chair in a cubby like at MK), but when you know nothing will happen it isn't as fun. Plus the porn on the monitors really freaks me out. I guess it is supposed to get you horny, but I guess I'm not into the freaky porn they were showing. Lots of gangbang stuff and ass-to-mouth. You'd think they'd choose porn that appeals to the average guy. I'm not at a club to watch women get abused and humiliated. Plus they hassled me to buy another drink while I was in the middle of putting on my coat to leave. I realize that since they have no cover during the day that guys have to buy drinks. But there's a limit to being that pushy. Still, it would be a good place for a bachelor party or something. I just wouldn't want to hang out there as a regular.

I actually ended the night at Wise Guys, although it was early as the snow was really coming down. Popped in at 9:00 or so and there were 4 dancers and 2 customers. I was out of there by 10:30, didn't even finish my beer bucket. Had a good time, but it just wasn't worth letting the snow pile up more and more.

Heading home tomorrow. Bust of a trip, and probably my last for a few months. Keep the ladies warm, fellows, and always tip well![/QUOTE]

I'm not liking this new V.I.P room idea at Kitty's already. It sounds like they are trying to be something that they are not. I like it that they are a lower level club with limited extras. I like the stages as they are for they are the best in any of the clubs that I have been too. I hope that what they are asking for the V.I.P doesn't give the girls any ideas for asking for more.

[QUOTE=KC Questor]Man, this weather really put a crimp in my plans this week. I arranged a short trip to the area for Monday-Wednesday and wouldn't you know it the snow started coming down as soon as I got to town. The roads were awful, the clubs were empty, and the dancers were in a foul mood. Girls who asked me to come see them decided to not go in to work or left early. Even when I did go in and meet up with girls I knew, with the clubs empty they didn't even bother going on stage. It is a whole lot different hanging out at a club when there are no customers and the dancers don't dance.

Construction is going forward at Kitty's on their new VIP room. The entrance to the club is changing up too. They are going to start buzzing guys in like they do at City Nights, and I'm told there will be metal detectors (!). I guess security is a big deal. The VIP room will apparently be like at Wise Guys -- you can take a girl there for a fee to the house and then negotiate with the girl for dances. One dancer told me she heard it would be $70 for 30 minutes, but I have no idea if that is even close. (WG is $50 for 15 minutes but when it is slow they don't really watch the clock).

I actually spent some time at Hollywood on Tuesday. I can certainly see the appeal of that club, but it definitely isn't my style. The girls are pretty, but the closest they get is sitting at the edge of the stage and draping their legs on your shoulders. I don't have a LOT of experience there so maybe it is different other days, but I'd think that a snowy weekday DAY shift would be the most permissible ever and nothing was going on. The bed dances were sensual (and more comfortable than a chair in a cubby like at MK), but when you know nothing will happen it isn't as fun. Plus the porn on the monitors really freaks me out. I guess it is supposed to get you horny, but I guess I'm not into the freaky porn they were showing. Lots of gangbang stuff and ass-to-mouth. You'd think they'd choose porn that appeals to the average guy. I'm not at a club to watch women get abused and humiliated. Plus they hassled me to buy another drink while I was in the middle of putting on my coat to leave. I realize that since they have no cover during the day that guys have to buy drinks. But there's a limit to being that pushy. Still, it would be a good place for a bachelor party or something. I just wouldn't want to hang out there as a regular.

I actually ended the night at Wise Guys, although it was early as the snow was really coming down. Popped in at 9:00 or so and there were 4 dancers and 2 customers. I was out of there by 10:30, didn't even finish my beer bucket. Had a good time, but it just wasn't worth letting the snow pile up more and more.

Heading home tomorrow. Bust of a trip, and probably my last for a few months. Keep the ladies warm, fellows, and always tip well![/QUOTE]

I'm not liking this new V.I.P room idea at Kitty's already. It sounds like they are trying to be something that they are not. I like it that they are a lower level club with limited extras. I like the stages as they are for they are the best in any of the clubs that I have been too. I hope that what they are asking for the V.I.P doesn't give the girls any ideas for asking for more.
I am glad that they are upgrading there security. It would be good if the other clubs follow.

Good report as always KC. Sorry that the weather screwed up your plans.

Does buzzing people in really address the security concerns outside the club in the parking lot. Or is this an added level of security for the club and new VIP room.

[QUOTE=Missery]Does buzzing people in really address the security concerns outside the club in the parking lot. Or is this an added level of security for the club and new VIP room.[/QUOTE]

I don't know the motivation, but you can see the new door frame for the locked door. For those of youo familiar with Kitty's, imagine standing just inside the inner door looking out. On your right is the register where they take your cover (night shift) and the board with the girls' names. They moved the board to the other wall (by the bar) and put in a doorway... hell it is hard to explain. Let me draw a picture:

[url]http://www.mywildvacation.com/images/kittyfloorplan.JPG[/url]

The pink area is what used to be the "bookstore". Obviously my scale is a bit off. The area to the right (south) is the overflow room with the garage doors that they open for Friday and Saturday nights. They are advertising a swingers night for Saturdays now, and that area was roped off, although no one was in there. Right now the swinger area opens into the pink VIP area, but I'm sure they'll close it off somehow.

As far as lot security, I mentioned last week that they have a lot security guy, and Chelsea told me that he has been doing a good job -- of course, he is her father! I've never had an issue with MK lot security, personally. It isn't like Dollies or even Wise Guys.

Sorry if this has been addressed before. I haven't noticed it and thought I could pass along some observations from many years of driving around the WP clubs.

Be careful driving to and from the clubs on north Kingshighway, south Kingshighway and Forest Blvd. Illinois state police patrol the area, especially along Kingshighway, pretty heavily. I know several guys who've been pulled over on Kingshighway going to and from Kitty's for pretty thinly vieled reasons-they all think based on race-and ended up with DUIs. Basically if you're white and here you're clubbing and probably drinking. I don't generally hang out in WP at after dark but I've still seen a pretty heavy concentration from time to time even during the day. One Friday six months ago there must have been half a dozen parked in driveways along Kingshighway at about 3 pm.

So if you're drinking and want to go from one of those areas to another you might want to consider taking the back routes to the various clubs: from north Kingshighway to Dollies go north on Kingshighway to Collinsville Rd (second light) east, to Black lane (first light) south, to Forrest Blvd west, to Dollies. Don't speed or swerve on north Kingshighway or Collinsville Rd because State Park Place police seem to have a heavy ticket quota. This summer I was on a conference call on my cell phone, didn't notice the squad car and didn't signal whle changing lanes to avoid a dump truck. $150 fine for improper lane change. I don't think they're profiling though and I doubt if they suspect you're clubbing. White folks don't stick out there there like they do in WP.

From Dollies to the south Kingshighway clubs take Forrest Blvd east, to north 81st street (first right after the Interstate 255 overpass) south, to Bunkum Rd west, to Kingshighway. To go from the north Kingshighway clubs to the south Kingshighway clubs take the route described above but take Black Lane south all the way to Bunkum Road, then east to Kingshighway.

The back routes will take an extra 10-15 minutes but in my view are much safer alternatives if you're drinking. Except for State Park Place I've never seen a squad car from any jurisdiction on any of those roads. And, I've never seen anyone besides me pulled over in State Park Place. I just get the sense they have a quota given my one experience.

Be careful if you decide to venture into Caseyville as well. They seem to have a number of officers patrolling at any given time and I see people pulled overall the time. Again, black or white you're not going to stick out but don't speed or swerve.

If I am in WP after dark it's Kitty's and when I get in my car I pull away from the other cars to the east end of the parking lot so I can avoid a carjacking-from there you can see someone approaching from all angles-and watch the Kingshighway/Bunkam Rd intersection for a couple of minutes to make sure there isn't a trooper around. People have had DUI's coming out of Kitty's headed to the 64 on ramp as well. The ones I know about are all from state troopers.

Finally, don't speed from the PSB on either Interstate 64 to the WP exit or Interstate 55/70 to the Collinsville exit. I've seen speed traps set up a number of times on westbound 64 around mile 4 and eastbound at the 25th street on ramp (the on ramp just before the WP exit). Less frequently, but still often, I've also seen a speed trap eastbound about a mile over the PSB, where the road comes off the elevated section. Again less frequently, but still often, they work in groups of about six along 55/70 between Black Lane, exit 9, and I believe the St. Clair Ave exit-exit 3.

Earlier this week I braved the ice and snow for a late-afternoon sojourn in our favorite Sodom and Gomorrah. I started at WG and found a reasonable stable of 6 dancers, including Kelis, Desire, Dream, Carlie, Stormi, and a black girl who did not share her name. My intent was to relax a while with stage and lap dances and then hit the VIP room. The most attractive and all-around enticing was Kelis, who has a gorgeous face and smile, great personality, and is an absolute wizard on the lap. (So her midsection and booty are a bit plump and not necessarily height-weight proportionate. Still a very nice find for WG.) I was sold on a trip to the back until she quoted $275 for the half hour. Looks-wise, she is up there with some of the local escorts who charge $250+, but of course such a fee typically covers a full hour, in a much more pleasant environment. Some might have haggled, but it is my policy never to do so in such situations, as I believe that the ensuing experience will invariably suffer as a consequence. So I exerted some will-power and politely excused myself.

I ended up taking all of the remaining dancers back for privates (of the $25 variety). Stormi has a fantastic amazonian physique but some kind of strabismus or similar condition. She cut out after our first dance to take a call "from her kid" which was okay by me. Next up was Dream, very sweet girl, mid 20s, blond and attractive, some pregnancy-related belly damage. She advertised the same pricing scale as Kelis, but I wasn't as tempted. Desire gave a great stage dance, in fact possibly a little too dirty as I started to feel self-conscious in front of the other customers, but the timing never worked for a trip to the lap room. The black girl and Carlie gave the most lap-room mileage; Carlie, who is older, indicated an all-inclusive rate of $100 for the VIP room. Tempting, but she is not as attractive as Kelis, and I didn't want to feel that I was being cheap or settling. So I ended up leaving w/ no trip to the VIP room at all. My general policy in a SC is to split when I start feeling unsure about what I’m doing. Carlie did impart that the night girls apparently all offer the same type of menu that can be found during the day shift. If this is true, it's good to know.

Next to Dollie’s, only to find that at 7 PM, there were a total of 2 cars in the parking lot. Granted, this was the tail end of our recent ice storm, but the roads by this time were fine, and WG was lively enough. Must be fallout from the recent attack. A bad sign for this moldy but always reliable WP favorite.

Inspired by the all of the love the place gets on these pages, and overlooking my mixed experiences of the past, I next decided to hit up MK. I had a decent time and enjoyed a couple of decent dances w/ a blond named Molly, but I have to say, I still don’t see the allure of the place. I don’t care for the collection of Humphrey’s pals or indentured servants or whoever they are who invariably congregate at the corner of the bar. The mileage is low relative to the attractiveness of the dancers (by which I mean that the dancers generally are not much more attractive than those found at other much higher-mileage WP spots.) I’m not a fan of getting lapped on a metal fold-up chair. The place seems to draw a higher-than-average quotient of fuckos (and if you don’t know the term, take a few moments and read the hilarious "are you a fucko" diatribe at [url]http://www.zbone.com/internet/bestofzbb/bb021223. Htm[/url]. Finally, I made the mistake of visiting MK at 7 – I. E. , dinner time for several tipsy, 5’6" 140-lb strippers finishing up their day shift. I’ll leave out the details other than to say that the spectacle put the kibosh on my already-waning libido, and I left WP for greener pastures (I. E. One of those escorts mentioned above).

I'm not gonna try to be an apologist for Kitty's or defend the place. I totally understand why some guys won't like it. I probably wouldn't take my friends there for a first time east-side experience. There are a lot of regulars there who can make the place feel like a neighborhood bar. I know what you mean about the cronies hanging around the bar. I can't tell the number of times I've casually mentioned another customer and been told by the girl that he "works" there or is a friend of the owner/manager/whoever. Plus they have one of the worst private areas in the business.

[QUOTE=Dayzed]I’m not a fan of getting lapped on a metal fold-up chair. [/QUOTE]I do, however, insist that they have the best stage dances anywhere if you take into account value, looks, and contact. Nowhere else can you get a full song, full contact, in-lap stage dance for a couple of bucks. The "metal fold up chair" that you mention allows the girl to get right into your lap. Those chairs by the stage at Hollywood or Wise Guys have high arms that mean the girl can't easily straddle you. She sits at the side of the stage -- nice, but not as awesome. Dollies and C-Mowes have the same kind of armless chair that MK has, and their stage dances are good too, however the girls at MK totally blow the Dollies/C-Mowes talent away.

The big comfy armed chairs are good for sitting down and chatting, but two people don't fit in one very easily.

Mentioning CHAIRS - Anyone else tired of trying to find a chair to sit in, besides on pervert row, at the PT's clubs on Friday & Saturday nights?

Last weekend, I had to wander around 20min to find an open chair. And by then the cutie had found another guys lap to sit in.


Oh, and I like Roxy's security check - no metal detector - just one of the girls frisking you. I throw out the standard line, "Would you check there again, please." And tip a dollar if they do. :)

Ok, every once in a blue moon I get to go back up to the St. Louis area.

This visit was mid-December, on a Thursday

Decided to hit Washington Park, as I used to visit the clubs when in school in St L, about 5 or so years ago.

Went to what was then called the Jewel Box. But is now Hustler's. Looked tamer that what it used to be. Taken out the "bed dance" areas. Walked thru the store section and saw more security than customers in there. There were signs posted about loitering, and focused on no sex in the theater area. Looked like at one time somebody had figured out how to have a good time in the theaters, but they were trying to crack down on that.

Girls were not bad.5-8 range. But not very quick to come over (at least the prettier ones.) Moved on after 30 minutes.

Went to the new club across the street. Looked like the Jewel Box owner had opened this one. Very similar. Did enjoy the bed dance. But did not try the VIP. Got the impression the VIP was more of the same, no extra.

Decided to drive a little further in and saw that C-Mowe's had burned. But, it had a new place across the street.

Went in, may be 8 girls. One dancing. Most would come up and rub on you for a $1 tip. Not bad. One asked me for a private.

Private room is open, divided into 2. Bench built in around the edge, dark and not much to it. The lady went straight for it. Not bad. But you have to "walk the gauntlet" after the visit. Kinda puts you off.

Wanted to go on to Hwy 157 area clubs, but was tired by then. The Motel Six at exit 9 on 64 is great though. Quiet with wifi, reasonably clean.

PM for additional info on C-Mowe's

[QUOTE=Mtl Pig]Decided to drive a little further in and saw that C-Mowe's had burned. But, it had a new place across the street.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the report, Mtl Pig. However the new C-Mowe's is still in the same spot as the old one. Across the street is Wise Guys, where there used to be an adult bookstore.

I think Kya is permanently planning to move back to New Jersey next week. I wound up stopping by Blondies again last month. It was about the time of the shift change. A couple of girls had just wandered in one a 20 something hot blonde the other an average looking older black girl- not real old 30-something. The woman in charge told them they were early and they would have to wait in the dressing room until the other girls were done. The other girls were Kya and a dark haired woman old enough to be my mother. Kya seemed to almost remember me and was acting like she had to get across the street real soon so there would not be enough time to have any real fun. She said I should go over there and wait for her. Nothing like driving business away from you employer. I had just ordered a drink and said I did not want to waste it and started playing a video game.

Kya and the older woman soon left the floor and the other two girls came out. The blonde went to sit at the bar. The black girl came over and tried to get me to take her to the back room. She was very pushy and I am not really into black girls so I tried to politely decline. I finally told her I had been in the back room with one of the girls who had just left and was just going to finish using the money I had put in the video game and finish my drink.

So she finally left me and I noticed the blonde, who I would have liked to take into the back room, had gone back to the dressing room. Put some more money in the video game hoping she would return she however did not she had gotten dressed back up in her outside clothes and left. I also did so shortly after and left town. I had several more hours to drive.

Cinnamon worked at Dollies back in November, great body but needs to work on her technique. She has the kind of body you can love but lacks enthusiasm. She gets you hot been once she has you worked up she slows down and you can tell she is already looking for the dollar. If it wasn’t for her $ADD I would make it worth her while for an outside appointment. My fav as always is Raven. Raven has talent and keeps you wanting more and then delivers. Except for Raven, Dollies has been on a down hill slope for a while there Cinnamon, Beautiful, Genovese really kept the place rocking. I wish they could get some quality volume. If Raven leaves I will be looking for new theater of operations. Raven asked me to send you guys and attachment.

What are Raven's typical days and hours at Dollie's?

[QUOTE=Chuck Carr Jr]I think Kya is permanently planning to move back to New Jersey next week. I wound up stopping by Blondies again last month. It was about the time of the shift change. A couple of girls had just wandered in one a 20 something hot blonde the other an average looking older black girl- not real old 30-something. The woman in charge told them they were early and they would have to wait in the dressing room until the other girls were done. The other girls were Kya and a dark haired woman old enough to be my mother. Kya seemed to almost remember me and was acting like she had to get across the street real soon so there would not be enough time to have any real fun. She said I should go over there and wait for her. Nothing like driving business away from you employer. I had just ordered a drink and said I did not want to waste it and started playing a video game.

Kya and the older woman soon left the floor and the other two girls came out. The blonde went to sit at the bar. The black girl came over and tried to get me to take her to the back room. She was very pushy and I am not really into black girls so I tried to politely decline. I finally told her I had been in the back room with one of the girls who had just left and was just going to finish using the money I had put in the video game and finish my drink.

So she finally left me and I noticed the blonde, who I would have liked to take into the back room, had gone back to the dressing room. Put some more money in the video game hoping she would return she however did not she had gotten dressed back up in her outside clothes and left. I also did so shortly after and left town. I had several more hours to drive.[/QUOTE]

Too bad the blond did come through for you. Sorry to see Kya leaving if it comes to pass. I hope to get one last shot at her.

Thanks for the update.

I was out and about yesterday and made the normal rounds. I was heading to check out Dollies after spending time at WG's and seen two very nice looking young gals going into Blondies.They are both very attractive and very willing to visit.Rheir names are Red Hot and Trixie and definitely worth while checking out.

Previously a friend of mine and I went to the Queen of Hearts in Fenton. Now I have been to some pretty shitty strip clubs before, but this was the worst. I went there with the lowest of expectations because I knew that the wore pasties.

Then didn't even meet those standards.

There were 2 dancers. One looked very crackish but had a great body, and worked the pole like a champ.

The other dancer was possibly the oldest and ugliest dancer that I have ever seen. I believe that she may have broke my dick. She was so ugly that I would have paid her to not dance. (I'm not saying this to be funny, I'm saying this because it was the truth).I didn't venture to another strip club for weeks.

Until Tonight.

I started out at the Hustler club. I read in a review that the dancers would go back to the peep show. so that is where I started. There were no dancers there, and that whole area was pretty dead. I was disappointed to find that the "Peep show" were actually movie viewing booths. If that isn't false advertising I don't know what it.

I was surprised to find out that the cover to the club was only $10

So I figured that I would venture in there. They were by far some of the hottest dancers that I have ever seen. Once came and sat down with me. We had a decent conversation. She told me that she didn't do drugs or trick. I didn't even have to ask. It made it much easier for me to turn her down when she offered to let me buy her a drink. (She didn't like that and promplty left). I saw her talking to other dancers, and I figured that she told them that I wouldn't buy her a drink. So I figured that it would be better if I left.

I figured my next stop would be to Blondies. I wanted some action. There was only one car there so I didn't even stop.

I was about to cut my losses, but I figure I would see what the cover was at Miss Kitty's. It was only $6 so I figured what the hell.

The girls were not that fine looking (most were overweight), but almost all of them had fake breast, and they loved to let you touch them. (This is something new for me, because all the strip clubs back home had a strict no touching rule).

The one with the "self proclaimed" biggest breast came up to me first. She was rubbing all over me, and it was looking promising. I asked her if there was any action, she said no.

I moved on.

Then next girl who came up to me never even touched me, so I figured that there was definitely no action, and moved on.

The last girl came up to me and promised 2 songs and a HE for $. I told her that was steep, and that I wanted some mouth. She said no. I told her that was still steep, and I could do that at home for free. She said that if she got caught by management they would charge her a $100 fine, and she had to cover her cost.

In a week moment I agreed.

We went back there and half way through the first song a waitress came in to do a dance, so she stopped working. Once she realized that the waitress wasn't leaving she did a halfass attempt to finish.

Half way through the second song she asked me if I wanted to finish myself. I said no. Then right before the song ended she said she could do one more song for .3 - I said that I've already given her $ she should finish.

She said she had to be on stage, and there was YET ANOTHER $100 fine if the didn't make it. She promptly got up and left.

I was robbed.

I think my STL Strip Club Trips are done for a while.

[QUOTE=Howudoin 7410]I started out at the Hustler club. I read in a review that the dancers would go back to the peep show. so that is where I started. There were no dancers there, and that whole area was pretty dead. I was disappointed to find that the "Peep show" were actually movie viewing booths. If that isn't false advertising I don't know what it. ===[/quote]
Sorry to hear your Hustler Club visit was a fizzle. Hustler has a strict policy forbidding their dancers to venture into the peep show (or video stall) area of the building (where the Boutique is). The dancers aren't allowed over there.

When there are ladies offering their services in that video stall area, they are neighborhood ladies who don't work at the Hustler Club.

I'm kind of curious, though, where you heard that Hustler's dancers would sometimes go over to the video stalls area. Nice report. You'll have better luck next time. - Rosco

[QUOTE=Howudoin 7410]

I think my STL Strip Club Trips are done for a while.[/QUOTE]


Take some time and read through this section of the board. There is a ton of information here to help you have a successful trip. If you would have stopped in at C-Mowes or Wise Guys during your visit you probably would have found exactly what you were looking for. Just remember to very observant and security conscious when going to the clubs.

[QUOTE=Howudoin 7410]I saw her talking to other dancers, and I figured that she told them that I wouldn't buy her a drink. So I figured that it would be better if I left.
[/QUOTE]
I have to disagree. Sometimes one of the other girls will come over and ask if you didn't like the other girl, just to prove she can get you back there whereas the first girl couldn't. You were already there, so hang loose for 15 minutes and see what comes up. Just my take.

Sorry you didn't have a good time in East St. louis. I know a bunch of guys will jump on your report and I don't want to pile on. but I have some comments. I hope I don't sound like I am some white knight riding to the rescue of my favorite clubs!

[QUOTE=Howudoin 7410]I started out at the Hustler club. I read in a review that the dancers would go back to the peep show. so that is where I started. There were no dancers there, and that whole area was pretty dead. I was disappointed to find that the "Peep show" were actually movie viewing booths. If that isn't false advertising I don't know what it.[/quote]There really is a "Peep Show" back there, where there are girls dancing in an enclosed room and you can pay money to have a curtain/panel raised so you can watch them. However there is usually a sign posted outside the area listing who is working and if there are no girls there, the sign will say so. Also, in my experience it isn't uncommon for video booths to be referred to as a peep show. Finally there are two actual theaters there where people are together in a room -- one for gays and one for couples. Read some of the reports here and you'll see there is occasionally action in those theaters.

[QUOTE=Howudoin 7410]I was surprised to find out that the cover to the club was only $10[/quote]Funny, because to me a $10 cover is outrageous! The only time I'll happily pay that is if the club is BYOB so there is no bar.

[QUOTE=Howudoin 7410]I figured my next stop would be to Blondies. I wanted some action. There was only one car there so I didn't even stop.[/quote]That's quite the jump, from Hustler (the classiest, bachelor-partiest club in the area) down to Blondie's (the skankiest, crack-whoriest "club" in the area).

[QUOTE=Howudoin 7410]I was about to cut my losses, but I figure I would see what the cover was at Miss Kitty's. It was only $6 so I figured what the hell.

The girls were not that fine looking (most were overweight), but almost all of them had fake breast, and they loved to let you touch them. (This is something new for me, because all the strip clubs back home had a strict no touching rule).[/quote]Surprised you saw a lot of fake breasts at Kitty's. When I am there they are a definite minority. It is strange but wonderful to come from a "no touching" locale to one where touching is encouraged!

[QUOTE=Howudoin 7410]I asked her if there was any action, she said no....Then next girl who came up to me never even touched me... The last girl came up to me and promised 2 songs and a HE for $.[/quote]
Wow, that's amazing! Was this a busy weekend night? That's the only time I can imagine something like this. I guess with a $6 cover it must have been. The typical day price is half what you paid, and no specific song limit.

[QUOTE=Howudoin 7410]I was robbed.I think my STL Strip Club Trips are done for a while.[/quote]It does sound like you were robbed, and for $100 too. That sucks.

Sorry you had such a bad time. I agree with Jannisary. You could have had a good time if you had tried C-Mowes or Cheeks or Wise Guys. Thanks for the report though!

[QUOTE=KC Questor]There really is a "Peep Show" back there, where there are girls dancing in an enclosed room and you can pay money to have a curtain/panel raised so you can watch them. However there is usually a sign posted outside the area listing who is working and if there are no girls there, the sign will say so. Also, in my experience it isn't uncommon for video booths to be referred to as a peep show.[/QUOTE]

Great report KC Questor. Has Hustler re-opened their live peep show (with live girls)? They used to have it, but closed it down last year. I hope they've re-opened the live peep show; that would be great!

Also, in the past when Hustler had the live peep show, the ladies performing the show were never Hustler's dancers. Hustler's peep show girls and their regular dancers were different people. It would be great if now you had the option to ask a dancer into the live peep show area. Is that the case now?

Great info, as always KC Questor :) - Rosco

[QUOTE=Rosco2]Has Hustler re-opened their live peep show (with live girls)? They used to have it, but closed it down last year. I hope they've re-opened the live peep show; that would be great![/QUOTE]
I can't comment one way or another on that. It is possible they haven't re-opened. I've only been there a few times in the past year, and those were to take a girl there when we didn't want to go get a hotel room. All of those times were early in the day and the sign said something like "Now performing:" and then below that "No Live Dancers". I always assumed that they were just not on shift.

Does anyone know why strip club dancers sometimes change their stage names? I'm thinking of a knock-out lady who used one stage name at an upper-end East Side club. Then she took some time off from dancing. For a couple months, she stopped dancing completely. When she returned to stripping at the *same* club 2 months later, she changed her stage name.

Incidentally, I called the Hustler Club long-distance to find out if the live peep show booth has re-opened. Sadly, the live peep show booth in the Boutique area is still closed. Our new friend HowUdoin was 100-percent right. - Rosco

[QUOTE=Rosco2]Does anyone know why strip club dancers sometimes change their stage names? I'm thinking of a knock-out lady who used one stage name at an upper-end East Side club. Then she took some time off from dancing. For a couple months, she stopped dancing completely. When she returned to stripping at the *same* club 2 months later, she changed her stage name. - Rosco[/QUOTE]

My advise is do not try to come up with a logical reason why a dancer does anything. I have know some that used the same name for years and some that every time they saw something that they liked, they would change their name to it. Some will change their name because it makes them sound new to the game. Many of the girls have not learned about the importance of name brand recognition. LOL.