Massage Parlor Reports

That's too bad. I actually just signed onto this thread to look for Bill's post to get her number. Sorry you had that experience. Can't blame you for being pissed.


[QUOTE=Troop]Teri the Massage Therapist in Bill Ho post # 1247 . Icalled Teri on Sunday after her return to town. She called me back on Tuesday afternoon. Very nice, sexy voice and friendly. I got an appointment for Thursday at two. Teri called me at one to confirm the appointment. I leave the office and arrive at her Apt at five till two. She calls and says shes running late. She asks if we can make it 2:15 ? Yes I say. She lives 10 min from my office, so I set aside 1 1/2 hours for this appointment. At 2:30 , no Teri. I call and she is very sorry for running late. Asks me to please dont leave and is two min away. At 2:50 she calls and says "IM coming down to open security gate to let me in. Ten min later I get in my car and go back to the office hot, tired and surly. Ten min after I leave, she calls. I did not answer because I would have been very unpleasent.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Troop]Teri the Massage Therapist in Bill Ho post # 1247 . Icalled Teri on Sunday after her return to town. She called me back on Tuesday afternoon. Very nice, sexy voice and friendly. I got an appointment for Thursday at two. Teri called me at one to confirm the appointment. I leave the office and arrive at her Apt at five till two. She calls and says shes running late. She asks if we can make it 2:15 ? Yes I say. She lives 10 min from my office, so I set aside 1 1/2 hours for this appointment. At 2:30 , no Teri. I call and she is very sorry for running late. Asks me to please dont leave and is two min away. At 2:50 she calls and says "IM coming down to open security gate to let me in. Ten min later I get in my car and go back to the office hot, tired and surly. Ten min after I leave, she calls. I did not answer because I would have been very unpleasent.[/QUOTE]


She did the same thing to me. I made an appointment for 7 PM. She told me she was just going around the corner to grab a quick sandwich and might be a few minutes late. I get a few phone calls starting with " I`m leaving the sandwich shop now", " I`m getting out of my car", ' i`m getting out of my car", AGAIN!!! LOL ) " I`m walking into my apartment now " etc.... She finally comes down to the gate about 8:15 and is quick to apologize. The only reason I stayed around so long was that voice of hers..........I had to see what this angel looked like. That, and I had a very stressful day at work and needed to let off some steam. I can`t even put into words what you missed by leaving. Absolutely the best massage I ever had. Most AMPS you go into, the massage you get is nothing more then a little rub here, a little rub there, stretch this, etc.... With her gifted hands, combined with the soft music and candles, Teri is in a class by herself

[QUOTE=Troop]Teri the Massage Therapist in Bill Ho post # 1247 . Icalled Teri on Sunday after her return to town. She called me back on Tuesday afternoon. Very nice, sexy voice and friendly. I got an appointment for Thursday at two. Teri called me at one to confirm the appointment. I leave the office and arrive at her Apt at five till two. She calls and says shes running late. She asks if we can make it 2:15 ? Yes I say. She lives 10 min from my office, so I set aside 1 1/2 hours for this appointment. At 2:30 , no Teri. I call and she is very sorry for running late. Asks me to please dont leave and is two min away. At 2:50 she calls and says "IM coming down to open security gate to let me in. Ten min later I get in my car and go back to the office hot, tired and surly. Ten min after I leave, she calls. I did not answer because I would have been very unpleasent.[/QUOTE]I have seen Teri three times now, and the last time it happened to me. It always seems to be one hour and 15 minutes. I wonder why? That last call that you did not answer was most likely her saying: " I just opened the door and you are not here." At least that was what she said to me. I had left after an hour and 15 minutes, but was less than a block away so I turned around, knowing what I would have missed.

Being retired, waiting over an hour did not bother me, since it made no difference to me where I was sitting doing nothing, at home or in my car in front of her house. That is in no way intended to defend her. Since it happened to me, you, and SpeedRacer as well, it seems that you only have a 60% chance of seeing Teri on time. If you are a working person, or are otherwise on a schedule, I would say that if she is 15 minutes late, she will be an hour and 15 late. You may as well leave. Just remember: It does not happen all the time and once you see her, and enjoy her excellent massage (oops. Body rub), you will be glad you made it.

[QUOTE=Bill Ho]I have seen Teri three times now, and the last time it happened to me. It always seems to be one hour and 15 minutes. I wonder why? That last call that you did not answer was most likely her saying: " I just opened the door and you are not here." At least that was what she said to me. I had left after an hour and 15 minutes, but was less than a block away so I turned around, knowing what I would have missed.

Being retired, waiting over an hour did not bother me, since it made no difference to me where I was sitting doing nothing, at home or in my car in front of her house. That is in no way intended to defend her. Since it happened to me, you, and SpeedRacer as well, it seems that you only have a 60% chance of seeing Teri on time. If you are a working person, or are otherwise on a schedule, I would say that if she is 15 minutes late, she will be an hour and 15 late. You may as well leave. Just remember: It does not happen all the time and once you see her, and enjoy her excellent massage (oops. Body rub), you will be glad you made it.[/QUOTE]

I think everyone's time is important and should be respected. I would have a problem with any provider that was frequently late. A boss once said to me when I was a young man, "better an hour early than a minute late." That is kind of extreme, but it all comes down to respect. If you respect the other person's time, you will make your appointments on time. Once in a while, an emergency happens, but frequent lateness indicates an irresponsible attitude.

[QUOTE=Otwist]I think everyone's time is important and should be respected. I would have a problem with any provider that was frequently late. A boss once said to me when I was a young man, "better an hour early than a minute late." That is kind of extreme, but it all comes down to respect. If you respect the other person's time, you will make your appointments on time. Once in a while, an emergency happens, but frequent lateness indicates an irresponsible attitude.[/QUOTE]
I dont hold grudges with providers unless they steal my money. Then its on. I simply had no more time as I had another appointment to attend. I was on time for it too. I am sad to hear that its a thing that happens more than it should with Teri. I may well use her service again. Who knows ? Not any time soon. I just wanted my fellow forum members to know. That is what this forum is about. I consult this forum before I go to any provider.

[QUOTE=Otwist]I think everyone's time is important and should be respected. I would have a problem with any provider that was frequently late. A boss once said to me when I was a young man, "better an hour early than a minute late." That is kind of extreme, but it all comes down to respect. If you respect the other person's time, you will make your appointments on time. Once in a while, an emergency happens, but frequent lateness indicates an irresponsible attitude.[/QUOTE]I quite agree. It is just that I have all the time in the world. And ohhh, the rewards - - -

While reading todays sports section in the Tribune, I noticed the usual ads for massage places. Among them was a new place, Green Spa, located off Dale Mabry just north of Kennedy, behind a place called Habana Sandwiches. There was another AMP at this location before, but closed down right before The Super Bowl, for " legal reasons ". Anyway, I wanted to get inside to take a quick " lookie-look". Went inside and found the waiting area to be clean and very spacious. Mamasan finally appears and informs me it is $80 for one hour and she attempts to get me to get a massage while I was there. But I had time constraints and could not stay. Told mamasan I would be back at another time. Anyone else visit this location yet?

Went to Yoshiko looking for Mia, but she was on vacation. Was greeted by Chris, a tall, statueesque Korean. Body 8.5. Face 6, 5

Got good TS and maybe the best massage I've ever had. But she offered $ for HJ and $$ for FS.- and wouldn't budge a penny. I declined, tipped her $20 for the massage only and left.- probably only the second time I've ever price walked.

It's time to teach the greedy ones a lesson.

She says Mia and everyone else "same price."

My theory is this: Customer traffic is down due to the economy, so some places are trying to make up for colume with higher prices. Anyone else think this is true? Yung at Spring has tried raising prices, too.

[QUOTE=Seffner Monger]But she offered $ for HJ and $$ for FS.- and wouldn't budge a penny...She says Mia and everyone else "same price."...My theory is this: Customer traffic is down due to the economy, so some places are trying to make up for volume with higher prices. Anyone else think this is true? [/QUOTE]

Actually the $$ for F/S there has been the going rate for some time now. At least a few years.

[QUOTE=Seffner Monger]Went to Yoshiko looking for Mia, but she was on vacation. Was greeted by Chris, a tall, statueesque Korean. Body 8.5. Face 6, 5

Got good TS and maybe the best massage I've ever had. But she offered $ for HJ and $$ for FS.- and wouldn't budge a penny. I declined, tipped her $20 for the massage only and left.- probably only the second time I've ever price walked.[/QUOTE]
Yoshiko is the only place I've ever price walked. In fact, I've been to AMP's all over the country and this is still the most expensive AMP I have ever seen. You can usually expect good quality there, but for me its not worth it.

So I am off to Vegas for Labor Day. Anyone per chance have any rec's for mongering there?

PM would greatly be appreciated!

Seems like Lucy and Nana are gone. Not sure about Tina.
New faces are Sunny, Genie and a Third that I missed the name, might have been Mimi.
Sunny and Genie are in the same class as Tina and Lucy. No need for details here. Mimi, was an over all B+. Not the best massage I have had there and she looks a bit older than the other two.

No menu changes.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Otwist]I think everyone's time is important and should be respected. I would have a problem with any provider that was frequently late. A boss once said to me when I was a young man, "better an hour early than a minute late." That is kind of extreme, but it all comes down to respect. If you respect the other person's time, you will make your appointments on time. Once in a while, an emergency happens, but frequent lateness indicates an irresponsible attitude.[/QUOTE]To echo everyone else's comments. I've missed two of three appointments with Teri. Both times were confirmed appointments and I ended up waiting, over an hour the first time and about 30 minutes the second time. The one appointment that I made, I waited over an hour. It turns out that she scheduled someone else at the same time. I did feel that my time wasn't respected. I would see her much more otherwise. She's great and probably the best rub that I've received. Sadly, she was so good during the one visit, I haven't wanted to go anywhere else.

[QUOTE=Whale Hunter]Seems like Lucy and Nana are gone. Not sure about Tina.
New faces are Sunny, Genie and a Third that I missed the name, might have been Mimi.
Sunny and Genie are in the same class as Tina and Lucy. No need for details here. Mimi, was an over all B+. Not the best massage I have had there and she looks a bit older than the other two.

No menu changes.

Cheers[/QUOTE]



There's a new girl at Japanese Spa who is every bit as smooth and sexy as Tina. No FS extras but she's every bit as talented with her hands.
She's about 40ish which is younger than most other Japanese Spa girls. I can't remember her name, not sure I even asked. I'll repeat!

Two more busts today at local massage parlors. Oxygen Spa for unlicensed practice of health care and prostitution; Osaka Spa for prostitution.

[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29]Two more busts today at local massage parlors. Oxygen Spa for unlicensed practice of health care and prostitution; Osaka Spa for prostitution.[/QUOTE]


[url]http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=09047509[/url]

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[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29]Two more busts today at local massage parlors. Oxygen Spa for unlicensed practice of health care and prostitution; Osaka Spa for prostitution.[/QUOTE]That blows. This makes it harder to get what you want at a decent price . I would hate to go to a Massage Spa and come away with only a massage.

Received a massage from Summer while in town a few weeks ago...All in all, it was a lousy massage, despite the smiley ending...I opted not to partake in anything else on her menu.

Definitely would not recommend. In addition to giving a lousy massage, she's not attractive (in my opinion) and she talks WAY, WAY too much.

[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/thp/1349895875.html[/url]
727-565-5571

More will come, big TPD initiative in that area going on; drug-dealing, prostitution are focus areas. Be careful all.

Odd that Osaka woman got prostitution charge, there hasn't been any of that going on there for a while, unless HJ is included.

[QUOTE=Trendz Tampa]So I am off to Vegas for Labor Day. Anyone per chance have any rec's for mongering there?

PM would greatly be appreciated![/QUOTE]

Check out the Vegas thread here if you have not done so already. Lots of good info in there. I'll be heading out there again in early Dec.

Saw this provider while I was in town not long ago. Nice lady. Nice personality. Average looking. Gives a fairly good legit massage. YMMV but there was absolutely no hint of anything sensual from her during my session. (It's the only massage I've ever received while completely undraped in which Mr. Happy didn't come close to stiffening even for just a minute or two.)

Still, I would recommend her if you're looking for a legit massage, even though her $ fee for a one-hour session seems a wee bit pricey for just a legit massage.

(813) 992-2240
[url]http://tampafl.creativeloafing.com/TherapeuticMassage/o_9829_o_a_classy_touch_just_4_u_mobile_therapy_o_9829_o_/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1813483[/url]

Recently saw Bambi from Backpage.

[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/young_p_y_is_the_best_p_y_you_want_me_give_me_a_call_/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1813257[/url]

She is ABSOLUTELY beautiful! However, that is where the positives stop. Her and at least one other girl are working out of a closed chiropractic office is a strip plaza on Gandy and Manhattan. We agreed on a donation on the phone and I headed over. Place is not very nice as quoted in her ad. She seemed pretty nervous. Had me lay on "the table" and she started to rub mr. Limpy. As she did she informed me this was full service and if I wanted more I needed to ask for GFE, which was considerable more. She did allow touching, but the service was VERY lack-luster. It did achieve the needed result, upon which she thre me some wipes and said get dressed and you're done. Very little personality. Probably won't repeat, but she was absolutely smokin with a very tight little body. She advertises she's 19 and I would agree the age seems about right. Btw, her friend was kind of a *****!

Thanks for the report on Bambi, I've been eyeballing that girls ads for a while now. Good to know that she really is as hot as her pics seem! Even after your review of her lackluster performance, I am still tempted to see her.

[QUOTE=Shlong]Recently saw Bambi from Backpage.

[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/young_p_y_is_the_best_p_y_you_want_me_give_me_a_call_/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1813257[/url]

She is ABSOLUTELY beautiful! However, that is where the positives stop. Her and at least one other girl are working out of a closed chiropractic office is a strip plaza on Gandy and Manhattan. We agreed on a donation on the phone and I headed over. Place is not very nice as quoted in her ad. She seemed pretty nervous. Had me lay on "the table" and she started to rub mr. Limpy. As she did she informed me this was full service and if I wanted more I needed to ask for GFE, which was considerable more. She did allow touching, but the service was VERY lack-luster. It did achieve the needed result, upon which she thre me some wipes and said get dressed and you're done. Very little personality. Probably won't repeat.[/quote]I guess not. Bambi is with Karin of Tampa or at least has been trained by Karin. The Queens Of Upsale!

[QUOTE=Trendz Tampa]So I am off to Vegas for Labor Day. Anyone per chance have any rec's for mongering there?

PM would greatly be appreciated! [/QUOTE]When you go to Vegas, the outcall ads are EVERYWHERE and the turnover rate is off the chart. You will see what I mean. But it starts with full-serivce bucks just to come to the room, and THEN the negotiation begins.

The strip clubs have a lot available, but same deal. The girls are totally into seeing how much $$ they can get for a little as possible.

The word "provider" should be banned from Vegas.

But a somewhat new thing has popped up. AFRs. Asian Foot Rubs. They wash your feet in warm/hot water and give you the best foot rub you have probably ever had. They may or may not do arms/hands/shoulders. Then a skilled HE (no roaming IME). If the tables and machines are not being kind to you, and the walking has been rough on your dogs, I recommend a good foot rub. There was a place near the Rio with HYDRO in the name. Sorry cannot remember exactly.

Enjoy your trip.

J

[QUOTE=Troop]I guess not. Bambi is with Karin of Tampa or at least has been trained by Karin. The Queens Of Upsale! [/QUOTE]And as everyone knows, Karin is really Tampa Tori. The MO described by Bambi is that same as has been described by countless here on bad experiences with Tampa Tori and all her alter egos. Kristi, Amanda Luv, etc. The ads are so easy to spot. Just watch Backpage for ads containing (borrowed) pics of a blond model with no face shots, some mention of being a college co-ed, and profuse assurances that she is the best in town, legit and not using fake pics. She changes names often, but the service remains the same.

I think you overpaid for a HJ. 2 Jacksons would have been more than enough. Gloves are not standard in Miami, this is the first time I've heard of rubber gloves being used during the body rub. Anyone else experience this? Too bad you didn't pick up the other chick. Where was this place with rubber gloves? I wanna make sure I don't go there.

[QUOTE=G Money Cool]And as everyone knows, Karin is really Tampa Tori. The MO described by Bambi is that same as has been described by countless here on bad experiences with Tampa Tori and all her alter egos. Kristi, Amanda Luv, etc. The ads are so easy to spot. Just watch Backpage for ads containing (borrowed) pics of a blond model with no face shots, some mention of being a college co-ed, and profuse assurances that she is the best in town, legit and not using fake pics. She changes names often, but the service remains the same.[/QUOTE]This forum is so valuable. I never, ever vist a Provider without researching this forum first. This is why Monger reports are so needed.

I seem to have a problem connecting with these independent Rubber Girls. I always get to my appointments on time and expect the same in return. I'm looking through Backpage for a Rubber and find Kashmir The Tantric Goddess. Big Ed and the twins say yes, lets do this. Lets climb the walls at the Kasbar. (her ad) Ad says call between 9am and 330pm for appointment. I call about 10am and wake the surly rubber. She growls, "call me back." I did not. Two hours later she calls 3 times. I answer and shes as sweet as can be. I get an appt next day 2pm. She says call an hour ahead to confirm. I do and shes just waking again. But shes sweet. "Call me when your near and I'll guide you in." Again Big Ed and the twins are excited. I call at ten till two and the surly Kashmir answers, "Its not 2 yet yet. Don't call me till 2.". Before I can explain by the time I get your directions and find you, it will be 2. She hangs up. Big Ed and the twins say f#@k her. Not sure what they ment by that, but I went back to work. Crap!

[QUOTE=Vitamin P][url]http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=09047509[/url]

[url]http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=09047510[/url][/QUOTE]Osaka gets busted? That makes no sense. They turn legit and get busted. That's funny....

[QUOTE=Super Tramp]Osaka gets busted? That makes no sense. They turn legit and get busted. That's funny....[/QUOTE]Prostitution and providing unlicensed health care, doesn't sound like they turned "legit" to me.

Hello,

Has anyone heard when Body Sage will reopen? It distinguished itself by charging only $65/hour for a massage. I've called a couple of times and drove by today. No luck, but the sign is still up.

IMHO, Mimi was pretty righteous over there while it was open.

Does anyone know of another AMP like B_Sage that charges in the $60 range for an hour?

[QUOTE=Bill Voltaire]Hello,

Has anyone heard when Body Sage will reopen? It distinguished itself by charging only $65/hour for a massage. I've called a couple of times and drove by today. No luck, but the sign is still up.

IMHO, Mimi was pretty righteous over there while it was open.

Does anyone know of another AMP like B_Sage that charges in the $60 range for an hour?[/QUOTE]

All 3 places are reasonably priced and are RECOMMENDED for good service.

Body Temple (Asian Massage) $70/hour table shower and great Asian massage in a very nice facility. The table showers are very thorough and you will leave completely drained of any tension or stress you might have come with. [url]http://www.salonsinflorida.com/Body-Temple-25296.html[/url]

Jantana (Asian Full Body Rub) works out of her home in Largo $50/hr basic ($80/hour/upgrade) and you may get some of her awesome Thai curry as a treat! Jantana takes direction well and is very accommodating. You will leave a happy man as Jantana will stroke your tense muscles until they release all the tension inside! [url]http://jantanabodyrub.com/photos.html[/url]

Final Touch/Tropical Gardens (relaxing aromatherapy) $80 for 20 minute headache relief with a very nice selection of girls that will make it hard for you to choose. You will keep you coming back for more as your stress is always relieved. [url]http://www.finaltouch-tropicalgardens.com/apps/photos/[/url]

Go to St Pete AMP Board and search on these providers for more details.

Hello all,

I am a recent transplant to Florida and this is my first post in the Florida forums. Thanks to all for the many posts that have made getting aquainted with Tampa much easier.

My report is on the newly named AMP on N. Dale Mabry (if you can't find their ads on CL, you are blind).

They are touted as legit only, however there are options with the right girl. When it comes to hit and miss AMPS, I typically would disregard except in this case EVERY massage from every girl I have recieved has been amazing. If you are looking for a great rubdown and the potential for more, check this place out. I personally recommend the .99 90-minute massage w/TS if you have the time. If you want to know the names of the two ladies I know offer extra, send me a PM. Since I am not a Senior Member, this is open to everyone that has at least made some post contribution.

Note: they use a LOT of oil. If this is a problem with you, best to avoid. Although they do the TS after the massage instead of before like most AMPS.

Deviant

Guys, I'm normally a STFF (search-the-fucking-forum) sort of person, but in this case searching the forum wasn't terribly helpful.

I'm in search of a girl [i]in Tampa[/i] -- I don't want to drive to St. Pete -- who gives a really good, deep tissue massage. I'd prefer an actual LMT who can take care of my aching neck and upper back, and then drain my balls, although the last is optional. I'd even be ok seeing someone perfectly legit, as long as she's talented.

So, to sum up:

[b]REQUIRED[/b]

- Top-notch, professional deep tissue massage skills. LMT preferred.
- Female and above-average looking, with an athletic build. (I can't stand being massaged by an ugly and/or dumpy woman, no matter how talented.)

[b]OPTIONAL[/b]

- BBBJ, preferably with CIM. A handjob or CBJ will not cut it for me. She might as well be electrocuting my cock, that's how useless it is for me.

Gentlemen, I appreciate your feedback. Post in the forum or PM, whichever you prefer.

[QUOTE=Clinton Bush]All 3 places are reasonably priced and are RECOMMENDED for good service.

Body Temple (Asian Massage) $70/hour table shower and great Asian massage in a very nice facility. The table showers are very thorough and you will leave completely drained of any tension or stress you might have come with. [url]http://www.salonsinflorida.com/Body-Temple-25296.html[/url]

Jantana (Asian Full Body Rub) works out of her home in Largo $50/hr basic ($80/hour/upgrade) and you may get some of her awesome Thai curry as a treat! Jantana takes direction well and is very accommodating. You will leave a happy man as Jantana will stroke your tense muscles until they release all the tension inside! [url]http://jantanabodyrub.com/photos.html[/url]

Final Touch/Tropical Gardens (relaxing aromatherapy) $80 for 20 minute headache relief with a very nice selection of girls that will make it hard for you to choose. You will keep you coming back for more as your stress is always relieved. [url]http://www.finaltouch-tropicalgardens.com/apps/photos/[/url]

Go to St Pete AMP Board and search on these providers for more details.[/QUOTE]I paid a visit to Jantana today and she is definitely a real sweetheart and enjoyed the massage and what she does. Enjoyed the "TO GO" bag as well, that now also includes a fortune cookie!

Tampa Monger wrote: "might as well be electrocuting my cock. "

I'm not a fan of CBJ either. But electrocuting my cock might be fun. I'm UP for giving that a try. I like to explore. LOL

I got a call from a very sweet Kashmir The Tantric Goddess a few days ago. She was drumming business in her slow period. I posted about her a few few days ago. (#1311) She was not only sweet, she was giving me a special 80 rate if I wanted to cum over. As Ive reported in the past, I dont hold grudges so off I went to meet Kashmir. However after knocking on the door several times, a human beachball waddles to greet me. I kid you not. A beachball with legs. She was as wide as she was tall. Without a word I got back into the monger rocket and took off.

I like a women with meat on the bones, but not fat. Stay clear.

After the Kashmir fiasco I decided to try Teri , the independant masseuse that Bill Ho turned us on to some time back. I had bad luck with Teri (see posts 1282,1287) and appointment. Teri called me right back and was very pleasent as she always is. I made an appointment for the next day

Bill was right. She was great with her hands. She looked terriffic. She did a great job climbing all over me with her very toned, naked body. The ending as you all know is a HJ. And as Tampa Monger has stated in the past,HJs and CBJs dont feed the bull dog. However the massage was one of the best and most enjoyable Ive ever had. I will revisit Teri. Soon me thinks.

Thanks Bill Ho for turning me on to this gem.

[QUOTE=Troop]I got a call from a very sweet Kashmir The Tantric Goddess a few days ago. She was drumming business in her slow period. I posted about her a few few days ago. (#1311) She was not only sweet, she was giving me a special 80 rate if I wanted to cum over. As Ive reported in the past, I dont hold grudges so off I went to meet Kashmir. However after knocking on the door several times, a human beachball waddles to greet me. I kid you not. A beachball with legs. She was as wide as she was tall. Without a word I got back into the monger rocket and took off.

I like a women with meat on the bones, but not fat. Stay clear.[/QUOTE]Makes you wonder why India and Pakistan would fight bloody wars for half a century over a chubby rub-and-tugger.