Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

[QUOTE=BobSacamano71;4193345]I guess I'll weigh in here as well. I do agree that a little research can be helpful. But with that said I think Jizman is excessive and crosses a line. It's one thing to do research yourself, but he constantly reseaches a girl's personal business and basically posts bread crumbs here so anyone who looks at this site could find out everything about these girls. I'm guessing there are some sick fucks that look at this site and that info gives them everything they need to stalk a girl and possibly worse. Info on how a girl looks, how she performs, if she's legit, that's all great. But when you post a name, first initial of their last name and the time and date you can find them on a website that posts their full legal name. Why not post their social security numbers as well?

[blue]Or, why not report the posts.

Just saying

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]I see what you are saying and apparently the Admin has a system set up for this. I don't believe that these gals personal info is anybody's business. They are providing a service, we are not marrying them! LOL I don't want to know all that information. Just my opinion! I find it all kind of creepy. I don't think we should be referring to their legal woes. Why humiliate the girls? Sadly though, I think some creepers out there do want to humiliate them in many ways. Much to much to discuss here.

As A2 says, if we think its not appropriate, report it and let him have the final say. Again, my opinion.

Live Monger out.

[QUOTE=LiveMonger;4193506]I see what you are saying and apparently the Admin has a system set up for this. I don't believe that these gals personal info is anybody's business. They are providing a service, we are not marrying them! LOL I don't want to know all that information. Just my opinion! I find it all kind of creepy. I don't think we should be referring to their legal woes. Why humiliate the girls? Sadly though, I think some creepers out there do want to humiliate them in many ways. Much to much to discuss here.

As A2 says, if we think its not appropriate, report it and let him have the final say. Again, my opinion.

Live Monger out.[/QUOTE]Then maybe the rules should be changed to restrict what can be posted? If my intel can help a monger make a good decision, or prevent someone from being ripped off, or have a bad experience, then I'm glad to share what I know. It's all about us.

Sayonara.

[QUOTE=LiveMonger;4193506]I see what you are saying and apparently the Admin has a system set up for this. I don't believe that these gals personal info is anybody's business. They are providing a service, we are not marrying them! LOL I don't want to know all that information. Just my opinion! I find it all kind of creepy. I don't think we should be referring to their legal woes. Why humiliate the girls? Sadly though, I think some creepers out there do want to humiliate them in many ways. Much to much to discuss here.

As A2 says, if we think its not appropriate, report it and let him have the final say. Again, my opinion.

Live Monger out.[/QUOTE]I could post a lot of personal information about the girls I have seen through SA, but I don't. They are not as reckless as the SW & BP girls. If posting whether a girl is married or has a BF, or is a convicted thief is considered personal information, I don't see it that way. I see it as a safety issue, because you never know who is lurking behind that door that doesn't lock.

[QUOTE=LiveMonger;4193506]I see what you are saying and apparently the Admin has a system set up for this. I don't believe that these gals personal info is anybody's business. They are providing a service, we are not marrying them! LOL I don't want to know all that information. Just my opinion! I find it all kind of creepy. I don't think we should be referring to their legal woes. Why humiliate the girls? Sadly though, I think some creepers out there do want to humiliate them in many ways. Much to much to discuss here.

As A2 says, if we think its not appropriate, report it and let him have the final say. Again, my opinion.

Live Monger out.[/QUOTE]There have been two recent posts, one from Spinman and one from Jizman that give reasonable reasons to why and how the information is useful. If you don't get that or want to read it, then ignore it and don't fill up A2's mailbox with white knighting.

Those that don't do any research on these girls are the same that give their life savings to the scammers promising great return on their investment. Doing adequate research is essential in whatever your getting into that has the possibility to have a bad outcome. Doctors / lawyers / investments / these girls. These girls have many issues and run with people that are bad news. Knowing as much as possible is only a good thing for us. And if the girl posted anything on social media its public information.

[QUOTE=MidwestDude;4193831]There have been two recent posts, one from Spinman and one from Jizman that give reasonable reasons to why and how the information is useful. If you don't get that or want to read it, then ignore it and don't fill up A2's mailbox with white knighting.[/QUOTE]Not sure WTF you are referring too, but I've never pm'ed A2, and this thread, is where we express our opinions, so I did. It's not your place to scold me. Well, it is the right thread, but you apparently think you rule the roost. "You don't".

And if you read here and other threads, not everybody agrees with you and your buddies.

You don't have to get all up in arms and be accusatory because somebody disagrees.

This definitely falls in the category of bullshit.

I see that a person from Columbus who gained national fame a few years ago, and shares the same name as the Red Sox great "The Splendid Splinter" made an appearance on the MS web site.

First, this board is suppose to be about useful information. Let's get this out in the open! 99.9% of the gals have some form of habbit. They are not laying down with old guys for the fun of it. If they didn't have the habbit they wouldn't be sleeping with ya. Sure there is a unicorn or two out there. I personally haven't had q working girl that didn't have a habbit.

I like and I try my hardest to report my experience and in my opinion. We each have are own opinion has to what a trap house is, what a drug house is. To me they are pretty much similar. Some white knights out there get offended when you say there favorit girl doesn't look like her pics, didn't provide good service.

Your milage may very with all of these girls. Some guys like the 99 lbs spinner. Some guys like a little meat or shape to them. Some guys are okay with nasty hair, and hegiene. Some guys are okay with subpar service.

I have been mongering since 1990. I remember the newspaper days, pay phones and pagers. I want to know as much info as I can on any of the ladies. I report my opinions and my experiences truthfully. I have reported negativitelly on girls that had taken good care of me on previous dates.

I try and treat the ladies with respect but let's be realistic. They lay down with us for money. They want to get as much money as they can for the least amount of time and money. The biggest majority will cash and cash, steal and or steal from you if given the opportunity.

Let's stop the white knighting, taking offense because someone (weather or not senior or not senior)! I know what members and I share similar tastes to mine. I know what members are in my opinion not of similar taste to mine.

I love any and all information I can obtain. I'm not trying to be disreapectful to any of the working ladies. But let's call it what it is.

They have a habit, the sleep with many men for money. When and if they get clean they will not be laying down with any members here.

Stop whiteknighting each and every member is entitled to report as they see fit. Let's stop calling each other out. Report honestly and don't take a negative about what you think is your special lady. Again they wouldn't be laying down with ya if they had a job, a real life and didn't have a habbit.

In the last few months I have be assused of having pore eye sight, not liking a girl personally. First and formost I had my eye checked several weeks ago. I see 20 20 with my old glasses. I passed my eye tests with the bmv. I have be accused of not knowing what a trap house is. I know a trap a d or dope house is. What I consider is clean and beautiful is maybe not what someone else considers so.

Again, let's report what we experienced, get along, stop calling others out. It not negative about your white knights. Let's share good intelliagance and find some good pussy.

Thanks blue.

[QUOTE=LiveMonger;4193506]I see what you are saying and apparently the Admin has a system set up for this. I don't believe that these gals personal info is anybody's business. They are providing a service, we are not marrying them! LOL I don't want to know all that information. Just my opinion! I find it all kind of creepy. I don't think we should be referring to their legal woes. Why humiliate the girls? Sadly though, I think some creepers out there do want to humiliate them in many ways. Much to much to discuss here.

As A2 says, if we think its not appropriate, report it and let him have the final say. Again, my opinion.

Live Monger out.[/QUOTE]

[URL]http://columbus-ga.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/black_caribbean/food-hmu/763655258543[/URL]

Man cannot live on bread alone.

[QUOTE=MrBlue314;4193947]First, this board is suppose to be about useful information. Let's get this out in the open! 99.9% of the gals have some form of habbit. They are not laying down with old guys for the fun of it. If they didn't have the habbit they wouldn't be sleeping with ya. Sure there is a unicorn or two out there. I personally haven't had q working girl that didn't have a habbit.

I like and I try my hardest to report my experience and in my opinion. We each have are own opinion has to what a trap house is, what a drug house is. To me they are pretty much similar. Some white knights out there get offended when you say there favorit girl doesn't look like her pics, didn't provide good service.

Your milage may very with all of these girls. Some guys like the 99 lbs spinner. Some guys like a little meat or shape to them. Some guys are okay with nasty hair, and hegiene. Some guys are okay with subpar service.

I have been mongering since 1990. I remember the newspaper days, pay phones and pagers. I want to know as much info as I can on any of the ladies. I report my opinions and my experiences truthfully. I have reported negativitelly on girls that had taken good care of me on previous dates.

I try and treat the ladies with respect but let's be realistic. They lay down with us for money. They want to get as much money as they can for the least amount of time and money. The biggest majority will cash and cash, steal and or steal from you if given the opportunity.

Let's stop the white knighting, taking offense because someone (weather or not senior or not senior)! I know what members and I share similar tastes to mine. I know what members are in my opinion not of similar taste to mine.

I love any and all information I can obtain. I'm not trying to be disreapectful to any of the working ladies. But let's call it what it is.

They have a habit, the sleep with many men for money. When and if they get clean they will not be laying down with any members here.

Stop whiteknighting each and every member is entitled to report as they see fit. Let's stop calling each other out. Report honestly and don't take a negative about what you think is your special lady. Again they wouldn't be laying down with ya if they had a job, a real life and didn't have a habbit.

In the last few months I have be assused of having pore eye sight, not liking a girl personally. First and formost I had my eye checked several weeks ago. I see 20 20 with my old glasses. I passed my eye tests with the bmv. I have be accused of not knowing what a trap house is. I know a trap a d or dope house is. What I consider is clean and beautiful is maybe not what someone else considers so.

Again, let's report what we experienced, get along, stop calling others out. It not negative about your white knights. Let's share good intelliagance and find some good pussy.

Thanks blue.[/QUOTE]I don't post as much as I used to especially about certain unicorns. I had an OSU student and a female body builder whom I commented on and within hours of posting they called me bitching, don't blame them actually dropping me like I was the worst person in the world. I have NEVER shared with a provider what I have found here but some do. I don't know what you gain by telling them what you've seen but some do! I. That is all.

Usedtobedoctor.

I agree with you 100%. I've only posted on already reported on or the few ladies I have brought to the board (Kay was the last one) who really needed the cash. I had her permission to post and shared her number "off board" to trusted members.

Problem is then everyone started giving her number out like candy. So many white knights out there anymore that take offense when you say there girl doesn't work out of a drug house and or trap house.

Each of us have our opinions but to flat out call out an established member with many honest reports is just not in the "spirit of the board".

I call them like I see it. If they don't look like photo, are nasty, hair and hegine then it is what it is. Never see any white knighting on Blues reports. We each have our opinion as to what nasty is, what is a trap house.

If you (monger) think ya are special; forget it! These girls have a habbit and lay down, suck your dick for money. Plain and simple!

Ask you so called special girl to suck your dick for free and or half price. I bet 99.9% of the time they don't! Always an exception to the rule. Blue has had a few less than 5. Still have one in the stable that I can call and say I need some relief. She will gladly extend me some credit. But I treat her well and make it up to her later. Blue has even paid for a date and not actually had a date that night. Few and very far and few between.

Enough said.

[QUOTE=UsedToBeDoctor;4200905]I don't post as much as I used to especially about certain unicorns. I had an OSU student and a female body builder whom I commented on and within hours of posting they called me bitching, don't blame them actually dropping me like I was the worst person in the world. I have NEVER shared with a provider what I have found here but some do. I don't know what you gain by telling them what you've seen but some do! I. That is all.

Usedtobedoctor.[/QUOTE]

What's the deal with these girls placing ads saying they don't want money, just sex? I've seen quite a few lately. I'm assuming it's t set you up for a scam. Here is an example.

[URL]https://backpage.com.columbus.listcrawler.com/post/31251754/[/URL]

[QUOTE=CBus1234;4211758]What's the deal with these girls placing ads saying they don't want money, just sex? I've seen quite a few lately. I'm assuming it's t set you up for a scam. Here is an example.

[URL]https://backpage.com.columbus.listcrawler.com/post/31251754/[/URL][/QUOTE]Here's the way to avoid all the scammers and not have to sift through all the out of town area codes: Just put 614 in the search box and only girls advertising with local numbers will appear. However, there will still some scammers among them, but it will narrow it down significantly.

[QUOTE=CBus1234;4211758]What's the deal with these girls placing ads saying they don't want money, just sex? I've seen quite a few lately. I'm assuming it's t set you up for a scam. Here is an example.

[URL]https://backpage.com.columbus.listcrawler.com/post/31251754/[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes they are a scam. Just do an image search on the pix.

[QUOTE=JizMan;4211873]Here's the way to avoid all the scammers and not have to sift through all the out of town area codes: Just put 614 in the search box and only girls advertising with local numbers will appear. However, there will still some scammers among them, but it will narrow it down significantly.[/QUOTE]I also search under 740 ac to get the ones from outside 614.

For starters, for those of you who don't know, non-consensual condom removal, or "stealthing", is the practice of one sex partner (usually the guy) covertly removing a condom, when sexual consent has only been given by the other sex partner for condom-protected safer sex. In other countries like the UK and Switzerland, men have been convicted for sexual assault and rape for doing this underhanded shit. The US doesn't have laws established specifically for stealthing, but it can be considered "rape adjacent" or akin to rape.

Now I myself would never stoop so low as to pull some underhanded shit like this with any woman be they a provider, or GF, wife, etc. I've busted condoms and had them come off while in the throes of passion before, I'm usually good about noticing these things, and I've always either stopped the engagement myself, or stopped when the woman noticed it before I did to re-up with a new condom before going at it again. So imagine my surprise when I find out a provider stealthed me.

To give some brief context to the encounter, we got right into it from the moment I shut the front door of her incall. At first I though she was just trying to give a PSE type of performance, but I soon realized that she was honestly really into it. We start to go at it right there in the living room. She puts the condom on me with her mouth and then immediately hops on it for some CG without me even having to ask. She rides for a while, hops off, takes the condom off and sucks me some more. She then says she wants to take it to the bedroom, so she leads me by the cock to her bed and I throw on another condom and we got at it some more. She wasn't a clock watcher at all. In fact during our session she asked me if MSOG was OK. I hadn't even busted my first nut yet and she's asking me for seconds already. Having a povider ask me this, hell actually wanting this was totally unheard of to me in all my time of being in this hobby.

To make a long story short, I've got her in K9 position face down-ass up and I'm going to pound town on her. She likes it hard, fast, and deep, so I'm complying to her wishes. She was doing this thing where she'd reach back underneath and play with my balls. I tell her to keep doing that because I'm liking it, so she complies. In hindsight I'm guessing that it was around this time that she was able to remove the condom while I'm plugging away at her pussy. After some time I bust one of the most intense nuts that I've had in a long time while "wearing a condom" (I thought it was still on at this point). The fact that I hadn't had any sexual activity in like 3 weeks was also a contributing factor. Now I don't cum often when wearing a condom, I have but its few and far between. Couple that with my endurance (I think I'm related to the Energizer rabbit), and I usually just have a provider BBBJ and jerk me to completion when I feel the session is getting too close to the end. So I thought it a welcome surprise when it happened. That welcome surprise turned to horror when I pulled out and saw there was no condom on me.

I said: "WTF!? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CONDOM? She just nonchalantly says: "Oh, I pulled that off a few minutes ago. " "I do that when I get really into it. " She then sticks a couple fingers in her pussy and pulls out the rubber. I'm dumbfounded and speechless at this point that she was just so matter of fact about it. She says something else that I'm not going to repeat publicly on this board (PM me if you just have to know what she said) but what she said just added to how carefree she was about it all. She gave absolutely 0 fucks. I mean I know I dropped a big load in her; and she's not afraid of possibly getting pregnant? The whole time that I'm cleaning up and we're talking I'm just thinking "WTF? I leave soon after.

So IMO I consider stealthing as a form of rape even if US law isn't totally clear about it. But lets keep it real, US law is completely ass backwards about a lot of things so it's no surprise it would be about this. So was I raped? Yes I believe I was, because it would definitely be considered rape if the roles were reversed. Now I don't feel like its your typical garden variety rape, she didn't overpower me and force me to fuck her. She didn't violate me in that way. It's more of a violation of trust, and a violation of one's well being. Because now I have to get checked out which I didn't really have to do because I'm pretty careful about these things (honestly if you're in this hobby you should be doing this regularly).

Anyway my bad for the wall of text. TL; DR: A provider pulled my condom off without my knowledge while we were fucking, effectively stealthing me. I ended up giving her a creampie. She gave 0 fucks about the whole thing, and now I have to go to a clinic and get checked out.

[QUOTE=JonHangcok;4282837]

honestly if you're in this hobby you should be doing this regularly).

Anyway my bad for the wall of text. TL; DR: A provider pulled my condom off without my knowledge while we were fucking, effectively stealthing me. I ended up giving her a creampie. She gave 0 fucks about the whole thing, and now I have to go to a clinic and get checked out.[/QUOTE]Where does one go to get anonymous STD checks / treatment?

Can you post the girl's info or is she UTR?

[QUOTE=UberMonger;4282964]Where does one go to get anonymous STD checks / treatment?

Can you post the girl's info or is she UTR?[/QUOTE]5th and High Out of the Closet Thrift Store They provide some of the best information and STD checks. It's much better than going to the Franklin County health Department. I know you're thinking thrift store? But they operate the health clinic from the sales at the thrift shop as well as donations. Very professional very clean very good experience overall.

[URL]https://outofthecloset.org/testing/[/URL]

Jesus, pretty detailed an account for simply saying "a provider took my condom off during sex. " Looks more like you wanted us to proofread your letter to Penthouse. Weird flex, bro, but okay.

[QUOTE=JonHangcok;4282837]For starters, for those of you who don't know, non-consensual condom removal, or "stealthing", is the practice of one sex partner (usually the guy) covertly removing a condom, when sexual consent has only been given by the other sex partner for condom-protected safer sex. In other countries like the UK and Switzerland, men have been convicted for sexual assault and rape for doing this underhanded shit. The US doesn't have laws established specifically for stealthing, but it can be considered "rape adjacent" or akin to rape.

Now I myself would never stoop so low as to pull some underhanded shit like this with any woman be they a provider, or GF, wife, etc. I've busted condoms and had them come off while in the throes of passion before, I'm usually good about noticing these things, and I've always either stopped the engagement myself, or stopped when the woman noticed it before I did to re-up with a new condom before going at it again. So imagine my surprise when I find out a provider stealthed me.

To give some brief context to the encounter, we got right into it from the moment I shut the front door of her incall. At first I though she was just trying to give a PSE type of performance, but I soon realized that she was honestly really into it. We start to go at it right there in the living room. She puts the condom on me with her mouth and then immediately hops on it for some CG without me even having to ask. She rides for a while, hops off, takes the condom off and sucks me some more. She then says she wants to take it to the bedroom, so she leads me by the cock to her bed and I throw on another condom and we got at it some more. She wasn't a clock watcher at all. In fact during our session she asked me if MSOG was OK. I hadn't even busted my first nut yet and she's asking me for seconds already. Having a povider ask me this, hell actually wanting this was totally unheard of to me in all my time of being in this hobby.

To make a long story short, I've got her in K9 position face down-ass up and I'm going to pound town on her. She likes it hard, fast, and deep, so I'm complying to her wishes. She was doing this thing where she'd reach back underneath and play with my balls. I tell her to keep doing that because I'm liking it, so she complies. In hindsight I'm guessing that it was around this time that she was able to remove the condom while I'm plugging away at her pussy. After some time I bust one of the most intense nuts that I've had in a long time while "wearing a condom" (I thought it was still on at this point). The fact that I hadn't had any sexual activity in like 3 weeks was also a contributing factor. Now I don't cum often when wearing a condom, I have but its few and far between. Couple that with my endurance (I think I'm related to the Energizer rabbit), and I usually just have a provider BBBJ and jerk me to completion when I feel the session is getting too close to the end. So I thought it a welcome surprise when it happened. That welcome surprise turned to horror when I pulled out and saw there was no condom on me.

I said: "WTF!? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CONDOM? She just nonchalantly says: "Oh, I pulled that off a few minutes ago. " "I do that when I get really into it. " She then sticks a couple fingers in her pussy and pulls out the rubber. I'm dumbfounded and speechless at this point that she was just so matter of fact about it. She says something else that I'm not going to repeat publicly on this board (PM me if you just have to know what she said) but what she said just added to how carefree she was about it all. She gave absolutely 0 fucks. I mean I know I dropped a big load in her; and she's not afraid of possibly getting pregnant? The whole time that I'm cleaning up and we're talking I'm just thinking "WTF? I leave soon after.

So IMO I consider stealthing as a form of rape even if US law isn't totally clear about it. But lets keep it real, US law is completely ass backwards about a lot of things so it's no surprise it would be about this. So was I raped? Yes I believe I was, because it would definitely be considered rape if the roles were reversed. Now I don't feel like its your typical garden variety rape, she didn't overpower me and force me to fuck her. She didn't violate me in that way. It's more of a violation of trust, and a violation of one's well being. Because now I have to get checked out which I didn't really have to do because I'm pretty careful about these things (honestly if you're in this hobby you should be doing this regularly).

Anyway my bad for the wall of text. TL; DR: A provider pulled my condom off without my knowledge while we were fucking, effectively stealthing me. I ended up giving her a creampie. She gave 0 fucks about the whole thing, and now I have to go to a clinic and get checked out.[/QUOTE]

I have to redact my redaction. Them deleted my review AGAIN, this time for "any review that slams or denigrates a provider, nor will we post reviews that contain such derogatory terms such as ****, *****, **** or any other wording that we deem inappropriate or hurtful. " Really didn't put anything that harsh in it, certainly didn't use any derogatory language, it was simply a fair review, just a tad nicer than the one I posted here. It was fine for them before when they approved it, what suddenly changed? "Slams or denigrates" could loosely apply to any negative review. I've been exchanging emails with someone over there, I assume it's some kind of manager, he had said he thought my review was good. Nonetheless, someone there keeps deleting it, unless it's an automated kind of deal / button the provider can click on. He asked me to resubmit and said he would look into it. Not being bitchy or whiny about it, I'm just kind of curious about the process, and it's worth restating if it helps keep somebody else from getting scammed. Can't really afford to let this b. S. Fly on the high end, too much is lost without many places for reliable reviews, if we say this is ok then who knows what kinda crap they'll pull next. The way I see it, we pay for this not to happen, that's why it's high end.

On a separate but related note, I don't post or see as many high end reviews as I'd like to because there's always someone rolling their eyes over how much. I don't argue because A2 makes it generally clear that's not allowed, but it's discouraging. I and many others have our reasons for what we do, and I'm probably not going to spell it out for you because I talk too much as it is.

I have to redact my redaction. E. M. Deleted my review AGAIN, this time for "any review that slams or denigrates a provider, nor will we post reviews that contain such derogatory terms such as c**t, b* s**t or any other wording that we deem inappropriate or hurtful. " Really didn't put anything that harsh in it, certainly didn't use any derogatory language, it was simply a fair review, just a tad nicer than the one I posted here. It was fine for them before when they approved it, what suddenly changed? "Slams or denigrates" could loosely apply to any negative review. I've been exchanging emails with someone over there, I assume it's some kind of manager, he had said he thought my review was good. Nonetheless, someone there keeps deleting it, unless it's an automated kind of deal / button the provider can click on. He asked me to resubmit and said he would look into it. Not being bitchy or whiny about it, I'm just kind of curious about the process, and it's worth restating if it helps keep somebody else from getting scammed. Can't really afford to let this b. S. Fly on the high end, too much is lost without many places for reliable reviews, if we say this is ok then who knows what kinda crap they'll pull next. The way I see it, we pay for this not to happen, that's why it's high end.

On a separate but related note, I don't post or see as many high end reviews as I'd like to because there's always someone rolling their eyes over how much it is (read the thread topic, dude, if you don't like the topic, don't read it). I don't argue because A2 makes it generally clear that's not allowed, but it's discouraging. I and many others have our reasons for what we do, and I'm probably not going to spell it out for you because I talk too much as it is.

First of all E.M. is a provider centric site so this kind of behavior is not that uncommon. I feel that their stealing reviews is just another symptom of that bias. Post a good review from another site makes "their" women more desirable, increasing the woman's business and validating why the women need to be on E.M. to be successful.

USASG is the opposite, it is hobbyist centric. Men post all kinds of stuff about the women, but the women have no recourse to defend themselves without being lambasted about their post or labeled as having GPS.

There is no even ground. Other sites have men and women's only forums. In those men can post what they want openly. Women can discuss bad dates or warn other women about time wasters, unhygienic customers or just vent about BS posts about them.

One site that I use keeps the juicy part of reviews private to just to it's Senior male members. It allows for more truthful and informative posts. The women just see that they are or are not recommended. This site elevates men to their "Premium" level with reviews. That promotes the sharing of information and rewards those who post.

There is no perfect free escort site. I support all of them that are in my area of interest. That is all anyone can do. You just have to understand the limitations of their "personalities".

[QUOTE=ArtWater;4292196]I have to redact my redaction. E. M. Deleted my review AGAIN, this time for "any review that slams or denigrates a provider, nor will we post reviews that contain such derogatory terms such as c**t, b* s**t or any other wording that we deem inappropriate or hurtful. " Really didn't put anything that harsh in it, certainly didn't use any derogatory language, it was simply a fair review, just a tad nicer than the one I posted here. It was fine for them before when they approved it, what suddenly changed? "Slams or denigrates" could loosely apply to any negative review. I've been exchanging emails with someone over there, I assume it's some kind of manager, he had said he thought my review was good. Nonetheless, someone there keeps deleting it, unless it's an automated kind of deal / button the provider can click on. He asked me to resubmit and said he would look into it. Not being bitchy or whiny about it, I'm just kind of curious about the process, and it's worth restating if it helps keep somebody else from getting scammed. Can't really afford to let this b. S. Fly on the high end, too much is lost without many places for reliable reviews, if we say this is ok then who knows what kinda crap they'll pull next. The way I see it, we pay for this not to happen, that's why it's high end.

On a separate but related note, I don't post or see as many high end reviews as I'd like to because there's always someone rolling their eyes over how much it is (read the thread topic, dude, if you don't like the topic, don't read it). I don't argue because A2 makes it generally clear that's not allowed, but it's discouraging. I and many others have our reasons for what we do, and I'm probably not going to spell it out for you because I talk too much as it is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FlickerFly07;4287524]Jesus, pretty detailed an account for simply saying "a provider took my condom off during sex. " Looks more like you wanted us to proofread your letter to Penthouse. Weird flex, bro, but okay.[/QUOTE]If I needed a proofreader I wouldn't be coming on here for that. It was a unique experience that I thought was worth sharing on the board because I had never read any accounts or experiences on here quite like that. I thought context was needed for anyone reading who may not know the gravity of the situation I was in (sharing info is what this board is about) hence the lengthy writing. If "flexing" is all that you got out of that long ass post, well thats on you I guess. You missed the forest for the trees.

[QUOTE=JonHangcok;4292268]If I needed a proofreader I wouldn't be coming on here for that. It was a unique experience that I thought was worth sharing on the board because I had never read any accounts or experiences on here quite like that. I thought context was needed for anyone reading who may not know the gravity of the situation I was in (sharing info is what this board is about) hence the lengthy writing. If "flexing" is all that you got out of that long ass post, well thats on you I guess. You missed the forest for the trees.[/QUOTE]Jon. I appreciated your report. Don't change what you are doing. It was well written and informative.

[QUOTE=Cherny;4292328]Jon. I appreciated your report. Don't change what you are doing. It was well written and informative.[/QUOTE]I just wish I knew who she was, but giving that out isn't a good idea, some white night would be running to her and running his mouth, I learned a long time ago that happens way to much.

Johnhangcok has been a solid contributor for a long time, so even if I didn't care for the post, I wouldn't have said anything, he gets a pass in my book. It was a really good detailed report, as you said INFORMATIVE.

[QUOTE=JonHangcok;4282837]For starters, for those of you who don't know, non-consensual condom removal, or "stealthing", is the practice of one sex partner (usually the guy) covertly removing a condom, when sexual consent has only been given by the other sex partner for condom-protected safer sex. In other countries like the UK and Switzerland, men have been convicted for sexual assault and rape for doing this underhanded shit. The US doesn't have laws established specifically for stealthing, but it can be considered "rape adjacent" or akin to rape.

Now I myself would never stoop so low as to pull some underhanded shit like this with any woman be they a provider, or GF, wife, etc. I've busted condoms and had them come off while in the throes of passion before, I'm usually good about noticing these things, and I've always either stopped the engagement myself, or stopped when the woman noticed it before I did to re-up with a new condom before going at it again. So imagine my surprise when I find out a provider stealthed me.

To give some brief context to the encounter, we got right into it from the moment I shut the front door of her incall. At first I though she was just trying to give a PSE type of performance, but I soon realized that she was honestly really into it. We start to go at it right there in the living room. She puts the condom on me with her mouth and then immediately hops on it for some CG without me even having to ask. She rides for a while, hops off, takes the condom off and sucks me some more. She then says she wants to take it to the bedroom, so she leads me by the cock to her bed and I throw on another condom and we got at it some more. She wasn't a clock watcher at all. In fact during our session she asked me if MSOG was OK. I hadn't even busted my first nut yet and she's asking me for seconds already. Having a povider ask me this, hell actually wanting this was totally unheard of to me in all my time of being in this hobby.

To make a long story short, I've got her in K9 position face down-ass up and I'm going to pound town on her. She likes it hard, fast, and deep, so I'm complying to her wishes. She was doing this thing where she'd reach back underneath and play with my balls. I tell her to keep doing that because I'm liking it, so she complies. In hindsight I'm guessing that it was around this time that she was able to remove the condom while I'm plugging away at her pussy. After some time I bust one of the most intense nuts that I've had in a long time while "wearing a condom" (I thought it was still on at this point). The fact that I hadn't had any sexual activity in like 3 weeks was also a contributing factor. Now I don't cum often when wearing a condom, I have but its few and far between. Couple that with my endurance (I think I'm related to the Energizer rabbit), and I usually just have a provider BBBJ and jerk me to completion when I feel the session is getting too close to the end. So I thought it a welcome surprise when it happened. That welcome surprise turned to horror when I pulled out and saw there was no condom on me.

I said: "WTF!? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CONDOM? She just nonchalantly says: "Oh, I pulled that off a few minutes ago. " "I do that when I get really into it. " She then sticks a couple fingers in her pussy and pulls out the rubber. I'm dumbfounded and speechless at this point that she was just so matter of fact about it. She says something else that I'm not going to repeat publicly on this board (PM me if you just have to know what she said) but what she said just added to how carefree she was about it all. She gave absolutely 0 fucks. I mean I know I dropped a big load in her; and she's not afraid of possibly getting pregnant? The whole time that I'm cleaning up and we're talking I'm just thinking "WTF? I leave soon after.

So IMO I consider stealthing as a form of rape even if US law isn't totally clear about it. But lets keep it real, US law is completely ass backwards about a lot of things so it's no surprise it would be about this. So was I raped? Yes I believe I was, because it would definitely be considered rape if the roles were reversed. Now I don't feel like its your typical garden variety rape, she didn't overpower me and force me to fuck her. She didn't violate me in that way. It's more of a violation of trust, and a violation of one's well being. Because now I have to get checked out which I didn't really have to do because I'm pretty careful about these things (honestly if you're in this hobby you should be doing this regularly).

Anyway my bad for the wall of text. TL; DR: A provider pulled my condom off without my knowledge while we were fucking, effectively stealthing me. I ended up giving her a creampie. She gave 0 fucks about the whole thing, and now I have to go to a clinic and get checked out.[/QUOTE]If she pulled it off why was it inside her? Weird that she would just stash it there.

[QUOTE=Joelcmh;4292793]If she pulled it off why was it inside her? Weird that she would just stash it there.[/QUOTE]If I knew exactly how she did it, I would've told her to stop. My best guess is she unrolled it while simultaneously fondling my junk while I was pounding her all at the same time. The rubber comes off inside her, and since I'm still fucking her, it gets pushed up inside. Once again this is my best guess. I was too preoccupied with busting a nut so I wasn't paying full attention to everything she was doing. Plus I never thought a woman would pull some shit like that, so I never thought to look out for that sort of thing.

[QUOTE=Joelcmh;4292793]If she pulled it off why was it inside her? Weird that she would just stash it there.[/QUOTE]If I knew exactly how she did it, I would've told her to stop. My best guess is she unrolled it while simultaneously fondling my junk while I was pounding her all at the same time. The rubber comes off inside her, and since I'm thrusting up in her, it gets pushed up inside. Once again this is my best guess. I was too preoccupied with busting a nut so I wasn't paying full attention to everything she was doing. Plus I never thought a woman would pull some shit like that, so I never thought to look out for that sort of thing.

[QUOTE=JonHangcok;4302397]If I knew exactly how she did it, I would've told her to stop. My best guess is she unrolled it while simultaneously fondling my junk while I was pounding her all at the same time. The rubber comes off inside her, and since I'm thrusting up in her, it gets pushed up inside. Once again this is my best guess. I was too preoccupied with busting a nut so I wasn't paying full attention to everything she was doing. Plus I never thought a woman would pull some shit like that, so I never thought to look out for that sort of thing.[/QUOTE]The one time I saw Star / Nova she went straight from BJ to mounting me BB. It happened so fast I didn't even notice until I was already inside her. Felt so epic I just kept going, but didn't nut inside her. Never saw her again because it was a rush job. She even bragged she usually had her quick visits out the door in 15 and hhrs out the door in 20. She was naked before I had my shoes off.

[QUOTE=JonHangcok;4282837]

Anyway my bad for the wall of text. TL; DR: A provider pulled my condom off without my knowledge while we were fucking, effectively stealthing me. I ended up giving her a creampie. She gave 0 fucks about the whole thing, and now I have to go to a clinic and get checked out.[/QUOTE]Heads up if you are going to get tested by your regular doc or the county health clinic. You will be put on a "list" if you have something.

Good idea to use an anonymous way to get test like [URL]http://myprivatelabs.com[/URL]. You can sign up under a fake name online, they send you paperwork under that name that you take to a lab (and on the paper work it tells the lab to not ask for I'd), lab send the results back to your account online for you to look at.

I've been hobbying in different states for years but I'm new to this online forum stuff. I'm alarmed to find out so many of us are out here searching for methheads, aids patients, and the lowest forms of life for the cheapest and nastiest experience. I always get what I pay for but some of these reports are just depressing. We have to value our health more. The more we pay junkies, the more junkies think it's a good idea to start selling their hot steamy junk. Driving down prices just runs off the quality girls. They go to different cities once they figure out what's going on. That's why we can't keep quality pussy.

[QUOTE=StrokeHer;4307909]I've been hobbying in different states for years but I'm new to this online forum stuff. I'm alarmed to find out so many of us are out here searching for methheads, aids patients, and the lowest forms of life for the cheapest and nastiest experience. I always get what I pay for but some of these reports are just depressing. We have to value our health more. The more we pay junkies, the more junkies think it's a good idea to start selling their hot steamy junk. Driving down prices just runs off the quality girls. They go to different cities once they figure out what's going on. That's why we can't keep quality pussy.[/QUOTE]That is bull. You don't always get what you pay for. I've had absolute blasts with females that are 80/ hh and lame times with a couple twice that amount. There are guys here that have spent 250-400 and had great crap times. Price absolutely doesn't guarantee quality. Quality chicks can be had at a lower rate; admittedly there aren't many around because generally those females have a lot to lose if they get busted so many of them don't take the chance like they used to.

[QUOTE=MidwestDude;4308458]That is bull. You don't always get what you pay for. I've had absolute blasts with females that are 80/ hh and lame times with a couple twice that amount. There are guys here that have spent 250-400 and had great crap times. Price absolutely doesn't guarantee quality. Quality chicks can be had at a lower rate; admittedly there aren't many around because generally those females have a lot to lose if they get busted so many of them don't take the chance like they used to.[/QUOTE]I wasn't talking about rumours or what I heard, I was talking about myself. What one person describes as "a crap time" isn't the same for someone else. A lot of these reports are just people's thoughts and opinions not facts. Some guys fantasies are strippers and professionals and some are just looking to prey on a mentally ill chic in the worst times of her life to cum in her for thirty bucks.

[QUOTE=StrokeHer;4308616]I wasn't talking about rumours or what I heard, I was talking about myself. What one person describes as "a crap time" isn't the same for someone else. A lot of these reports are just people's thoughts and opinions not facts. Some guys fantasies are strippers and professionals and some are just looking to prey on a mentally ill chic in the worst times of her life to cum in her for thirty bucks.[/QUOTE]You were projecting. And by the sound of your response, judging and white knighting.

[QUOTE=MidwestDude;4308458]That is bull. You don't always get what you pay for. I've had absolute blasts with females that are 80/ hh and lame times with a couple twice that amount. There are guys here that have spent 250-400 and had great crap times. Price absolutely doesn't guarantee quality. Quality chicks can be had at a lower rate; admittedly there aren't many around because generally those females have a lot to lose if they get busted so many of them don't take the chance like they used to.[/QUOTE]I agree with some of what you say, but I disagree as well. I negotiate. I am very vocal about what I want and expect, then add in the tip factor, which usually brings the rain. However there are girls out there who are just fun, and you get lucky and escape with paying a small amount. Each girl is different.

White Knights on the other hand. Ugh! They just throw money at them and the girls take advantage of such chumps.

[QUOTE=LogJammin18;4303871]Heads up if you are going to get tested by your regular doc or the county health clinic. You will be put on a "list" if you have something.

Good idea to use an anonymous way to get test like [URL]http://myprivatelabs.com[/URL]. You can sign up under a fake name online, they send you paperwork under that name that you take to a lab (and on the paper work it tells the lab to not ask for I'd), lab send the results back to your account online for you to look at.[/QUOTE]HIPA protects your information from being shared. I have been treated by my doctor and urgent cares. With my insurance. There is no list that I'm aware of. Please provide details if such a list exists and how it circumvents HIPA.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=LiveMonger;4309767]HIPA protects your information from being shared. I have been treated by my doctor and urgent cares. With my insurance. There is no list that I'm aware of. Please provide details if such a list exists and how it circumvents HIPA.

Thanks![/QUOTE]From the CDC: ".

Involuntary partner notification.

In the past, the CDC has recommended that physicians and health departments should inform the sexual partners of people known to be infected with certain STDs including HIV of their risk for contracting the disease when the diagnosed individual refused to do so. However, the CDC currently recommends that all partner services, including partner notification, should be "voluntary and non-coercive" for both the individual initially diagnosed with the STD and their sexual partners. Despite the change, as of 1998, several states in the US have laws that codify involuntary or coercive partner notification. In most states, individuals who test positive for HIV are legally obligated to notify past sexual contacts. In Texas and other states, doctors and public health officials are either required or authorized to inform known sexual contacts of patients who have tested positive for HIV and other STDs".

But, using [URL]http://myprivatelabs.com[/URL] will allow you to get tested without using your real name, address etc. Only way around it.

How many of these females do why'all think do this (besides the obvious reasons) because they love sex and are sex addicts and love the idea of getting off and getting guys off?

[QUOTE=MidwestDude;4313967]How many of these females do why'all think do this (besides the obvious reasons) because they love sex and are sex addicts and love the idea of getting off and getting guys off?[/QUOTE]Since you ask and I have been in the hobby for, I hate to say, decades. While I'm sure somewhere, somehow, there are providers that do this because they are sex addicts and like getting guys off. But in todays world, I'm going to say that percentage is pretty much zero. Now you're going get guys come on here right now and say they know this provider or that provider that does it because she really likes it and gets off from it. Well its bullshit. While there might be providers that don't mind it so far, they still have real reasons. You can pretty much say all street walkers are doing it for drugs. Any other reason would be extremely rare. The non street walker types too most of the times, are doing it to support a drug habit. There are exceptions of course and those that are the exception a lot of times are recovering but still need the income. And then there are those that are doing it strictly for the money and can't make the kind of money they are making doing a "legit" job. Usually to raise a kid or just themselves maybe. There are a lot of providers that have legit jobs but need the easy extra income. But if you're searching and wanting to believe, like a lot of mongers here, that the girl "loves" what she is doing and she "really gets off from it" then you're kidding yourself. This hobby is rarely the provider's choice of profession and would rather do this than anything. Its almost always a profession choice born out of necessity. A lot of providers are good actors, and say they love it, but if they really didn't need to do it, wouldn't. So keep looking for that one in a million that truly loves it.

[QUOTE=MidwestDude;4313967]How many of these females do why'all think do this (besides the obvious reasons) because they love sex and are sex addicts and love the idea of getting off and getting guys off?[/QUOTE]I'd say it's roughly comparable to the ratio of men who have walked on the moon and everyone else.