Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

[QUOTE=NightMove;4238709]Random thoughts: What do fellow hobbyist usually prefer. If you're in a position to host, do you usually go that route? Why or why not?

I'd love to be able to look at places in my location and remember the deeds I've done there but, all things considered, this business is all about the money and would hate to be set up for a home invasion (I always go to worst common denominator. I'm not loaded but I really like my TV and PS4 would rather keep those here).[/QUOTE]I'm an incall kind of guy. In addition to protecting your anonymity, where the location is can tell you a lot of about the sex worker. I've had a couple come to a hotel room but that's kind of dicey since again you're giving your personal details to the hotel. I've seen a couple of outcall only chicks who have been willing to use their I'd to get the room.

I guess I equate it all to the same amount of strangers I'd met off Tinder / etc and had back over to my place. I think the same when I'm invited over to someone's home barely after knwoibf them: is this a set up? How do they know if I am or not? Shit like that. Except, as you all mentioned, illegal and, assumedly, with more nefarious ideals.

I kept it to a hotel away from the never visit streets I don't trust like capital / saunders / etc, same skepticism I would show to meeting anyone, hahah.

[QUOTE=NightMove;4238709]Random thoughts: What do fellow hobbyist usually prefer. If you're in a position to host, do you usually go that route? Why or why not?

I'd love to be able to look at places in my location and remember the deeds I've done there but, all things considered, this business is all about the money and would hate to be set up for a home invasion (I always go to worst common denominator. I'm not loaded but I really like my TV and PS4 would rather keep those here).[/QUOTE]This is not like having an installation done in your home by Lowe's. Your inviting a ho and all her history into your home. Maybe she's good. But maybe she's not. Or she's good but then she gets mad at you. Or she inadvertently mentions your 50" flat screen in a convo to one of her associates. No way never invite strange ho into your home. SB or an escort you've established a relationship MIGHT be ok. Personally. I would never do it.

[QUOTE=NightMove;4241529]I guess I equate it all to the same amount of strangers I'd met off Tinder / etc and had back over to my place. I think the same when I'm invited over to someone's home barely after knwoibf them: is this a set up? How do they know if I am or not? Shit like that. Except, as you all mentioned, illegal and, assumedly, with more nefarious ideals.

I kept it to a hotel away from the never visit streets I don't trust like capital / saunders / etc, same skepticism I would show to meeting anyone, hahah.[/QUOTE]I'd say that at least in the US the chances of someone from Tinder coming over to rob you are considerably less than a hooker coming over to rob you or worse. Either way it's a risk so buyer beware.

How does someone get the senior member rating if they don't know how to search for a girl?

At least I am assuming they don't know how. Or maybe they are just too lazy to look them up? Easier to ask then search?.

[QUOTE=NooneAtal;4255031]How does someone get the senior member rating if they don't know how to search for a girl?

At least I am assuming they don't know how. Or maybe they are just too lazy to look them up? Easier to ask then search?.[/QUOTE]Probably lots of posts asking for info about girls.

Ang not Meth! You know one from the hill? Did a Pornhub search Raleigh, NC browse adult bookstores most recent took awhile to navigate, who the hell is Silk? Dude was killing that pus**why. Then thar she blows, glory be the star in living color, cleaning some dudes pipe. It was a bbbjw hold it in walk fast to spit. Amen to the girls of Hill!

Numerous times I have taken a "bad review" of a girl on here as my personal conquest. I have to say only once did I get the results that were posted on here and that was because I went at night and she was cracked out already. I enjoy contacting these women after you guys have trashed her on here. I'm not going to say who these women are but I will say that its been a lot of them from a lot of different mongers over a long period of time. My approach is always what I call "the southern gentleman. " Hello. How are you? Yes Ma'am'. No ma'am Please. Thank you. Your very sexy. Pretty. I like your look. You seem nice. And eventually they come around and the subject of your bad review comes up. I don't cast doubt or throw out names or even participate in her monger bashing. Again with the southern gentleman. Sorry that happened to you. That must be frustrating. Contention sucks. And by the time we are done talking I am on my way to what for the most part, other than that one is a decent session. In fact I usually hear I wish more men were like you. So apparently why'all are hookin me up with some great sessions and didn't even know it! I guess it could be called "make up sex" LOL I've said it before gentlemen. If you treat these women with respect you'll get better results than if your going in to pound one out attitude. Just like you these women are checking you out on the first visit. Very seldom is my 5th visit the same as my 1st. In fact with the southern gentleman approach sometimes I see a complete transformation happen right before my eyes on the first visit. Thats rare tho. Very rare. So in summation, I will continue to get good sex from these women that why'all have pissed off. In all fairness now and as a disclaimer this is not the case with all of them. Sometimes I'll text and they are so wound up over the instance they can't see straight. Then I know its time to move on. So maybe that's why when I hear why'all say this market sucks I'm like... Really? I have pretty good luck. Especially in Fayettevile. This post is not meant to call anyone out or offend anyone. We all do what we think is best. Food for thought gents. Food for thought. BTW- the "southern gentleman" approach with an added smile and wink in public will get you free pussy. Guaranteed.

[QUOTE=BallAllDay;4257827]Numerous times I have taken a "bad review" of a girl on here as my personal conquest. I have to say only once did I get the results that were posted on here and that was because I went at night and she was cracked out already. I enjoy contacting these women after you guys have trashed her on here. I'm not going to say who these women are but I will say that its been a lot of them from a lot of different mongers over a long period of time. My approach is always what I call "the southern gentleman. " Hello. How are you? Yes Ma'am'. No ma'am Please. Thank you. Your very sexy. Pretty. I like your look. You seem nice. And eventually they come around and the subject of your bad review comes up. I don't cast doubt or throw out names or even participate in her monger bashing. Again with the southern gentleman. Sorry that happened to you. That must be frustrating. Contention sucks. And by the time we are done talking I am on my way to what for the most part, other than that one is a decent session. In fact I usually hear I wish more men were like you. So apparently why'all are hookin me up with some great sessions and didn't even know it! I guess it could be called "make up sex" LOL I've said it before gentlemen. If you treat these women with respect you'll get better results than if your going in to pound one out attitude. Just like you these women are checking you out on the first visit. Very seldom is my 5th visit the same as my 1st. In fact with the southern gentleman approach sometimes I see a complete transformation happen right before my eyes on the first visit. Thats rare tho. Very rare. So in summation, I will continue to get good sex from these women that why'all have pissed off. In all fairness now and as a disclaimer this is not the case with all of them. Sometimes I'll text and they are so wound up over the instance they can't see straight. Then I know its time to move on. So maybe that's why when I hear why'all say this market sucks I'm like... Really? I have pretty good luck. Especially in Fayettevile. This post is not meant to call anyone out or offend anyone. We all do what we think is best. Food for thought gents. Food for thought. BTW- the "southern gentleman" approach with an added smile and wink in public will get you free pussy. Guaranteed.[/QUOTE]Your post is a good insight as to how a certain individual handles a first time visit and others to follow. If you think about it the provider and the dude have the same game plan he wants service she wants cash. That said there are generally a few types of providers and dudes 1. Rules rules rules, 2. Nervous, 3. Aggressive, 4. Negotiator (cheap or haggling for more), 5. Relax just want to have fun. Now the trick is to find a match. I agree showing some respect is a good place to start. Because that will give you an idea which way she will go. Find the opposite of what one of you wants = a shitty review. It's all a crap shoot if there are no reviews to weed out the what ifs. Then there are if she has demons whole new subject. Agree Showing some respect though may surprise you.

So there was a provider who had her issues with daemons. Apparently she found a sugar daddy and stopped tricking. Not long after retiring, ads started popping up indicating that she was doing fetish only sessions (no sex). Shortly after that occasionally straight up "escort" ads were appearing. Anyways, she got arrested lately and like most arrest reports an address was listed for her. With little effort you can find out a lot about an address. The address listed was a nice house in Raleigh and some quick googling indicates that it's owned by a guy who is a pretty high up sales manager at one of the largest tech companies in the area. This is a dude with a 20+ year career whose address is now associated with a chick who has heroin and other arrests on her record. If he's divorced with kids, he's now potentially more fucked. If he has a competitor at work who will drag his name through mud he's potentially more fucked. There's tons of ways for this guy to eventually get screwed by this.

Stay in the game long enough and you'll have a favorite. Stay in long enough and you'll find a chick you want to save with every fiber of your being. I won't say to do it or not do it but I will say that unless these chicks are willing to save themselves, you can't do it.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;4261326]So there was a provider who had her issues with daemons. Apparently she found a sugar daddy and stopped tricking. Not long after retiring, ads started popping up indicating that she was doing fetish only sessions (no sex). Shortly after that occasionally straight up "escort" ads were appearing. Anyways, she got arrested lately and like most arrest reports an address was listed for her. With little effort you can find out a lot about an address. The address listed was a nice house in Raleigh and some quick googling indicates that it's owned by a guy who is a pretty high up sales manager at one of the largest tech companies in the area. This is a dude with a 20+ year career whose address is now associated with a chick who has heroin and other arrests on her record. If he's divorced with kids, he's now potentially more fucked. If he has a competitor at work who will drag his name through mud he's potentially more fucked. There's tons of ways for this guy to eventually get screwed by this.

Stay in the game long enough and you'll have a favorite. Stay in long enough and you'll find a chick you want to save with every fiber of your being. I won't say to do it or not do it but I will say that unless these chicks are willing to save themselves, you can't do it.[/QUOTE]Hoe-Lee-Shit. I didn't dive that far into the rabbit hole but what a web we weave. Not only that, "daddy" has an arrest so his picture is public record. For the curious there's more than enough information in recent posts if you're internet sharp to figure this out. Please don't ask us to break the rules.

Oh, and to the guys who STILL insist on keeping these ladies in business who want your selfie or copy of license take note. This could be you.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;4261326]So there was a provider who had her issues with daemons. Apparently she found a sugar daddy and stopped tricking. Not long after retiring, ads started popping up indicating that she was doing fetish only sessions (no sex). Shortly after that occasionally straight up "escort" ads were appearing. Anyways, she got arrested lately and like most arrest reports an address was listed for her. With little effort you can find out a lot about an address. The address listed was a nice house in Raleigh and some quick googling indicates that it's owned by a guy who is a pretty high up sales manager at one of the largest tech companies in the area. This is a dude with a 20+ year career whose address is now associated with a chick who has heroin and other arrests on her record. If he's divorced with kids, he's now potentially more fucked. If he has a competitor at work who will drag his name through mud he's potentially more fucked. There's tons of ways for this guy to eventually get screwed by this.

Stay in the game long enough and you'll have a favorite. Stay in long enough and you'll find a chick you want to save with every fiber of your being. I won't say to do it or not do it but I will say that unless these chicks are willing to save themselves, you can't do it.[/QUOTE]I want to say that he must not have been supplying enough sugar. Why else would she have went back to work?. But yeah with today's internet it is hard to stay anonymous when the people you hang out with are not discreet.

Well, that dude in question is every bit as fucked up as she is. Look at the Raleigh arrest portals and put his name in. He was already arrested a while back for firing a gun in his house. At her. If firing a gun in your house at a hooker isn't going to cost you your executive sales job you are probably golden. She also posts his name on her instagram and they are listed as a couple on facebook. I'm pretty sure zero fucks are given.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;4261326]So there was a provider who had her issues with daemons. Apparently she found a sugar daddy and stopped tricking. Not long after retiring, ads started popping up indicating that she was doing fetish only sessions (no sex). Shortly after that occasionally straight up "escort" ads were appearing. Anyways, she got arrested lately and like most arrest reports an address was listed for her. With little effort you can find out a lot about an address. The address listed was a nice house in Raleigh and some quick googling indicates that it's owned by a guy who is a pretty high up sales manager at one of the largest tech companies in the area. This is a dude with a 20+ year career whose address is now associated with a chick who has heroin and other arrests on her record. If he's divorced with kids, he's now potentially more fucked. If he has a competitor at work who will drag his name through mud he's potentially more fucked. There's tons of ways for this guy to eventually get screwed by this.

Stay in the game long enough and you'll have a favorite. Stay in long enough and you'll find a chick you want to save with every fiber of your being. I won't say to do it or not do it but I will say that unless these chicks are willing to save themselves, you can't do it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LookinGood;4261483]Hoe-Lee-Shit. I didn't dive that far into the rabbit hole but what a web we weave. Not only that, "daddy" has an arrest so his picture is public record. For the curious there's more than enough information in recent posts if you're internet sharp to figure this out. Please don't ask us to break the rules.

Oh, and to the guys who STILL insist on keeping these ladies in business who want your selfie or copy of license take note. This could be you.[/QUOTE]Wow I didn't even search him. Now I'm wondring if I picked the right guy on linkedin and what the story was. I think I'm going to have to spend some time working on getting good at internet sleuthing.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;4262754]Wow I didn't even search him. Now I'm wondring if I picked the right guy on linkedin and what the story was. I think I'm going to have to spend some time working on getting good at internet sleuthing.[/QUOTE]You got the right guy. I'm sure of it.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;4261326]So there was a provider who had her issues with daemons. Apparently she found a sugar daddy and stopped tricking. Not long after retiring, ads started popping up indicating that she was doing fetish only sessions (no sex). Shortly after that occasionally straight up "escort" ads were appearing. Anyways, she got arrested lately and like most arrest reports an address was listed for her. With little effort you can find out a lot about an address. The address listed was a nice house in Raleigh and some quick googling indicates that it's owned by a guy who is a pretty high up sales manager at one of the largest tech companies in the area. This is a dude with a 20+ year career whose address is now associated with a chick who has heroin and other arrests on her record. If he's divorced with kids, he's now potentially more fucked. If he has a competitor at work who will drag his name through mud he's potentially more fucked. There's tons of ways for this guy to eventually get screwed by this.

Stay in the game long enough and you'll have a favorite. Stay in long enough and you'll find a chick you want to save with every fiber of your being. I won't say to do it or not do it but I will say that unless these chicks are willing to save themselves, you can't do it.[/QUOTE]Just my opinion but I bet he was more concerned with hitting it daily than saving her.

Her FTA was for a bad check about two weeks before he took a shot at her. Sounds like she wanted or needed more money, or maybe he cut back on the sugar?

A good example of why not to look for a live in on backpage or the like.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;4261326]So there was a provider who had her issues with daemons. Apparently she found a sugar daddy and stopped tricking. Not long after retiring, ads started popping up indicating that she was doing fetish only sessions (no sex). Shortly after that occasionally straight up "escort" ads were appearing. Anyways, she got arrested lately and like most arrest reports an address was listed for her. With little effort you can find out a lot about an address. The address listed was a nice house in Raleigh and some quick googling indicates that it's owned by a guy who is a pretty high up sales manager at one of the largest tech companies in the area. This is a dude with a 20+ year career whose address is now associated with a chick who has heroin and other arrests on her record. If he's divorced with kids, he's now potentially more fucked. If he has a competitor at work who will drag his name through mud he's potentially more fucked. There's tons of ways for this guy to eventually get screwed by this.

Stay in the game long enough and you'll have a favorite. Stay in long enough and you'll find a chick you want to save with every fiber of your being. I won't say to do it or not do it but I will say that unless these chicks are willing to save themselves, you can't do it.[/QUOTE]My 2 cents is, Outside of this game in a let's call it normal relationship with dating, living together or marriage IMO there's a 50 50 chance you will stay together until one of you dies. For an average Joe to find a girl providing services and they both fall madly in love and she leaves the business 100%. I'd put it in the 25% range. If she stays in the business IMO that 25% drops even lower. For them to stay together until one of them dies humm man it's possible but there's a lot of baggage to bury or deal with. And if there are friends or family pressures / questions such as how did you two meet or worse a friend or relative once paid for her services. A "normal" relationship is tough enough. Trying to make a sugar daddy / Monger / provider relationship work is twice as hard, but possible. And this is coming from someone that has an Asian girlfriend that's been in the business since 2013 which is when we actually met and fell madly in love with one another lol. That I might add most of you have probably met somewhere in Raleigh, Durham, Cary, Winston Salem, Goldsboro, Fayetteville. We are doing just fine. Oh and I'm not her surgar daddy she's independently wealthy. Love. It's a mutha fucka.

[QUOTE=XHippie;4263910]My 2 cents is, Outside of this game in a let's call it normal relationship with dating, living together or marriage IMO there's a 50 50 chance you will stay together until one of you dies. For an average Joe to find a girl providing services and they both fall madly in love and she leaves the business 100%. I'd put it in the 25% range. If she stays in the business IMO that 25% drops even lower. For them to stay together until one of them dies humm man it's possible but there's a lot of baggage to bury or deal with. And if there are friends or family pressures / questions such as how did you two meet or worse a friend or relative once paid for her services. A "normal" relationship is tough enough. Trying to make a sugar daddy / Monger / provider relationship work is twice as hard, but possible. And this is coming from someone that has an Asian girlfriend that's been in the business since 2013 which is when we actually met and fell madly in love with one another lol. That I might add most of you have probably met somewhere in Raleigh, Durham, Cary, Winston Salem, Goldsboro, Fayetteville. We are doing just fine. Oh and I'm not her surgar daddy she's independently wealthy. Love. It's a mutha fucka.[/QUOTE]Congratulations! Seems like you found a keeper. Were you a customer of hers? Is she still in the business of seeing Johns? If so, can you share? Are you OK with that? Does she know you still partake in the hobby. Lots of unanswered questions after reading this post. Please post again giving us some details. Thanks.

If you are talking about death by natural causes, your numbers make sense. But prostitution has the highest risk of death of any primarily female professional, so the percentage of couples with the girl continuing to play for pay until one dies may actually be higher because her life expectancy is much lower.

Med.

[QUOTE=XHippie;4263910]My 2 cents is, Outside of this game in a let's call it normal relationship with dating, living together or marriage IMO there's a 50 50 chance you will stay together until one of you dies. For an average Joe to find a girl providing services and they both fall madly in love and she leaves the business 100%. I'd put it in the 25% range. If she stays in the business IMO that 25% drops even lower. For them to stay together until one of them dies humm man it's possible but there's a lot of baggage to bury or deal with. And if there are friends or family pressures / questions such as how did you two meet or worse a friend or relative once paid for her services. A "normal" relationship is tough enough. Trying to make a sugar daddy / Monger / provider relationship work is twice as hard, but possible. And this is coming from someone that has an Asian girlfriend that's been in the business since 2013 which is when we actually met and fell madly in love with one another lol. That I might add most of you have probably met somewhere in Raleigh, Durham, Cary, Winston Salem, Goldsboro, Fayetteville. We are doing just fine. Oh and I'm not her surgar daddy she's independently wealthy. Love. It's a mutha fucka.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MedJohnson;4264117]If you are talking about death by natural causes, your numbers make sense. But prostitution has the highest risk of death of any primarily female professional, so the percentage of couples with the girl continuing to play for pay until one dies may actually be higher because her life expectancy is much lower.

Med.[/QUOTE]And it even speeds up if there are demons involved.

I can agree with xhippie on some of what he said. The girl that I'm dating now that I'm in love with and she is in love with me, yes she is and is not pulling any bullshit, she was a provider at one point, that's how I met her. I was one of her clients. She had some rough shit happen to her with a few of her exes and the demons came calling. She has been demon free for over 2 years now, hell I had my demons and its going on 19 years clean for me, but me and her started seeing each other as a sugar daddy type thing and about 2 months in she started to give the money back. Some of these women get into this business as a way to survive and the stress and psychological toll it takes on them is why alot of the times the demons take hold. I have personally known a few providers outside of the hobby and I have heard the same type of story from most of them. That the demons help them cope with what they are doing just to survive, and so starts the viscous cycle of feeding the demons to be able to survive, but unfortunately most of the times the demons have a stronger grip and are in control most of the time. As for my girlfriend, I got out of the hobby because of her. I want to stay faithful to her and she has been to me. She has changed some of my views on life, relationships, and the general outlook on life. She has told me repeatedly that I have done the same for her and I have seen her change in the almost 2 years that I have been dating her. And before any of you ask no she won't see anybody as she is out of the hobby and so am I. I just vome on here to read the shit that gets spewed out of peoples mouth. Hell I might even marry her. These women are people and humans and most of them if you treat them as such will treat you alot better.

[QUOTE=DisturbedOne;4264879]I can agree with xhippie on some of what he said. The girl that I'm dating now that I'm in love with and she is in love with me, yes she is and is not pulling any bullshit, she was a provider at one point, that's how I met her. I was one of her clients. She had some rough shit happen to her with a few of her exes and the demons came calling. She has been demon free for over 2 years now, hell I had my demons and its going on 19 years clean for me, but me and her started seeing each other as a sugar daddy type thing and about 2 months in she started to give the money back. Some of these women get into this business as a way to survive and the stress and psychological toll it takes on them is why alot of the times the demons take hold. I have personally known a few providers outside of the hobby and I have heard the same type of story from most of them. That the demons help them cope with what they are doing just to survive, and so starts the viscous cycle of feeding the demons to be able to survive, but unfortunately most of the times the demons have a stronger grip and are in control most of the time. As for my girlfriend, I got out of the hobby because of her. I want to stay faithful to her and she has been to me. She has changed some of my views on life, relationships, and the general outlook on life. She has told me repeatedly that I have done the same for her and I have seen her change in the almost 2 years that I have been dating her. And before any of you ask no she won't see anybody as she is out of the hobby and so am I. I just vome on here to read the shit that gets spewed out of peoples mouth. Hell I might even marry her. These women are people and humans and most of them if you treat them as such will treat you alot better.[/QUOTE]Although this is a great site for finding pussy there are those that just browse and are not or no longer in the game. And absolutely if a girl is or was a provider that doesn't brand her for life or the monger for that matter. People leave and enter this game for whatever reason. Strip clubs, adult book stores, escort, massage, SW choose your interest. So absolutely new relationships and life styles can change if the individuals choose too. As I said earlier as we go through life and collect our baggage it makes it just a little tougher to make it through the day or make relationships work, it's not a right or wrong thing it's just life period. Make choices to be happy, healthy, have fun and treat people with respect the relationships will workout ok and the pussy will be a lot easier to find. I mean after all this is a pussy site and what we are talking about, right?

So to kill time and 2 Share memories. Rolling and thinking down the road remembering the first hobby experience was Prego telling me to slow down back in the day in Fayetteville. There's a lot of blurs after that but some of the great experiences with Maria in Southern Pines to this day is this Pinnacle of experiences with just a single female. There's the times where there was two females and just me that were always fun but there's something about doing that with providers that just doesn't have the same pull as it is when it happens for real. But two guys and a girl with Brandy fine back in the day was a hell of a blast done it a couple of times since and always looking to do it again but damn if it won't beat the first time. The rodeo fun I've had with so many individual providers the days with Val, Honey, or Bailey, the first time I saw and experienced a woman squirt with Gina se had GGG size tits back in the day. Learning the dominatrix game and having all sorts of fun with a Dom who has since retired however these memories are just that memories look forward to making more I've done many reviews in the past but again just a little ditty thinking about some of the experiences.

Happy hunting why'all.

[QUOTE=XHippie;4264950]Although this is a great site for finding pussy there are those that just browse and are not or no longer in the game. And absolutely if a girl is or was a provider that doesn't brand her for life or the monger for that matter. People leave and enter this game for whatever reason. Strip clubs, adult book stores, escort, massage, SW choose your interest. So absolutely new relationships and life styles can change if the individuals choose too. As I said earlier as we go through life and collect our baggage it makes it just a little tougher to make it through the day or make relationships work, it's not a right or wrong thing it's just life period. Make choices to be happy, healthy, have fun and treat people with respect the relationships will workout ok and the pussy will be a lot easier to find. I mean after all this is a pussy site and what we are talking about, right?[/QUOTE]That is what this site is about. I'm out of the hobby. I just pop in because this site is morw entertainment then anything else. Whatever hasnt killed me in this life made me stronger. Just reading some of the way some members treat providers though is disheartening. But to each their own. All I know is that I'm a happy man with my girlfriend.

[QUOTE=DisturbedOne;4265164]That is what this site is about. I'm out of the hobby. I just pop in because this site is morw entertainment then anything else. Whatever hasnt killed me in this life made me stronger. Just reading some of the way some members treat providers though is disheartening. But to each their own. All I know is that I'm a happy man with my girlfriend.[/QUOTE]Yeah I'm pretty sure I know the recent post you're speaking of. Unless they advertise and offer that sort of thing, damn. After an experience like that any wonder a lot of providers initially act like they hate to be contacted by someone new?

Found videos of a known provider in the Raleigh area on PornHub. No big deal but as I searched found some of her online dates from POF, Tinder filmed in a hotel room from the moment the guy walked into the room until he left. It was a hidden camera so he had no clue he was being filmed. Also there was someone else involved who was a lookout and would let the lady know when he arrived in the hallway as soon as he left her helper was at the door and entered as off went the tape. Not just a one time deal but multiple locations different John was his time. Anyone looking can stumble onto this and easily recognize the John. As I have expanded the search there are 100's of videos for and. C. Easily used against an individual. But I highly doubt. Entertainment purposes only I'm sure 😎 high quality videos shot at our favorite ABS, strip clubs, famous SW streets thru out the Carolina's. Real live reviews! Technology is awesome! Please no PM's.

[QUOTE=Bb211;4267336]Found videos of a known provider in the Raleigh area on PornHub. No big deal but as I searched found some of her online dates from POF, Tinder filmed in a hotel room from the moment the guy walked into the room until he left. It was a hidden camera so he had no clue he was being filmed. Also there was someone else involved who was a lookout and would let the lady know when he arrived in the hallway as soon as he left her helper was at the door and entered as off went the tape. Not just a one time deal but multiple locations different John was his time. Anyone looking can stumble onto this and easily recognize the John. As I have expanded the search there are 100's of videos for and. C. Easily used against an individual. But I highly doubt. Entertainment purposes only I'm sure 😎 high quality videos shot at our favorite ABS, strip clubs, famous SW streets thru out the Carolina's. Real live reviews! Technology is awesome! Please no PM's.[/QUOTE]Can you provide a link, I am unable to find.

Florida lawmakers just voted to create a public registry of people caught paying or attempting to pay for sex.

After an initial defeat in the Florida House of Representatives, the registry—arguably the worst part of a new Florida crime bill capitalizing on human-trafficking propaganda—was revived and reinserted before the measure's passage in the Florida Senate. The final version, approved last week, creates a database of convicted prostitution customers, targets strip clubs, and mandates that a slew of state workers and businesses jump through new hoops to accommodate a few politicians' latest attempt to get their names in the press.

As the Florida Senate's Committee on Community Affairs stated, the new registry "will collect and centralize information relating to those convicted of soliciting prostitution, regardless of whether the person subject to the solicitation is a victim of human trafficking or not. ".

The Soliciting for Prostitution Public Database will list anyone who has been convicted of, or plead guilty, to "soliciting, inducing, enticing, or procuring another to commit prostitution, lewdness, or assignation. " The legislation specifies that the database should include a person's name, photograph, address, and offense. Listed people who go five years without a subsequent offense could have their names removed.

"This isn't creating a list of bad or dangerous clients; it's just a list of clients who got caught by the police," Kaytlin Bailey of Decriminalize Sex Work told Filter. "It's impossible to tell the good guys from the bad if you lump them all together. Men who pay for sex aren't predators. Predators who pose as clients are. When you make potential clients scared of giving sex workers the information they need to screen, you make it impossible to tell the difference between men who are scared and men who are scary. ".

The new measure also classifies strip clubs as "adult theaters"—then makes it a first-degree misdemeanor criminal offense for the operator of any adult theater to fail to keep proper records.

The law also creates wide new categories of workers and businesses that are required to make state-approved "anti-trafficking" curriculum part of employee training, continuing education hours, or occupational licensing schemes.

In Florida and elsewhere, this training has proven to be anti-prostitution and pro-surveillance propaganda disguised as tips for teaching bystanders how to prevent human trafficking. Officials get to collect fees for the training, or award funding for it to favored law enforcement and activist groups. Making sure businesses comply with training and awareness rules gives government officials a new reason to monitor them.

While it will certainly transfer private money to the state, give bureaucrats something to do, and provide the public with people to gawk at and judge, Florida's "human trafficking" legislation does nothing for victims of actual sex trafficking.

[URL]https://reason.com/2019/05/09/florida-is-creating-a-new-sex-offender-registry-just-for-prostitution-customers/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nhgiy;4267559]Can you provide a link, I am unable to find.[/QUOTE]I would like a link as well.

Are you sure that these videos weren't "staged" to look like a voyeuristic situation?

[QUOTE=RichardParker;4267676]Florida lawmakers just voted to create a public registry of people caught paying or attempting to pay for sex.

After an initial defeat in the Florida House of Representatives, the registryarguably the worst part of a new Florida crime bill capitalizing on human-trafficking propagandawas revived and reinserted before the measure's passage in the Florida Senate. The final version, approved last week, creates a database of convicted prostitution customers, targets strip clubs, and mandates that a slew of state workers and businesses jump through new hoops to accommodate a few politicians' latest attempt to get their names in the press.

As the Florida Senate's Committee on Community Affairs stated, the new registry "will collect and centralize information relating to those convicted of soliciting prostitution, regardless of whether the person subject to the solicitation is a victim of human trafficking or not. "

The Soliciting for Prostitution Public Database will list anyone who has been convicted of, or plead guilty, to "soliciting, inducing, enticing, or procuring another to commit prostitution, lewdness, or assignation. " The legislation specifies that the database should include a person's name, photograph, address, and offense. Listed people who go five years without a subsequent offense could have their names removed.

"This isn't creating a list of bad or dangerous clients; it's just a list of clients who got caught by the police," Kaytlin Bailey of Decriminalize Sex Work told Filter. "It's impossible to tell the good guys from the bad if you lump them all together. Men who pay for sex aren't predators. Predators who pose as clients are. When you make potential clients scared of giving sex workers the information they need to screen, you make it impossible to tell the difference between men who are scared and men who are scary. ".

The new measure also classifies strip clubs as "adult theaters"then makes it a first-degree misdemeanor criminal offense for the operator of any adult theater to fail to keep proper records.

The law also creates wide new categories of workers and businesses that are required to make state-approved "anti-trafficking" curriculum part of employee training, continuing education hours, or occupational licensing schemes.

In Florida and elsewhere, this training has proven to be anti-prostitution and pro-surveillance propaganda disguised as tips for teaching bystanders how to prevent human trafficking. Officials get to collect fees for the training, or award funding for it to favored law enforcement and activist groups. Making sure businesses comply with training and awareness rules gives government officials a new reason to monitor them.

While it will certainly transfer private money to the state, give bureaucrats something to do, and provide the public with people to gawk at and judge, Florida's "human trafficking" legislation does nothing for victims of actual sex trafficking.

[URL]https://reason.com/2019/05/09/florida-is-creating-a-new-sex-offender-registry-just-for-prostitution-customers/[/URL][/QUOTE]Tampa and Miami are busy but OBT in Orlando will keep them working OT.

[QUOTE=Bb211;4267336]Found videos of a known provider in the Raleigh area on PornHub. No big deal but as I searched found some of her online dates from POF, Tinder filmed in a hotel room from the moment the guy walked into the room until he left. It was a hidden camera so he had no clue he was being filmed. Also there was someone else involved who was a lookout and would let the lady know when he arrived in the hallway as soon as he left her helper was at the door and entered as off went the tape. Not just a one time deal but multiple locations different John was his time. Anyone looking can stumble onto this and easily recognize the John. As I have expanded the search there are 100's of videos for and. C. Easily used against an individual. But I highly doubt. Entertainment purposes only I'm sure 😎 high quality videos shot at our favorite ABS, strip clubs, famous SW streets thru out the Carolina's. Real live reviews! Technology is awesome! Please no PM's.[/QUOTE]Yes, I would like some links to these as well.

[QUOTE=ArmyNiceGuy;4267723]Yes, I would like some links to these as well.[/QUOTE]Go to pornhub search raleigh.

[QUOTE=ArmyNiceGuy;4267723]Yes, I would like some links to these as well.[/QUOTE]Use key words in search. A good start Raleigh try NC amateur. If you are not familiar with pornhub become familiar. Find a video, watch, after do not exit but click on under on the to reverse it will show frames of the video you just watched, shows # of views, name of performer maybe, location, when filmed and most importantly related videos. No telling where this will lead. Be patient, be creative in terms you know like ABS, street ******, New Bern, High Point on and on. Another tip when you enter let's say Raleigh in the search area on Pornhub you will notice choices to the left listed vertically like Raleigh Book store Raleigh amateur, this helps a lot. Enjoy the search. I do not feel it's appropriate to share a link on a public board. If someone finds it on their own that's different. Nicknames like Silk this dude is a star!

If you are talking about Krystal Moanz, her videos are filmed by her husband. The camera is not hidden and it's not some sort of spying situation. The guys know that they are being filmed because whoever is filming is walking around with the camera.

However, if it is someone else you are talking about, please let us know.

[QUOTE=Bb211;4267879]Use key words in search. A good start Raleigh try NC amateur. If you are not familiar with pornhub become familiar. Find a video, watch, after do not exit but click on under on the to reverse it will show frames of the video you just watched, shows # of views, name of performer maybe, location, when filmed and most importantly related videos. No telling where this will lead. Be patient, be creative in terms you know like ABS, street ******, New Bern, High Point on and on. Another tip when you enter let's say Raleigh in the search area on Pornhub you will notice choices to the left listed vertically like Raleigh Book store Raleigh amateur, this helps a lot. Enjoy the search. I do not feel it's appropriate to share a link on a public board. If someone finds it on their own that's different. Nicknames like Silk this dude is a star![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bb211;4267879]Use key words in search. A good start Raleigh try NC amateur. If you are not familiar with pornhub become familiar. Find a video, watch, after do not exit but click on under on the to reverse it will show frames of the video you just watched, shows # of views, name of performer maybe, location, when filmed and most importantly related videos. No telling where this will lead. Be patient, be creative in terms you know like ABS, street ******, New Bern, High Point on and on. Another tip when you enter let's say Raleigh in the search area on Pornhub you will notice choices to the left listed vertically like Raleigh Book store Raleigh amateur, this helps a lot. Enjoy the search. I do not feel it's appropriate to share a link on a public board. If someone finds it on their own that's different. Nicknames like Silk this dude is a star![/QUOTE]Bb211 you kill me. "I bang online h**kers and post about it on public boards. I frequent adult bookstores and stick my dick thru walls for (someone) to suck and post about it on public boards. I search pornhub during work hours and post about it on public boards. But I DO NOT feel it's appropriate to share links on public boards!" Haha. You keep those high standards bro.

Plus, if this gal is supposedly recording a visit from someone without that person's knowledge, then that person could be one or more of US!

Call her out, dude!

[QUOTE=CockyP1;4268902]Bb211 you kill me. "I bang online h**kers and post about it on public boards. I frequent adult bookstores and stick my dick thru walls for (someone) to suck and post about it on public boards. I search pornhub during work hours and post about it on public boards. But I DO NOT feel it's appropriate to share links on public boards!" Haha. You keep those high standards bro.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CockyP1;4268902]Bb211 you kill me. "I bang online h**kers and post about it on public boards. I frequent adult bookstores and stick my dick thru walls for (someone) to suck and post about it on public boards. I search pornhub during work hours and post about it on public boards. But I DO NOT feel it's appropriate to share links on public boards!" Haha. You keep those high standards bro.[/QUOTE]I luv it when a trick plays the ethics card. There was a guy that quit seeing his ho and cock block her number and wouldn't give it out. Said he doesn't give out numbers. Sent me the SA link instead. Well dam yo! If I was SA member I wouldn't have asked you in the first place. Smdh.

[QUOTE=CockyP1;4268902]Bb211 you kill me. "I bang online h**kers and post about it on public boards. I frequent adult bookstores and stick my dick thru walls for (someone) to suck and post about it on public boards. I search pornhub during work hours and post about it on public boards. But I DO NOT feel it's appropriate to share links on public boards!" Haha. You keep those high standards bro.[/QUOTE]Way to get off to a great start here calling people out. He gave you the info. You're too busy posting shit up here to look up porn hub? Yes it's crystal Moans on there. What have you contributed?

Here's a hint, put Raleigh, Durham or whatever city you want in quotes and that should cut down the search results. I'm not really sure why he won't share the links but I'm sure he has his reasons. FWIW, the one with Mic Check Renee isn't a hidden camera so she was clearly down. As to if she knew he'd put it on the internet, I don't know. I didn't see any that were in a hotel hallway but I didn't do much searching. Maybe he'll share.

Regarding what you may see. Generally if a guy is filming in an ABS the other guys didn't sign a paper but see what's going on. If you're willing to risk your face being on camera to get your dick sucked then that's on you. Years ago I went to a gangbang and the husband was taking pictures. I found a picture of me fucking the dude's wife on their profile and was pissed but I knew it was a risk and had limited right to be upset. It's also important to realize that a lot of porn, even amateur porn, is staged. Just because it looks like some guy is on hidden camera doesn't mean that he wasn't in on it.

Assholes! WTF? Have to have the fucking links. To the asswipe with nine fucking posts eat shit! It's very interesting what you can find on the internet. Also quite entertaining to discover the talent thru out the state and neighboring states.