What a little boy. JRichard
[QUOTE=J Richard;7545695] [b]Told you so...[/b]
The self-appointed mayor (not the O/P) on the site would like you to believe that the actions taken are "administrative" and from a desk without any surveillance, and attack any info provided.
What the media failed to include or not told about, was the seizure of "other property" not just cash or the total number of people taken in.
Just like a week ago.
Why were the BC's on 202? Not because of a better business opportunity.
But due to the fact Immigration was operating in Elkton and Newark, making multiple arrests. These never made the media posts that I see or here.
Why?? Why deal the BS comments. That's what drives open comments to private message sharing.[/QUOTE]
You just had to proclaim a victory lap didn't you? Then you just had to take pot shots! And you weren't man enough to call me out by name, just a vague reference! What an immature little boy.
What you have always said is no point in discussing details of things on these boards as it's too sensitive, yet you complain that comments just drive discussion private. Which is it? Discussions need to be private or you want them to be private?
What has always been objected to is your style where you play 'all knowing & all seeing" dude with innuendo and tidbits. You provide nothing clear that can be acted on. It's like you want everyone to think you are a expert or you want the attention of PMs? But yet, you won't provide detail in any shape or form. [B] Just give up the 'act' and report the details you know! Help out the community![/B].
But let's clarify things: The first round of The Sex Trafficking Task Force was indeed administrative in nature. Businesses & landlords were sent threatening letters about no proper licenses and massage parlors often being associated with sex trafficking. That is a fact.
Until this recent action there were no real boots on the ground action. Oh you and your LE brethren may have been planning something, but your obtuse reporting of such did nothing to help the community. Your obscure post either got ignored or scared guys out of the hobby. In effect doing LE's work for them. Now why would a dude do something like that? Hmmm. Get jammed up by LE and had to turn state's evidence? Or already employed by LE?
So Mr. Insider information. What other property got seized? (real estate?) How many dudes jammed up?
But my guess is that LE can charge you with anything they wish, but if dudes keep their freaking mouth shut there is little likelihood that anything would stick.
But where is the Task Force? Now you say ICE was involved? They can't even find a Chinese girl who snuck across the Mexico boarder and is working once again in an AMP near the State Line?
Thanks for playing!
You could afford to be a bit more clear too! Just saying
[QUOTE=Jayke00;7545912]I'm confused about the "other property (seized)" which was mentioned, but from the rest of the post, I got:
[I]A well-known, high-post-count contributor who, from time to time, has been accused, without evidence, of operating multiple accounts under multiple names, has forcefully posted several times in the recent past that this kind of activity is driven entirely from an administrator sitting behind a desk wagging their paper finger, and is not funded to operate in the field.
When others offer a different opinion, they are attacked for daring to believe that the agency in question is actually out and about and acting on the standard kind of tradecraft practiced in their line of work.
Offered as evidence that such a "hands on" approach is, indeed, in effect, is that a group of service providers are operating in an unusual area, which is not as lucrative as their usual territory. Mentioned is other, related enforcement activity in their usual stomping grounds that would jeopardize these providers' business operations, freedom and very residency in this country.
The poster concludes by openly wondering why someone would publicly offer their opinions if it's contrary to the purpose of why we are all gathered here in the first place[/I][/QUOTE]Up until now, of recent, the Task Force has only been shutting down places through administrative purposes. I have explained how. Letter to the property owners "suggesting" sex trafficking and threatening felonies, through innuendo. Apparently crime is down in DE enough that they found some funds for boots on the ground?
What has been and will continue to be objected to is vague references without detail that can help the community. Saying "I know better" or "I know something" does nothing to help guys out. It gives no actionable information. So I implore posters to provide detailed information that can help the community: innuendo doesn't help. Surely we can be men and report what we know?
But hey, even you Jake, are confused by JRichard's vague reference to "other property!" See what I am talking about? Why doesn't he just say what the F he knows instead of being vague? The comments I have made in the past in this spat are about STYLE! JRichard needs to provide detail and actionable intel to those of us in the community, as YES!, that is the purpose here.
Why is this so hard!? Two posters today have stated they don't get what JRichard is talking about. That proves my point! He should stop being vague and instead be clear! That's all I object to. His vague, innuendo style. If he would state clear facts, he'df have no objection from this chair.
Dude- we're trying to help you be a better reporter and a help to the Community!
Another dude who is all emotional and just does not think?
[QUOTE=JRichard;7552280]There are only a few people that know what was taken. The owner, their attorney, people on site, and those involved with the prosecution.[/QUOTE]Ah OK, so you know what was taken and therefore you must be one of the "few people" on your list! So which is it? Are you involved with the prosecution? Or are you LE?
[QUOTE=JRichard;7552280]Why would I put more details that would lead back to someone or several people for the sake of you? [/QUOTE]I think most guys post here because they are civic minded or have altruistic tendencies. It's about helping out the COMMUNITY and not one individual! We are all here to help others find girls.
So you really just don't understand. Your posts for the most part are useless. You leave out key details and play the game like you are Mr. Insider-know-it-all. It's not just me that has that opinion, others have posted that they don't know what you're talking about most of the time. Can you wake up? It's just your STYLE of posting!
Here's some advice:
1. Post only what you know as a FACT and what can be posted in public.
2. Quit making innuendoes or references to stuff you think is "too sensitive". If it's too sensitive, don't refer to it!
3. Post stuff that will help the COMMUNITY as a whole. Post stuff that helps others AMP.
I mean shit. Who cares if LE seized a bunch of cash from an AMP, a gross of condoms or even some furniture? None of that effects mongers, so why reference it? How does that help guys who go to AMPs stay safe?
[QUOTE=JRichard;7552280]If you can't figure out what property may be located in a massage palor that has value for making a case then you are plain stupid, but we already know that. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the back-handed insult. Is that all you have? A weak reference to my intellectual acumen? Guys like you are a dime a dozen. When they run out of ways to talk and resolve issues they resort to name calling! I'm not impressed.
[QUOTE=JRichard;7552280]But again, you know and explained Joe Balls, only summarizing what You Believe to true on how the actions are being conducted. Which is 100% incorrect. [/QUOTE]OK Mr. Know-it-All, what is incorrect about the fact that the first wave of effort by the Task Force was letters to property owners with threats to charge them with felonies? Huh? Once again you can't help but alluding to something without stating what it is!
I know for a FACT that this approach was used. But like you say - "it's too sensitive" to post the actual evidence.
[QUOTE=JRichard;7552280]You can believe who and what you want, I really don't care. As someone who would spend a lot of time in AMP's and still do, just not in Delaware any longer. I still dabble in some other types as well like waiting for Diya to return in six days to Mt. Laurel which I wrote about previously.[/QUOTE]It isn't a "belief" I know for a fact! You are welcome to down play this in your mind, it's a free country!
But WAIT! If you don't care then why spend any time attacking me? Does that stroke your little ego?
[B]So you don't do anything at DE AMPs anymore, yet you want to tell us in DE how to operate?[/B] Look dude your posts with innuendo only serve the purpose of scaring the uneducated and those who are low risk tolerant. How does that benefit the COMMUNITY here? Why don't you post actionable items that will help others? Why not use you "expertise" to describe "how to" operate in an AMP? Or is you purpose as part of the Task Force to discourage mongering in the first state?
I've got no beef with you, it's just your style. See my suggestions above as those can help you be a better member of the community.
Hope you take heed, look in the mirror and improve.
Entitled Babbies on This Site
[QUOTE=AmgPhilly63;7577155]Damn. Any chance of a link for Tegan?[/QUOTE]So this dude wants to be spoon fed a link, when maybe 15 posts down in the thread is a post with the link. One could get there by back tracking the replied messages or even using the Advanced Search.
But I get it, there is a generation who thinks everything on the net should be available just for the asking INSTANTLY! It's an entitled approach. I'd rather help someone learn how to function on their own, rather than spoon feed them. Safer for them in the long run.
I keep pounding the table that this website is valuable for it's HISTORY. But I guess most now only want it to be instant gratification like "Ask" or Reddit?
But to get offended when I showed you "how to" and send me a PM saying you are going to provide useless info to my future posts? Seriously? Sure looks butt hurt, and no recognition one could 'do for them self' if they put in a little effort. If you knew about those approaches already then why didn't you use them? But threats? Seriously?
I guess those that don't follow the history don't know what kind of wet shoes they just signed up for? Oh well, a poster her taught me there are three kinds of people:
1) Those who learn from reading & studying.
2) Those who learn from watching others, and.
3) Those that just have to go ahead and piss on the electric fence.