Strip Club Reports

I went yesterday day shift around 2 pm. First comes Athena, young early 20's, cute face, nice body, pierced tits. Quoted 200 for head only and I said no thanks. Then came Deena acting tipsy. We negotiate 120 + 20 booth fee before going to the VIP and I told her I want BBBJ. When we get in the booth she tells me to hand her the cash. I said I will put it on the table till we finish. I put the cash on the table and immediately she picks it up and tucks in her shoe. I knew at that point I made a mistake going in the VIP with her. Then slowly she is taking off her clothes and gets the cover out. I tell her no cover she says its 60 more without the cover. I was like no we did not agree on that outside and she said no honey and acts like I was not clear. So I was like ok and got a lackluster CBJ and felt no mood to continue. I just told her to stop and decided to leave in 2 songs. I asked my money back of the remaining 2 or 3 songs and and she said no way. I went and told the bouncer that I only did 2 songs and she took 120. Bouncer said I cannot do anything it's what you guys negotiated and not my problem. I went to get my jacket and nobody was there and went back to the VIP to call the bouncer to get my jacket. I saw him talking to Deena and coming out with a 20 in his hand. That's when I realized they are in cahoots to rip people of like this. I go to multiple clubs but only BTs is the one where I have experienced this kind of situation the 2nd time. Last time was like 2 yrs or so ago. So basically 160 (120 + 20 VIP tax + 10 beer + 10 valet) wasted.

Deena is bad news, she has many reports of ripping off customers. We need a better description of her. When she changes here name because of bad reviews we can still identify her.

Sorry you were taken, that always sucks.

[QUOTE=JadooMazar;5228873]I went yesterday day shift around 2 pm. First comes Athena, young early 20's, cute face, nice body, pierced tits. Quoted 200 for head only and I said no thanks. Then came Deena acting tipsy. We negotiate 120 + 20 booth fee before going to the VIP and I told her I want BBBJ. When we get in the booth she tells me to hand her the cash. I said I will put it on the table till we finish. I put the cash on the table and immediately she picks it up and tucks in her shoe. I knew at that point I made a mistake going in the VIP with her. Then slowly she is taking off her clothes and gets the cover out. I tell her no cover she says its 60 more without the cover. I was like no we did not agree on that outside and she said no honey and acts like I was not clear. So I was like ok and got a lackluster CBJ and felt no mood to continue. I just told her to stop and decided to leave in 2 songs. I asked my money back of the remaining 2 or 3 songs and and she said no way. I went and told the bouncer that I only did 2 songs and she took 120. Bouncer said I cannot do anything it's what you guys negotiated and not my problem. I went to get my jacket and nobody was there and went back to the VIP to call the bouncer to get my jacket. I saw him talking to Deena and coming out with a 20 in his hand. That's when I realized they are in cahoots to rip people of like this. I go to multiple clubs but only BTs is the one where I have experienced this kind of situation the 2nd time. Last time was like 2 yrs or so ago. So basically 160 (120 + 20 VIP tax + 10 beer + 10 valet) wasted.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TomSmith26;5205080]After I accepted her 150 offer Deena Insisted to add song prices to the total = her 1st offer of 200.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JadooMazar;5228873]I went yesterday day shift around 2 pm. First comes Athena, young early 20's, cute face, nice body, pierced tits. Quoted 200 for head only and I said no thanks. Then came Deena acting tipsy. We negotiate 120 + 20 booth fee before going to the VIP and I told her I want BBBJ. When we get in the booth she tells me to hand her the cash. I said I will put it on the table till we finish. I put the cash on the table and immediately she picks it up and tucks in her shoe. I knew at that point I made a mistake going in the VIP with her. Then slowly she is taking off her clothes and gets the cover out. I tell her no cover she says its 60 more without the cover. I was like no we did not agree on that outside and she said no honey and acts like I was not clear. So I was like ok and got a lackluster CBJ and felt no mood to continue. I just told her to stop and decided to leave in 2 songs. I asked my money back of the remaining 2 or 3 songs and and she said no way. I went and told the bouncer that I only did 2 songs and she took 120. Bouncer said I cannot do anything it's what you guys negotiated and not my problem. I went to get my jacket and nobody was there and went back to the VIP to call the bouncer to get my jacket. I saw him talking to Deena and coming out with a 20 in his hand. That's when I realized they are in cahoots to rip people of like this. I go to multiple clubs but only BTs is the one where I have experienced this kind of situation the 2nd time. Last time was like 2 yrs or so ago. So basically 160 (120 + 20 VIP tax + 10 beer + 10 valet) wasted.[/QUOTE]You have to pay $20 to the bouncer as a room fee. If you didn't pay it upon entry then that was her paying it after you walked out. Nobody is in cohoots together. She was paying what she owed for using VIP and these bouncers typically can't stand the girls who are sloppy or always ripping off customers. He's probably so used to hearing the same thing from customers about this one particular girl that he was unfazed. However, he was correcting what he said to you. The bouncers can only collect for money for songs. Not for any consensual adult activities that may happen in VIP because that would then be them admitting to supporting and allowing prostitution.

[QUOTE=AnotherPerson;5228954]You have to pay $20 to the bouncer as a room fee. If you didn't pay it upon entry then that was her paying it after you walked out. Nobody is in cohoots together. She was paying what she owed for using VIP and these bouncers typically can't stand the girls who are sloppy or always ripping off customers. He's probably so used to hearing the same thing from customers about this one particular girl that he was unfazed. However, he was correcting what he said to you. The bouncers can only collect for money for songs. Not for any consensual adult activities that may happen in VIP because that would then be them admitting to supporting and allowing prostitution.[/QUOTE]I did pay my 20 dollars before entering the VIP booth. Its interesting to see your first post.

[QUOTE=JadooMazar;5229045]I did pay my 20 dollars before entering the VIP booth. Its interesting to see your first post.[/QUOTE]Sorry brother, not to point out the obvious but you simply never can let $ leave your pants pocket until the deed is done 100% or this opportunity is open for them. You have to be willing to walk away down $40 and live to fight another day.

[QUOTE=Verizon75;5228771]I hit the clubs in that order (SC, BT, Bogarts and FC) starting out at 1 pm (ish) on Thursday.

SC.

Walked in mask on signed in no cover and sat down 2 guys were at the bar, which is on the right when you walk in with with small white girls at opposite ends. Sat down ordered a water ($7). One white girl dancing. A big not fat or heavy AA girl can and sat by me said her name was desire. She had long black hair, 2-3 in nails (ugh) and the big boot that comes with their culture. She came over sipping her shot of tequila and salt shaker. We talked, I couldn't shake her, she kept hinting at the back room and the fun we could have. Constantly rubbing me, she did have very small soft hands. Thank God she was called on stage she left stating I better wait for her, the current girl on stage went to the back room.

I saw one more white girl walk out and sit down on the back wall by the DJ and VIP room entrance. She look good from afar but could not really tell. The club atmosphere was dead, dive bar, old smokey joint, yet no smoke. They called the next girl to the stage, I did not want desire coming back to me, grabbed my water and head out to BT.

In the parking lot a truck pulls in with an old white guy drive and a very small girl in the passenger seat. He drops her off at the entrance, then he parks. I almost went back in just for her. Figured it would be a 1/2 hr by the time I get to see her, I just left.

BT's.

Parked at JD's Bamboozles walked over. Mask on signed in sat at the bar mask off. Ordered my water (I believe it was $7). Bar is on the right I sit all the way at the far end from the entrance. Bartender looked bitter and her attitude was the same. One guy at the bar with a skinny AA. One other patron on the floor eating with a white slightly big dancer with red or pink hair. A client eventually came out of the VIP room with a very small skinny white girl, possible some asian in her. They sat at the bar.

The girl on stage very short dark hair, partially shaved head on her right side and black glassed cute. She gets off stage goes to the back room and a Blonde white girl gets on stage she is cute, thick. The guy with the AA gets up and tips her, eventually the AA leaves him for the back room. The 1st dancer walks over to sits down we start talking, I believe she says her name is sammy, an older client walks in past sammy and I sits at booth by the entrance to the kitchen. I actually see more of the kitchen staff then the girls. Sammy quickly gets up, turns states you don't want any dances, and leaves. Goes over to the older guy, they are there for maybe 2 songs then they head back to VIP. I guess a regular of hers. The girl with red / pink hair comes over to me. She is not my type, we talk. I try to get her to leave by being short, distance and uninterested.

A spinner type girl takes the stage, another patron walks in and sits at the stage he tips her, I get up and tip her, red / pink hair girl leaves me and goes back to the original guy she was with. Girl gets off stage and goes to the 1st guy that tipped here and they go into the back room. Of the talent that was out and about, not much for me. I did not want to wait, again I left.

Bogarts,

I am in a down mood because of lack of success at the last two places. Walk in mask on sign in, the guy ask if I had a VIP card, I said no how do you get one he states ask a manager. Then said covered no worries hands me a ticket. I sit at the bar order a beer, scan the room and it is an old folks home of clients and dancers. There were two not that old dancers that never moved or got up sitting with a client on the wall under the DJ stand. Two stages were active, the main stage and the corner by the the entrance. 3 AA girls which were the youngest ages ranging form late 20's to late 30's. 1 very old asian, that was probably hot when younger. 4 white girls, 2 late 40's+ and the 2 on the DJ wall I could not tell. No action in the VIP rooms while I was there. Finished my beer and went to the FC.

FC.

The 1st shift of girls have to stay until 7 pm and they can choose to stay until 8, but then must be gone. All food and drinks are gone at 10 pm, not even water. You can order food up to 1:30 am but it is take out only, they will let you eat it outside or at your car and come back in. They will sell you only water no alcohol to go too. At 10 pm everyone even customers must wear mask at all times. Healy enforced.

Yes I had to valet ($8+2 tip). Mask on, signed in, I wanted a booth (20) sat down. Ordered a bucket of (5) beers ($36). Soon this very hot young spinner sat down talked, she work fast and said lest party, I asked cost she said 600/ FS, good luck with that is all I said, must have offended her, she bolted fast.

Girls were being rotated fast, 1 song each location, 2 on main stage, 1 on the booth stage and 1 on bar stage. All girls were 7 or higher, except (IMHO) one short heavy blonde. I am not good with names, not at all, I just do not care. Through out the night I had 6 girls come and sit with me. They all were my type, but now I was also looking for a connection. There is this tall slender european girl, 10 in my books who I have seen before and is always in red lingerie, she sat down, I would have gone with her, but she was too $$ (300/ FS) I said 300 for 2 pops she said not 1, I tried for 1 at at 200 no luck she left. Next girl white blonde I would rate at a 7, sits we had a good time, she wanted 200, to me her value was 150/ FS. We both politely said maybe later. She also said that that, what I would call is the least attractive short heavy blonde gets 1 k a pop. My reply was, "and you'll pay me to have sex with you".

Young skinny 5' 8" very white, very blonde sits, small A's with me. We talk, I was unable to get to my price point. I did not want to walk away, this time the value is not in my favor. We agree to 200/ CBJ / FS 2 pops if I can get it done in less than 6 songs. Which is not a bad deal if I get both in. My biggest disappointment was the CBJ. 20 to doorman. Get to our booth, not the time to waste time she gets naked, condom goes on and CBJ, we are done half way thru the second song. I could have lasted longer but this is not the time to hold back. I get her to dance and grind, my hands are allowed anywhere except FIV and there is no LFK / DFK. At the start of the fifth song cover goes on and I have her grind cowgirl. I could have left loose, at the start of song 6 we go to doggy where I finish a second time.[/QUOTE]At v75 - great report, love the details. I am surprised you didn't find what you were looking for at BT's, must have been a timing thing. Sounds like the pink haired spinner was "Violet", would have been worth waiting for but I understand your thought process. I am impressed with your perserverence, and getting 200 for 2 pops and 6 song count at FC's with a young girl is no small feat. Well done, sir!

Hey all, I have been a regular monger in the AMP / Private Massage game for years but am very curious about how things work on the strip club side? Anyone able to walk me through a typical encounter? Specifically how you would approach or start the conversation, how do you act, what would you say, sit at the bar / table / booths, etc. Basically what to expect? I've read the the last 2 dozen or so pages in the forum but I have obviously never done this at the clubs before. Any girls you would recommend VS who to avoid? I'm extremely interested in trying and would appreciate the heads up on what to expect or any advice you can offer! PM ok.

Vrx.

[QUOTE=OnlyVrx;5232549]Hey all, I have been a regular monger in the AMP / Private Massage game for years but am very curious about how things work on the strip club side? Anyone able to walk me through a typical encounter? Specifically how you would approach or start the conversation, how do you act, what would you say, sit at the bar / table / booths, etc. Basically what to expect? I've read the the last 2 dozen or so pages in the forum but I have obviously never done this at the clubs before. Any girls you would recommend VS who to avoid? I'm extremely interested in trying and would appreciate the heads up on what to expect or any advice you can offer! PM ok.

Vrx.[/QUOTE]It's not hard and it'll depend on the girl. As in any strip club, some will walk up to you and sit down with you. Just talk with them normally. When the topic of a private dance comes up, feel free to be straightfoward about what you want, what you want to spend and what they offer.

Over the past week I made two trips to SC and one to BT's.

My first trip to SC I arrived at 12:30 PM and stayed for one beer. There was one blonde spinner I thought was attractive but she was with other customers for the 45 minutes I was there. When she went to the back I decided I didn't like my chances given the number of girls and customers so decided to leave and head to BT's. Total cost was $8.

I arrived at BT's on the same day and settled in at the bar. Sammie, Athena, Violet and a cute black girl that I forgot her name all approached me separately and I chatted with each of them for a few minutes. Sammie's body is a little too pear shaped. Athena has a great body but her ghetto tone of voice really turned me off. The black girl was cute but she was slightly too thick for what I was looking for. Violet I was interested in but she got called to the stage and for some reason I lost interest and decided to call it a day. After reading some of the recent reviews I regret passing on Violet so maybe I'll go back soon to sample. Cost was $18 for one beer and valet.

A few days later I venture back out and start again at SC around noon. This time Blue comes over and she's exactly my type. Blue is 20's, mixed, dark hair, A / B cup, minimal tattoos, belly ring, fit body and nice ass. We discuss VIP and she quotes 150 for BBBJ and 250 cfs. I counter with 150 for cfs, she accepts and off we go. She starts with some great LFK and a warm up dance before moving to BBBJ. The BBBJ isn't the best, it's a little toothy, but it's a BBBJ so it's not terrible either. We go on like this for about a song or so and then on with the cover. We start with k-9 and I don't make it longer than a song before we're done. Overall a great time and I will repeat with Blue. Cost was $150 + $10 VIP fee + $8 beer for a total $168.

[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;5232044]Sorry brother, not to point out the obvious but you simply never can let $ leave your pants pocket until the deed is done 100% or this opportunity is open for them. You have to be willing to walk away down $40 and live to fight another day.[/QUOTE]Totally agree, once you put the money on the table you were done. When she picked it up and took it you should have walked right out then.

I am willing to show the girls the money, and tell them I am regular I haven't had any complaints if they want they can asked the VIP room attendant, or we can just walk out now.

Sometime if she is really hot, I will do once dance just to get to feel her up.

99% of the time it ends badly when you do not pay at the end.

MM.

[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;5232152]At v75 - great report, love the details. I am surprised you didn't find what you were looking for at BT's, must have been a timing thing. Sounds like the pink haired spinner was "Violet", would have been worth waiting for but I understand your thought process. I am impressed with your perserverence, and getting 200 for 2 pops and 6 song count at FC's with a young girl is no small feat. Well done, sir![/QUOTE]I think it is the 6 songs that made it happen. I like to negotiate for no song count and seem to never get that low a price a FC.

I tend not to go to FC unless I met a dancer someplace else and she tells me she is working there. I have too many nights talking to 5 or more girls and not being able to negotiate anything satisfactory.

MM.

I agree it was a timing thing. I'll have to circle back for Violet.

I really do not understand these girls, they want our money and we want their goods. If I pay 200 for 6 songs or 10 songs, what do they care if I am able to get two off. I can make them work all day for 1 and take 10 songs. I truly believe I caught her off-guard, and she thought to herself it will be one and done and take 4-5 songs and not have to be there for 6 or the second pop. I am not here to impress the talent and last long time. If she wanted 1 pop I would talk my way into 100 for 3 songs.

My option is to go home with money that is in my pocket, that obviously I do not need. Her option is to go home 100 or 200 short.

[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;5232152]At v75 - great report, love the details. I am surprised you didn't find what you were looking for at BT's, must have been a timing thing. Sounds like the pink haired spinner was "Violet", would have been worth waiting for but I understand your thought process. I am impressed with your perserverence, and getting 200 for 2 pops and 6 song count at FC's with a young girl is no small feat. Well done, sir![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;5218561]Stopped by on Friday around noon, had all afternoon clear so I settled in. Sat at the bar as usual and got a bucket of miller lites. Usually I see Violet, but she wasn't there, but there were plenty of other girls to choose from. Around 8-10 girls and I was the only customer. In this situation I find that the girls want to cover their tip-out early, so the rest of the shift for them is basically a free-roll. Needless to say, I had girls all over me so I had my pick. I shooed away a couple before Sam sat with me, and had a good conversation with her. Brunette but with colors, sort of thick but not too much, cute face. In her 30's I think. She gave me a high quote and said she is picky doesn't go back with just anyone (yeah I heard all this before), etc. Finally I said 160 no song count for BBBJ and cfs take it or leave it, she took it. It was good, but she refused CIM even though it was agreed to, so I will not repeat with her. Plus she started complaining about taking too long even though we agreed no song count. Back to the bar for more drinking, and eventually Ariel sits down, blonde girl thin nice body. She gets right to the point and offers 120 for BBBJ / CIM. I jump on that and it was awesome. Nice DT, took direction, no complaining, fingered herself the whole time. Got her digits for OTC action as well. I spent over 500 total for VIP action, troll fees, bar bill, and valet. It was glorious.[/QUOTE]How many girls at BT's will do BBBJ with CIM?

120 is a damn good price for that. I won't get too fussy about looks with that kind of bargain, but she's got to have decent teeth and no BO as a minimum standard.

He is right some girls will bring it up.

There are some that don't do extras.

When she ask 'do you want some dances', reply with:

• I'm looking for more than dances (or).

• I'm looking for a girl who does extras.

Then it is up to you to figure out value and negotiate your best deal. If she is too pricey, politely turn her down, hustling and needing money.

When you do negotiate make sure;.

• it is not close to their stage rotation.

• price includes the song count.

• everything you want done to you.

• everything you want to do to them.

• show them the money once in the booth.

• give them the money only after the satisfy their side of the deal.

Some girls 'forget' napkins. So take you own back for clean up.

-good luck.

[QUOTE=GolDark;5232839]It's not hard and it'll depend on the girl. As in any strip club, some will walk up to you and sit down with you. Just talk with them normally. When the topic of a private dance comes up, feel free to be straightfoward about what you want, what you want to spend and what they offer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OnlyVrx;5232549]Hey all, I have been a regular monger in the AMP / Private Massage game for years but am very curious about how things work on the strip club side? Anyone able to walk me through a typical encounter? Specifically how you would approach or start the conversation, how do you act, what would you say, sit at the bar / table / booths, etc. Basically what to expect? I've read the the last 2 dozen or so pages in the forum but I have obviously never done this at the clubs before. Any girls you would recommend VS who to avoid? I'm extremely interested in trying and would appreciate the heads up on what to expect or any advice you can offer! PM ok.

Vrx.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OnlyVrx;5232549]Hey all, I have been a regular monger in the AMP / Private Massage game for years but am very curious about how things work on the strip club side? Anyone able to walk me through a typical encounter? Specifically how you would approach or start the conversation, how do you act, what would you say, sit at the bar / table / booths, etc. Basically what to expect? I've read the the last 2 dozen or so pages in the forum but I have obviously never done this at the clubs before. Any girls you would recommend VS who to avoid? I'm extremely interested in trying and would appreciate the heads up on what to expect or any advice you can offer! PM ok.

Vrx.[/QUOTE]OV, this is a long topic, but I will hit some of the pointers.

First start by asking yourself what do you want.

I like several warm up dance where the girl grinds suggestively on me and lets my hand roam. It makes me feel like I am with a girl friend. I know many guys who couldn't care about that and just want go back whip their dick out and get off as fast as they can.

Some girls want extra money for warm up dance and some don't. They all understand that more time in the back in necessary to provide the service I want.

I always negotiate for no song count. I have a buddy who says you are so beautiful I won't last 4 songs and asks to pay less if he can finish in 4 songs.

The girl is not a mind reader, every guy wants something different. I like watching girls play with themselves, other guys think the girl is stalling doing this.

Some guys want DFK, but I am not a big kisser.

Some guys want Bare Back, I prefer to wear a condom. In fact when I read guys complaining about the girl made them wear a condom I look for those girls.

She has negotiated for this multiple time a day for many days. This is your first time negotiating, so she has an advantage. It can be difficult to do it the first time you do it.

There is a difference between a girl who is willing and who wanting. Most girls will, but talk to her and find out what your chemistry is. If you have poor chemistry at the table it usually doesn't improve.

My personal recommendations.

Do not take the first girls who approach. They are typically the less desirable girls, and have learned they have to hustle harder to succeed. But maybe you don't care. Any reasonably attractive female will do.

I tend to see this as a treat, and I want to be with the hottest girls. (Hotness is subjective, I like small tits).

Always negotiate for no song count.

Never pay in advance, better to walk out and loose your room fee then try to make a bad session better.

If she won't meet your price point, then consider adding something like you like. For example I will pay more if I can finish on her face.

Unless you have to have a specific girl be willing to walk away. There will be another girl later that may provide what the first one won't.

If you go when it is busy the girl have more customer to choose from and they want to get in the VIP out of the VIP quickly so they can get back in. If you are there when it is slow, they are often willing to spend longer time in the VIP because they are not missing out on additional money.

If you are close on price, tell her if she satisfies you in the VIP, then you will give her a tip for a job well done.

This should be enough to get you started. Go have some adventures and you will learn quickly. Post about what works and doesn't work. Different guys use different strategies and most succeed.

MM.

[QUOTE=OnlyVrx;5232549]Hey all, I have been a regular monger in the AMP / Private Massage game for years but am very curious about how things work on the strip club side? Anyone able to walk me through a typical encounter? Specifically how you would approach or start the conversation, how do you act, what would you say, sit at the bar / table / booths, etc. Basically what to expect? I've read the the last 2 dozen or so pages in the forum but I have obviously never done this at the clubs before. Any girls you would recommend VS who to avoid? I'm extremely interested in trying and would appreciate the heads up on what to expect or any advice you can offer! PM ok.

Vrx.[/QUOTE]When negotiating a line I've always had luck with when they start high is "Well I'm sure you're worth it but I'm not looking to spend near that much sorry". They almost always come back with "well how much are you looking to spend?" and around 8 outa 10 times the number I throw out they agree to.

[QUOTE=OnlyVrx;5232549]Hey all, I have been a regular monger in the AMP / Private Massage game for years but am very curious about how things work on the strip club side? Anyone able to walk me through a typical encounter? Specifically how you would approach or start the conversation, how do you act, what would you say, sit at the bar / table / booths, etc. Basically what to expect? I've read the the last 2 dozen or so pages in the forum but I have obviously never done this at the clubs before. Any girls you would recommend VS who to avoid? I'm extremely interested in trying and would appreciate the heads up on what to expect or any advice you can offer! PM ok.

Vrx.[/QUOTE]It depends on the city, club and dancer in that order. Other cities might be different, but in Detroit, the suburbs at lease, I rarely have to ask for extras. The best dancers let me know in no uncertain terms. Having read all the comments you should already know which clubs and which dancers in the clubs. Often within three minutes of sitting down, we are in the back having fun, having already agreed on price and activities.

Where you sit really isn't an issue. Some people sit at the bar, others at the stage and others at the table. Since dancers expect you to tip if your are at stage, I like to sit at a table that allows me a good view of many dancers at the club, and will temporarily move to the stage if a hot dancer is on stage. There will be and endless number line of dancers stopping by the entire time you are there. Many will just approach you and ask "are you looking for a dance?" or "are you looking for some fun?" Unless it's a dancer who I have heard of, or I have gotten dances from her before, I typically skip dancers those dancers, and wait for a dancer who asks to sit down a bit, before she asks for dance. Now, If I had gone up to stage and asked her to stop by, then it's quite obvious I am looking for a dance and having fun.

Once she's at my your table, if she hasn't asked whether I want a dance within 3 minutes, typically she isn't worth it. If she isn't then on to the next. Once you have found a dancer you like, before you start your dance, make sure you both have agreed on price and activities, preferably with no song count. If she does ask for a time limit, make sure it's at least 10 minutes longer than what you want, since most dancers tend to cut time by at least 5 minutes.

Other suggestions:

Make sure it's a dancer you like. Never agree to a dance from a dancer who doesn't attract you.

One you first enter a club, often the best dancers are in the back getting dances. If it's a club I haven't been to before, I will wait until I have seen at least a dozen or so dancers either on stage or about the floor.

Avoid dancers who head back and are consistently done after one song. Good ones are typically back for at least three songs.

Some dancers are so popular, that she has a very large number of customers waiting by the time you have ask for a dance. Unless you are willing to wait for two hours, skip her and look for other dancers. If you really need to see her, then try another night early in the shift. Even then you might have a long wait.

Days works best for my schedule, so hopefully that helps me get my feet wet when its not to busy. I'm heading out on my own... Do most mongers here venture out to the clubs alone or with a buddy or 2? Sounds like an odd question but I've always gone out to the strip clubs with a group.

Over the years this forum has proven its weight in gold. Everyone who participates in this forum has a wealth of knowledge to share and I appreciate your feedback! Thanks fellas!

[QUOTE=TimeTwist;5233342]It depends on the city, club and dancer in that order. Other cities might be different, but in Detroit, the suburbs at lease, I rarely have to ask for extras. The best dancers let me know in no uncertain terms. Having read all the comments you should already know which clubs and which dancers in the clubs. Often within three minutes of sitting down, we are in the back having fun, having already agreed on price and activities.....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beer30;5233084]When negotiating a line I've always had luck with when they start high is "Well I'm sure you're worth it but I'm not looking to spend near that much sorry". They almost always come back with "well how much are you looking to spend?" and around 8 outa 10 times the number I throw out they agree to....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5232944]OV, this is a long topic, but I will hit some of the pointers. First start by asking yourself what do you want. I like several warm up dance where the girl grinds suggestively on me and lets my hand roam. It makes me feel like I am with a girl friend. I know many guys who couldn't care about that and just want go back whip their dick out and get off as fast as they can....MM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Verizon75;5232943]He is right some girls will bring it up. There are some that don't do extras. When she ask 'do you want some dances', reply with: I'm looking for more than dances (or). I'm looking for a girl who does extras....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GolDark;5232839]It's not hard and it'll depend on the girl. As in any strip club, some will walk up to you and sit down with you. Just talk with them normally. When the topic of a private dance comes up, feel free to be straightfoward about what you want, what you want to spend and what they offer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BiggieG75;5232932]How many girls at BT's will do BBBJ with CIM?

120 is a damn good price for that. I won't get too fussy about looks with that kind of bargain, but she's got to have decent teeth and no BO as a minimum standard.[/QUOTE]Plenty of options at BT's and even more at SC, Bog, H8 N. All for that price point. IMO that's not a "bargain", that's standard for that service at these clubs. Price goes up at FC, LS, etc.

[QUOTE=Verizon75;5232924]I agree it was a timing thing. I'll have to circle back for Violet.

I really do not understand these girls, they want our money and we want their goods. If I pay 200 for 6 songs or 10 songs, what do they care if I am able to get two off. I can make them work all day for 1 and take 10 songs. I truly believe I caught her off-guard, and she thought to herself it will be one and done and take 4-5 songs and not have to be there for 6 or the second pop. I am not here to impress the talent and last long time. If she wanted 1 pop I would talk my way into 100 for 3 songs.

My option is to go home with money that is in my pocket, that obviously I do not need. Her option is to go home 100 or 200 short.[/QUOTE]You're not wrong, but there are multiple dynamics at work here. The club is keeping track of the songs and it may affect her tip out, so she has to make a calculation there if the price and song count agreed to is profitable for the work she has to perform. Also, she is likely thinking that second pop is going to take forever, and could be difficult to achieve, leading to a scenario when that song count hits and you didn't pop yet. In my experience, mostly the girls want like a quick 3-4 songs for as much as they can get for and move on to the next dude. Which she might be stressing about, if a regular is waiting for her and she is afraid will bolt.

[QUOTE=OnlyVrx;5233712]Days works best for my schedule, so hopefully that helps me get my feet wet when its not to busy. I'm heading out on my own... Do most mongers here venture out to the clubs alone or with a buddy or 2? Sounds like an odd question but I've always gone out to the strip clubs with a group.

Over the years this forum has proven its weight in gold. Everyone who participates in this forum has a wealth of knowledge to share and I appreciate your feedback! Thanks fellas![/QUOTE]Personally, I want to keep this hobby to myself, away from friends. My first time in a strip club was age 16 with my high school chums. We were out on the east side, and we went in on a lark, thinking that we'd get kicked out. Turns out that their were seniors from our school there, too. So the second time in a bar where I was served, AND naked titties! Those were table dance days. Literally. They climbed up on the table and danced. Over the years it morphed into them carrying their own foot stool, upon which they danced.

Anyhow, back to the present; when you go solo to a club, the dancers have a good inkling that you're there for activities, not cocktails and camaraderie. Now the party girls that want to get drunk, aee more likely to gravitate to groups of guys for free drinks.

Went to Bogarts about 745 tonight. Some decent talent, but one simply outstanding dancer. Charlie was by far the hottest girl in the club. In my typical fashion, I kind of sat by the wayside, and waited for her to approach me. Negotiated upstairs at 1. 50 fir her to sing. Amazing body, amazing vocal talents, and all-around good time.

[QUOTE=OnlyVrx;5233712]Days works best for my schedule, so hopefully that helps me get my feet wet when its not to busy. I'm heading out on my own... Do most mongers here venture out to the clubs alone or with a buddy or 2? Sounds like an odd question but I've always gone out to the strip clubs with a group.

Over the years this forum has proven its weight in gold. Everyone who participates in this forum has a wealth of knowledge to share and I appreciate your feedback! Thanks fellas![/QUOTE]I typically go out alone. The few times I have been in a group, I didn't get many dances. Then again the times I have been in a group, it wasn't at my regular clubs, and the entire group was just there to hang out, watch the game if there was one on that day, and to look at tits. Most of the dancers knew this and were just there to keeps us in the club drinking and maybe get a few dances.

Only good thing about it was there is often a constant string of the hottest dancers sitting at our table. When one gets up, usually it's because one of her high spending regulars showed up, another just as hot sits down.

Since we're in the learning phase right now LOL, how much exactly does VIP cost? Not for extras. I understand you tip the bouncer. But does the VIP cost by minutes or songs? For instance down here in OH a nice club that closed Deja Vu (Hustler club chain) used to go 10 30 60 min. 30 minutes I'm sure was close to $150 regular price. If you add extras that can really adds up.

[QUOTE=SopCop;5235312]Since we're in the learning phase right now LOL, how much exactly does VIP cost? Not for extras. I understand you tip the bouncer. But does the VIP cost by minutes or songs? For instance down here in OH a nice club that closed Deja Vu (Hustler club chain) used to go 10 30 60 min. 30 minutes I'm sure was close to $150 regular price. If you add extras that can really adds up.[/QUOTE]Pretty much all of the clubs you pay once per trip for an unlimited time. However, BT's after the 10th song will require you to pay another $20 VIP tax. Last I heard VIP was closed in most of the Detroit clubs.

[QUOTE=Drew93;5235467]Pretty much all of the clubs you pay once per trip for an unlimited time. However, BT's after the 10th song will require you to pay another $20 VIP tax. Last I heard VIP was closed in most of the Detroit clubs.[/QUOTE]That's crazy in price comparison. I guess the clubs make way more off regular dances. And drinks I'm sure haha.

Hi all, follow this chick on ig and snap, we matched on tinder years ago, she was prob 18 at the time. Anyways I think she is back dancing she's worked at a few like most do, I think she's at Silver Cricket, Trumpps or another 8 mile club now. Anyone get any VIP dances with her? Any extras to be had, I don't want to waste any time going if she doesn't. Might TOFTT though, if she says she is working at another non-Detroit proper club they all suck now LOL.

She's got a great thick ass, small tits, redhair but who knows she dyes it a lot; she's a hood rat in the way she talks, which I don't care for but whatever they can be sexy too.

[QUOTE=Steen451;5232846]Over the past week I made two trips to SC and one to BT's.

My first trip to SC I arrived at 12:30 PM and stayed for one beer. There was one blonde spinner I thought was attractive but she was with other customers for the 45 minutes I was there. When she went to the back I decided I didn't like my chances given the number of girls and customers so decided to leave and head to BT's. Total cost was $8.

I arrived at BT's on the same day and settled in at the bar. Sammie, Athena, Violet and a cute black girl that I forgot her name all approached me separately and I chatted with each of them for a few minutes. Sammie's body is a little too pear shaped. Athena has a great body but her ghetto tone of voice really turned me off. The black girl was cute but she was slightly too thick for what I was looking for. Violet I was interested in but she got called to the stage and for some reason I lost interest and decided to call it a day. After reading some of the recent reviews I regret passing on Violet so maybe I'll go back soon to sample. Cost was $18 for one beer and valet.

A few days later I venture back out and start again at SC around noon. This time Blue comes over and she's exactly my type. Blue is 20's, mixed, dark hair, A / B cup, minimal tattoos, belly ring, fit body and nice ass. We discuss VIP and she quotes 150 for BBBJ and 250 cfs. I counter with 150 for cfs, she accepts and off we go. She starts with some great LFK and a warm up dance before moving to BBBJ. The BBBJ isn't the best, it's a little toothy, but it's a BBBJ so it's not terrible either. We go on like this for about a song or so and then on with the cover. We start with k-9 and I don't make it longer than a song before we're done. Overall a great time and I will repeat with Blue. Cost was $150 + $10 VIP fee + $8 beer for a total $168.[/QUOTE]Blue is hot!, good find.

[QUOTE=Passenger;5234407]My first time in a strip club was age 16 with my high school chums. We were out on the east side, and we went in on a lark, thinking that we'd get kicked out. Turns out that their were seniors from our school there, too. So the second time in a bar where I was served, AND naked titties![/QUOTE]I don't know how some of you guys got lucky enough to have high school experiences that were straight out of a sex comedy like Porky's or Hardbodies.

My raunchiest high school experience with buddies in the late 80's was finding a local video store that would rent XXX movies to us for a small bribe. Pretty cool for horny 17 year old boys watching hardcore porn in those days since there was no internet and stealing Penthouse magazines from our Dads was lame. Although it does get awkward when all of us have raging boners watching the action on the TV and then not being able to whip out our weeners and rub one out. Luckily, we knew how to copy tapes in those days so that we could enjoy them in our alone time when a jackoff session was required to clean the pipes. We even had a secret club at school my senior year where guys would trade dirty movies. Damn, I miss the simple pleasures of the 80's.

[QUOTE=HarryDude;5235838]Hi all, follow this chick on ig and snap, we matched on tinder years ago, she was prob 18 at the time. Anyways I think she is back dancing she's worked at a few like most do, I think she's at Silver Cricket, Trumpps or another 8 mile club now. Anyone get any VIP dances with her? Any extras to be had, I don't want to waste any time going if she doesn't. Might TOFTT though, if she says she is working at another non-Detroit proper club they all suck now LOL.

She's got a great thick ass, small tits, redhair but who knows she dyes it a lot; she's a hood rat in the way she talks, which I don't care for but whatever they can be sexy too.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I recall getting a dance from her a few years ago at the Criket. Were there extras? Yes, but all covered if I recall.

This was two years out of HS, at an off campus apartment.

I was invited to a bachelor party for an upper classman. It was just a kegger, but one room was dedicated to screening porn movies.

I remember two things. A priest apparently had been invited. Awkward as hell when he strolled in holding a beer.

A future Governor of the Great State of Michigan was also there. His initials were J. E. ; He grew up with the groom.

[QUOTE=BiggieG75;5236062]I don't know how some of you guys got lucky enough to have high school experiences that were straight out of a sex comedy like Porky's or Hardbodies.

My raunchiest high school experience with buddies in the late 80's was finding a local video store that would rent XXX movies to us for a small bribe. Pretty cool for horny 17 year old boys watching hardcore porn in those days since there was no internet and stealing Penthouse magazines from our Dads was lame. Although it does get awkward when all of us have raging boners watching the action on the TV and then not being able to whip out our weeners and rub one out. Luckily, we knew how to copy tapes in those days so that we could enjoy them in our alone time when a jackoff session was required to clean the pipes. We even had a secret club at school my senior year where guys would trade dirty movies. Damn, I miss the simple pleasures of the 80's.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TimeTwist;5236946]Yeah, I recall getting a dance from her a few years ago at the Criket. Were there extras? Yes, but all covered if I recall.[/QUOTE]I believe that I met her via SA about 18 months ago last time. She told me that she worked at the Cricket. Definitely into extras. If you can provide her Instagram I'd I shall verify it was her. I have her number- but I will have to dig for it.

This was maybe 1985-1987. Not sure how it started, but me and some buddies who were all 16 at the time would go down to the centerfold. We would pay the door man (fat Jimmy) like $10 each and he would let us in to watch dancers and get dances as long as we bought sodas. There was even a time or two we were allowed beers. Pretty funny to think of it now. A 16 year old getting lap dances, no extras unfortunately. It was like Porky’s but we didn’t get robbed or get our asses kicked. This happened maybe 7 or 8 times over a couple year period. I was in there maybe 7-8 years ago and Fat Jimmy was still there! He had his stomach stapled so he's not fat anymore. We reminisced about the old times. Cool dude.

[QUOTE=BiggieG75;5236062]I don't know how some of you guys got lucky enough to have high school experiences that were straight out of a sex comedy like Porky's or Hardbodies.

My raunchiest high school experience with buddies in the late 80's was finding a local video store that would rent XXX movies to us for a small bribe. Pretty cool for horny 17 year old boys watching hardcore porn in those days since there was no internet and stealing Penthouse magazines from our Dads was lame. Although it does get awkward when all of us have raging boners watching the action on the TV and then not being able to whip out our weeners and rub one out. Luckily, we knew how to copy tapes in those days so that we could enjoy them in our alone time when a jackoff session was required to clean the pipes. We even had a secret club at school my senior year where guys would trade dirty movies. Damn, I miss the simple pleasures of the 80's.[/QUOTE]

Did my taxes yesterday. Turns out I spent $80 k last year on baby support. I mean idk how it happened honestly between the clubs (probably like 4/5 visits), OTC girls from clubs, massage places and escorts on Eros. My accounts think I need a therapist or a priest. I say I need a baby broker.

[QUOTE=ALotNohsin;5237223]Did my taxes yesterday. Turns out I spent $80 k last year on baby support. I mean idk how it happened honestly between the clubs (probably like 4/5 visits), OTC girls from clubs, massage places and escorts on Eros. My accounts think I need a therapist or a priest. I say I need a baby broker.[/QUOTE]You're my hero. I need to make more money to support my hobby needs.

How many girls have let you finish on their face? Any recently? It's a good idea for a compromise.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5232944]OV, this is a long topic, but I will hit some of the pointers.

First start by asking yourself what do you want.

I like several warm up dance where the girl grinds suggestively on me and lets my hand roam. It makes me feel like I am with a girl friend. I know many guys who couldn't care about that and just want go back whip their dick out and get off as fast as they can.

Some girls want extra money for warm up dance and some don't. They all understand that more time in the back in necessary to provide the service I want.

I always negotiate for no song count. I have a buddy who says you are so beautiful I won't last 4 songs and asks to pay less if he can finish in 4 songs.

The girl is not a mind reader, every guy wants something different. I like watching girls play with themselves, other guys think the girl is stalling doing this.

Some guys want DFK, but I am not a big kisser.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Soupy3838;5223868]Anyone know if she is dancing anywhere? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I stopped by SC on the afternoon of the 1st. I didn't see Rachel. However, I should have asked the doorman if she was still dancing at SC. Next time I will and report back. BTW, SC was kind of dead although to be fair it was a Monday afternoon. When I walked in I saw one tall thin white girl with no boobs on stage and an overweight black girl sitting at the bar. It looked like there were a couple more dancers sitting with regulars in the booths. I walked out after 5 minutes without ordering a drink.

I stopped by Coliseum on the afternoon of the 1st around rush hour time. There were zero dancers anywhere either on stage or off. I stayed long enough to enjoy my drink and make mental notes. I won't be returning to this club. Even BT's Detroit had more cars in the parking lot and Players looked pretty busy judging by how full the parking lot was.

[QUOTE=BobKraft;5238860]How many girls have let you finish on their face? Any recently? It's a good idea for a compromise.[/QUOTE]BK,

I haven't been to the clubs since October. I don't live in Detroit, so I only go when I am working there.

In 2020 there were quite a few. I would guess on average about 50% are willing to negotiate for allowing it. How good of a negotiator are you?

MM.

[QUOTE=ALotNohsin;5237223]Did my taxes yesterday. Turns out I spent $80 k last year on baby support. I mean idk how it happened honestly between the clubs (probably like 4/5 visits), OTC girls from clubs, massage places and escorts on Eros. My accounts think I need a therapist or a priest. I say I need a baby broker.[/QUOTE]If you're able, you should really check out Germany. Between the brothels and the FKK clubs you'll be hooked.